Because we're taught "Don't run into open traffic" instead of "Watch carefully for pedestrians"... oh wait, we're taught both.

HugeFish · 2014-05-29T05:20:41+00:00

I was going to drug and rape this bitch last night but then I remembered I was specifically taught not to do that, so I didn't.

SlapMyCHOP · 2014-05-29T05:21:29+00:00

Men are taught to watch their drinks as well. THAT part is common sense, and not a gendered issue.

Steampunk_Moustache · 2014-05-29T07:39:11+00:00

I am pretty sure I have been taught not to poison people.

Like, I am pretty sure I knew this was bad thing before I was even ten years old.

AlongAustower · 2014-05-29T06:52:02+00:00

can you imagine having a son and daughter and when it comes to that age when she is partying and drinking with large groups of strangers you think the best way to keep her safe is to teach your son not to rape?

jackfrostbyte · 2014-05-29T04:26:09+00:00

The only reason we teach preventative measures is because people who are rational enough to watch where they walk or watch their drink are more likely to act on what they've been taught than anyone callous enough to even consider rape who's been told that rape is bad. Good people are more likely to act on good advice than bad people are likely to respond to social or cultural norms.

occupythekitchen · 2014-05-29T07:08:55+00:00

Seriously, we grew up in a world where some people will fly planes into buildings because of religious fanaticism yet people have the audacity to pretend every human being is worthy of consideration and trust?

First lesson a parent should give their children is trust is not given it is earned much like respect.

Men13 · 2014-05-29T13:12:27+00:00

We're also taught "don't take candy from strangers", "don't talk to strangers" instead of "don't kidnap children".

We're also taught "see something say something", "be suspicious of anything unattended" instead of "don't be a terrorist"

We're also told to "lock your doors" rather than "don't steal stuff" (well, in this case we're taught both)

We're also told to "install a car alarm" rather than "don't steal cars"

We're also advised to "make sure halloween candy is store bought and still wrapped" rather than "don't give kids candy with rasorblades/poison"

We're also advised to "check the airtight seal on food containers" rather than "don't poison random foods in the supermarket"

We're also taught "don't post your credit card information online" rather than "don't steal credit card information"

We're also taught to "shred old financial documents and always make sure to update your address when moving" rather than "don't steal a person's identity"

etc. etc. etc. - I could go on all day (or at least about a dozen more)

SwordfshII · 2014-05-29T08:03:43+00:00

Roofiing is actually extremely rare too....

skratakh · 2014-05-29T08:13:21+00:00

whats with the red cup? i thought the drink spiking thing was mostly with alcohol, shouldn't it be a glass or a bottle or something. i've only ever seen plastic cups at bbq's, sporting events, childrens parties and village fėtes, i hardly think theres a risk of drink spiking at those sort of things.

tHeSiD · 2014-05-29T07:01:26+00:00

This whole yesallmuslims is such bullshit not all Muslims are terrorists

McFeely_Smackup · 2014-05-29T15:45:39+00:00

How about another line to that poster: "When it should be: Don't drink until you black out and then insist you were drugged"

Actual drink spikings are so rare as to be statistical anomalies. The vast majority of suspected/assumed spikes are people simply drinking well beyond their limits and/or having alcohol interactions with medications they took themselves.

A couple of years ago, a drink spike panic in my state resulted in banning the drink "4 loco". police showed up to a party where several girls were passed out, and next night the news reported "the females were given blue cups and the men red to deliver the drugs, and the police interrupted a rape in progress".

By the time the truth came out that no drugs were found in any drinks/people, the passed out people were simply drunk, and the 'rape' was a dating couple engaged in consensual sex, nobody cared about facts because the media had whipped everyone into a frenzy and a canned malt beverage was banned. problem solved!

I used to work in a bar, so could tell several stories about drink spiking panics, but they all start and end the same. Guy gets drunk, passes out-he's a douche who can't hold his booze. Girl gets drunk, passed out-OMG! someone put something in her drink!

SirSkeptic · 2014-05-29T02:53:37+00:00

Hey, I think women should be taught to stop drugging people.

wildfire2k5 · 2014-05-29T06:51:15+00:00

I am pretty sure that I was specifically told to not drug people...no matter what. I mean unless someone is having an allergic reaction and I have to stab them with an epipen sure, but otherwise I can't recall ever wanting to drug someone.

