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Director of viral 'walking in New York' catcalling video admits edited out white men from it

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October 31, 2014
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http://www.ibtimes.co.uk/viral-walking-new-york-catcalling-video-edited-out-white-people-1472453

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Title Director of viral 'walking in New York' catcalling video admits edited out white men from it
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Date October 31, 2014 2:19 PM UTC
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[–]Senior Contributor: "The Court Jester"GayLubeOil 91 points92 points93 points 11 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

This really pisses me off.When Shoshanna walked pased me I was all like. Ay yo Jew girl. My face is like Gaza. You can make an illegal jewish settlement on it with that fat ass. You wanna spin my dreidel. My cat calls were both antisemitic and sexist. But then the director edited me out to make blacks and hispanics look bad.

[–]fasterpussycatdie 197 points198 points199 points 11 years ago (21 children) | Copy Link

"He added: "We got a fair amount of white guys, but for whatever reason, a lot of what they said was in passing, or off camera. So their scenes were a lot shorter, but the numbers themselves are relatively even."

Riiiiight.

[–]Fredarius 78 points79 points80 points 11 years ago (11 children) | Copy Link

I brought it up in r/feminism and was immediately banned. I believe it's got to do more with social status and class than downright sexism.

[–]Donald_Fuck 38 points39 points40 points 11 years ago (5 children) | Copy Link

Bring up anything, no matter how logical, you will get banned because you participate in this sub.

[–][deleted] 7 points8 points9 points 11 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

I was banned from r/feminism twice before I subbed to RP. And askfeminists

[–][deleted] 6 points7 points8 points 11 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

You made TWO accounts on r/feminism?

Shame on you.

[–][deleted] 5 points6 points7 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

No, I had appealed one and then was banned again in short order.

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points3 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Bring up anything not empowering women and you're instabanned

[–]Cryocasm 12 points13 points14 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Of course, the encounter would've been detrimental to the message this video wants to send:

"omg look at wymyn getting oppressed all day"

But when a white man comes, oh boy, she lights up at it because she seez deez Franklins $$$. Wouldn't help the video that much if the woman was being the choosy one.

Also, no use in mentioning it: social status and class are two large factors of SMV. Feminism tries to keep all this a mystery to take power away from men (read: beta men often say "oh ive not no idea with this" or they blame it on something of hyperbolic nature or on themselves "man im just shit at this/i wont get better/god couldve given me more skills").

[–]luciansolaris 2 points3 points4 points 11 years ago* (0 children) | Copy Link

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[Praise KEK!](59326)

[–]foldpak111 1 point2 points3 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Your silly for going over there. If you say anything other than women are angels you're done.

[–]ManRAh 54 points55 points56 points 11 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link

"In passing". Kind of like every other comment they included, except the one creeper who followed her for 5 minutes.

[–]Espiritu13 48 points49 points50 points 11 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

10 hours of footage and there was no good clips of a white guy cat calling? Bullshit, complete bullshit. Fuck, I'm a 255 white guy and slowly balding and I could get a catcall in 10 hours from a gay guy.

[–]downvote_heaven18 points19 points20 points 11 years ago* (1 child) | Copy Link

Not to mention, why would in the world would the director edit out white men, period? It was supposed to be a video of a woman walking around town for 10 hours, right? Believe me, they filmed every chance they could of someone hitting on that girl.

[–]Fzed600 2 points3 points4 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Because being catcalled from the lower class amplifies her oppression.

[–]newmewuser 6 points7 points8 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Was he really following her or that was just more bullshit to sell?

[–]nallalalla 58 points59 points60 points 11 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

Every time a good looking white guy said something to her she stopped walking and checked him out, or went off-camera so she could give him her number

[–]foldpak111 13 points14 points15 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

This reality kills me inside, and I'm a somewhat attractive white guy.

[–]Redpillc0re 1 point2 points3 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

i hope for our safety that this guy never makes any kind of science that has anything to do with the real world.

[–]legauge 76 points77 points78 points 11 years ago (5 children) | Copy Link

That's a convenient way of trying to save face without proof.

[–]fasterpussycatdie 86 points87 points88 points 11 years ago* (4 children) | Copy Link

And make it look even more racist. Hysterical.

Director: This is what happens when a woman walks down the street in New York! See the harrassment??!!1 Internet: Hm, there sure are a lot of black folks in this video...seems kinda racist. Director: But wait, we cut out all of the white people. Internet: So, what you're saying is, by cutting out all of the white men it's less racist? Director: Well, yeah. Internet: Ok, then....

[–]skoobled 16 points17 points18 points 11 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link

White people have the whole catcall-whilst-car-honking flex DOWN

[–]skoobled 10 points11 points12 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Just like letting out that trumpet fart masked by the toilet flush. We learn it during out women and minority oppression classes

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point2 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Seinfeld's bit on car honking

[–][deleted] 113 points114 points115 points 11 years ago (43 children) | Copy Link

More like white men didn't even notice her.

[–]PFN_LIST_FUCKED 186 points187 points188 points 11 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

Or they intentionally withheld their catcalls to make blacks and latinos look bad. Typical white men conspiring to uphold their privilege.

[–]JudgeRedPill 80 points81 points82 points 11 years ago (21 children) | Copy Link

White men don't cat call. I'm Hispanic, but my black friends accuse me of "acting white" for not Catcalling. I just don't do it because it's a waste of energy and is low class.

