"Women's pain is always downplayed, misdiagnosed, and women receive less healthcare treatment than men."

TURBO_SCROTUM · 2024-01-22T03:19:14+00:00

My cancer went for years undiagnosed because doctors would not listen to me and take a biopsy. This is a medical system issue, not a male/female issue. As with most things feminists try to pigeonhole as female-specific.

Francis_Dollar_Hide · 2024-01-21T23:00:10+00:00

Absolute bullshit.

More men die of cancer every year, but women get more money spent on cancer research.

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC5836059/

ChelseaGreenNeedsBBC · 2024-01-21T23:24:48+00:00

Feminists always have to be victims.

Neat-Fish-4593 · 2024-01-22T00:50:00+00:00

I always doubted this specifically due to the fact that even as a man I still have difficulty getting proper medical treatment. I’m almost 40 now and I have had chronic pain since I was a child. Doctors brush it off every single time I have mentioned it. It’s not just one or two doctors, I have switched doctors countless times over the decades and still get told to go home and take Tylenol.

It’s not normal to be in pain every single day going as far back as I can remember to when I was a little kid. But doctors don’t give a shit about you. They want to move onto the next patient as fast as possible. It’s not misogyny, it’s our shitty healthcare system. If you suffer from chronic pain then you’re better off self medicating with cannabis or something because you’re not going to be taken seriously.

michaelingram1974 · 2024-01-21T22:54:14+00:00

I was going to post about this myself.

Like you say, no data is ever provided, just anecdote.

The whole thing just doesn't stack up.

tmpTomball · 2024-01-21T22:58:39+00:00

Likely the result of the Opiod epidemic. 10 years ago if you said "ow" at the ER they would give you most anything you'd want. They just didn't care, so long as they could document that you said "ow".

Now doctors go to prison for that stuff, so they refuse pain meds as basic medical practice. So if you have 10 million people that were told "yes" for years then one day everyone is saying "no" they are going to internalize it. For many women this turns into "f*cking misogony" but for men it turns into "f*cking doctors".

There is simple pressure for these natural internal triggers to fire, but our default triggers between women and men is different.

forking_shortballs · 2024-01-22T13:11:54+00:00

Less healthcare treatment than men? how do they come up with this shit? whats next for them? Dunkin' Donuts giving women smaller donuts than men? lmaoooo

ThermiteMillie · 2024-01-22T08:56:40+00:00

I would say that doctors often downplay and misdiagnose many people regardless of their sex. Women are just better at being loud about it and have more opportunities to complain under a spotlight

p3ngwin · 2024-01-22T02:46:01+00:00

men pay more taxes than women, take less healthcare than they pay for.
women take more out of healthcare than they pay for taxes.

That's not even considering the gendered fundraising gap for women's healthcare E.G. cancer research, pink ribbon, etc.

Unhappy_Doubt_355 · 2024-01-22T10:47:32+00:00

It is laughable that such a statement is made. What do you mean by "ALWAYS"?

Yes I would entertain the argument, that it could happen in a significant way, but this does not mean that every woman who walks in has this happening to her and that every man gets the right treatment every single time.

13e1ieve · 2024-01-22T01:17:36+00:00

Why is life expectancy so skewed then?

sumfacilispuella · 2024-01-22T03:46:42+00:00

they didnt even test treatments or anything on women at all until recently and still not in some cases because women have periods and that complicates the research. the main thing i see about "misogyny" is the insertion and removal of IUD without any pain medication when its apparently extremely painful and in other countries the idea of not doing sedation, much less giving ANY pain medicine, seems insane.

Fragmented79 · 2024-01-22T12:22:38+00:00

Women get October for breast cancer. Men tried to get “Movember” for prostate cancer awareness month, but our gynocentric culture says no.

solar-garlic1776 · 2024-01-22T14:10:05+00:00

I'm old enough to remember every Sunday in October everyone had to wear pink to support breast cancer. Although breast cancer affects both it's primarily seen as a women's issue. I'm totally fine with that. HOWEVER, prostate cancer which only effects men and is more deadly than breast cancer isn't even given the first thought. But please continue on about how you receive less health care.

