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[–]Moderatorrecyclablebanthas[M] 2 points3 points4 points 5 years ago* (1 child) | Copy Link
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I'm interested in only finding FWBs, casual flings with the option of dating several girls.
James Marshall gave a really good talk on this very subject a few years back.
I've linked Part 4 of a longer talk there, When he gets into how to have "the Talk" with a girl to set expectations, explain what you want, and screen out people who don't want that thing.
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Basic breakdown of his video:
Keep it simple and to the point, no verbal diarrhea.
Don't make it into a big deal with a huge buildup.
When to do it is important. You can usually wait until after things escalate for the first time, whether that leads to sex or just kissing.
Don't try and tell her what she feels. Do say that you want to know where she's at with it.
Do you say that you are enjoying your time with her or some variation on that sentiment. (Only if you actually are.)
Do come right out and say that you simply aren't available for something serious. You can even be honest that you're wanting to date around.
He gets into more detail. Just watch the video. At least Part 4, if not the whole thing in full length.
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I'm good-looking, well-rounded personality and introverted.
It's good to know what you're about, but just realize that everyone has their own subjective tastes. Some people are going to be into you and some people are just not going to be.
I'm not shy but I don't enjoy going to bars and nightclubs on a frequent basis.
This is fine, of course. There are people everywhere. Not just at those places.
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What would be good places for me to meet girls and make this scenario a reality?
Look for single people and take it from there. You can meet people in a lot of different ways. There are social groups which meet up on a regular basis and post public events to social media.
Some examples:
Social partner dancing like people have mentioned here. Lindy Hop, West Coast swing, Argentine Tango, etc.
Social media groups on platforms like Facebook. There are a lot of them for things like couch surfing, hash house harriers, rock climbing, or any number of other interests.
When you get involved with a lot of groups like these, you are creating and cultivating a social life that exposes you to more people, which increases your chances of meeting people.
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As for making the scenario a reality, it all has to do with screening the people that you're dating.
If you just date people without laying your cards on the table in some way at some point, then people will make up their own narratives and that's when you risk drama.
Again, watch the video: James Marshall does a good job of explaining the concepts.
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[–]Agreable_Actuator84 59 points60 points61 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Depends on where you are, but yeah, check the website of local opera company. Call if you need to. Where I was there was an opera supporter circle where you give so much money Or so much time and got to attend functions to meet the cast. Associated with it was a singles offshoot that had mingles/meet and greet.
Also meet up may have some.
Also check out dance groups like tango or swing societies. Sometimes there is a imbalance of more women than men, sometimes the opposite. Get good and lots of ‘dance practice’ partners are also FWB.
[–]JonSnowsCousin 10 points11 points12 points 5 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link
Download meetup
[–][deleted] 3 points4 points5 points 5 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
Do people really hookup through meetup?
[–]JonSnowsCousin 9 points10 points11 points 5 years ago* (0 children) | Copy Link
I mean, I'm sure that's not everyone's intentions but they do have single groups doing stuff all the time. It makes it easier for people who don't have many IRL to meetup with other singles and possibly hookup.
Depends on what the "meetup" is as well. Some are romantic in nature, so it'd be easier for hook ups.
Honestly, most of my hook ups have been so random and out of the blue. So, you never know.
I'd just be transparent about it for sure.
[–]CanadianTurt1e 0 points1 point2 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
I don't know fi this is a good idea. The guy/girl ratio is probably going to be 10 dudes for every one girl. He'd have better chances cold approaching or joining a club.
[–]TheRealAlkemyst 46 points47 points48 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Singles groups work well especially with national groups where people may travel. They obviously aren't going to meet a steady regular. Also just leading in on a date with 'what ever happens, happens and as long as we are both having fun ...'
I met a lot of women in all age groups 20's - 40's that were totally cool with that kind of arrangement.
[–][deleted] 23 points24 points25 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Brilliant, thanks for sharing!
[–]HideyourkidsForreal 10 points11 points12 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Absolute life hack. But also sounds like the plot to a relationship in a movie
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Give this man an award
[–]KrystalAthena 84 points85 points86 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Some of my past fwbs were people I used to be friends with, then we just gradually talked about what ifs.