[–]RockTurgidson24 points 11 years ago* [recovered] (11 children) | Copy Link

I've definitely heard white frat guys cat call. A lot.

[–]kinkydiver6 points 11 years ago [recovered] (2 children) | Copy Link

But once they stop being frat boys and get a job, do they keep it up? Probably not, since they've figured better ways to get women's attention. Like saying "hi".

[–]FrenchMaybe 8 points9 points10 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Like saying "hi".

But there were guys who said "hi" and "good morning" in the video and it's being equated to sexual harassment.

[–]GWBusch 0 points1 point2 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Only because on any college campus the only thing a fraternity guy needs to do to get girls to go anywhere with them is catcall.

[–]downvote_heaven0 points1 point2 points 11 years ago (6 children) | Copy Link

Well then the question is if black frat guys catcall with the same frequency, isn't it?

[–]RockTurgidson3 points 11 years ago* [recovered] (3 children) | Copy Link

The question is more like: who cares? I just presented that as a counterpoint because what he said was objectively wrong. I'm not trying to make broad, over-reaching statements on race here. I'll save that for everyone else.

[–]downvote_heaven2 points3 points4 points 11 years ago* (2 children) | Copy Link

Well no, you're just making a false comparison, and I'm calling you out on it.

He didn't actually mean literally "white men don't cat call." He meant it like a comparison and general statement - kinda like saying "dude, chicks don't dig fat dudes."

[–]RockTurgidson-3 points 11 years ago* [recovered] (1 child) | Copy Link

...what?

Dude I'm not interested in getting involved in your little e-debate. I said my piece, countering the objectively false statement that "white men don't cat call". That's blatantly untrue. Fin. End of story.

No more responses from me.

[–]lemonparty 0 points1 point2 points 11 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

So, are you pegging blacks and hispanics at the same point on the class&couth ladder as....frat boys?

[–]foldpak111 2 points3 points4 points 11 years ago (5 children) | Copy Link

Dude all races from all classes cat call. I've seen businessmen cat call.

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points3 points 11 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link

There is most definitely a cultural tie to cat calling, I wouldnt say it has anything to do with race.

Come to Japan, a perfect 10 can walk down the streets of Tokyo and people wont even muster the effort to turn their heads and check her out 99% of the time. I would say it's more tied to culture and affluence than anything else imo, and culture is largely tied to race, so it wouldn't be incorrect to say that blacks are more likely to catcall than whites. Doesn't mean that them being black is the reason why they do it either though.

[–]foldpak111 1 point2 points3 points 11 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

So a girl in Tokyo would be psyched if a white man cat called her?

[–]RaiseOnce 2 points3 points4 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

You're onto something, mate.

[–]RedPill115 1 point2 points3 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

I don't agree that all classes catcall. The reason why these videos annoy non-feminist women is precisely because most men catcalling are themselves low value. See TLC's "Scrubs" song lyrics:

A scrub is a guy who thinks he's fly And is also known as a buster Always talkin' about what he wants And just sits on his broke ass So (no) ... [Chorus:] I don't want no scrub A scrub is a guy that can't get no love from me Hanging out the passenger side Of his best friend's ride Trying to holler at me I don't want no scrub A scrub is a guy that can't get no love from me Hanging out the passenger side Of his best friend's ride Trying to holler at me ... But a scrub is checkin' me But his game is kinda weak And I know that he cannot approach me Cuz I'm lookin' like class and he's lookin' like trash Can't get wit' no deadbeat ass

If you mean catcalling like feminists try to define it as "any time a man talks to a woman he doesn't know", then yeah, it's not race or gender specific.

But if you mean what people actually mean by catcalling - just yelling out at random women - then it's usually guys of low value, in my opinion and (limited) experience.

[–]Purpledrank 0 points1 point2 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Black men from new york are cat calling women on the street. Next at 5.

[+][deleted] -7 points-6 points-5 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

You're a piece of shit racist child. Race has nothing to do with intelligence or catcalling. You make me fucking sick.

[+]newmewuser -9 points-8 points-7 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

waste of energy and is low class.

That sounds like a cheap excuse.

[–][deleted] 11 years ago (15 children) | Copy Link

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[–]CryptoManbeard 10 points11 points12 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Could not disagree more. Catcalling is a way to avoid rejection without the appearance of being a vagina. It's aggressive passive aggression. It takes no balls and it doesn't work as a way to pick up women.

[–][deleted] 20 points21 points22 points 11 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

Considering the caliber of woman I'm used to seeing walking down the streets of NYC, she'd definitely pass by without even being noticed.

[–][deleted] 11 points12 points13 points 11 years ago* (7 children) | Copy Link

She's a solid 5-6 depending on how much you value the giant rack and whether or not you dig plus size, that said on any given day in Manhattan you could be walking by this or this if an investment banker was going to attempt a day pick up I don't the Shoshana is going to make the cut.

[–]draketton 12 points13 points14 points 11 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

those girls look like gollum. shoshana is a million times more attractive than either one.

[–]Pubesauce 7 points8 points9 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

One man's trash is another man's treasure I guess. I have a really hard time seeing why men find waify women attractive sexually. There's just nothing sexual about their figures at all to me.