FeanorOath · 2024-01-22T10:37:09+00:00

Tell that to all men who refuse to go to the doctor because the doctors usually don't care

warlocc_ · 2024-01-22T12:19:57+00:00

This one is tricky.

Look at migraine research for example. For years doctors ignored and downplayed migraines, treated them like a headache and told you to go take some Tylenol. Only recently are they being studied and taken seriously.

The thing is, women are more prone to migraines than men so this can seem like an issue of sexism. When in truth it's an issue with the medical system overall.

swizacidx · 2024-01-22T01:42:22+00:00

I have chronic heart issues and a scar from the vaccine I got at 21. I can tell you it took me ten months to get a diagnosis because no one cared, I wasn't "listened too because I'm a man" infact I often got told that because I'm a young man I'm actually fine and should go play some sport and forget about anxiety! (Which I don't have)

D1onigi · 2024-01-22T14:14:34+00:00

Look up "how to recognise heart attack in men" Then "how to recognise heart attack in women".

You'll notice the symptoms are different. We didn't know the symptoms were different until 1995.

There's many examples like this, where differences between groups of people were ignored during surveys and statistics and research focused on british males.

The issue is Similar to how the definition of rape is "being penetrated..." Excluding by definition female on anybody rape in criminal statistics.

Luckily in the last 20 years statistics and surveys are solving the past mistakes. So more lives are being saved.

coach-daddy · 2024-01-22T14:23:05+00:00

False on its face.

At least in Canada women get intensive health checks when they are pregnant.

Over the course of one pregnancy my wife received more testing and diagnosis than I have yet to have in my lifetime.

Independent_Growth38 · 2024-01-22T03:31:39+00:00

Literally the complete opposite is true.

thatgirlanya · 2024-01-22T11:30:53+00:00

I think partially it’s a bit of luck with doctors and partially how aggressive you are at advocating for yourself. I am very aggressive and won’t take shit from doctors and haven’t had many issues with them taking me seriously (I’m a woman). If I feel one is brushing me off, I find a new one. My mother on the other hand has serious issues getting doctors to take her seriously and find the root of her health issues, but she is very meek (I’m not at her appointments but I know how she acts). She has trouble going to new doctors if she has a bad experience with one so she stays with bad doctors.

My husband has had similar experiences that I have. Some bad and some good doctors. You just have to not waste your time with the shitty ones and find the good ones. And a lot of this takes time before visiting by doing lots of research about your own health and also the doctor and their reviews.

I also work in healthcare so I have doctor connections so if I ever have issues sometimes I name drop and then I get taken seriously. As for the country as a whole, I can’t speak on that but I have seen research on women’s health not being taken seriously (specifically endometriosis, PCOS, etc.) and them being basically told to just take a Tylenol when it ends up that their organs are genuinely being eaten by endo. It’s probably less prevalent with issues that men and women share like heart disease, but it’s definitely prevalent with women’s health and reproductive health (I’ve experienced this as well, anecdotal but still).

TheseMeat4233 · 2024-01-22T11:57:12+00:00

Some instances are true and a have non mysoginistic reason. If you develop a new medicament, you need to test it. In many studies most test persons are men, first because they tend to do such things more often. Secound because women could be unknowningly pregnant and the medications could be harmful on the fetus. I also heard that the menstrual circle can have an input on the testing, dont know if that is right. In the end there were medicaments tested on men that worked well in a specific dosis on an average men, bit this dosis was not good for women, which led to not working properly or more and bigger side effects.

