Reddit has just classified radical feminism as hate speech. I fully agree, but I also have to say: this is getting wild.

lasciate · 2020-06-30T19:41:54+00:00

I agree with the underlying sentiment that Radical Feminism is hate. I don't agree with silencing people who express hateful opinions, as long as they are not directly trying to incite violence/other forms of crime. A cynical part of me thinks that Reddit is only banning a lot of Radical-Left Wing subs in order to appease us. Thus, they can get away with implementing limitations on free speech in general, which I think is the real issue.

We should not try to silence Radical Feminists and Misandrists. Doing that would be to stoop to their level. We should instead strive to defeat their arguments in the arena of debate.

antifeminist3 · 2020-06-30T23:23:38+00:00

The reason it is hate speech, is because they are TERFs, and think trans-women are not women. That is the only reason. so the man-hating is perfectly fine. Reddit's new policies state that a 'majority group' is not protected under their hate speech rules.

HovisTMM · 2020-06-30T21:56:36+00:00

Isnt that note from the mods? Feels like a tongue in cheek way of calling out the censorship.

Tank-o-grad · 2020-06-30T20:22:01+00:00

Is that a message from reddit or is that a description of the sub written by the sub's mods?

aofk · 2020-07-01T00:10:24+00:00

I hope FDS goes next. A lot of KillAllMen types in there and no respect for men. Most of them literally view men as a meal/shelter plan for life.

HeroWither123546 · 2020-07-01T01:05:31+00:00

I'm HONESTLY surprised r/MensRights survived, but r/RightwingLGBT didn't

SamaelET · 2020-06-30T19:43:22+00:00

I am against any for mof censorship. But I cannot help but smile to see them get a taste of their own medicine. Labelling everything hate speech finaly backfired to them.

TXJohn83 · 2020-06-30T23:53:44+00:00

Censorship is wrong, but it is what the world is moving towards more and more.

7_legged_spider · 2020-07-01T00:42:36+00:00

So, it's set to private, but not banned, like all of the others affected by the purge? SMH

rahsoft · 2020-06-30T20:36:04+00:00

what this the sub reddit that was TERFS?

Which might explain why they got banned?

if so then I have no sympathy as they would be treated by the same rules they applied to everyone else.

... However, I think banning is not the best idea( unless it could be proven that they broke a very specific law)

Quarantining would be a better process ?

or sign in with warning of very strong content.

when you ban things , you drive it underground and that makes it more ..dangerous(?)

I would rather have counterarguments as suggested here, even if they got ignored.

I'm actually more concerned about the abuse of the tool that does not allow posting in one sub reddit if you are a member of another..

I should be surprised that reddit couldn't have anticipated that the possibility of doing being able to do that because its counterintuitive to its original purpose. But then again a lot of recent behaviour by Reddit( and some of their users, like hijacking reddits for political purposes) gives me the impression "we don't give a damm".

Its election year in the US, and we are going to see a lot more shenanigans on social media by people who don't seem to be able to understand the whole process/purpose of an election

Ledpoizn445 · 2020-07-01T02:26:17+00:00

Rad-fems were probably banned because they notoriously hate trans people, specifically trans-women

acmemetalworks · 2020-07-01T02:11:06+00:00

The left will eat itself.

I've been saying this for years.

We've been living through a moral panic for the last 4 years.

Now comes the purity spiral.

omegaphallic · 2020-07-01T00:17:33+00:00

Many of these TERFs are also SWERFs, so they attack the civil liberties of sex workers and clients as a matter of course, so while morally I'm outraged at the attack on their civil liberties, emotionally I'm laughing at the karmic smack down. But also leery, because is a very unexpected state of affairs and I don't know what happens next.

MazeZZZ · 2020-06-30T22:47:33+00:00

Honestly I preferred Reddit back in the day when you could say anything you wanted no matter how bad it was. This sub getting banned is not a good sign, it just shows Reddit is getting more balsey with who its banning, it hadn't really banned leftist subs before, who knows what they'll go for next.

The_Entertainer217 · 2020-07-01T02:44:10+00:00

I’m not a big fan of classifying things as “hate speech” tbh, it reminds me a bit too much of thought crime and newspeak from 1984 and it creeps me out.