Shoshana has a very curvy figure. Hourglass figure with big breasts and a big butt. Sure she has a bit of a manface and could stand to lose a few pounds but she does a decent enough job with makeup and fashion to mitigate it. Pretty hair too. She'd probably range from a 6-8 for me, depending on her makeup, hair, and clothes on any given day.

[–]1aguy01 6 points7 points8 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Those girls aren't nearly as attractive as the chick in the video. Face wise I'd agree, but overall no. Read up on hip-waist ratio.

[–]garlicextract 3 points4 points5 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Lol that second girl is rail thin. Equal to the video girl.

[–]hairaware 0 points1 point2 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

I'd check her out but she's not the type of girl I'd fuck sober

[–][deleted] -1 points0 points1 point 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Are you serious???? She looks like a man.

[–][deleted] -3 points-2 points-1 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

The fuck do you know about the way "most white men" where raised? Unless you did some study that I haven't heard of I'm pretty sure you're just making things up you really don't have any idea about. Personal experiences don't count as general facts you piece of shit.

[–]pissoutofmyass 13 points13 points13 points 11 years ago [recovered] | Copy Link

Yeah, no white men, no Asian men. To these groups, she is a low value woman.

[–]2IVIaskerade 13 points14 points15 points 11 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

It's not so much that she's a low value woman, but just that there isn't the same culture of commenting on strangers amongst middle-to-upper-class western society, and Asian society as a whole.

[–]thrownaway_MGTOW 147 points147 points147 points 11 years ago [recovered] | Copy Link

Now we wait for the rest of the admissions like:

  1. How many different outfits & women they had to audition and even do "trial & error" runs with, before finding one that achieved the specific desired effect (without being obviously "slutty") -- no way was any of that left to "chance".

  2. How much research went into finding the areas to walk through that would get the responses they wanted.

  3. How they had to pay some actor dude to "stalk" her for 5 minutes, and finally...

  4. How they had to put something on the back of the shirt and/or the ass of the jeans (which stay hidden) to get the so called "catcalls".

Trickle truth.


Note that if you look at the director's Reddit account ( u/robblissgr ) comments --at least the ones he hasn't (yet) deleted -- he backtracks on a lot of stuff that the articles don't talk about, like:

We walked just about everywhere, midtown was our biggest spot. Really it's a numbers game, 1% of dudes do stuff like this I'd say, so first we had to walk by the first 99%.

And this one:

I was completely uninvolved, no one had any idea I was associated with the girl.

Which doesn't make any sense relative to this one.

I was the camera dude who she walked 5-10 feet behind, and I heard only about 10% of the comments. And I was there, making a video about street harassment, and that's all I got. You'd be surprised what's said and goes on around you, street harassment is very 1 on 1.

Riiight, no one had ANY idea, at all... wow NYC people must be pretty dense.

Then this one is rather precious too:

I chose areas that had a lot of foot traffic, and I had her wear something that would be relatively modest. Didn't want the focus to be on her clothes.

Right... "modest" but actually "skin-tight". And note the admission (however subtle) that this wasn't "off the cuff" but all aspects were PLANNED.

Someone's gotta pick the talent, time, figure out how to film it, edit it, come up with the concept...aka the director of the video.

Which is what he proudly proclaims... right after he has basically claimed the opposite:

I really don't have the answers, but the goal of this video was to at least accurately depict what it's like, and what happens, as unbiased and without judgement as possible. Maybe some guys will see this and do the same, but at least now they can see it from the other side.

And then there's this entirely disingenuous bullshit:

It's about the collective weight of all of it. Again, and again, and again. Maybe if it just happened once it wouldn't be a big deal, but to deal with guys constantly on you, trying to talk to you, day in day out, fuck that. Imagine going about your day, and every single one of those guys said and did the exact same stuff to you. Wouldn't that bother you?

Well, no shit Sherlock, you had her walking around -- in what you admit was...

Was a total of ten hours. We stuck to high traffic pedestrian areas, so that might play a factor for you.

The number one spot was midtown, so there's that. We walked through just about all neighborhoods in Manhattan, but especially the ones with lots of foot traffic. Really its a numbers game, if I were to walk through Red Hook I might not get much because its not a pedestrian area, not that it doesn't happen there and everywhere, but I only had so much time to film.

Shit, this is like filming someone you are paying to stick their fingers onto live electrical wires repeatedly -- for hours -- and ones that you have specifically selected for their "voltage" -- and then bitching about the "collective impact" of the electrical shocks.

Riiight. Unbiased my arse. Then there's this:

Heck yeah Grand Rapids! It probably wouldn't work in Grand Rapids, or you'd have to walk for at least a week. The thing with NYC is there's so many people so you eventually run into all this.

IOW... they know this is basically a NYC -- indeed it's a "Manhattan" thing, and even then it's a midtown Manhattan thing.*

And the little "trickle truth" (which basically proves the entire premise of the video is knowingly FALSE) just goes on and on...

What an frigging opportunistic, fraudulent jackass. Pay him to create a video (of whatever fiction you want) and he'll figure out how to do it for you.


*EDIT: You know it's really tempting to make a SERIOUS (non-parody) response video to this:

Just get a (redpill) female friend to walk around various suburban areas and small mid-America towns (even some city areas & "high traffic" shopping malls) -- and here's the key: the thing would end up being basically "dead air", no catcalls, no verbal assaults, nothing, nada, zilch, zippo ... well maybe a friendly "hello" from a friend you run into, and possibly a few head-nods...