This problem is known now and counter meassures where taken in testing.

mustangfrank · 2024-01-22T13:52:17+00:00

100 Disadvantages of being a man

Men’s deaths during a war are far greater than women’s.
Men’s deaths make up the vast majority of work related deaths.
Men naturally die younger than women.
Men are expendable, “Women and Children First”, ”Men are expected to die for country”
Men cannot opt out of war by getting pregnant in the armed forces.
Men have no choice concerning a pregnancy.
Men can't have children.
Men can be forced to be fathers.
Men can have the right to be a father denied.
Women can legally abandon children at Fire Stations, Police Stations or use Adoption, men cannot.
Women: My body, My choice, Men’s Responsibility.
A father’s emotional contribution to the family is considered less important than the mother’s.
Men’s love of their children is not considered as strong as a mother’s.
Society has no concern for the lives of divorced men.
Men are subjected to being “Baby Trapped” (Intentional Pregnancy by women, Stealthing)
Men are subject to Paternity Fraud (Deceived by a woman to support child/children by other man/men) (Why isn’t Paternity Fraud a crime with the same penalty as rape?) (Why does the victim have to pay money to the criminal? It is no different than a man walking up to a woman and saying, you owe child support, DNA testing is not required to be a legal parent. If DNA doesnt matter, then why do hospitals put so much effort into ensuring a woman takes home the right baby)
Men paying alimony disguised as child support.
Men are assumed to have an endless supply of income for child support regardless of the condition of the economy and their employment.
Men pay a disproportionate share of the tax burden.
Men consume less in tax benefits than women (Welfare, WIC, Food Stamps, Medicaid, Social Security)
Men pay taxes to support children they didn’t create (Welfare, Food Stamps, Medicaid, etc.)
Men are blamed for the poor choices that women make concerning the men women choose. (All the men I date are a-holes. Why are all men jerks?)
Men are expected to adhere to social mores hundreds of years old.
Women can choose to be an “Independent Woman” vs. “Traditional Role” whenever convenient or benefits them most at the time.
Men are expected to approach women for dates.
Men are expected to pay for the dates.
Men are forced to finance organizations that are openly hostile to them i.e. Women’s Studies, Affirmative Action, Universities and Colleges, etc.
Short men are despised or disrespected by women (Manlette, Scrimp, Midget, Runt) as easily seen in women’s dating profile ads.
Women can publicly insult short men without any social condemnation.
Sex is easily obtained for women, not for men. If this isn't enough of a slap in the face for you fellas, you're on your own. - YouTube
Men have the burden of proof for consensual sex, no such requirement for women.
Men can’t play the, “I was drunk; I didn’t know what I was doing.” game. (A drunk woman climbs into the front seat of a car and drives away and kills someone, she cannot say to the Police, “I was drunk; I didn’t know what I was doing.” The same drunk woman climbs into the back seat of the same car to have sex, later she can say to the Police, “I was drunk; I didn’t know what I was doing.” She is not responsible for her actions and the man is.
The charge of Rape is based upon a woman’s word. Man is arrested only on her word.
The crime of false rape is not punished as harshly as the crime of rape.
Man's reputation can be easily ruined with no consequences to the woman (Mattress Girl, Columbia University)
Male circumcision is not seen as genital mutilation.
Prostate Cancer receives little to no public attention vs Breast Cancer in society.
Under-funding of research for male-specific medical disorders (prostate cancer, etc.)
Father’s rights are almost non-existent when compared to the mother’s in a divorce.
Men have the entire legal system stacked against them in legal dispute or crime with a woman.
Men receive longer sentences for the same crime. (Lori Laughlin 2 months, her husband Mossimo Giannulli 5 months) Evil Mairead Philpott who killed her 6 kids freed after serving 8½ years (the-sun.com)
Affirmative Action, (Politically Correct Discrimination against White Males, based upon Sex and Race.) Most women lack the integrity or honesty to admit this, especially feminist women.
Men’s Rights Activist meetings and forums at Universities are routinely disrupted by Feminists
There are fewer men in college than women (2,200,000 more women than men in 2019)
Most Men (18-24) are invisible to females, (The 80/20 rule)
Violence Double Standard (Woman hits a man. You can’t take a punch?) (Man hits a woman, he goes to jail)
Men are perceived as sexual predators, naturally violent or having criminal intent.
Men are not valued, just for being.
Men don’t get special treatment as “Men’s Night” vs women’s “Ladies Night” for drink specials, admission, etc.
Men’s social injustices are dismissed out right or laughed off by SJW’s, MSM, women in general and especially feminist women. (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3WMuzhQXJoY&feature=emb\_rel\_end

