Why does TRP invoke such...PURE RAGE?

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April 5, 2019
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I'm talking like 28 Days Later infection rage. It comes almost immediately.

You can be the friendliest, most open-minded person on the planet and people will still rip your head off if you believe in TRP. Of course, if you sprinkle truths into casual conversation they'll typically genuinely laugh and say it's kinda true. But never EVER say what it's called. Once/If they find out where you're coming from you can just sense the rage-filled disconnection from being their friends or even family almost immediately.

This same reaction tends to come from anyone regardless of gender or political alignments.


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Title Why does TRP invoke such...PURE RAGE?
Author IcyChillMikes
Upvotes 149
Comments 139
Date 05 April 2019 05:33 PM UTC (2 years ago)
Subreddit askTRP
Link https://theredarchive.com/post/224427
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[–]Endorsed ContributorFereallyRed258 points259 points  (16 children) | Copy

"You have to understand, most of these people are not ready to be unplugged. And many of them are so inured, so hopelessly dependent on the system, that they will fight to protect it.”

  • Morpheus

[–]EvolvedVirus22 points23 points  (6 children) | Copy

It's like belonging to a cult of intellectuals, or being part of the real illuminati in the 1700s, or a super exclusive fraternity or historically-feared mysterious group like freemasons or something. You are feared, if you revealed who you are, there would only be rage... But when inside you are powerful and maybe inside nothing evil is happening, those outside hate you, believe fantasies and delusions about your evil, or are jealous of you.

TRP's knowledge is powerful, and it blasts open the taboo of talking about sex and gender divisions.

In the dark shroud of lies (such as bluepill culture taboos of sexual relations), the truth is a powerful piercing spear. The truth is a powerful weapon against those that benefit from lies (women). Same thing happens in Orwellian states, revealing the truth about the oppression becomes the worst punishable crime.

[–]0io-3 points4 points  (1 child) | Copy

We Illuminati now!

Good post. People are terrified at having the bubble of lies around them burst.

[–]EvolvedVirus1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

Kind a like a crowd-sourced illuminati... The core principle being true to yourself and honest on the outside and inside.

Bluepill society encourages lies and veils of decorum. This isn't honorable, it is deceptive. It is the opposite of the Enlightenment (which is what the illuminati was about in 1700s).

[–]mrrooftops5 points6 points  (3 children) | Copy

That's basement talk right there folks.

[–]EvolvedVirus-1 points0 points  (2 children) | Copy

Certainly wouldn't do this talk at a bar, where other than the basement, penthouse, or a pyramid would you talk this way?

[–]mrrooftops-1 points0 points  (1 child) | Copy

Mom's calling. Stop dusting your fedora and put down the 24 sided dice, your food's ready.

[–]EvolvedVirus-1 points0 points  (0 children) | Copy

It's actually a top hat... Is it ziti night?

[–]AwakenedSovereign13 points14 points  (4 children) | Copy

You quoted the movie!

Ten points for Huffle Puff. Seriously, that movie is made out of quotes that work for this sub. They could not have chosen more apt symbology when making this place.

[–]NightTripInsights22 points23 points  (3 children) | Copy

Its called The Red Pill for a reason dude

[–]_PM_ME_UR_LINGERIE_2 points3 points  (2 children) | Copy

I think thats what he is saying dude

[–]AwakenedSovereign2 points3 points  (1 child) | Copy

Ssshh. I used a big word so it's my fault. Ppl ain't know what "apt" means, too many letters /s

[–]Moldy_Gecko0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Big words are hard. Those tricky 3 letter words.

[–][deleted] 2 points3 points  (2 children) | Copy

"You have to understand."- WSB

[–]the1pope0 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy

Can you elaborate on that pls (WSB)

[–]herrazki1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

I found out about TRP in nofap subreedit someone writed that it's worth reading, the comment had -7 or -10 points I don't remember, I was curious why this subreedit have so much haters, 1 day later I am binging every post in trp and actually it made sense

[–]kakswap149 points150 points  (30 children) | Copy

Don’t talk about TRP to non red-pilled people exactly for that reason

[–]OutsideTheCage3 1 points [recovered]  (14 children) | Copy

You can talk about it, you just have to do so in a socially intelligent way... which most people can't do.

[–]traveling_introvert 1 points [recovered]  (8 children) | Copy

Exactly. Most tradesmen and professionals know how to discuss their craft to the layman without using jargon. Red Pillers should be able to discuss red pill concepts without using terms like hypergamy, Briffaults Law or gynocentrism.

[–]ChemaCB1 point2 points  (7 children) | Copy

Yeah, but what's the lay word for shit test? That one what's gets me.