Some others, we already had great chemistry, timing was just off until both of us were single at the same time.
So maybe look to your casual friends and see which ones are you willing to risk lose through sex
[–]great_account 136 points137 points138 points 5 years ago* (7 children) | Copy Link
The thing about fwb is they have to be mutually beneficial and enjoyable. Also, they are almost always transient. So she has to find you attractive and fun. She has to be at a point in her life where she doesn't want anything serious and she has to prioritize sex. Imo, most women don't really qualify. And frankly most men aren't really good candidates.
You can maximize your chances by being in shape, fun to be around. Great places to look are online, the gym (be warned, you'll have to be in great shape), bars, and universities and on vacation (the number of women in tourist destination looking for casual sex skyrockets). Having a player reputation can add to this.
[–]Inferno456 8 points9 points10 points 5 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link
Any tips on finding something on vacation? Dating apps or just talking to as many girls as you can?
[–]great_account 18 points19 points20 points 5 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
When I travel, I stay in hostels. They have alot of young people looking to party. People in hostels are pretty much always down to explore with strangers. They have common areas where you can ask people to explore with you. 2) they have these pub crawls, usually with other hostels. Go to them. You'll meet tons of people, most of whom are traveling and a handful of locals, trying to have a good time, and you'll probably never see again. These are the absolute best way to have ONS.
I like to travel solo so I don't worry about what my friends want to do or their comfort level with strangers.
[–]matthewonthego 3 points4 points5 points 5 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
Where do you hookup in a hostel? Most of rooms are shared...
[–]great_account 0 points1 point2 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Some hostels have single rooms, alot of the people at the pub crawl aren't staying at your hostel, bang a local. Get creative.
[–]UnparliamentaryTea 5 points6 points7 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Lots of it is dating apps. The other element is being really into your city and fitting the vibe/being able to show her a good time. The guy who is going to be a fun tour guide/fwb in Miami is probably very different from that guy in New York or Chicago. If you’re trying to meet people when you’re on your own vacation, I’d suggest getting around to be social, asking people where they’re from/getting to know people, and then make sure you find out the fun local spots as well
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Great comment, I don't mind if there's a "depth" to the fling as long as it's not a relationship
[–]Dynasty3310 90 points91 points92 points 5 years ago (16 children) | Copy Link
Dancing classes, salsa classes are pretty easy to find in the city. Go to the evening classes and you’ll get a bunch of career women looking to let loose. It’s a gold mine.
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He's a wise man, don't $hit where you eat. Someone showing up to practices on a regular basis that you're having relations with can mess with your emotions which will affect your dancing. Could make practice weird too when it's supposed to be time spent letting go of your issues, etc.
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Good for him. There's a saying that dancers are good in bed lol.
I'm guessing he does salsa/bachata. I personally do shuffling, which many women do as well. I don't have the game to pull chicks like he does, but then again I'm doing it because I love the activity first and foremost. Also with salsa/bachata its a lot more intimate. Partnered dancing vs doing a set by yourself.
[–][deleted] 31 points32 points33 points 5 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link
If you go to these classes just to hook up with women though they are going to smell that a mile away
[–]Teamtoast 26 points27 points28 points 5 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
Came here to say this. Am dancer and can confirm that you’ll stick out like a sore thumb. That being said, like the advice given further up, if you go for the friends-of-dancers and drop-outs then you’ll probably do better
[–][deleted] 18 points19 points20 points 5 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
And also because it’s kind of creepy. Going there to meet women, sure. But hopefully everyone there at least has SOME interest in dancing too.
[–]Narcan9 1 point2 points3 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
maybe the "creepy" women are hoping to meet men.
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Perfect since I can't really dance
[–]Dynasty3310 59 points60 points61 points 5 years ago (5 children) | Copy Link
It’s a good skill for socializing. Most men at weddings or social gatherings won’t do more than the two step. If you can just get the basic footwork down and learn 3 turns then you have just grabbed the attention of all the women in the room. Don’t be intimidated when you see the highly skilled dancers, you’ll only ever see them at those classes and just about everywhere else YOU will be that guy. Good luck.
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This is incredible, thank you so much for sharing!