Samurai007_ · 2014-05-29T09:53:19+00:00

Here's what happens when women are not taught to not drug men: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-57-i1S95Kk

ihaveissues247 · 2014-05-29T12:21:50+00:00

i cant leave my wallet unattended. why is no one taught to not steal? why should i pay attention to where i place my wallet?

i cant walk the streets late at night. why is no one taught not to rob/kill? why should i pay attention to my surroundings?

i'm being treated like a second class citizen and yet no one ever wants to defend my rights..

holzy444 · 2014-05-29T14:26:38+00:00

How dare you oppress these innocent women by offering them practical safety tips. #RapeCulture

stuffZACKlikes · 2014-05-29T13:35:20+00:00

I hate this. Generally victim blaming if I say watch your drink, don't set it down. I don't think so, I think it's just being responsible for yourself. The world isn't sunshine and rainbows, and while most people are good honest people, some are evil disgusting people, and I don't trust evil disgusting people to not do evil disgusting things. So yes, in a perfect time world you should be able to leave your drink and not have anything slipped into it, you should be able to get so drunk you can't take care of yourself. None of this means someone deserves to have something bad happen to them, but to an extent, everybody is responsible for themselves. Everybody must do what they can to protect themselves, and others for that matter. I just don't trust a rapist enough to not rape somebody. The world is far from a perfect world and it never will be perfect.

RockFourFour · 2014-05-29T17:21:02+00:00

To paraphrase Penn Jillette: I rape and murder as many people as I want. And that number is zero.

ExpendableOne · 2014-05-29T17:28:21+00:00

Here's one... instead of teaching men to hate themselves for having a penis and bend over backwards to indulge women in their heterophobic or misanthropic insecurities; teach girls not to assume the worse from men, check their facts first, not make false allegations, be responsible for your own words/strengths and don't destroy a man's life because you have an active imagination.

DarkGamer · 2014-05-29T21:28:33+00:00

At a rave I once got some water for a woman who was throwing up at her request. Luckily, I'd brought a plastic cup for myself so I could drink tap water and save money. Her friend was surprised when I returned with cup and not an overpriced $5 bottle they were selling at the venue; she looked at it and said, "I'm sorry but we don't know you." I realized at that moment that she assumed I was trying to drug her already violently ill friend.

It saddened and disgusted me that someone would presume a helpful stranger would do such a thing, and frankly I'll think twice before assisting next time a situation like that arises.

Arakin · 2014-05-30T05:21:27+00:00

I always ask people who post this shit: "What would you teach your daughter?"

xXxCREECHERxXx · 2014-05-29T14:19:11+00:00

Black people, no stealing! Maybe people just never told them?

Karissa36 · 2014-05-29T15:45:51+00:00

http://www.reddit.com/r/MensRights/comments/26qxpm/i_never_thought_i_needed_mensrights/

Does anyone else see the irony of these two posts and comment threads appearing on /r/MensRights in the same two hour period?

On the other thread, women are vilified for assuming that men might be dangerous.

On this thread, women should watch their own damn drink, and take responsibility for their own safety.

Pick a side, any side, but you can't have both sides.

nc863id · 2014-05-29T11:29:31+00:00

That's not a great analogy -- running into traffic is likely to get you accidentally hit by a car. Leaving your drink alone isn't going to get you accidentally drugged and raped.

I get your point and I agree, but there's probably a much better analogy out there somewhere.

TRPACC · 2014-05-29T11:22:08+00:00

In your analogy, the rapist is a law abiding driver, and the rape victim is a jaywalker, and rape is to the general culture, what traffic is to the road (normal).

Mra's, please stop getting involved in rape prevention advice, all we seem do with it is corroborate the feminists observations with poorly thought out analogies.

If you want to use a parallel - use one that actually works, use someone assaulting or abusing someone else.

For example - a wife assaulting her husband, a man being assaulted by his friend etc.

"Instead of teaching men not ask for a divorce, teach women not to cut off and mutilate their penis".

"Instead of teaching men to do whatever their wife wants, teach women not to be controlling"

"Instead of teaching men to wear a bullet proof vest everyday, stop people shooting".

"Instead of teaching children to wear bullet proof vests to school, teach children not to bring guns to school".

These are analogies that actually work.

If citing the same stupid analogies that don't work over and over was a valid counter argument, we would have won x1000 by now.

DavidByron2 · 2014-05-29T03:50:47+00:00

Nobody is taught to not leave their drink alone. That's an urban myth.

Title	Because we're taught "Don't run into open traffic" instead of "Watch carefully for pedestrians"... oh wait, we're taught both.
Author	StarHarvest
Upvotes	310
Comments	154
Date	May 29, 2014 2:31 AM UTC (12 years ago)
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