And then title it something like "10 hours of walking around where NORMAL people live." (Subtitle: Maybe you're living/walking [on purpose] in the wrong frigging places, price you pay when you move to the 'big apple' to be an actress/model, I mean WTF did you expect?)

[–]Kharn0 67 points68 points69 points 11 years ago (11 children) | Copy Link

if the footage supported their point of view, they'd release the entire 10 hours of it. But then we'd see that for every comment she got, she passed 10000 or 10,000 guys without incident. Then we'd see that the vast majority of the comments came from unemployed, black/Latino men that were standing on the sidewalks with nothing to do, raised in ghetto culture where they loudly comment on everything like at the movies.

[–]FaithfulJinn 34 points35 points36 points 11 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

10 hours of filming

2 minutes of footage

Only half of the footage was actually offensive by word or tone of voice. I mean most of the comments weren't even real catcalling.

"Good morning beautiful"

[–]thrownaway_MGTOW24 points 11 years ago* [recovered] (1 child) | Copy Link

if the footage supported their point of view, they'd release the entire 10 hours of it.

Not likely to happen. He claims that he ditched most of the footage... because it was useless (i.e. no catcalls at all).

Literally talking about 200+GB of 2.7k footage, most of which we discarded a long time ago so we weren't dealing with such huge files to deal with in editing

-- TwoXChromosomes/comments/2kkiex/hidden_gopro_camera_reveals_what_its_like_to_walk/clmgqx3?context=3

Think of even what they are claiming -- supposed a grand total of 100+ catcalls in 10 hours -- OK that's 100 across 600 minutes, or about one (just one) "catcall"* approximately every 6 minutes; through (since they mainly only trekked through) HEAVY pedestrian filled sections of "midtown Manhattan". And at the speed she is walking (probably around 3MPH, or about 60 blocks per hour) that's about 1 comment for every 6 blocks; let me repeat that another way they had to walk 6 full blocks to get just 1 "catcall" (on average; meaning the single block sections where they got 3 comments... well that means they got NOTHING for comments for the next 18 blocks).

*some of which he admits were "innocuous" greetings, just as he admits 99% of men made no comment at all (and I think he is exaggerating the "1%" because it's a convenient "pull it out of your arse" number that most people will accept -- but given the number of people visible on the street and their claim of 100+ catcalls, that 1% doesn't seem to reflect reality).

Then we'd see that the vast majority of the comments came from unemployed, black/Latino men that were standing on the sidewalks with nothing to do, raised in ghetto culture where they loudly comment on everything like at the movies.

Yup, not to mention that a couple of them may quite literally be people with "mental problems" (NYC has long been known to have more than it's fair share of those) -- IOW less of a "gender" much less catcall thing, and more of a "I make inappropriate comments to everyone" kind of thing.

And keep in mind this is/was emphatically not some objective, even quasi-scientific "experiment" to see what could/would happen.

This dude was HIRED to create a piece of very SPECIFIC propaganda, for an organization with a very specific AGENDA. The whole thing was carefully "crafted", by a professional director, with a professional actress, both being paid mind you -- IOW this is just like any other piece of commercial advertising, full of staging, planning, etc.


And BTW, I rather highly doubt that they did a full 10 hours of actual walking/filming. More likely they did 10 hours worth across a couple of days (the video itself seems to start mid-day, then proceed to night shots, then back to day shots and ending with night shots -- and there is NOTABLY -- no date/timestamp to any of it).

[–]alclarkey 16 points17 points18 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Then we'd see that the vast majority of the comments came from unemployed, black/Latino men that were standing on the sidewalks with nothing to do, raised in ghetto culture where they loudly comment on everything like at the movies.

I as a white male have experienced this. I have driven through the depressed part of my town while looking at houses that were going up for tax auction, and I got some comments. They were less along the lines of "Hey beautiful" and more along the lines of "You don't belong in this neighborhood" or "Hey" (I assume to sell me drugs/hookers).

The patriarchy is real.

[–]asdfghjkltyu 2 points3 points4 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

But then we'd see that for every comment she got, she passed 10000 or 10,000 guys without incident.

Exactly, the percentages sound bogus. He said himself 1% of guys comment? But 1% would be one comment every 30 seconds (or less) of walking. What sounds more likely is if they're lucky they get 1 comment an hour.

[–]crbirt 1 point2 points3 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Yepp, which is what we did see in the clip. But we have to somehow assume white men are behind this evil, somehow. Also, white men are boring in their coldness and lack of interest of spontaneous approaches to strangers, simultaneously.

[–][deleted] -3 points-2 points-1 points 11 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link

A radio talking head made a comment about the at the movies thing today too. I've only ever had that happen once in my life. Is it really that common?

[–]LasherDeviance 4 points5 points6 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

As a black dude, I will admit that it does happen. But mainly at horror movies, when the protagonists do the opposite of common sense.

Like the one commercial.

[–]dvrzero -3 points-2 points-1 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

No, I've never seen it.

I once hung out with a basque dude who started rapping "ice ice baby" in a crowded theater, and everyone was clapping the snare lines.

[–]schizoBrother14 points 11 years ago* [recovered] (3 children) | Copy Link

Good dig. While reading your comment I kept thinking about all the drama comments on fb from women claiming this is what they have to deal with "every day" and I think, this must be some sort of wishful thinking/exaggerated bragging, maybe trying to convince themselves and others that they are worthy of such attention. The white knights comments are just plain pathetic.