[–]enteralterego15 points16 points  (3 children) | Copy

Easy - "confirmation". That is essentially what a shit test is. She is confirming you are the real deal (or still are and have not let yourself go). David Deida discusses this as some BS hindu idea about shiva energy etc. Its the same thing.

“The most loving women are the women who will test you the most. She wants you to be your fullest, most magnificent self. She won’t settle for anything less. She knows it is true of you. She knows in your deepest heart you are free, you are Shiva. Anything less than that she will torment. And, as you know, she’s quite good at it.”

I have on numerous occasions explained the concept of shit tests in corporate talk and some bullshit cold reading - tarot setting. No RP jargon was uttered.

Women actually love it when they find they are talking to a man who "gets it" and does not see their tests as an annoyance but a welcome opportunity for the man to be playful, pass with flying colors and make it a fun experience. Kind of like a father playing lightsabers with his kid - the dad knows he cant get hurt and he will playfully indulge the kid. Women are looking for that same confidence.

[–]animalapemachine0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Upvoted

[–]ChemaCB0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Confirmation. That's a good one. I usually just say test, but I also like distinguishing comfort tests. How about "comfort test" and "poop test."

[–]Moldy_Gecko0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

100%. Chicks are always excited when I say some RP "truth" like I actually get them and not the BS that the BP society tries to fill you with.

[–]TreesLikeGodsFingers1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

Just a test or playing games

[–]ShotgunTRP1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

Mystery called it “congruence test” back in the day

[–]Moldy_Gecko1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

Just use "test" or recently I used "validation".

[–]SLICKlikeBUTTA1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

Which is why they give the advice that people don't talk about the red pill. Most of the people that can socially pull off talking about the red pill aren't on the fucking red pill subreddit. So yeah the red pill should be the last thing most of us bring up in conversation

[–]kakswap3 points4 points  (0 children) | Copy

You’re right, you can talk about it if you’re intelligent enough about it.

The only thing I’d add is that some people don’t want to get unplugged, so it’s risky to talk about it. After all, you can’t help everyone.

[–]Tjommas 1 points [recovered]  (2 children) | Copy

Examples of how to go about that? My best guess is never to women, and to male friends you know would be open to hear, or maybe if their blue pilledness came and bit them in the ass.

Any other situations it could be appropriate? People are generally so fucking stupid and it pains me to see how ignorant people want to be.

[–]0io-5 points6 points  (0 children) | Copy

I was lucky that when I was 14 and got one-itis over a girl an older friend of mine who was in the Army explained that you have to be kind of a jerk with girls. If they think you're in love with them they turn on you.

If people actually ask your advice you can go ahead and give them good advice.

If your friend is fat you can always say something like "I used to be 40 pounds overweight and now that I've been lifting weights and [doing low-carb / stopped drinking soda / quit fast food] I feel ten times better. If you ever decided to hit the gym girls would be all over you. I couldn't believe what a difference it made."

There's really only so much you can do. Most people are too lazy to change.

[–]Moldy_Gecko0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

It's fine as fuck to talk to women about. They eat that shit up. You just don't use RP jargon. Same with BP friends. BP guys that I know, know I get laid a lot. I am constantly giving them advice not using RP jargon, and those guys eat that shit up... even if they don't follow it.

[–]Ryzasu4 points5 points  (6 children) | Copy

I redpilled 2 of my closest friends and we often talk to eachother about it using the full jargon and all (though mostly in a joking way). But yeah I don't recommend talking about it to other people than that

[–]0io-12 points13 points  (5 children) | Copy

I have a friend who totally slays with PUA but he is still surprisingly Blue Pill AF in his worldview: He's a "Male Feminist" who has gotten really good at hooking up on Tinder with girls half his age. When he betas out and they get sick of him he just finds new ones. "She's not THE ONE." It's almost comical.

[–]Velebit2 points3 points  (4 children) | Copy

And what is he supposed to do differently? Roosh V talked like 3 hours about how disappointed (and sad) he is that a ltr ended and did not become 'something more' ... look at Neil Strauss.

[–]golgynat0r0 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy

srsly?

source?

i thought he was very TRP haven't heard that one

[–]Velebit0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

He has very generic names for his monologues. One around time he was talking against nightcluns.

[–]0io-0 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy

My friend has learned to "spin plates" without any insight, and still has blue-pilled fantasies about NAWALT and unicorns and unconditional love, etc. So he's doing great if he's trying to be a player who hooks up and has ONS with Tinder Sluts. He's not doing so good at his stated goal of Finding the One True SoulMate who will love him unconditionally...

Last time I checked in on Roosh V he was sad because he'd been de-platformed and he's sad because the endless hooking-up with sluts isn't keeping him as happy as it used to. He was in "what is the true meaning of life" mode.