Mikejones2756 · 2020-07-01T02:40:54+00:00

I agree with you in principle, but I'm glad this is happening. The demonization of men has been accepted and promoted long enough. Feminism and its hate permeate through the media as well as the educational system. Enough is enough.

Minnesotan-Gaming · 2020-07-01T02:34:43+00:00

Next should be r/femaledatingstrategy because that place is just female incel cove. I believe they were trying to get buzzfeed to say that reddit is pandered to men or something

2020-06-30T21:59:01+00:00

YES, r/radical_feminists still exists tho

I love that they did this but at the same time ppl should be allowed to express any opinion as ling as it isnt trying to directly cause physical harm/violence towards a group or individual

LetsTalkFV · 2020-07-01T02:25:46+00:00

This makes no sense at all.

Has anyone seen any proof that this isn't just a stunt by the mods to gain some infamy? There is no way, if this was truly a pro-radical feminist sub, that reddit would put something like that on their page.

If this was an anti-rad feminist sub, as a couple ppl on here are saying, it might make more sense, but I can't see why the mods would want to draw undue attention to themselves.

I don't get it.

Egalitarianwhistle · 2020-07-01T03:18:13+00:00

It's just a matter of time before the woke police shut down this sub as well. It doesn't matter how well behaved we are.

Witch hunters will always find a new witch. The question is not if but when.

2020-07-01T03:35:45+00:00

The fact that any platform would encourage a nation to prosecute people for speech is appalling. Hate speech is free speech no matter how sensitive people get.

2020-07-01T11:11:58+00:00

So happy to find fhat GendeeCrital was banned and removed. That site brought me and my girlfriend alot of upset and depression. Im so happy hateful feminism is being brought down.

CzechoslovakianJesus · 2020-07-01T01:27:03+00:00

They're afraid of getting their legal cheeks clapped and are throwing a bone so they can claim to be impartial.

kronox · 2020-07-01T01:57:06+00:00

Were next.

z3bru · 2020-07-01T04:21:04+00:00

GenderCritical is gone aswell.
I really am not a fan of the changes, yeah a few of the subs deserved this, but overall I think this is the worse outcome. Now the people from those banned subs will just reinforce their mindset that people are out to get them for their ideas, instead of disproving them.

ssaa6oo · 2020-07-01T08:10:27+00:00

It's because of trannies.

tothecatmobile · 2020-07-01T12:18:31+00:00

This has nothing to do with the reddit admins.

Thats an anti-feminist subreddit, and they set themselves to private and put that blurb up themselves.

2020-07-14T22:07:23+00:00

You misunderstand radical feminism. It’s for some reason instinctually associated with man-hate. It’s not, or shouldn’t be, in its intended form.

Godudop · 2020-06-30T20:26:34+00:00

I wish FDS would be banned. Even though I am for Free speech

thatusenameistaken · 2020-07-01T02:18:44+00:00

You realize that by banning a sub or two they agree with, it gives them an excuse and cover to ban all the subs they don't agree with?

They can always point and say "look, we banned all the extremists. Not just mensrights, we banned a feminist sub too."

furay10 · 2020-07-01T12:11:09+00:00

So, how much longer until /r/TwoXChromosomes can finally be banned? Just one giant circle jerk of "Z man did X action to me for absolutely no reason and I did absolutely nothing to instigate or retaliate. Equality. Now I can't Y because of it. Please send hate karma"

Wolf0133 · 2020-06-30T23:27:43+00:00

Censorship is happening anyway, wether we like it or not... they might as well censor evil subs like that then haha

-WolfChop- · 2020-07-01T00:43:31+00:00

Thank god, now I gotta go spam the group.

AutoModerator · 2020-07-01T01:20:40+00:00

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animal1988 · 2020-07-01T04:07:55+00:00

I'm just glad a bunch of the NSFW subs made it. You know which ones I'm talking about :)

ElecricXplorer · 2020-07-01T07:55:38+00:00

They probably count is as a form of hate not because it hates men but because often radical feminists are also TERFs.