[–]thrownaway_MGTOW10 points 11 years ago* [recovered] (1 child) | Copy Link

all the drama comments on fb from women claiming this is what they have to deal with "every day" and I think, this must be some sort of wishful thinking/exaggerated bragging

Yes, I think it's mostly "delusions of grandeur" -- they want to think & delude themselves that they are attractive enough to garner such attention...

Most of them have probably never been subjected to a "catcall" in their life -- at least nothing that was serious... maybe kids at their high-school joking around (as "miss Princess" pranced around in her cheerleader outfit).

But how many of them will admit that they themselves have made similar comments about guys: football players at a local game, or commenting on "that sweet ass" or "nice package" to one of the dudes at a school wrestling match, or ... etc.

Of course see that is entirely different. Riiight.

[–]Frozen_Tundra 2 points3 points4 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

this must be some sort of wishful thinking/exaggerated bragging, maybe trying to convince themselves and others that they are worthy of such attention.

You forgot to include "poor me the victim" part to get attention.

[–]internet_terrorist 12 points13 points14 points 11 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

In every thread about this video no one ever points out the huge tits in a tight shirt. Does she think men are blind? If she hadn't been a porker with a brotherface and a quasi-modo gait they'd have been filming car wrecks happening all around her.

[–]Dream4eva 2 points3 points4 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Am I the only one who thinks shes not specially attractive at all? I wouldn't say anything about it but it seems like a consensus that she is somehow above average..

[–]capnsouth 16 points17 points18 points 11 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

What we should do is film a tall, attractive, muscular dude in a nice suit and have him walk around for 10 hours IN THE SAME AREA and say "hey beautiful" to all the similar age girls he sees, and see what percentage of women respond positively.

Bet you a dollar they are falling all over themselves to give up their digits.

[–]2insickness 11 points12 points13 points 11 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

midtown

Bullshit bullshit bullshit. It was not midtown manhattan. I have worked in midtown manhattan for the past 15 years. She was walking through Harlem and other low-income neighborhoods. In the past 15 years I've lived and worked in New York City, I've seen catcalls maybe a handful of times.

The people who made this video are strident feminists who would have LOVED to include non-low-income white men catcalling women. But they didn't because it does not exist.

It would be a great service for someone to go with a similarly attractive woman and re-do this 'experiment' and see the kind of interactions she gets over ten hours. Really go to different neighborhoods. I guarantee in any neighborhood that isn't low-income, she will probably not get one, single catcall walking around for ten hours.

Also, this woman had double D breasts and talks about it on her actress bio. You think these people chose her just randomly? Not a fucking chance. They knew exactly what they were doing. Then they dress her up in skin tight clothes but make them black so as to appear 'modest.' Bullshit.

[–]JimiJons 4 points5 points6 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

How much research went into finding the areas to walk through that would get the responses they wanted.

The Bronx. No research necessary.

[–]sloopyMcLoop 1 point2 points3 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

And this one:

I was completely uninvolved, no one had any idea I was associated with the girl.

Which doesn't make any sense relative to this one.

I was the camera dude who she walked 5-10 feet behind, and I heard only about 10% of the comments. And I was there, making a video about street harassment, and that's all I got. You'd be surprised what's said and goes on around you, street harassment is very 1 on 1.

Riiight, no one had ANY idea, at all... wow NYC people must be pretty dense.

Why would anyone have any idea? The camera was hidden in a backpack.

[–]armenia4ever 0 points1 point2 points 11 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

I think you need to start a kickstarter

[–]1thrownaway_MGTOW 2 points3 points4 points 11 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

For what? To make a video & upload it to YouTube?

Shit there's not really any cost involved in that.

[–][deleted] 2 points3 points4 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

No, the kickstarter is to fleece money out of suckers and build hype. Weren't the dingbats behind this video soliciting donations for some vague reason? Dude there just wants a seat on that gravy train.

[–]didled 0 points1 point2 points 11 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

I wish I could gilded you right now

[–]1thrownaway_MGTOW 4 points5 points6 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

I don't want to be gelded... I like my balls.

Oh, you mean "gilded", as in Reddit Gold ... gotcha.

Nah... not worth it.

[–]Captain_Self_Promotr -5 points-4 points-3 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Get this self flagellating shit off Trp. The director is lying, your post is wrong and wastes my time and dilutes the quality of this sub. You use phrases like trickle truth so youve been here awhile. You have one foot in trp for women but are completely unaware when it comes to race. There was no footage of white people or they would've gladly released it. Wake up. This was not a hit job on black people as you suggest. If there was any footage at all about white people they would have released it and used it to promote their agenda even further.

[–]sendhamsterfirst 20 points20 points20 points 11 years ago [recovered] | Copy Link

3 Hours Of "Harassment' In NYC!: http://youtu.be/75aX9mlipiY

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[–]Senior Contributorcocaine_face 10 points11 points12 points 11 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

She's tolerable. I've fucked worse, I've fucked better. It would depend on the level of effort I'd have to expend.

[–][deleted] 10 points11 points12 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

It would have to depend on how pleasant she is to be around. I doubt she is though.

[–]TekkomanKingz 3 points4 points5 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Judging by her intolerance to cat calls I'd say it'd be a tremendous effort.