[–]Velebit0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Well finding nawalt is the story of human evolution. The whole death and reproduction thing is about improving the genetic hardware creatures are made of. You might heard of it. It is called evolution. The point of sex is not stimulating nerve endings in dick and your ego. The point of ego is to tell you your place in the world and the point of sex is to reproduce.

Your buddy is looking for good genes that were conditioned in good gene environment (quality women raised by quality parents). He is doing everything right.

Civilizations arose where people did very un apelike mating strategies. In cold environments like Europe and north Asia, MEN WERE PICKY and actually selected for beneficial traits which are not caused by some free will choice by a woman but by her genes.

Tropical breeding patterns are very 'redpilled' hence they don't promote evolution as much (apes are 3-5 times stronger then men per gram of muscle) but instead you get much more typical apelike reproduction and no civilization. This is why in places like subsaharan Africa and Oceania they didn't even get to iron age.

You just adopted r selected mentality.

[–]1DubbleFUPAwitCheez42 points43 points  (1 child) | Copy

You're making people think that they've been lied to by society and culture. Since those are abstracts and can't be yelled at, you become the outlet because you're the one exposing it.

[–]Modbsutansalt11 points12 points  (0 children) | Copy

If you tell people the truth you have to make them laugh... otherwise they'll kill you.

^ a paraphrased quote from someone famous

[–][deleted] 34 points35 points  (7 children) | Copy

I talk to my mom several times a week and every time she tells me "why arent you married yet?" "Your sisters had kids by your age" "you can find a perfect woman in church"

It hurts every time because I want to tell the truth that as a man relationships are littered with metaphorical landmines and it just isnt that simple. But I know she'll staple a tinfoil hat to my head and call me retarded if I ever told the whole truth. Of course she identifies me as a woman-hater as well.

[–]1redhawkes50 points51 points  (3 children) | Copy

Amused Mastery dude, "Why buy a cow when you can get milk for free".

[–]Sexy_Serratus17 points18 points  (0 children) | Copy

Lol’ed at this

[–]thismightnotbetaken5 points6 points  (1 child) | Copy

Why buy the cow when you can get it to milk your balls for free

FTFY Your seed is THE prize.

Edit : Didn't see the point.

[–]ZeppKfw-1 points0 points  (0 children) | Copy

"When you can get it to milk your balls for free"

Woah dude that sounds so wrong.

[–]Meterus12 points13 points  (0 children) | Copy

"I haven't found a woman yet who thought I was worth divorcing."

[–]PimlicoResident0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Even my grandma is fucked in her views. She recently explained how she is happy that women are liberated and not "slaves to men" anymore. And yet, they never talk to men about girls, I guess they understand I would simply be a beta bucks at best.

[–]MetalstepTNG-5 points-4 points  (0 children) | Copy

You do realize you are posting about your feelings on the publicly viewed internet, right? Your mom thinks you hate women. So fucking what. Go to a club and swim in some bitches. Problem solved.

[–]deathhandmachiavelli17 points18 points  (2 children) | Copy

It depends who you hang out with and where you live.

I imagine throughout the gynocentric, cucked United States, you would provoke mostly rage if you say anything that challenges the feminist orthodoxy that you live under.

Most people in the world still know the red pill though. Just not the psychologically castrated American (and European) males (not men) and the women who hold them in contempt.

[–]SLICKlikeBUTTA0 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy

Feminism isn't as powerful as you're implying. What are you talkin about cucked United States? I'm actually curious. You're pretty much insinuating that the United States is a cucked nation. What makes you think that?

[–]deathhandmachiavelli0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

What makes you think that?

Having lived and traveled in violent, third world countries for good portions of my life has painted the contrast between feminist-cucked America and normal societies.

[–]BumblingBeta11 points12 points  (1 child) | Copy

I've talked about Red Pill theories in other subreddits, without actually mentioning TRP itself ever, but people look at my post history, see I'm part of TRP, they point it out to other posters (literally quoting parts of my posts from TRP), and immediately disregard anything I have to say after that point. I've made perfectly logical, sensible points in other subreddits that have been downvoted to -20 or -30, simply because they hate TRP so much.

Most people jump on the bandwagon and downvote me/throw attacks at me, without actually responding to any of my points. Occasionally you get the odd poster who says "this guy has a point, I don't know why he's been downvoted so much", but they too get downvoted by the mob. It's really sad to see this in other subreddits.

In real life, I've mentioned it a few times but no one knows what I'm talking about. They just say "is that to do with the matrix?". I can't be bothered to explain any further, so I just leave them in ignorance.