Crystal_Bearer · 2024-01-22T14:35:55+00:00

When I go to any doctor, I always have to bring my wife with me so they will listen or take me seriously at all. Really, she just needs to say "yeah," and nod occasionally, but it tends to help a lot.

HotwheelsJackOfficia · 2024-01-23T00:04:47+00:00

I haven't looked for any sources, but don't men usually go to the doctor only when it's really bad? Of course we'll get treated more accurately when we're in there for something obvious and severe.

coax_k · 2024-01-22T05:19:33+00:00

My wife VS me doctor visit ratio is about 35:1

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volleyballbeach · 2024-01-22T03:39:51+00:00

A woman who gets a heart attack is more likely to die of it than a man is. So there is a grain of truth to the claim but I’ve never seen proof that this is because of misogyny. There are many other plausible explanations. Women “have a worse prognosis during their hospital stay compared to men, and that this may be due to their older age, increased numbers of other conditions, and less use of stents (percutaneous coronary intervention; PCI) to open blocked arteries.” source)

More men get heart attacks.source

Yes, both medical misandry and medical misogyny exist and we should oppose both.

Purple_Unicorn_2349 · 2024-01-22T07:08:45+00:00

More tests are done on males and male animals, so females haven't gotten the same treatment; Doctors say women are more complex.

KPplumbingBob · 2024-01-22T15:48:13+00:00

This "issue" is one of the best examples of how many female problems are driven by feelings. Just look at about anybody arguing over this. It's always anectodes and feelings. They go to a doctor and are ignored and immediately assume it's because they are a woman. Makes sense, because everybody hates women, right? There's an actual woman on here shocked that doctors gave more immediate attention to her bf's broken arm than her "health related pain". They also think doctors ignore women, black people, minorites... Because doctors just love white men. How many doctors and nurses are women again?

Mindless-Spare-2454 · 2024-01-22T16:42:10+00:00

There is some credibility to this, so a lot of medical diagnostic tools and procedures are based on treating men. The same is also said for ethnic groups, especially in western countries. A lot of it is based on white men, so when a black women comes in with side pain a lot of doctors play it off as wind or something else, whereas in most cases it’s a heart attack.

However saying it’s “medical misogyny” is ridiculous because doctors don’t hate women or are prejudice to women. They are also victims of a system that is faulty.

OpossumNo1 · 2024-01-22T17:32:20+00:00

I know it's all anecdotal, but my great grandfather went to the doctor for stomach pain back in the 90s and told it was just because he was old. Turns out he had liver cancer, which ended up killing him.

My mom had dealt with chronic pain for 20 something years. Sometimes it seems like she has a new GP every year, as she often seems to decide they aren't good enough. Hers docs are typically ladies. I have no doubt her pain is real, but she has also seemed to turn her back on treatments that were working.

I usually go to male doctors, since that's what I'm most comfortable with, but one time I went to one that she was seeing. In our first appointment when I was discussing my medical history I mentioned that I have had cysts on my testes, which is relatively common in young men. She literally told me that wasn't real. I was honestly gobsmacked. Went back to a male doc and he knew exactly what I was talking about, just like how all the other (mostly guy) docs and ultrasound techs (mostly women) I had seen also knew about it.

