I know why Ukrainians fear being drafted into the bloodbath, but more lion-hearted men must join the fight, writes female journalist.

Spins13 · 2024-10-15T07:27:33+00:00

Where are all the brave women willing to fight for their country ?

Different-Product-91 · 2024-10-15T07:31:37+00:00

Since the time of the "White Feathers", nothing has changed when it comes to conscription. Nor have repulsive females.

InsanityStreaks · 2024-10-15T07:34:16+00:00

"Dominika Yudashkina, 30, a tattoo artist whose husband is fighting in the Ukrainian armed forces, feels no sympathy for evaders.

'It's outrageous, and I have nothing but negative feelings towards the draft-dodgers,' she says. 'If people hadn't been running away from mobilisation perhaps we would be making more progress with the de-occupation of Ukraine."

Pick up a weapon yourself then. So many women are capable of doing what they're forcing the men to do but crying that they shouldn't have to.

Each woman should be forced to pay triple tax for life when this war is over at minimum to compensate the men for these atrocities

furchfur · 2024-10-15T07:32:04+00:00

Unless an equal number of women are drafted men should not fight.

It is not that hard to walk out of Ukraine. In the summer you can easily wade through some of the rivers

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-67120904

https://english.elpais.com/international/2024-09-10/the-journey-of-thousands-of-young-ukrainian-deserters-tight-border-controls-and-perilous-mountains.html

Crossing the river in flip-flops

The three friends walked through the thick forests at night with their mobile phones switched off, so that the border patrols would not detect any signals. “We hid from the guards, crossed steep ridges and rivers and slept in sleeping bags in rocky areas. We threw away most of the equipment we were carrying because we didn’t use it, or it was too heavy,” says Evgeni, while showing a filter that is used to purify the water they took from the streams, a 30-gram towel, and some packets of cream of mushroom paste and lamb soup. They crossed the river in half an hour in flip-flops, with water up to their waists. “We went straight to the border police and told them how we had arrived,” he says. The next day, the General Immigration Inspectorate, which has opened an office at the same border point, granted them temporary protection status. Evgeni justifies his escape by saying that living conditions in Ukraine have deteriorated significantly and he believes that the situation will only get worse in the next two years.

kiaeej · 2024-10-15T09:15:44+00:00

Huh. Why arent the strong, independent women of Ukraine doing their bit to protect their country?

Magical-Hummus · 2024-10-15T10:08:53+00:00

I wonder how many of the rich elite are fighting? Like if you successfully defend the country and the war ends, will all the soldiers and the families of the deceased soldiers own the properties and plot they have defended?

Or will the rich people come back and tell the pyhsically and mentally crippled men that everything belongs to the rich again?

This is by far my biggest grime with being convinced to defend a country. All the soldier are innocent and financially poor men who rented, not owned, an apartment let alone a house.

hai85rul · 2024-10-15T10:20:52+00:00

And suddenly women are not equal to men.. where are all the women shouting out for equality..cherry picking... so when it comes to being drafted, they play the weaker gender card..

Dudequality · 2024-10-15T10:25:28+00:00

Conscription is the biggest, unequal tax

DrewYetti · 2024-10-15T09:06:41+00:00

No mention of encouraging women to fight? Hmmmm where’s the equality that these feminists preach about?

vikarti_anatra · 2024-10-15T10:36:52+00:00

Fight for whom? Ukraine is more feminist (in bad sense of word) than Russia, especially now and it's goes in Western direction.

Women CAN serve in army if they want to in Ukraine and Russia. Some DO so.

Why she doesn't lead by example?

walterwallcarpet · 2024-10-15T08:11:38+00:00

Females always need to feel secure. https://cup.columbia.edu/book/sex-and-world-peace/9780231204750

Then, when they're secure enough, they revert to treating men like sh*t on their shoe.

aigars2 · 2024-10-15T10:19:03+00:00

Where are all lion-hearted women?