[–]temerity186 points7 points  (0 children) | Copy

Don't comment outside TRP with your TRP nickname. Problem solved.

[–]NSPolaris 1 points [recovered]  (1 child) | Copy

Just shut the fuck up and don't go looking for validation.

[–]SLICKlikeBUTTA0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Best answer in this thread. It's a pretty cut and dry situation everybody's getting way too specific ...

[–]ZachMeadows29 points30 points  (6 children) | Copy

It's not even about talking...

My ex snooped around my computer and found out about TRP. You can guess that i'm now persona non grata in any circle of people she's involved with...

The delusion is baffling. Kinda cult like.

[–]deathhandmachiavelli31 points32 points  (1 child) | Copy

lol, stop hanging around wimps and dating feminists.

[–]ZachMeadows-3 points-2 points  (0 children) | Copy

Dude...

Your comment starts with "lol" and you want me to take you seriously ? I was merely stating what happened to me in the context of OP's story.

Also, you don't really choose who you work with. A huge chunk of people are wimps or pseudo-feminists. I don't care at all about them.

[–]forsaken_in_the_dark6 points7 points  (1 child) | Copy

Why do you keep contact? It's good to remove all toxic people. Why do you care what some circle thinks about you?

[–]ZachMeadows1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

I don't care what anyone says about me.

I was illustrating what happened.

But I agree that it is mandatory to remove toxic people from your life.

[–]Gawernator-1 points0 points  (1 child) | Copy

Don’t hang out with losers? My friends are savages lmao

[–]Ryabemo-1 points0 points  (0 children) | Copy

And now u look stupid for saying shit like this

[–]mrpoopistan14 points15 points  (1 child) | Copy

It comes from an inherent contradiction in human existence.

On the one hand, reality is obviously a negotiation. What different things mean is being constantly negotiated through small acts of dominance, submission, subterfuge and so on.

Those who've negotiated the present reality aren't particularly fond of a few things:

#1 They don't like hearing that reality is negotiated, except of course, when they're objecting to your version of reality. Then it's totally accepted because that's the pretense for changing your reality.

#2 Many of these negotiated realities are deeply contrary to actual reality. People can complain about gender disparity all they want, but it never ceases to fascinate me just how much women like it and prefer to live under it.

Look at the kink community. Half the kink subculture is now just a way of sneaking natural female impulses for submission into the feminist framework's built-in loophole for not shaming sexual proclivities. It's basically, "I like to be choked and whipped and made to submit, but I'm still totally a feminist in good standing and an empowered woman."

I remember reading this one female social researcher who was discussing courtship and making all these remarks about love and liberation. First, she was vamped up pretty fucking hot for someone giving a presentation, which I found both visually and intellectually interesting. Second, she drops this line casually in the middle of it that amounted to "All this is great for all of you, but my husband's a controlling motherfucker who keeps me in line."

In other words, she's preaching one gospel while living another.

#3 The main enforcement mechanism for culture norms is a challenge-response system. You have to maintain frame even as they recruit other people to shame you for your attitude. It becomes like a game of chess where both players start piling pieces on to target a single pressure point. The goal is to achieve an overload that breaks the other player by challenging them.

#4 The fact that reality can be shifted by changing the frames and filters that information go through scares the hell out of people. For many, closely examining those filters and frames feels like an assault on free will. For my part, I think it's liberating because you don't really have free will until you know where the controls are and how to operate them.

#5 A lot of the stability of society boils down to accepting that life is constant manipulation without admitting it. Looking behind the curtain makes people afraid you're going to tear down the whole thing.

And a lot of people have zilch to work with beside manipulation. For example, women in most societies are net calorie moochers. There's nothing wrong with this in a traditional male-dominant framework because the woman makes up the difference in calories provided by having sex with her partner, raising kids and maintaining the homestead. It becomes a real problem in the modern world because it speaks to the inequity of the arrangement continuing. And women apparently really, really like getting free drinks.

Plenty of social manipulation comes from virtue signalling. This is why you see so-called male feminists who turn out to be borderline predators. (See Joss Whedon if you want to know what a real work of this type looks like.) You also get the preacher/serial killer type who's using social manipulation to hide in plain sight. Lots of people do it, and that makes any examination of manipulation disturbing to society as a whole.

[–]robbiedigital0010 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Great comment, very nteresting read

[–][deleted] 6 points7 points  (0 children) | Copy

Stop bringing it up.