[–]PompousSchmuck 31 points32 points33 points 5 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
My god social dancing is huge. Go learn to fucking dance. Cant tell you how much it changed my life.
[–]Due_Cartoonist4290 2 points3 points4 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Came for fuck, stayed for dance 😂
[–]yistomorrow 8 points9 points10 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Plus learning a phsyical skill is incredibly valuable. Skating, skiing, martial art, etc...
Dancing is a wonderful physical skill to hone. It is very similar to sex, an intertwining of external feminine and masculine energies. Also allows you to bring more awareness to you and your partner's energetic bodies (I mean this as far as FEELING the other person, staying the fuck out of the head) .
[–]shiny100 77 points78 points79 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
I believe FWB type relationships tend to kind of happen naturally. People aren't typically actively looking for FWB. Also the friend part comes first, so if you don't already have a potential candidate then you've met an impasse. I guess you could try dating apps and just be open with what you're after.
[–]Narcan9 53 points54 points55 points 5 years ago (18 children) | Copy Link
Sometimes single moms in their 30s go for FWB. They are too busy for a full relationship but still want to have a good time once a week when they have free time.
Divorced women in general, but especially around age 40. They have their career going, own a house. They don't want you moving in and fucking everything up. They have their divorced friends, yoga, and coffee. There's limited time left for a man. Happy to bang one out once or twice a week.
Any young woman still in her party phase.
Any woman fresh out of a relationship. They're still horny but want minimal emotional investment.
[–]JulesB954 15 points16 points17 points 5 years ago (10 children) | Copy Link
There are very few women in all those categories that are looking for casual sex. If that wasn't the case, there would be a much more even gender ratio on dating apps such as Tinder and Bumble. Most women get next to nothing out of casual sex and they know it. If they have a simple itch that needs to be scratched, there are toys for that.
[–]Narcan9 2 points3 points4 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Don't know what to tell ya. I've found FWBs with regularity. Seems plenty common with the single mothers and divorced crowd. They're refreshing because they're just happy to have a good time and not trying to tie someone down. Other times its the college grad student who's boyfriend doesn't do it for her.
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[–][deleted] 10 points11 points12 points 5 years ago (6 children) | Copy Link
What men get from casual sex that women don’t: orgasms. Only 1 in 10 women report orgasming during a one night stand. You are vastly overrating what dick is worth. In casual sex to a straight woman, it’s basically worthless.
[–]Cheesieblaster 8 points9 points10 points 5 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
So true.
Ive tried the casual thing and honestly, sex for me (and I believe for most women) is only truly enjoyable if I have an emotional attachment with the other person. I cant have an orgasm if Im letting someone who doesnt care about me use me as a glory hole, to be quite frank.
Yes exactly! That’s the only way I find it enjoyable as well.
[–]Cheesieblaster 0 points1 point2 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
❤️
[–][deleted] 1 point2 points3 points 5 years ago* (2 children) | Copy Link
Men can achieve the same orgasm with their hand. That was my point
Edit: I see your point which is true but casual sex for men is a was of time imo
[–][deleted] 1 point2 points3 points 5 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
You might personally feel like it’s a waste of time but there’s a reason so many men search for casual relationships so often. For the vast majority of men, the orgasm they get with casual sex is superior to the one they can give themselves.
For the vast majority of women, the orgasm they can get by themselves is far superior than the one they don’t even get in a casual hookup.
You already see it as a waste of time for a man, but now imagine that a casual hookup got you NOWHERE physically, and also came at the potential loss of your physical safety. It’s no wonder that so few women are looking for casual sex.
[–][deleted] 0 points1 point2 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
I get it. I've been around the block myself. Fucked a lot of women. I've had situations where the girl just wasn't doing it for me physically. One time I pushed a chick off of me because I wasn't feeling it and she threw a glass of water at me lmao
But yea i understand the difference with most women
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[–]Hot_Knowledge 21 points22 points23 points 5 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link
How do you go about meeting one of these divorced women? I'm 26 and would love to experience being with a cougar/milf
[–]loofyd 1 point2 points3 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Same question lol
[–]Dingleberry_Junction 1 point2 points3 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
FetLife
[–]SH0wMeUrTiTz 0 points1 point2 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
They are all waitressing bro..