CompetitiveOffer5339 · 2024-10-15T12:10:21+00:00

Why doesn’t she join? She’s a tattoo artist, that’s not really a necessity during a war. If she thinks these men need to stand up and fight for Ukraine why can’t she?

walterwallcarpet · 2024-10-15T13:03:07+00:00

For it's Tommy this, an' Tommy that, and "Chuck him out, the brute!"

But it's 'Hero of the Hour' when the guns begin to shoot.

Rudyard Kipling

Dashadower · 2024-10-15T13:26:43+00:00

The systematic exploitation of men who don't possess power or deemed not valuable is so rampant and widespread to the point everyone is desensitized and do not view it as human rights abuse.

Our entire society and cultural norms operate with this abuse as its basis. Absolutely disgusting and oppressive.

Omecore65 · 2024-10-15T13:35:55+00:00

Wonder how many “dear john” letters I found a new man in Germany going on.

2024-10-15T12:49:53+00:00

What? And stop the lionesses from showing their valor on the battlefield? We’re not male chauvinistic. We firmly believe in equality.

AfghanistanIsTaliban · 2024-10-15T16:24:41+00:00

“do you have a fighting-age Ukrainian male hiding in your attic?”

New-Baby5471 · 2024-10-15T17:38:51+00:00

We need more women sharing the draft quota.

Modern weapons and logistics can be handled by every able adult.

Wonderful_Working315 · 2024-10-15T17:37:39+00:00

There won't be any lion hearted men left. But I think she just wants them to go to the front and the women can take their jobs. Then when the men come back (maybe) broken and wounded with no employment prospects, they can turn to drugs, alcohol, suicide.

Fluffysquishia · 2024-10-15T19:40:05+00:00

If it were truly that desperate then they should be signing themselves up.

AutonomicAngel · 2024-10-15T23:12:11+00:00

send her ass to the front line.

spartanpaladin · 2024-10-16T05:00:17+00:00

Men used to fight the war because there was a reward after winning the war, now even if you survived the bloodbath there is nothing for you, not even a liveable pension, just abject poverty and the same women will leave you and chose someone with money.

Idiodyssey87 · 2024-10-15T19:27:37+00:00

Jeez, just dispense with the pretense and break out the white feathers already.

flashliberty5467 · 2024-10-15T22:06:13+00:00

It’s a hypocritical double standard why is it my body my choice on abortion while men are forced into the military

Adventurous_Design73 · 2024-10-16T00:22:06+00:00

Why must men fight but not women?

mrmensplights · 2024-10-16T01:58:15+00:00

Maybe next she can go pin white feathers on men. It wouldn't happen though because this cunt would never risk going to Ukraine to face the men she wishes to condemn.

As she describes a horrific scene where authorities drag a man away to die she does so with the tone of someone getting sexual gratification. Sick disgusting woman.

ExtensionTennis7959 · 2024-10-16T18:11:21+00:00

Slav here. Women in former Soviet countries, especially Slavic ones, want to have fun like their female counterparts in Holland, but to be paid for everything by men like in Saudi Arabia. We have the expression “real man”. These words are almost always followed by “should” in one form or another. I can't imagine the expression “real woman” in Russian.

It is also men who must die for the state. Exit from Ukraine is closed to men of almost any age. Well, or pay a bribe of a couple of average annual salaries.

Open Instagram and see how beautiful Ukrainian women travel around Europe without any problems. And some men with money and connections.

Excellent-Berry-2331 · 2024-10-15T07:48:45+00:00

"There is no racism against black people", said the white CEO.

liquorbaron · 2024-10-15T19:15:54+00:00

Looks at her early life.

Every. Single. Time.

Additional_Insect_44 · 2024-10-15T18:39:35+00:00

Why not BOTH?