[–]MurkyArtichoke 1 points [recovered]  (7 children) | Copy

True, i've never specifically mentioned TRP to someone, but i have sometimes "sprinkled" some of the theories behind TRP in conversations and it's kinda baffling how mad some people get. I think it's mainly because they know deep within that it's the truth but they won't accept it. I remember having a talk with a female friend one time where we discussed dating etc, and i mentioned some of the theories about branch-swinging and women always wanting what they can't have etc, and she just completely flipped because of it. Like, we often joke about boys/girls, but this really got her mad for some reason.

[–]Dr_Booty_Eater694 points5 points  (3 children) | Copy

Hi. Female who believes in TRP. I’ve had similar reaction with other women and it’s appalling. You speak truth and they hate you for it. My switch is forever turned on, can’t turn it off. I won’t be blind and i refuse to be like these assholes. Sorry you had this experience. People hate the truth.

[–]bowhunter61 point2 points  (2 children) | Copy

You have the best username I’ve ever seen. Kudos.

[–]Dr_Booty_Eater690 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy

Thanks stranger! I promise I’m not pervy, just possess a ridiculous sense of humour 😁

[–]bowhunter62 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy

Ain’t nothing wrong with eating some ass; I make my LTR do it to me all the time. Fun stuff.

[–]Whatdoin270 points1 point  (2 children) | Copy

It's because you accidentally struck a nerve there buddy. You struck something that bothered her because she's close to it or IS it.

That's why she flipped out. I agree, I've had the same reactions.

[–]MurkyArtichoke 1 points [recovered]  (1 child) | Copy

Well, she's a coworker that i often talk with about random stuff like this. (don't worry, it doesn't affect my job) I sometimes tell about some of my "adventures" and she does the same. Thing is, she was in a relationship with this dude for a year or so, and she is still in love with him. She once went on "vacation" which happened to be in the city he lives. He probably just snapped his fingers and she was there in an instant when he was on a dry-run or something. I think some of that is the reason why she reacts so strongly everytime i mention some of the controversial some stuff from TRP, because she knows she's done this thing, that she can't let the guy go even if he's just using her.

[–]Whatdoin270 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Some people though, they never listen until one day it hits them hard. Figuratively, it's a bitch slap of reality. I can't hate on your friend because I was used by my ex. I thought so weak because of blue pulled human conditions. I was so wrong. It took that to happen to realize things wasn't right in life. I did what I was told and I wasn't satisfied, EVER.

I met that ex and I was truly happy and I felt like that was my reward for putting up with shit. It ended terribly and I've lost complete trust in any girl. Not because of her, because I realized that everyone chases what they want. So, I'm not putting trust in a girl who makes split second decisions anymore. I hold hatred for that girl, but I'm getting off point there. She was the first step that provoked me to find information and I stumbled across TRP. I thought it was a cesspool of dudes being douches, but it's not. I see why they became that.

To me it's vital information that makes so much sense and any person who tries to tell me differently won't succeed. I've made up my mind. I woke up. I just hope more people do.

[–]Zoddo 1 points [recovered]  (2 children) | Copy

Unless you wanna lose your job, and ruin relationships with friends and family stop bringing up the Red Pill. People arrive at TRP when they need answers. People who are still plugged in truly believe they have shit figured out.

[–]forsaken_in_the_dark11 points12 points  (0 children) | Copy

This is one of the biggest things you can do in your life is to admit you have been lied to. In typical person brain it just doesn't compute.

This thing is life changing.

I am now still in the anger phase and wondering if I had known about this 10 years ago would I not gotten myself into this shitty LTR? Would I lift? Would I read?

10 years ago I thought reading was for stupid people! That in the books, all you get is bullshit. Now I know why - because through school and friends the books I read were indeed shitty. Didn't know about stuff like 48 Laws of Power existed and I had no reason to look for it because I didn't think someone would write something like this.

But still, throughout those years I thought something isn't right. Why is my life shitty? Am I a shitty person and it is what is destined for myself?

A small change of thinking came when I decided to quit smoking and kept reading comments that people recommended the easy way book, how to quit smoking. I was looking for laughs - how a book can make me quit and had a mindset of nothing to lose. I read it and was blown away about the concepts described there. It took me some time to quit, but without this book I wouldn't be able to. A change of thinking.

That way I also quit alcohol (it was more difficult due to social pressure and by drinking most of my life I couldn't cope with emotions in a healthy way - something bad happens? time for a drink etc.)

When nobody visited me in hospital after failed suicide attempt (I couldn't cope with illness and LTR) I had some sort of epiphany that I must change everything. This is when I cut all my "friends" off.

Then when browsing Youtube, randomly, I found someone recommending 48 Laws of Power and that this book has changed his life. I was convinced that I have to read it and I read it.

This is when I realised my whole life was a lie.

When I was looking for similar books I found TRP and started reading.

Man, I am almost 40 now and I feel I wasted good 20 years of my life and I will not get it back.