[–]Narcan9 0 points1 point2 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
They're all around you, but your probably focused on the 21 y/o. Just under 1/2 of people get divorced.
You're only at the front end, women get married around your age. You'll see. Women rush into marriage in their 20s and divorce in their 30s. They'll stick around until the kids are old enough to cook a frozen pizza, then bail on the father. They are plotting this with their other unhappily married friends.
A 35 y/o woman won't take you seriously but she might be (very) happy to use your hard 26 y/o peen. She'll be telling her girlfriends at happy hour how it's nothing serious.
[–]sessoms09 2 points3 points4 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Damn you just enlightened me brother
Pure value right there
[–][deleted] 64 points65 points66 points 5 years ago (5 children) | Copy Link
Dating apps and just say you are up for night stands and no strings attached, plenty of office women out there
[–][deleted] 24 points25 points26 points 5 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
What do you mean by office women?
[–][deleted] 66 points67 points68 points 5 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
Busy women working on their careers
[–][deleted] 26 points27 points28 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Love it, this is exactly what I'm looking for.
Which apps work best for this
And which platforms are you most likely to find these kind of "office women" more frequently and in greater numbers ?
[–]avyayy 26 points27 points28 points 5 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
Casual dating is fwb Of course if you are good in bed
[–]jwilhelm0618 29 points30 points31 points 5 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
I've had 3 FWBs over the last several years and they were all girls I've known forever but didn't have a chance to hookup with before because I was married. All of them ended because they caught feelings. Post divorce I had a tiny black heart and void of emotions. I'm better now🤗
I hope they are too...
[–]AnthdieSoos 6 points7 points8 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Approach them in public
[–]Spectralgeth 8 points9 points10 points 5 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
Basically this comes down to funnel, and you want to get as many leads in your pool as possible. Do you practice daygame, what is your social media like? etc.
I'm no pro at those things but Ive had a few of these kinds of relationships in my life, Ill be honest most of them came from online dating.
The more you put yourself in situations where youre exposed to women, hopefully women you want to have flings with... you should eventually build the practice/reps/experience whatever you want to call it to make it happen.
My social media is exclusively for business stuff. I think social circle is also a good avenue as well as daygame, as you mentioned. With a relaxed introvert vibe
[–]Kittech 5 points6 points7 points 5 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
I don't know if your city has a r4r subreddit, but my city (Atlanta) does and most of it is used for looking for hook ups. I thought it'd be a nice place to find some friends but it's mostly just horny men and cucks and couples and some chicks looking for some sex.
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No R4R subreddit for my city
[–]postertot 3 points4 points5 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Get buffed.. it will help
[–]LennyLeonardAndCarl 7 points8 points9 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Any dating app 😂
[–]MrSlippery92 7 points8 points9 points 5 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
I find that it’s rare to get a solid FWB. One person will almost always fall for the other or just get bored. Also most women (unlike men) aren’t transactional when it comes to sex & they usually want something emotional/fun attached to it. This is usually in the form of a good time or a great date. With the exception of a small few, women feel like sluts when you merely use them for sex. I find this to be even true for women who say they want something casual: they usually expect you to take them on a fun date before you sleep together. Even when women say they just want a FWB they usually just mean they want to casually date a non-needy guy because of previous shitty & suffocating relationships.
My advice: get on apps, go on a date, hook up, & ask what she’s looking for. Most women who hook up with you on the first date aren’t looking for much. If they ask what you’re looking for, just tell them you aren’t looking for something serious & want to explore. Most of the time they’ll agree or you’ll weed out the needy ones.
[–]Badboybuhari 1 point2 points3 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
You're spot on mate
[–]RealHumanBeing2021 2 points3 points4 points 5 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
All of the FWBs I’ve had really just occurred naturally. Most were met through dating apps and we kinda just both agreed that we were only looking for something casual… then things kinda just happened.
[–][deleted] 1 point2 points3 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Awesome mate
[–]swiggityswirls 1 point2 points3 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Apps in my opinion. Bumble and Tinder. If you're interesting then look for someone interesting, not dumbos. People you relate with and can actually be friends are good, get playfully sexual earlier. It's FRIENDS with benefits. So find a sexy and interesting friend.