MembershipWooden6160 · 2024-10-22T02:40:52+00:00

They can't sell that BS to young men in Ukraine or anywhere else with men of any decent education in an internet era. Some still fall for it, but most men actively avoid being drafted, even for the price of bullying, bestings and prison or death. Those who are sent on the frontlines against their will simply use first opportunity to abandon their posts , usually during the enemy's assault, making it even worse for the military to send them there.

Feminism has its time to shine for the Ukraine and the West, let women take over the role of expendable young men, or let them at least take equal share... yeah, right. They're rather chasing the guys in the west, selling their onlyfans video, or resorting to be the sidechicks for the very rich men who send those guys in the frontlines in order to defend their furure turf.

It's exactly the same in Russia and you have the same response by young men. The only difference is that women and men in charge don't even try to hide this fact.

stupidusernamefield · 2024-10-16T06:11:06+00:00

It's such a difficult topic. Yes, the citizens of the country need to defend it, but nobody should be forced to die especially when you know women and richer men are not having to do any of the fighting.

My feeling goes down to if a man fights after the war he should be given a part of the countries treasure. A piece of land to call his own. A monthly pension paid till death. Possibly more? A political group that represents the men that fought and saved the country so their views are put above those that didn't?

Hot-Influence320 · 2024-10-17T19:54:02+00:00

Vote Trump. He has promised to end the war. I don't care how bad Trump supposedly is, if he can end the Ukraine and Middle East conflicts he's better than Harris in my view.

CarryAccomplished777 · 2024-10-20T01:38:23+00:00

We don't want Ukrainian women either, but as long as big brother uncle sam tells us to do it, we have to.

Germany

szopongebob · 2024-10-21T00:28:20+00:00

Women are capable of being in the military as well. Equality.

elebrin · 2024-10-15T11:39:10+00:00

More men would fight for the country, if the country was worth fighting for. Just saying.

unapologeticopinions · 2024-10-15T15:22:22+00:00

Man the last thing I’d want if I was conscripted is to be told to fight alongside a bunch of 130lbs women. I’m 295lbs in full kit, if I go down and need help, who’s going to pull me out of there? It would take two men, or 4 of your average women.

Now I can already hear “they can have women only units!” Imagine where those units are going to be kept. In the safest spots. And if they’re not, and they get crushed, that part of the line is a vulnerability. Not to mention the possibility of war crimes going way up. Imagine if Wagner stumbled upon a woman’s unit? :l

“Aw but unapologeticopinions, what about just having them in logistics roles to free up more men for the front lines?” That’s not equality either. That’s sending even more men to the grinder.

That fact is humans will fight and the best people suited for the job physically are men.

jamasty · 2024-10-16T08:34:57+00:00

What both you here, and all of these authors don't get, our main problem is not lack of people, as the lack of people is the result of the core problem - lack of equipment and munitions. So as a Ukrainian myself, I think these authors should focus not on the draft issues, but on the lack of effort by their countries.

If we got Taurus rockets from Germany, not 34 M1 Abrams tanks but 340 from US, F16-S not only from Denmark, and the Netherlands but also from the US, and other countries, draft issues would be significantly smaller - fewer already conscripted would die, and also civilians would be more willing to join the army knowing we are really backed by West&Nato, not with words but with solid, robust action.

InevitableCorrect418 · 2024-10-15T08:21:04+00:00

Admittedly though Ukrainian women tend to be more feminine and traditional than other nationalities. If this is the case, I can understand a man wanting to stay and fight

anillop · 2024-10-15T12:36:55+00:00

Man the Russians are really spamming these posts in here a lot lately. Yall are being played.

ArtifactFan65 · 2024-10-15T22:31:12+00:00

This must be rage bait 🤣

Title	I know why Ukrainians fear being drafted into the bloodbath, but more lion-hearted men must join the fight, writes female journalist.
Author	furchfur
Upvotes	838
Comments	143
Date	October 15, 2024 7:23 AM UTC (1 year ago)
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