But I'll get through it. I am accepting it and I am grateful I learned about it now and not in 10-20 years or never.

I feel bitter, but I am also so happy!

Given what I have gone through I know it is pointless to try to "switch" someone, but giving someone an enabling book like 48 Laws of Power could turn the person on the right path, but the person should do it at their own pace.

[–]bestsparkyalive20 points21 points  (0 children) | Copy

Man use it to better yourself. Shut the fuck up.

[–]Endorsed Contributorleftajar4 points5 points  (0 children) | Copy

Because parasites and satanists have been lying to you your entire life and done sometimes irreparable harm to your self-image and ability to connect authentically with other people?

Yeah no big deal. /Sarcasm

[–]2SirKolbath20 points21 points  (3 children) | Copy

The people arranged against us are largely on the left. Google “Parker Mankey” for an example of what they think is polite discourse to opposing thought.

Rage in others isn’t your problem. It’s theirs. Be you and be good at it.

[–]Revenant2219 points10 points  (1 child) | Copy

Also, nothing completely smacks those people in the face quite like someone who keeps their cool and responds rationally.

[–]2SirKolbath7 points8 points  (0 children) | Copy

Stephen Crowder has made a career of that recently.

[–]lololasaurus2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy

I just looked that up. I'm so glad I moved to a free state from the liberal workers paradise I used to live in.

Although I've been listening to Livy's History of Rome volumes, and despite living under a supposedly constitutionally limited government in a state that is well known for its freedoms of the sort that I value, it is clear to me that although our society is more moderated (likely I will never be at risk of becoming a slave because the Canadians make war against us and pillage my state, for instance), I am also no more free than a pleb was. Maybe on paper, but not pragmatically.

Good post. Thanks for sharing.

[–][deleted] 12 points13 points  (10 children) | Copy

Because while redpill contains some truth, it also attracts far right misogynists and other fringe wackos.

If you disagree it means you are probably a far right fringe wacko.

Note the other responses here - insisting everyone else in the world is crazy or dumb. If everyone thinks you're an asshole you might be an asshole.

[–]lapeparoja7 points8 points  (7 children) | Copy

"Some truth" Dont be a weasel, which parts of the redpill common knowledge you reject and why. And yes there are many macho-wannabes here, including many many "endorsed" guys, but unless you back up your claims you look like a concern troll and/or a woman.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (6 children) | Copy

You sound triggered br0. I also hope English isnt your first language.

[–]lapeparoja0 points1 point  (5 children) | Copy

Which parts "bro"? I hope you are not older than 20.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (4 children) | Copy

Which parts what cunt face?

[–]lapeparoja0 points1 point  (3 children) | Copy

Kid, let me try again:

Dont be a weasel, which parts of the redpill common knowledge you reject and why.

Capisci finocchio?

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (2 children) | Copy

What country uses 'weasel' as a slang derogatory term?

[–]lapeparoja0 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy

You still didn't answer, a weasel and a coward. It was not a derogatory term, just a descriptive one in your case. And to further your education "weasel" is not slang, it is standard English usage: https://en.oxforddictionaries.com/definition/weasel

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

I can't figure it out, are you European or just one of those spergy late 20 virgins? They sound the same on the interwebs

[–]classylassy281 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

This.

[–][deleted] 3 points4 points  (0 children) | Copy

Not a good idea mate, I've made this mistake and talked to people about it, including my step - brother. He is 38 this year and still wants to get married and kids, my family are generally concerned for my well being haha.

Honestly the best bet is to just keep this shit to yourself, some people can't be helped.

[–]KettleLogic5 points6 points  (0 children) | Copy

  1. The well has been poisoned by people who hate the theory

  2. There are actual misogynists that subscribe to this philosophy.

[–][deleted] 8 points9 points  (8 children) | Copy

That's why you don't overtly call it "red pill", stupid! If you're gonna talk about red pill knowledge, don't call it TRP and don't say more than you need to. Keep it casual, act like it's observation, and if someone smugly asks if you're red pilled, MRA, incel, MGTOW or whatever, you look at them like they have two heads and act like you have no idea what they're talking about, as if they're speaking Greek.

[–]pridebrah1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

Bingo.

[–]MetalstepTNG-2 points-1 points  (6 children) | Copy

Lma fucking o. This is called "rationalization" and the old TRP of reddit would have a fucking ride with this logic, he he.

You don't ever hide what your beliefs are and you never apologize for them either.

You have a point that you shouldn't run around proselytizing people with what OP calls "red pill." But the bigger point is that you don't shy sway or hide from your belief in the red pill no matter what other people think. If OP wants to start up conversations with people about TRP, he can but he should do it in a socially calibrated way that is empathetic but yet unapologetic.

