I think the number 1 cause of the loneliness epidemic in America is obesity or the health/fitness crisis

Professional_Chair28 · 2024-09-06T03:58:36+00:00

You’re assuming loneliness is purely caused by lack of romantic attention when in reality it’s just a lack of social connection in general. That social connection doesn’t rely on body type or attraction.

It’s a mental health epidemic, one small part of that is diet and exercise, but it’s silly to pretend that changing the vanity externally will solve any real holistic problems overall. It’s emotional and psychological, definitely not helped by our modern day technology.

rando755 · 2024-09-06T00:19:09+00:00

I am not sure if the body is the #1 problem, but I think it is much more significant than most people realize. Many thin people have not tried being an overweight person seeking romance or sex. However, also keep in mind that, beyond some level, a great fitness routine can harm your social life. If your nutritional guidelines are so strict that you can't eat in restaurants or go to bars, then that will negatively effect your opportunities for dating and a social life.

SaBahRub · 2024-09-05T20:32:20+00:00

Disagree. It’s people not wanting to socialize, particularly young people

If you don’t leave the house, you won’t fuck; simple as that

PrinceBleu · 2024-09-05T22:04:01+00:00

Nah gen z social skills jus fcking suck.

mlo9109 · 2024-09-06T14:16:44+00:00

Not the #1 cause, but it's a factor, especially for women. I was fat during my "prime" (high school/college) and was basically invisible to boys. I lost the weight and managed to keep it off in the 10 years since college. I look better now than I did then but have less of a dating pool as I'm in my 30s and everyone is married. That said, there are plenty of fat people of all genders who are happily married, so it may not matter as much as we think.

MaxDureza · 2024-09-06T14:05:09+00:00

I don't think mamy people realize they have low energy/low libido or feel "asexual" due to diet or hormonal imbalances.

doggiedoc2004 · 2024-09-06T17:18:14+00:00

Absolutely agree. When I weighed 249lbs as a 5’1f, i have very little luck with men. I was an introvert. I never ever got approached by men in a nice way. Only to be used for sex. Never relationship material with the exception of one guy and even tho he treated me well and I think I was his side chick. He never brought me around to his house or family.

Once I realized I had to do something to better myself besides just school (I was in grad school at the time), I dedicated myself to losing weight. Over two years, I shed 125 lbs, graduated and started my career where I had to learn how to be sociable, learned how to dress and be outgoing - my dating options improved drastically.

As my self estimated and looks improved, I noticed I became more and more selective. You could graph it against my weight loss. My own behavior is one of the reasons I am interested in sexual dynamics and sexual evolutionary biology

Ultimately, I ended up being super fit and found a 10/10 egalitarian awesome dude. (prob 8/10 exactly in looks but 10/10 when you look at the whole person) we are still married 17 years later.

I’m writing this now in between weight lifting sets. I’m still fit and dedicated to the man that asked me to marry him 18 years ago.

Almost everyone looks better fit and healthy. It shows dedication and desirable characteristics.

weenieandthebutt · 2024-09-05T21:34:42+00:00

It's such a trite stereotype that incels, lonely men or those who struggle with dating are these unfit and obese men.

Icarus367 · 2024-09-05T21:33:43+00:00

Fat people still pair up; they just tend to do so with other fat people. If everyone's fat, it shouldn't really be a problem. If the overweight/obesity epidemic were concentrated in one gender, then that might cause an imbalance. As long as overweight people are willing to sleep with other overweight people (and plenty seem willing to do so), then society will carry on.

Whiskeymyers75 · 2024-09-05T22:35:08+00:00

I can assure you that even when you get into shape as a man, you can still be lonely. Because now all the obese women who wouldn’t give you the time of day previously are lined up to date you. Only now you don’t want them except as short term fling of a pump & dump. Once you become fit, you really start to see just how fat and shallow most women are, not willing to date their own looks-match . Finding a single girl who is actually on your level is like finding a unicorn because most of them are not available.

DopeAFjknotreally · 2024-09-05T21:45:34+00:00

Disagree. It’s technology as a whole.