[–]Lord_Augastus 1 point2 points3 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Go out and be more upfront and sexual. The physical aspect of flirting. You know, touch her, compliment her, sexualise conversation with topics etc. Chat, when the topic of what are you into, or what you are looking for comes up, openly say I am not looking for ny serious relationship, but I do like you and we can always see where thing head. Or be open about it and say that you like her lets go bck to your place. After sex, thats when you can discuss about friendship, or fwb ongoing relations. Usually my fwb, its like that, we have sex, do it again, and then formally agree to see each other regularly on a sexual level. Its important to be open and confident in your decision when opening up during piskup, you dont want to string women along, but being getting a fwb is more about being friends and sexual, than it is about long term life goals. So conversations should be fun, free, sexual, and connecting on a level of friendship.
[–][deleted] 1 point2 points3 points 5 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
Are you really good looking? Show us a selfie.
[–][deleted] 8 points9 points10 points 5 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
Feel weird about posting that here
haha was just messing with ya
[–]Fluffy_Risk9955 0 points1 point2 points 5 years ago (7 children) | Copy Link
Ever heard of Tinder? or any of the other online dating apps?
[–][deleted] 3 points4 points5 points 5 years ago (6 children) | Copy Link
Sure, never had a lot of luck there
[–]RealHumanBeing2021 1 point2 points3 points 5 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link
It’s all about pics. I’d seriously just pay someone $150 to get a few solid shots of you in nice clothes. Trust me, it’ll pay off tremendously.
[–][deleted] 1 point2 points3 points 5 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link
I've been on and off dating apps so many times it got embarassing
[–]RealHumanBeing2021 2 points3 points4 points 5 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
Yeah, same. But after I got some really good pics of me taken (close up of face smiling, doing something fun, doing hobby, etc.) I got lots of quality matches.
[–]loofyd 0 points1 point2 points 5 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
Hey mate, mind if I ask you for some guidance
[–]RealHumanBeing2021 2 points3 points4 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Sure. No problem. What is it?
[–]Fluffy_Risk9955 0 points1 point2 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Make a better profile. Women only go for the top 10% of men. So step up your game.
doesn't matter where you go, you just gotta communicate this to the women, I would just tell them you are not looking for anything serious and avoid the term friends with benefits that will probably make life easier for you
[+]randomcritical -7 points-6 points-5 points 5 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link
This sounds like a trainwreck waiting to happen....
[–][deleted] 15 points16 points17 points 5 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
How so?
[+]randomcritical -46 points-45 points-44 points 5 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
Im bout to head down to the shop and buy me a bag of popcorn and something to drink cause ill be at the railroad all day waiting for this traincrash to happen.
[–]ObamaWhisperer 5 points6 points7 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Lmfao what?
[–]Sultmaker_9000 -1 points0 points1 point 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
FWB's only happen after LTRs. You can give a girl the best smashing of her life, on an only sex basis probably 3 times at best before she gives up, she'll be expected to be taken out if you want to put her in a rotation with other girls.
[–]Appropriate_Ad3327 -5 points-4 points-3 points 5 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
How tall are you? Just curious
European so googled it 6 feet 0.0472 inch
[–]Appropriate_Ad3327 0 points1 point2 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Nice
[–]SgtSplacker 0 points1 point2 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
First you get them to like you, then you disqualify yourself in a way you maintain your dignity and viola?
Put it in your online dating profile that you’re looking for a FWB situation or casual dating. Easy.
[–]LakersAreTerrible25 0 points1 point2 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
FWB from contrary belief is very difficult to find. I've dated a lot of girls. But let's face it, it's more serious than just sex even if by definition it isn't a relationship. The point being try to find women you vibe with over just fucking. A good quality girl who has looks on top of that usually isn't gunna be down for FWB. I'm 21 and have experienced the game enough to realize this
[–]Mob_Rules1994 0 points1 point2 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Try Doublelist
[–]kittybrehbreh 0 points1 point2 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Just start going out with them but don’t commit to anything
[–]jones4thepeeps 0 points1 point2 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Just dare multiple women and ask occasionally
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