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (5 children) | Copy

I never said he shouldn't be firm in his beliefs. I said that he just shouldn't overtly call it "RED PILL" and that he should act like he is unfamiliar with "internet manosphere"; That the red pill knowledge he's dropping is purely from his own observation. Need I remind you, blue pill mentality and sociopolitical SJW hivemindedness is what's popular, and you play at your own risk by metaphorically whipping your dick out and pissing all over people.

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

This shit is chess, not checkers. You are grossly underestimating how powerful and socially dangerous SJW culture is.

[–]MetalstepTNG-2 points-1 points  (3 children) | Copy

You still don't get it. You don't "act" at all, because you're not firm in your beliefs if you do in the first place.

Yeah, you're right, it is a risk. But real men take risks because their convictions are worth more than the "consequences" of some social interaction gone awry.

I'm not saying op should take a figurative shit on the popular masses. But if he ever does manage to get into the discussion of TRP that he's open about his beliefs in it regardless of what others think.

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (2 children) | Copy

Ok, I'm starting to see what you're saying.

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (1 child) | Copy

I misinterpreted what you truly meant. Mistakes were made, man.

[–]MetalstepTNG1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

No sweat, I appreciate that. Now go be the motherfucking mac.

[–]truthbomb9995 points6 points  (0 children) | Copy

People realize they are being lied to and hate the cognitive dissonance.

[–]elf_knife_love5 points6 points  (0 children) | Copy

Show don't tell...

[–]UnbreakableFrame2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy

Most of the people who get the most angry about my interest in TRP are ironically single men who haven't been on a date in months/years. I'm not that covert about it. I think the IDGAF attitude is the way forward.

[–]TRP VanguardWhisper2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy

All hatred is rooted in fear.

[–]furcryingoutloud5 points6 points  (1 child) | Copy

The red pill is like being an atheist. Better to just nod, smile and say nothing. Be content that you know the truth and leave it at that. Itś impossible to convince those who are convinced otherwise.

[–]MetalstepTNG0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

No it's not, it's a mindset. It's not a political party, religion, or has any semblance of spirituality or deeper meaning.

There is no "truth", it's just a set of values you live by to improve your life.

It's like saying you need a job to live. You don't actually need a job to be "alive", a job doesn't make you happy, take away hunger pangs, or support your emotional well being. It just makes it a whole lot fucking easier to buy shit and improve your quality of life. That's what TRP is.

[–]gbnz871 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

A lot of people use red pill as a reason that they can be an asshole to women and other people. Most of what you see online is just guys looking for ways to trick women into being with them and that really isnt what it is meant to be about. Its very easy to misinterpret what this community is meant to be from the outside and most of the people here dont help that image.

[–]FanaticMind1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

"I guess this level of idiocy and bigotry is to be expected from someone who is a literal Red Piller"

This is a direct quote and what we were talking about had nothing to do with trp.

[–]livear1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

Rage is good.

The opposite of rage is apathy. Anger is them saying "I care about this issue a lot"

I love getting angry at things, it's like the free real estate of motivation.

[–]SinisterIntentions241 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

When I first read TRP I was pissed. But I was a beta provider guy and I was being shown the light all at once.

We don’t like change, we don’t like being shown the truth. Beta providers will be pissed because they are used to their sad status quo of providing for intermittent sex. Progressive women hate it cause TRP shines the light on their manipulation tactics.

It’s like the cave, people are used to watching the same story and when you show them something different they hate it, even if it is true.

[–]MetalstepTNG1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

Look, people suck at Red Pill here and the community isn't what it used to be ever since reddit banned it, so let me give you some pre-ban input.

First of all, TRP isn't some fucking conspiracy, we're not truthers here. TRP is a mindset that people operate on to become more masculine leaders that America so desperately lacks. It's a set of principles that you live by.

Second, you should never be ashamed of or hide what you believe in. If you wanna talk Red Pill with people, then fucking talk regardless of what people think. But don't bring up your observation to the public internet, and then analyze that person's reaction to TRP in an anti societal circle jerk with other try hard idiots and wannabe's.

TRP is misunderstood by society and people hate what they don't understand because it challenges and frustrates them. Beyond that, who gives a fuck. If you're talking about why people hate TRP then you're missing the fucking point. Red Pill-ers don't do this shit because they don't care about being accepted and they don't care why society "hates" them (RPers set the frame, they don't let other people do that for them). And besides, RPers are too damn busy grinding out and improving their lives, including everything from women to work.

To conclude, TRP is a set of values. You don't talk it, you live it. However, if you choose to explain it, you do so unapologetically, but also empathetically to educate and improve other people's lives for the betterment of society and to bring purpose to your life as a man.