In short, I'm sure there is some gender based ignorance among doctors.

bluehorserunning · 2024-01-22T20:45:50+00:00

There actually is data out there - especially wrt. Men and women of color, and especially black men and women- where there’s this kind of unconscious bias that they can ‘handle pain’ better. They’re less likely to be prescribed adequate pain control in the hospital, and less likely to have concerns taken seriously.

In general, anyone who can bring a family member with them to an ED or hospital visit is going to receive better care, partly because of the unconscious psychological impact of having someone around who is not ‘the patient,’ and therefore submissive to the workers, and partly because someone saying, “him/her even mentioning that something hurts at all means that he’s/she’s in extreme pain,’ or ‘he/she is never like this.’

Part of the problem, too, is that until recently most of the data was collected exclusively on men, and women are not just small men. Women’s bodies display heart attacks differently, and ‘abdominal pain with or without bleeding’ in a woman has a lot more complexity than ‘abdominal pain, with or without bleeding’ in a man. It can be anything from ‘a normal period’ to endometriosis to late stage ovarian cancer, in addition to all of the things it could be in a man.

B1uefalc0n · 2024-01-22T08:47:40+00:00

How is womens pain being downplayed? Men get lauged at by everyone when they get hurt and are told not to be a baby or to be a man about it and that by medical professionals. The worse the injury, the more funny it is.

NoDanaOnlyZuuI · 2024-01-22T02:15:43+00:00

a 2018 study found that doctors often view men with chronic pain as “brave” or “stoic,” but view women with chronic pain as “emotional” or “hysterical.”

The study also found that doctors were more likely to treat women’s pain as a product of a mental health condition, rather than a physical condition.

A 2018 survey of physicians and dentists arrived at similar conclusions: Many of these healthcare professionals believed that women exaggerate their pain. This was true even though 40% of the participants were women.

Didn’t search that hard, did you?

Due-Apple5859 · 2024-01-23T03:19:22+00:00

There’s no changing history and it’s not men’s fault or blame for the way things are. I’m a woman and I have had beneficial medical support but also really negative experiences based on the lack of resources applied to women’s bodies. A good place to start is to ask the women you know how it impacts them. If information is your agenda, then your understanding will come in asking and listening. But don’t feel like it’s ever about you, it’s not, it’s a structure and a system. That needs to change, so it’s more equally beneficial for all. But by gaining more perspective shouldn’t take from you x

rm-rd · 2024-01-22T08:55:16+00:00

Women have a lower pain tolerance (on average) and are more likely to go to the doctor for a non-issue.

I am not a doctor, but it works something like this:

If a woman presents in ER saying they have a mild pain in their tummy, they're probably just wasting a doctor's valuable time. Sure, there can be some screening, but it's probably just hypochondria.

If a man presents in ER and says they have a mild tummy pain, the doctor is going to think maybe it's actually severe pain, and that the guy only showed up because it somehow seemed unusual (which is a sign that something severe might be wrong).

Yes, you could treat everyone equal. You could do expensive, invasive (and maybe even slightly dangerous) screening tests for everyone who says they're in pain, or doctors can use all the information they have (including gender) to make a judgement call.

sugarsnickerdoodle · 2024-01-22T02:40:26+00:00

All medicine is geared toward being made for men and men's body types like it's the norm. The only medicines specifically made for women are for their procreating bits. Women over 40 are ignored by medical professionals, and their pain is downplayed like our pain intolerance is low. Younger women suffer too, but it gets worse as you get older. Heart diseases and strokes are the silent killer of women only because the doctor will ignore women explaining pain to them. It causes the most amount of preventable deaths. If only doctors listened. I don't know the stats on men because I'm not one. Doctors like to focus on getting workers able to work for their yearly bonuses and not on making people well, unless you have money.