Want groceries? Instacart them. Want takeout? Door dash. Want a date? Tinder/Hinge. Want to speak to somebody? Social media.

Nobody has to create real connections or build an actual social circle anymore.

Stop_Maximum · 2024-09-05T22:12:37+00:00

Although attraction is and can be an important factor, I also think your life status may affect that too. I’ve noticed some people will work hours trying to keep themselves afloat, which hardly leaves time for dating. Some people, might not be where they want which a relationship might not even solve. I think it really depends, but relationships you’ve got to be able to nurture them with time, and if you ain’t got it, there’s no point.

IdiAminD · 2024-09-06T04:04:44+00:00

There might be some truth in it since obese people are more likely to be depressed, however i think cultural factors play bigger role. Especially moving to bigger cities - keeping up with pace of living in a big city is exhausting, lot of people do not have time, energy or cannot afford to have real realtionship with living together and long term plans. But in the long run - vast majority of people pair up, even in Japan birth rates(and marriage rates) are decent. In America healthy weight might be a boost due to standing out of overweight crowd, but in Europe young people are usually quite slim.

DeadBedroomIsASin · 2024-09-06T05:49:49+00:00

People get fat BECAUSE they give up, not the other way around. A lot of women get fat to desexualize themselves and because they have no intention of dating. A lot of men are fat because they get no women so they just eat to cope.

anewlookav · 2024-09-06T13:50:10+00:00

This is just incorrect. I am a man who has struggled all his life to attract a woman and I am fit, I hike weekly and lift. I am totally open to date fat women but they aren’t interested in me at all.

I actually prefer curvier/ plus size women over skinny women

Unusual_Implement_87 · 2024-09-06T14:23:24+00:00

Yeah before I recommend surgery the first thing I always advise guys to do is to lower their bf% and often times this is all they need to do to improve their looks. The vast majority of people that are perceived as being fat have robust jock type skull structure and thick bones which are very dimorphic and attractive.

Siukslinis_acc · 2024-09-06T17:02:24+00:00

Once upon a time (1950s), I think that there was a smaller divide in attractiveness. Accordingly, the most attractive people may have paired up first, but the people left behind could still find someone they were attracted to who was also attracted to them.

Once upon a time people actually got out and interacted with other people in their vicinity and created bonds with other people. Nowadays, we don't need to get out of the house or interact with other people to get things done and things like online dating remind of window shopping.

The real number one cause for lonelyness is the lack of IRL socialisation and social skills.

Also in the 50's there was preassure to marry, so attractiveness might not have played as much a role as you think.

Somerandomdudereborn · 2024-09-05T21:22:31+00:00

I would argue that the number one cause is the obsession with self improvement of society, especially men.

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Practical_Lie_7203 · 2024-09-05T21:14:41+00:00

i mean you'd have to show that most lonely people are fat for this to be a good argument not just state your feelings

DumbWordsmith · 2024-09-06T13:00:22+00:00

I think a trashy culture is to blame.

Many men aren't ecstatic about committing to women who have kids with other men.

Many average women, who can play the man lottery on their phones, aren't ecstatic about settling down with average men (especially the average dude who may be addicted to video games and/or corn), as the next hunk that slides into their DMs might give them the world. And then they can show him off on social media.

Many men aren't ecstatic about going down the path of marriage when they've seen where many of their fathers, grandfathers, and uncles have ended up.

Many average-looking women aren't ecstatic about dating average-looking men who aren't earning more than them.

Many people aren't ecstatic about subjecting themselves to discomfort and inconvenience when they can get massive dopamine hits without leaving their houses or putting in hard work. This contributes to rampant obesity, among many other issues.

IMO when everything is about comfort, convenience, and consumption but there's no sense of duty to balance it out, this is what you get.

Title	I think the number 1 cause of the loneliness epidemic in America is obesity or the health/fitness crisis
Author	anewlookav
Upvotes	3
Comments	94
Date	September 5, 2024 7:19 PM UTC (1 year ago)
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