[–]ewoods41710 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

This post is great

[–]Blazerman_240 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Honestly, your best bet is to keep your knowledge close to your chest. TRP is a dish best discovered by one's self. That means as lot of folks will never find it.

Just use TRP to make your life better. There's no advantage to you in blabbering about it.

[–]WarriorMonkMode0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

For TRP to be true, their world must be destroyed as a consequence.

Basically, you're kicking people off of their piece of drift wood in the ocean and telling them to man up and learn how to swim. That learning how to swim to shore is their only hope and that drifting aimless in the ocean, being a victim, waiting for someone to rescue them from the big bad ocean is a waste of time. Of course people are going to cling to that drift wood like their life depends on it and fight tooth and nail against anyone who tries to push them off for their own good.

[–]Quigon-Jin0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

First rule of fight club is don't talk about fight club

[–]1tysonfury0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

First rule Fight Club is you don't talk about Fight Club

[–]UncleWarwick0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

It’s actually incredibly fucking easy to talk about the principles. You just have to do it in the right way at the right time.

If you fucking sperg out in the middle of a club, you’re going to come across as an autistic loser. If you try to push your view like a Jehovah’s Witness onto your friends, they’re gonna hate you.

OTOH, I’m lying in bed next to a naked girl I just fucked after talking about “male/female biology and relationships” for an hour. Cause girls love talking about this shit. You simply don’t sperg out, use the jargon, or be a try hard. You frame it accordingly depending on the girl as some kind of male/female dynamic bullshit. They eat it up.

[–]Anacondainahonda0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

My best friends are redpilled, but we never talk about it like that, we just mutually acknowledge the reality of the world and deal with it.

[–]TRP_mask0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Many will tell you that it's because they are blue pill and therefore see red pill as a bad name.

However, I get why they do so. I have a lot to be thankful for thanks to the red pill, but, even though I'm gonna get many dislikes for it, there are many extremists in this sub, I'd like to refer to as 'dicks.' And TRP, while truthful in its roots, is definitely not something to always write home about.

Read trp with a filter to see the purpose of it. Read it with the wrong filter and you only see the bad things. It's partly why we are quarantined, and even though we know better, they are not wrong due to these examples

[–]richarddbuckley40 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Whenever I do it I always use anecdotal evidence to back it up like “oh in my past whenever I invested all my time into a girl they always threw it in my face”. That’s a good way to slip it in because if people agree they’ll latch onto it and start talking about TRP. If not, people just dismiss it as “oh you haven’t been with the right girl” and move on.

[–]SLICKlikeBUTTA0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

It's not about people ripping your head off if you believe in the red pill. It's about people trying to rip your head off because everyone in this world is looking to rip someones head off. You have no need to talk about the red pill to anyone who didn't come upon red pill beliefs on their own. The redpill is like fight club. Rule number one about fight club is you don't talk about fight club. Just do your own thing. Don't worry about it.

People don't like to be reminded that they're not as in control as they like to think that are. People like to forget they're still just animals and they like to forget they have instincts. It's not your job to respond to them. It's your job to respond because of them in your own way.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Most guys won't admit they were stupid enough to be deceived for so long. My first awakening was in college and I felt ill and just stuck by head in the sand for a few more years.

As for women, after millennia of legally-enforced monogamy and being set up with men in their own league, society has rolled over and started letting them follow their biological programming. Which is to go get impregnated by Cave Chad and then seek help from their tribe and Billy Beta the tool-maker. Naturally they don't want anyone ruining this for them.

Of course, if you sprinkle truths into casual conversation they'll typically genuinely laugh and say it's kinda true.

Society has entered a purple-pilled phase. And it's no surprise. Ten years ago people would argue with you if you said that many women found jerks sexy, but now the dark side of female sexuality is all over the news. EG, the popularity of Fifty Shades of Grey and all the women who ran away to join ISIS.

regardless of gender or political alignments.

Another redpill. Mainline conservatives are just as bluepilled. Judge Roy Whiteknight the fundamentalist Presbyterian and Judge Shoshanna Shekelberg the proud Feminist will both assign primary custody of children to an abusive/neglectful mother over their father. Different lines of reasoning but the conclusion is still the same.

[–]FanaticMind0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

It's a genius built in feature, it alarms you to STOP TALKING ABOUT RED PILL!

[–]Dr_Booty_Eater690 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

🤣😂😆

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

breh.... who is this... names had me bustin out laghing

[–]BlackPillHolocaust-1 points0 points  (0 children) | Copy

Lol, wait til’ you start blackpilling people. Then you will witness true rage.



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