Colon-Blo · 2020-07-01T08:12:51+00:00

Good. Damn feminist Ninja Turtles.

insane_playzYT · 2020-07-01T12:00:06+00:00

I don't think this was reddit. Reddit would just quarantine and add a message asking you if you wanted to view it (like T_D and MGTOW)

It is probably the moderators "protesting"

mryugideck · 2020-07-01T14:33:33+00:00

This post confuses me a lot.

Whats the difference between r/radical_feminism which apparently got banned and r/Radical_Feminists/ and r/RadicalFeminism which both are not banned?

z770i1 · 2020-07-01T21:24:42+00:00

That's hilarious. Sucks though

2020-07-02T03:07:52+00:00

when does female dating strategy get deleted

tykusstarcraft · 2020-07-01T01:11:34+00:00

its because lots of those subs are TERF subs and holy shit do they hate trans ppl .

SharedRegime · 2020-07-01T01:41:29+00:00

Hey, they got called what they are. Hateful. Step in the right direction.

2020-07-01T04:57:38+00:00

Hey at least they are doing it on both sides of the spectrum.

Sintar07 · 2020-07-01T05:57:57+00:00

Well... At least they're pretending to be slightly consistent, I guess.

Darth-trax · 2020-06-30T23:36:23+00:00

Finally, something we can all get behind. Reddit I usually don't agree with a lot you might do, but good job!

ApprehensiveMail8 · 2020-07-01T00:14:29+00:00

Censorship on Reddit isn't technically a violation of free speech- you have the right to say or write whatever you want, you don't have the right to free hosting on the platform.

That being said, given the way this site is organized, banning content for being controversial just seems silly and counterproductive. If I go to r/radicalfeminism I know what I expect to see there. That's why I generally don't go there.

If you are going to ban, go with one of the following reasons;

Content that is irrelevant to the community.

Post it where it belongs.

2) A community with misleading advertising:

If the sub is called radical feminism and 3/4 of the posts there are bizarre anti-semitic rants with no logical connection to feminism, I've got some problems with that. Again, post it where it belongs.

3) Communities that refuse to engage productively with people who have differences of opinion, even if it is directly relevant to the topic.

If you post an argument, expect a counter-argument. That is the point.

4) Content that is not a genuine reflection of the poster's beliefs.

I don't need to agree with you. But if you don't agree with you that's fraud.

5) Excessively low quality content with no apparent point

If you are writing, you want something. You have an agenda. If we can't tell what it is you are wasting your time and ours.

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Notice how I never said anything about inciting violence. If someone is using words to express their genuine agenda, and not blocking dissent, I don't see how that can ever incite violence. Violence occurs when people with an agenda give up on words.

Lazysweetness · 2020-06-30T23:01:14+00:00

Wow, i am so proud of Reddit right now that is for sure.

The-Wizard-of-Oz- · 2020-07-01T01:37:33+00:00

🙏👌👌👌 Congratulations reddit. Why the invite though. I thought they were quarantined.

Blutarg · 2020-07-01T02:09:59+00:00

Of course, people have just as much right to "hate speech" as to any other kind of speech.

NotSeaPartie · 2020-07-01T04:41:27+00:00

It’s because RadFems are raging transphobes. TERFs are what they’re called in the LGBT community i think, they don’t think that trans-women should be included in feminism.

fuzbik · 2020-07-01T04:48:03+00:00

Yeah but like its private company they can censor what they want. Its all about making that money after all. Also they introduced that new rule about hating minorities not being okay but hating majorities is aight. Kind of funny

el_beso_negro · 2020-07-01T06:15:42+00:00

"radical because they think that men can't menstruate and women can't produce sperm"

WeenieHutJr · 2020-07-01T04:32:51+00:00

lol yall are next

ratmon · 2020-07-01T06:03:22+00:00

This sub is worse tho

Title	Reddit has just classified radical feminism as hate speech. I fully agree, but I also have to say: this is getting wild.
Author	NotherThrowaway284
Upvotes	3072
Comments	219
Date	June 30, 2020 7:28 PM UTC (6 years ago)
Subreddit	Posted in /r/MensRights
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