[–]Gstreetshit 11 points12 points13 points 11 years ago (5 children) | Copy Link

Vid related

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=75aX9mlipiY

[–]PlanB_pedofile 7 points8 points9 points 11 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link

hahaha Oh shit! Well, that's what a top 1% man encounters!

[–]Gstreetshit 5 points6 points7 points 11 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link

True. But to most she was a pretty hot chick so it's comparable. It shows she is a goofy bitch and childish for griping about what she experienced.

I wonder what she would have to say if guys like vid related were cat calling? Probably enjoying their warm seed in her. Over 100 times in 10 hours

[–][deleted] -1 points0 points1 point 11 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

So is it just me or is he mediocre in looks? I feel like it's all about his posture+pecs

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point2 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

I think its his shoulders to waist ratio.. Women are always chatting about shoulders..

[–]Gstreetshit 0 points1 point2 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

I think it's his build more than anything. He also isn't clean cut in the face. He is pretty rough looking, which drives a lot of chicks wild. He is also a model.

[–]sociologist098 34 points35 points36 points 11 years ago (29 children) | Copy Link

Notice how the girl was butterfaced and cat called so much? Is the quality of women in NYC really that low?

[–][deleted] 41 points42 points43 points 11 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

Its only that low in the ghettos of NYC - the only places she was catcalled.

[–]cantbecool 10 points11 points12 points 11 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

She was catcalled in Greenwich village at 24 seconds in. That's hardly a ghetto. Regardless, it hilarious that people can take offense to getting called 'beautiful' or 'a thousand dollars'.

[–]Purpledrank 0 points1 point2 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

She was catcalled in Greenwich village at 24 seconds in.

So? In any given city, there are people from all classes in every rich neighorhood. Moving or being in a rich neighborhood and thinking your safe for example, is major folly.

[–]Position5hero 31 points32 points33 points 11 years ago (12 children) | Copy Link

She's a little chubby with a fat ass

She's bait designed to draw the attention of the lower class blacks that the director was hoping to catch 'harassing' her

They also choose a not so pretty not so white girl, so they would be more confident about the cat calling.

If it was a 10/10 white girl, most of the guys woulnd't even try, they'd be too nervous to talk to her.

But a average looking mixed girl with a fat ass was like chum in the water for these guys, and the director knew it

[–]CalvinHobb3s 4 points5 points6 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Absolutely. He pitched the right ball to the people he knew would run with it.

[–]Bwhitty23 1 point2 points3 points 11 years ago (5 children) | Copy Link

How have you guys seen her ass. I watched the video and only saw her front. Do you have a pic or a name.

[–]Gold_Mouth 5 points6 points7 points 11 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link

You thirsty?

[–]Bwhitty23 5 points6 points7 points 11 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

Damn straight I am but people say she has a fat ass and I just wanted to know what people were talking about.

[–]1aguy01 4 points5 points6 points 11 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

You can tell she has an ass from the front. Do you not check out women on a daily basis?

[–]Bwhitty23 0 points1 point2 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

I do but I couldn't tell from watching the vid on my ps3.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point2 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

This follows the same logic as those "pranks in the hood" videos.

[–]Purpledrank 0 points1 point2 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

She's bait designed to draw the attention of the lower class blacks that the director was hoping to catch 'harassing' her

And this was bait too, to get people to argue with the video being wrong. That is like a double viral aspect, the comments and hype. Similar to how gawker and jezezbel run articles that are just dead wrong. They want people ot be outraged. Those places don't even believe or care about the messages they are posting. The only value that they worship is money. Piles and piles of money.

[–]sociologist098 -1 points0 points1 point 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

true and ironically it is the more swarthy looking white women that stay away from minorities and are that much more desperate to have kids with the whitest looking guy out there. that is why I practically only go for blondes, redheads, and pale skinned brunettes that look clearly white. Mediterranean and swarthy white women are a huge no no for me.

[–]batking2 -1 points0 points1 point 11 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

Wait, so you're saying the director is a absolute racist?

[–][deleted] 2 points3 points4 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

No, he's just smart enough to know how to make the results he wanted happen. It's hardly racist to understand that a lower class black neighborhood is going to have a lot of dudes that would holler at a thick woman.

[–]HV123 14 points15 points16 points 11 years ago (5 children) | Copy Link

Yes, you are correct. I did think she had both a manly face and a manly gait. If she's a stunner, blimey. I'm not saying she is a munter, but not a hot babe, or am I missing something?

[–][deleted] 15 points16 points17 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

No, you're on the ball. She wasn't that attractive.

[–][deleted] 8 points9 points10 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

yes. This is what is now considered attractive in most of America. An overweight jew20'something is more attractive than over 60% of the rest of the females in the country. Look at all the tumblrina blogs trying to promote obesity and fat acceptance

[–]thrownaway_MGTOW12 points 11 years ago* [recovered] (2 children) | Copy Link

I'm not saying she is a munter, but not a hot babe, or am I missing something?

But she has big boobs and a sizeable ass; plop that combination (which she was selected for in a casting call) into tight-fitting BLACK clothes...

And she probably looks "shapely" enough -- when viewed from a distance -- which is what they were going for; the whole point was to elicit comments from dudes who barely got a "glance" as she barreled on past them.

Up close... no one would give her the time of day (not unless she showed some cleavage).

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[–]HV123 0 points1 point2 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

I dunno, she just looks like a bloke to me.