Sad_Letterhead_6673 · 2024-01-22T04:47:07+00:00

I worked in Healthcare, yes there is bias against women, poc, the disabled, mental health issues, addiction struggles, homelessness, etc. There is a lot of bias

DParadisio43137 · 2024-01-22T00:35:08+00:00

Other than my own personal experiences with this, I can't really provide you a concrete source a proof. But I've dealt with medical professionals on and off in life (I'm now 50) for various problems in 8 cities across 3 states and every single time I've had to see a doc for any health related pain, I've been told I'm wrong and instead it's related to [some other non-related thing I never asked about].

By the same token, my bf broke his arm, waited a day before he even went to the ER, was seen immediately, no questions asked, given a cast, and told to wait 2 months to make another appointment to have it checked.

I've been talked down at, been told I couldn't understand a treatment plan because I was a girl, been shame-talked to, inferred I was less than intelligent because I said I knew what was wrong with me before the doctor started (he didn't believe me, and when he was done and came to the same conclusion I'd stated at the onstart, he tried to gaslight me into thinking that he'd never disagreed to start with).

Comfortable-Wish-192 · 2024-01-22T00:13:23+00:00

Sadly, yes it’s true:

https://www.cedars-sinai.org/newsroom/time-women-die-from-heart-attacks-more-often-than-men-heres-why--and-what-doctors-are-doing-about-it/

…But after 1987, there was a reduction in death rates among men, while women began to surpass men in heart-disease deaths. By 2017, men and women experienced similar rates of death from heart disease.

Research shows that primary-care physicians and cardiologists were not recognizing heart disease in women, and now leaders in the field are working to come up with sex-specific diagnostics and treatment so that women can optimize CVD treatment.

“Historically, research and innovation in heart disease was for men and by men, and women were left by the wayside to die,” Bairey Merz told Time….”

Most of our clinical trial data is from men, medication’s are tested on men, test dummies for cars are male…

https://www.euronews.com/next/2023/05/06/a-mans-world-why-are-cars-designed-and-built-with-just-male-bodies-in-mind#:~:text=A%20number%20of%20different%20crash,a%20small%20female%20adult%20occupant.

“Crash test dummies for cars are typically based on average male bodies, which could explain why women are 73 per cent more likely to be injured in frontal road collisions. Researchers and engineers have just unveiled a prototype of what they hope will lead to safer vehicles for women.”

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC8812498/#:~:text=Several%20studies%20determined%20that%20women,limitations%20of%20lack%20of%20diversity.

“Several studies determined that women are largely under-represented in medical research. Geller et al. analyzed 86 randomized controlled trials (RCTs) across 9 journals and found female representation to be just 37%, with only 3 studies noting the limitations of lack of diversity.”

In short yes it’s true.

So yes it affects our health outcomes. It’s being Recognize and there’s work being done to change it.

Dan-Man · 2024-01-22T15:40:21+00:00

Wrong. Next.

Liphaem5 · 2024-01-22T15:12:59+00:00

I don't think it's a case of medical misogyny. For the record, I understand medical misogyny as the abundance of male doctors refusing to accept abortion and access to birth control as a human right. The people who do this are misogynistic because they don't believe a woman should have an opinion of her own, simply because "she's a woman and I am a man so I know better."

For the most part, women's pain is largely downplayed because most doctors believe women are attention seekers because this has been the rhetoric for the past 50 years. Sayings like "She's just paranoid/she's looking for sympathy/her pain can't be THAT bad. She must be faking it, etc." came from a time where women weren't allowed to study further and allow their voice to be heard. Unfortunately, this mentality has remained, even after women were allowed to study further and offer their educated opinion and research on medical matters. There is still a large handful of male doctors who don't believe women should become doctors because of old bias from their youth and potentially their family values. In this sense, the system is designed not so much for men but it doesn't favour or protect women either as much as it should because of the reasons above.

