CMV: Sugar dating is a perfectly viable and maybe even recommendable dating strategy for some men and women

throwaway316stunner · 2023-05-20T18:45:08+00:00

But how many men, especially younger men, have that disposable income?

Conscious_Ad_6572 · 2023-05-20T21:06:45+00:00

lol I think the technical term exclusive prostitution

Eastern-Action1384 · 2023-05-21T01:06:51+00:00

Prostitution is prostitution don't sugar coat it. Giving money or gifts to someone to have sex with you without being physically or emotionally attracted to you is prostitution. You are using him or her as an object to fulfill you desires. Which shows how low you are especially as a men. No one is attracted to you that you have to pay to get some attention. How sad.

Gr4nd45 · 2023-05-20T18:22:21+00:00

No thanks, I'd rather just hire an escort. Cheaper, no attachment ambiguity, safe.

SmolPPAcceptance · 2023-05-20T20:15:01+00:00

$1500+/monthly

Never tried this but this sounds really cheap. They can easily make more than that on onlyfans without having sex with anyone.

guccidane13 · 2023-05-21T02:21:09+00:00

You’re fooling yourself. Sugar dating isn’t dating at all. You’re paying someone for their time, interest, and sex with no goal of a relationship. It’s being loyal to your favorite prostitute/John.

svarowskylegend · 2023-05-20T18:55:55+00:00

Sugar babies are premium and personal prostitutes. A rich man should be able to easily get a gf/wife without the need to pay her to lie to him, unless he is very ugly or has something like autism or another similar disability.

96tillinfinity_ · 2023-05-20T18:11:53+00:00

Nothing wrong with this as most men wont complain. You will hear complaints from older women’s (30s-40s) side because these are beta bux leaving the market

Passport bros, sugar dating, etc etc is all a bypass in the system that mostly older women do not want. The more men that go this route, the more women can’t take advantage of them when they want to settle down

Ok_Tomorrow_3963 · 2023-05-20T23:41:15+00:00

It's not really a dating strategy because there's no end goal. The men are clients paying for a roleplay type of service and that's it. Nothing wrong with that if you want it, but hardly a dating strategy.

Ohyarlysmiles · 2023-05-21T03:49:34+00:00

It's actually shocking how many 'situations' start out because of financial power a man has over a woman, and I'm not talking about direct sugar babying.

It could be a chick who is kicked out of her parent's house/evicted/whatever, so she gets a job babysitting some guy's kid. Or finds a guy willing to put her up in his place, etc.

Seriously nuts.

midwesternMD · 2023-05-21T21:49:33+00:00

Man here. And I have dabbled in sugar dating.

I agree that it is a viable strategy for some people, but disagree on the scope of “some.”

A man needs to be okay with pissing away a considerable amount of disposable income to do this without seriously damaging his financial future. I think I set a budget of 2-3k or so. But that was after taxes, so really 4-6k/mo pretax. That’s basically 50-70k gross, which is already more than the average American’s annual gross income. Not only do you have to have these levels of disposable income, but you also need to be okay with the opportunity cost of not investing/saving it. I only did it for a few years on and off, but I wouldn’t be surprised if that cost me a cool 500k-1M in my retirement.

Knowing what I know now, would I do it again? Absolutely. All told, I feel that I had a good experience. I learned some things about myself and my boundaries, and compared to regular dating, it was remarkably time efficient.

But few people will ever have the resources to seriously consider doing what I did. And I would agree that even doing what I did was financially irresponsible. I’m okay with it though.

thetruthishere_ · 2023-05-20T18:38:26+00:00

Sugar dating is a sugar coated term for prostitute.

iassureyouimreal · 2023-05-20T22:54:14+00:00

Prostitution with extra steps

Mr_Chad_Thunderpenis · 2023-05-20T18:28:26+00:00

Depends on the guy. If he is like 45+, divorced, already had kids, and has money to spend, then yes it's a pretty good option I think, arguably the best option for some guys. Another option is obviously escorts, which are probably cheaper, hassle free and require less time investment. The big difference I think is that you can probably negotiate some things with the sugar baby. Like exclusivity and raw sex... if you pay a lot of course.