[–][deleted] 4 points5 points6 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Most likely her butterface helped her get catcalls from low-value males because they thought they actually had a chance with her.

[–][deleted] 8 points9 points10 points 11 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

Her plain but not quite ugly face and her fluffy but not quite fat body matched well, to me. I wouldn't have spared her a second glance, if she was lucky enough to get a first. The only catcall she would have gotten from me, were I classless enough to bother, would be to point her way to the nearest gym.

[–]damnyouresickbro 7 points8 points9 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Ladies and gentlemen, the most "bro" comment this subreddit has seen.

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[–][deleted] 1 point2 points3 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

I don't know where the hell you work then lol.. there's usually an abundance

[–]dhump 0 points1 point2 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

It's those New England winters, man. Bitches be lookin' all haggard and shit.

[–]sociologist098 -1 points0 points1 point 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

I have been wondering this forever for guys who date good looking girls in general.

[–]1neveragoodtime 19 points20 points21 points 11 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

Did anyone notice there's not a single instance of being catcalled when the guy is walking along side her? Clearly the solution to catcalling is hiring a black dude to walk along side you where ever you go. And apparently in New York, some guys will do this for free, as some kind of act of chivalry. Mission Accomplished.

[–]2IVIaskerade 9 points10 points11 points 11 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

TIL he's just a misunderstood nice guy whose chivalrous attempt to shield a young woman from harrassment was used as ammunition to accuse him of stalking.

[–]foooow 1 point2 points3 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

im pretty sure he thought she was playing a game by not responding and he thought he'd play along to see if she would stay quiet if he walked next to her without saying anything.

He saw her silence as a game. Had she just been a normal person and told him she wasn't interested he wouldn't have followed her.

[–]johnyann 17 points18 points19 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

I like how the white guy they "included" likely wasn't saying anything to her as he was on his phone.

[–]ModAerobus 8 points9 points10 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

This is why I will never take feminists seriously. They lie and manipulate the truth. They are never honest with the public, because if they act honest, the public will immediately know they are full of shit.

[–]scottlapier 5 points6 points7 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Most of the people 'catcalling' her were bums that try to stop everybody.

Edit: air quotes

[–]lloopy 5 points6 points7 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

More and more, it seems that this was just a staged-to-make-money stunt. "Don't tase me bro!"

[–]kipivafusc 4 points5 points6 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

The video is beta male shaming. The idea that this is patriarchy entitlement objectifying women is stupid rationalization. This is lesser males taking a long shot chance at a woman, and women (and a lot of men too) instinctively loathe them and shame them for it. It's sad all-around. Of course the video is edited to emphasize the most beta-ish stereotypes.

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[–]Endorsed ContributorRS73 23 points24 points25 points 11 years ago (6 children) | Copy Link

When I lived in Oakland, I started to wonder if my name was "White Motherfucker."

I know there can be racism against black people but to pretend there's no racism that's black-on-white or black-on-asian or hispanic is ridiculous. It's a denial of reality.

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[–]Purpledrank 0 points1 point2 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Some of the cat calling video was just that.

Really. A lot of that wasn't them wanting to fuck her. It was them fucking with her. Only in the massively delusional minds of someone who thinks they are a freaking legend, do they assume that everyone who notices them wants to exchange bodily fluids with them. 30's for women like that is going to be brutal if they don't like having and raising kids.

[–]2IVIaskerade 9 points10 points11 points 11 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link

But reverse racism don't real!

Seriously, I've seen it claimed (with a straight face) that reverse racism is impossible because blacks are a minority group.

Never mind that racism applies to any act that is negative and based upon race. Never mind that in areas where black people aren't a minority there most certainly is racism toward non-blacks, just as everyone harbours even a small amount of distrust for the "others".

[–]Newdist2 9 points10 points11 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

This is correct. Racism requires privilege. Since blacks are underprivileged, it is literally impossible for them to be racist.

For example, if Obama's kids have worse test scores than some random West Virginia coal miner's son, they should still get into college ahead of him, to make up for the fact that he has privilege and they don't.

[–]FrenchMaybe 0 points1 point2 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

In my sociology class we discussed how racism does exist both ways, everybody and anybody with eyes has slight biases; we are humans. We refer to those within our race as an in-group and those who are different (in factors, even outside of race) as an out-group.

The reason anti-discrimination + racism works primarily one way is that it still negatively impacts minorities more than whites. However it's no longer obvious events (sitting in the back of the bus, segregated restrooms & schools) but rather more subtle things which happen every day yet are harder to quantify. Calling a black person the N-word is still considered an insult just as calling a white person a "racist" makes whites hamster the fuck out of control and bring up how many token black friends they have. The way society works is pretty complex.

[–]1thrownaway_MGTOW 5 points6 points7 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

getting hated on if you are a guy.

Actually most of what I've encountered in "big cities" is semi-homeless looking dudes begging for money or trying to scam you.

It's what you have to expect in big metro, semi-ghetto downtown areas... you just ignore it and keep walking.

Taking any of it personally is asinine.

[+]1Dev_on -10 points-9 points-8 points 11 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

with your attitude, I can't imagine why minorities would want to yell at you

[–]m_sobol 4 points5 points6 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Don't ever try to lie or deceive the internet:

https://imgur.com/jid9mv4

[–]BCFtrip 4 points5 points6 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

The male version has been done. He got nearly 200% the encounters she did. Also, there's one a few years back of a well endowed man in London filming reactions on a subway.