Women die more from heart attacks because a heart attack for a woman compared to a man starts and progresses with different feelings regarding what they experience while they are having one. This information is relatively new and before, it was believed that heart attacks felt the same for everyone, including among men, which isn't the case. One of the many signs of a heart attack for women include nausea first, and then the chest pain (if they experience chest pain at all). When women call emergency services and complain about nausea, the first thing the person on the line thinks is "Ah, woman problems." and their symptoms are dismissed, which is why the statistic is so high.

The problem with men and the medical community is that they are very reluctant (for the most part) to go see a doctor when they are sick. I read something about this and I thought they made a good point. The article stated that men don't go to the doctors when they need to because the majority of men, particularly in third world countries where there is little money for childcare and a lack of education for the women to join the workforce, they understand that if they don't work, their family starves. They would rather work until it kills them than have the opportunity to go to the doctor in case they have to leave work for an extended period of time.

This also happens in 1st world countries but in these countries, the stigma and expectation of a 'big strong man' plays more of a role. The assumption was that 'a big strong man' needs to be tough for his family so he has to tough it out, illness and doctor wise. This is also tied to the fear of hearing bad news and having to tell their families. They don't want to put their families under any stress so they either don't go to the doctors as often (even though they will be more likely to be heard) or they lie about their diagnosis until it's too late to hide from it. I think these articles were from the Neuroscience website under the psychology or biology section but I can't be sure. I read them a long time ago.

Rionat · 2024-01-22T20:33:55+00:00

Working in medicine, I’d say men are the ones who tend to never go to the hospital when they should because of this idea that a man “needs to tough it out”. We have a joke in the emergency department, “old middle aged men never come to the ED unless there is something actually wrong” so we tend to work up middle aged men up a lot due to this prevailing thought. Middle aged men do not go to the emergency department unless they are truly in a situation or they’re already dead

And most of the time they either have a PE, DVT, heart attack.

Kisakinomiya_Kotori · 2024-01-23T05:27:30+00:00

Lightly true, but that's because women have a tendency to fake sickness or provoke sickness for attention, also have a tendency to lie or avoid telling uncomfortable truths about themselves or denying things about themselves.

that's also why women are the vast majority of the culprits or power munchausen syndrome and the main hypochondriac are women. they must get serious and get rid of that BS, if not, they will remain with problems, but is not that big the issue and there's nothing to do to solve it

-Soggy-Potato- · 2024-01-23T17:30:21+00:00

it’s pretty widespread

Medical research has always centred around this Straight White Western Man blueprint with this only recently being pushed back on. Research historically exclusively tested men, and then has those results generalised to the rest of the population. This of course means women are underrepresented and healthcare is inappropriately applied in some cases.

Gender bias is a pretty massive topic within medicine / medical psychology and is an extensively explored field. Google scholar will have numerous resources to look at, it shouldn’t be an issue to find any