Laurely4u · 2023-05-20T18:46:54+00:00

Quite a few men are into variety, and wouldn’t want to become repeat clients to one provider while others don’t have the money for an ongoing expense. A few men aren’t able to maintain a sustained long term quasi arrangement type relationship anymore than they would have the necessary skills to maintain an actual relationship. The idea of the lady working outcall on long trips sounds like a tiring triathlon of being constantly in character LARPing as the happy hooker for two days straight, trapped in a hotel room with some tiresome scrote who thinks he can do whatever he wants now that the woman is paid for. It most likely would not be as safe lucrative or time effective for the woman, not when compared to the money she could be making if she was working for one carefully clocked hour in the downtown hotel district. The men who hire women to come to their rooms in the Las Vegas hotel district frequently buy restaurant meals or order room service meals for the women there as well. The meals he might buy and most of the gifts probably don’t have any resale value, unless she can get part of the money back at the pawn shop. It’s not really useful to the woman be paid for her services in crab legs and a side salad because she cannot pay her bills with that. At some point the man is probably going to start thinking because of the non professional tone of the dinner dating he can BS his way to deeper and deeper discounts. “If she’s having big orgasms or other vacation fun too then why should I pay?” He might begin to ask himself? As time wears on he can begin to hassle more and more about the full extent of what a $300 basic service includes or doesn’t include, as far as what’s on the menu of sexual services. He might also begin to think that at some point he won’t be required to use a latex condom after they get to know each other. Three hundred dollars doesn’t really mean three hundred dollars, basic vanilla sex doesn’t mean basic vanilla sex, and one hour doesn’t mean one hour anymore only because he bought the woman a Groupon brunch of ham steaks and eggs at some mid priced roadway restaurant. Most men will likely discontinue the three hundred dollars arrangement when the novelty of shiny new pussy wears off. Quite a few don’t have the money for this ongoing hobby every weekend. It’s hard to work this type of long term thing out, monetarily with a woman who otherwise wouldn’t have any interest to date you because it’s self esteem lowering for the man and for the woman. Most prostitutes have a dream life where they fantasize about quitting the business. They’re not happy about the situation. They tell themselves that they aren’t going to be doing this forever. A prostitute might imagine she can quit whoring as soon as she graduates nursing school, because then she can get a job in her field. Another might think that after her final car payment is made to ford motor credit…. after her section eight voucher is approved… after her sister finishes school and moves back home then she will only have a reduced half share of the rent. She has to work as a prostitute to pay rent in the short run but she knows her parents are getting older so maybe she will inherit a house. By next year she will have built up her client base at the hairstyling salon and her economic circumstances will change and she won’t need this sideline anymore, no she will not be whoring any more when that happens, definitely not by that time. One day, after she get her student loans fully paid, after her disability hearing date next October, after this or that, it’s not her end game to live as a whore. It’s likely that she will get out of the biz after her son’s high school graduation because on that day, he will start working a full time job and he will help out. Most only dream she can finally meet a man to marry and he will take care of her. The fantasies vary as to whatever needs to happen in her life to take her out of the business or exactly or what is the expected timeline but they all have an expectation that they will exit the business. With out exception every hooker imagines that one fine day she will quit whoring on some dreamt of and glorious distant day when her ship finally comes in. Whatever long term barter swap deal you may think you have negotiated for pussy, the woman is actively dreaming of the day she will be fully retired 100% On that amazing day there will be no more loathsome scrote with chronic blueballs, no more hassles over latex condoms or freak show sex at the roadway motor lodge. Women get into this business for money. Nobody ever wanted to hump a hateful scrote in a low end hotel because of a ham steaks dinner or a stupid gift with low resale value.

FakeNewsFredo · 2023-05-20T23:26:57+00:00

I think if you're a man with disposable income($1500+/monthly)

I would think that you would need a lot more cash than that. Am I wrong?

KikiYuyu · 2023-05-21T00:52:15+00:00

Many scummy or sleazy things are viable. That's obvious, or else why would anybody do them?

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DerayRevan · 2023-05-20T18:10:11+00:00

I think it's great

SniXSniPe · 2023-05-20T20:55:17+00:00

It's viable in the sense that:

As the sugar daddy/momma (although rare), you can date someone far more attractive than you. Not just that, but they can play the role of listener/lover/and provide company to things that maybe you don't have anyone to go with, or trips you want someone to join you with.
As the sugar baby, you can live beyond your means, as well as being spoiled/pampered. Resources that can help you in your life, or enhance it.

It's not viable in the sense that:

I think many men/women would not want to settle down/marry a former person involved with sugaring... or maybe that's just my personal bias speaking. It's prostitution at the end of the day, no matter how someone tries to decipher it otherwise.

It just depends on what you want. However, there are exceptions to both points. Some people would marry a sugar baby/former one (actually, some even marry their sugar baby...). Some sugar babies find a daddy/momma that just want to be financially dominated, or are lonely and want to have dinner dates and stuff to talk with. Both, extremely rare, but possible.

Ill-Menu5401 · 2023-05-21T01:12:53+00:00

Depends on how much money you got. Most men are not rich. Also it's significantly easier to get rich as a woman than a man.

Title	CMV: Sugar dating is a perfectly viable and maybe even recommendable dating strategy for some men and women
Author	LethalShade
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Comments	74
Date	May 20, 2023 6:02 PM UTC (3 years ago)
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