[–][deleted] 20 points21 points22 points 11 years ago (9 children) | Copy Link

It did seem like a racist video

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[–][deleted] 7 points8 points9 points 11 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link

videotaped reactions (or indifference, as the case may be) from men on Wall Street and the Upper East Side were, for some odd reason, left on the cutting room floor. rumor has it shoshana made out with a few men who glanced her way.

[–]1Zanford 14 points15 points16 points 11 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

She reported in an article that she met her boyfriend on the train at the end of the 10 hours. So yeah she definitely hooked up with one of her white 'catcallers'.

This bit was very illuminating, b/c in the way she wrote it, it was very clear that her boyfriend-to-be's approach slotted into a completely different part of her brain than the 'catcalling'. Another example of a TRP precept - when you cold approach well, the girl won't even think of as 'an approach'. Instead "it just happened!"

[–]JudgeRedPill 0 points1 point2 points 11 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

Where did the rumors originate? Not saying it's false, but to randomly make out with strangers on the street seems far fetched to me. In a club or bar, sure, but on wall street?

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points3 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

I copied pasted that from CH, it was meant as a joke

[–]Captain_Self_Promotr 0 points1 point2 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

You're in the wrong sub. Social justice warriors nest at /r/sex.

You have a lot of learning to do so stop commenting.

I'm serious.

[–][deleted] -2 points-1 points0 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

yeah bro. Facts and reality are surely racist. /s

[–]DoesNotMatterAnymore -1 points0 points1 point 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

This is so gold. We just had a topic about 'faminazies are rasists'! I can't believe this shit.

[–][deleted] 4 points5 points6 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Funny to see the video backfire on the feminist agenda a bit. As we all know, feminism is really about maintaining power and privilege for white women. Now there's a little glitch in the matrix where the class and racial dynamics are too apparent to hamster-over.

[–]crbirt 2 points3 points4 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Can I just post a comment from the comment section of that article here?

This video is simply racist (and "class-ist", and "cultural-ist"). This is just how urban blue-collar and working-class men behave. Now middle class white people expect them to adhere to their middle class white culture and standards? I wish I could get the basic message of what's going on here out to all of the urban blue-collar and working-class men I could. Perhaps they could be persuaded to agree with what I've said here and then vehemently refuse to change and carry on being themselves. Anyway, I do wonder if the woman in the video didn't appear blue-collar/working-class and were dressed in professional attire if she would have been treated the same, or spoken to as often.

Caitlin Buelt 2 hours ago

That was just so horrible. I can add more two cents later, for now...

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[–]FrenchMaybe 0 points1 point2 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

I mean, it's the (white) feminists who would be stupid enough to throw money "donate" to such a worthy cause. They easily can see themselves as the white girl being harassed by the blacks.

[–]richardnorth 1 point2 points3 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

They have accidentally transgressed against the pc hivemind. They will soon pay white men to harass her in a second staged video.

[–]Lion1985 1 point2 points3 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N_kXZqG1BPQ

[–]masturbator9000 1 point2 points3 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

The sad part is that this will - in the eyes of feminism - still somehow be the white man's fault.

[–][deleted] 2 points3 points4 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Hilarious.

But not unexpected.

The theory never lies gents

[–]watersign 3 points4 points5 points 11 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

yeah, it was mostly muds doing this shit and not white guys. fucking liberals man

[–]2IVIaskerade 1 point2 points3 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Y'know, if he "took to twitter" to defend himself, the people posting this article could've included those tweets instead of simply "reporting what he said". They have already proven their ability to include such tweets - they've posted ones calling him out, but they can't even show one of him defending himself - god forbid that there be proof of selective editing on the internet.

The last tweet on his twitter was 11 hours ago, and was about how he'd be perfectly happy to talk over email (in private) about it - so either he deleted his tweets, or he never actually defended himself on twitter. I can't actually find any reddit comments of him defending himself either. He's mostly claiming that "oh yeah, there were other [white] guys doing it too!" but also "I missed 90% of what was said to her."

His username is Robblissgr if anyone wants to do some cyberstalking of their own.

[–]selfsufficientnigga 0 points1 point2 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

BAHAHA

Notice the guy they claim 'followed her'. He reacts and starts talking before she's even within his sight. That implies to me he reacted to the guy with the camera passing by him, and that implies they paid him to do it.

[–]RedRisingHood 0 points1 point2 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Redpill interpretation:

White men have their SMV wrongly inflated due to economic and cultural pressures (I say this as a white man) and women are not so much offended by being sexualised as they are offended by being sexualised by men they perceive as being of low status or value.

If a well dressed, well spoken White man who appeared attractive said "Hi" it would not be seen as catcalling, it would be "friendly" or "nice".

[–]watersign 0 points1 point2 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

this chick is pretty hot...does anyone have any pics of her?

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point2 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Bullshit. You can't hear or see the others, but they added text. SJW just can't imagine admitting that the 'hood' community of mostly blacks and latinos are the ones who predominately cat call.

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[–][deleted] 4 points5 points6 points 11 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

nah they actually do a pretty good job of that themselves. If anything, the jewmedia tries to cover it up as much as possible. Ever notice how any crime reported in the news, the race of the perp is noticeably absent unless it was a white on black crime. Then it gets smeared all over jewmedia for days

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