mustangfrank · 2024-01-24T13:16:32+00:00

100 Disadvantages of being a man

Men’s deaths during a war are far greater than women’s.
Men’s deaths make up the vast majority of work related deaths.
Men naturally die younger than women.
Men are expendable, “Women and Children First”, ”Men are expected to die for country”
Men cannot opt out of war by getting pregnant in the armed forces.
Men have no choice concerning a pregnancy.
Men can't have children.
Men can be forced to be fathers.
Men can have the right to be a father denied.
Women can legally abandon children at Fire Stations, Police Stations or use Adoption, men cannot.
Women: My body, My choice, Men’s Responsibility.
A father’s emotional contribution to the family is considered less important than the mother’s.
Men’s love of their children is not considered as strong as a mother’s.
Society has no concern for the lives of divorced men.
Men are subjected to being “Baby Trapped” (Intentional Pregnancy by women, Stealthing)
Men are subject to Paternity Fraud (Deceived by a woman to support child/children by other man/men) (Why isn’t Paternity Fraud a crime with the same penalty as rape?) (Why does the victim have to pay money to the criminal? It is no different than a man walking up to a woman and saying, you owe child support, DNA testing is not required to be a legal parent. If DNA doesnt matter, then why do hospitals put so much effort into ensuring a woman takes home the right baby)
Men paying alimony disguised as child support.
Men are assumed to have an endless supply of income for child support regardless of the condition of the economy and their employment.
Men pay a disproportionate share of the tax burden.
Men consume less in tax benefits than women (Welfare, WIC, Food Stamps, Medicaid, Social Security)
Men pay taxes to support children they didn’t create (Welfare, Food Stamps, Medicaid, etc.)
Men are blamed for the poor choices that women make concerning the men women choose. (All the men I date are a-holes. Why are all men jerks?)
Men are expected to adhere to social mores hundreds of years old.
Women can choose to be an “Independent Woman” vs. “Traditional Role” whenever convenient or benefits them most at the time.
Men are expected to approach women for dates.
Men are expected to pay for the dates.
Men are forced to finance organizations that are openly hostile to them i.e. Women’s Studies, Affirmative Action, Universities and Colleges, etc.
Short men are despised or disrespected by women (Manlette, Scrimp, Midget, Runt) as easily seen in women’s dating profile ads.
Women can publicly insult short men without any social condemnation.
Sex is easily obtained for women, not for men. If this isn't enough of a slap in the face for you fellas, you're on your own. - YouTube
Men have the burden of proof for consensual sex, no such requirement for women.
Men can’t play the, “I was drunk; I didn’t know what I was doing.” game. (A drunk woman climbs into the front seat of a car and drives away and kills someone, she cannot say to the Police, “I was drunk; I didn’t know what I was doing.” The same drunk woman climbs into the back seat of the same car to have sex, later she can say to the Police, “I was drunk; I didn’t know what I was doing.” She is not responsible for her actions and the man is.
The charge of Rape is based upon a woman’s word. Man is arrested only on her word.
The crime of false rape is not punished as harshly as the crime of rape.
Man's reputation can be easily ruined with no consequences to the woman (Mattress Girl, Columbia University)
Male circumcision is not seen as genital mutilation.
Prostate Cancer receives little to no public attention vs Breast Cancer in society.
Under-funding of research for male-specific medical disorders (prostate cancer, etc.)
Father’s rights are almost non-existent when compared to the mother’s in a divorce.
Men have the entire legal system stacked against them in legal dispute or crime with a woman.
Men receive longer sentences for the same crime. (Lori Laughlin 2 months, her husband Mossimo Giannulli 5 months) Evil Mairead Philpott who killed her 6 kids freed after serving 8½ years (the-sun.com)
Affirmative Action, (Politically Correct Discrimination against White Males, based upon Sex and Race.) Most women lack the integrity or honesty to admit this, especially feminist women.
Men’s Rights Activist meetings and forums at Universities are routinely disrupted by Feminists
There are fewer men in college than women (2,200,000 more women than men in 2019)
Most Men (18-24) are invisible to females, (The 80/20 rule)
Violence Double Standard (Woman hits a man. You can’t take a punch?) (Man hits a woman, he goes to jail)
Men are perceived as sexual predators, naturally violent or having criminal intent.
Men are not valued, just for being.
Men don’t get special treatment as “Men’s Night” vs women’s “Ladies Night” for drink specials, admission, etc.
Men’s social injustices are dismissed out right or laughed off by SJW’s, MSM, women in general and especially feminist women. (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3WMuzhQXJoY&feature=emb\_rel\_end

Title	"Women's pain is always downplayed, misdiagnosed, and women receive less healthcare treatment than men."
Author	No_Practice6697
Upvotes	301
Comments	245
Date	January 21, 2024 8:44 PM UTC (2 years ago)
Subreddit	Posted in /r/MensRights
Original Link	https://old.reddit.com/r/MensRights/comments/19cd9s0/womens_pain_is_always_downplayed_misdiagnosed_and/
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