Why do you slut shame women? Don’t you know that you need women to be willing to have casual sex in order to have casual sex?

ScootsScoots · 2019-03-04T16:09:57+00:00

I never understood it either.

However, sluts aren't allowed to suddenly pretend to be good girls, Jack up their value overnight, and demand to be treated with respect that a housewife gets. Thats where a lot of the slut shaming comes in.

Slutty stacey wont give her new boyfriend a BJ because she doesnt do that yet I remember spraying my jizz down her throat and her loving it 3 years ago.

A salvage title on a vehicle doesnt magically become new because it hasn't wrecked in awhile.

Joey_Lopez · 2019-03-04T15:08:49+00:00

People have to slut shame women because way too many women are sluts these days. Most women today are not wify material and many men cannot find a decent woman to take seriously because they are all sluts. We are the first generation that can't form any meaningful relationships because all the women want to ride the cock carousel first and become unwifable. That's not even mentioning the single mom epidemic.

BirdManBrrrr · 2019-03-04T15:31:45+00:00

Men would bang sluts because sex. Sex is fun. Men just don't want to LTR or wife them up because of their sluttery, which is what you're referring to. Different standards for STRs vs. LTRs, just like women have.

Only women complain about men's LTR preferences and shame men for having higher standards for the women they want to LTR with, like you're trying to do.

And women slut shame much more than men, so there's that. Take it up with your own gender for that one.

thrownaway2thewind · 2019-03-04T13:24:29+00:00

Not all of us want casual sex with randos, there are a lot of us who want a committed wife/SO. Have you ever had sex with one guy a ton of times? When he gets comfortable with one woman he preforms better because he trusts her more.

Hard to build that trust when a woman is slutting it up to the whole neighborhood. Guys shouldn't slut shame women for making their choice but women should accept the fact that no guy wants to commit to a slut.

NiceGuyNumber4 · 2019-03-04T16:42:33+00:00

Sluts are for fucking, not dating. Don't put square pegs into round holes.

openoids · 2019-03-04T13:25:32+00:00

"Why not nurture female sexuality instead of shaming it?"

Why do people use "sexuality" for "promiscuity?"

[deleted] · 2019-03-04T14:06:49+00:00

Women slut shame women. Not men. Men seem to want to fuck more than women. We usually don't give a shit unless we're in a committed relationship and a woman cheats on us.

FatmanSlim93 · 2019-03-04T18:30:37+00:00

Personally I don’t want to be with someone who has casual sex or even a large amount of partners in general. If she wishes to engage in that behavior there are more than enough men who would be a better partner for her. I don’t get why people make this harder than it needs to be, date people around your level of experience and it’ll probably work out, and if there’s nobody around your partner count (like me) then you’re fucked and you should get on with life.

_Neon_Shadow_ · 2019-03-04T21:24:57+00:00

I don’t get it. You all want casual sex but also slut shame casual sex loving ladies.

We don't want casual sex! We want healthy, fulfilling, committed relationships. Why do you think so many RP guys are angry, depressed, and cynical? We want the blue pill dream but the current hookup culture doesn't allow for that. TRP is a reaction to the status quo. If healthy relationships are impossible, the next best thing is spinning plates. So that's where we are.

Don’t you realize you’re hitting yourself in the knees?

If you think our end goal is sex instead of a relationship, it would appear this way. But this is not the case.

Women already get slut shamed from all sides anyway. Parents, teachers, whatever....you get the idea. Why not nurture female sexuality instead of shaming it?

Female sexuality runs counter to male sexuality. The more women win, the more men lose.

Hypothetically, lets say we embrace female sexuality ... what happens then? Hypergamy and slutting it up runs wild. AF/BB goes into overdrive. Sure, guys will get more meaningless sex, but that won't stop us from being disgusted by sluts and not seeing them as relationship material. The more women that embrace their slutty side, the more men will see longterm relationships as pointless.

leftwingsoysquad · 2019-03-04T15:08:14+00:00

Because women who have casual sex aren't really technically people. Plus, we need to confirm that they are subhuman by acquiring proof. Casual sex with sluts is killing two birds with one stone, we get our nut off, then are able to submit their info to the secret male "slut database" we get access to with our Partriarchy Card(tm).

SerpentCypher · 2019-03-04T13:07:59+00:00

Why do you virgin shame men? Why is it okay to prejudge someone on sexual history when they have a lack of it but not okay when they have an abundance of it?

It also may not occur to you that casual sex isn't for every man. I certainly have no interest in it and I have no interest in high N women because it shows a difference in values.

wokein · 2019-03-04T13:32:31+00:00

Slut has no real definition. It is just a word used to shame women for having any sexual preference. Virgins are called sluts too.

[deleted] · 2019-03-04T14:27:05+00:00

Same reasons women slut shame men for going to prostitutes would be my guess. I don't personally do it - but imo that's why women are slut shamed. Sexual history isn't something I care about.

RedditRouge00 · 2019-03-04T15:05:32+00:00

its always the same users who make this argument day after day ,week after week.

CamoWoobie100 · 2019-03-04T16:18:19+00:00

Because I preferred the old system. But being that women are whores now, I'm going to try and get the best of both worlds, aka fuck sluts and settle down with a low n count/virgin woman. I wish women were not whores, but since I cant change that, I want my piece of the pie.

daveofmars · 2019-03-05T03:01:57+00:00

I think if a woman presents herself as an easy lay then she presents to the world that she doesn't have very high standards for herself, or that her only value is a having a wet vagina. People who are of higher market value tend to be have more restraint and caution when it comes to the people they sleep with because they know that giving it up for cheap means you're low value.

Sluts are shamed because sluts are low value by their nature of being sluts. You're right that it comes from everywhere, and not just from men, because it's within human nature to be disgusted at people who indulge in their base impulses without self control.

And for the record, being a slut has nothing to do with loving sex. You can love sex and do some crazy stuff without the casual hookups, one night stands, or ridiculously high partner count.

It's totally fine to know what gets you off, so long as you have some self respect. And no, I don't believe sluts have self respect. Inflated ego is not the same thing as self respect.

gunbusterxl · 2019-03-05T03:17:33+00:00

I slut shame everyone, men and women. I'm not a fan of hookup culture, or the people who participate in it. Guess I'm old fashioned that way.

abaxeron · 2019-03-04T13:50:48+00:00

Women already get slut shamed from all sides anyway. Parents, teachers, whatever....you get the idea.

No I don't. My teachers outright bullied boys for being bullied by other boys and never said a word to girls. no matter what they do or don't do.

I've never seen a father calling his daughter a slut, except in one TV show.

I had to dig into your comments to get any idea of what you even mean:

What do you call all that blathering about high n counts and how damaged women who sleep around are?

There's no "blathering"; there has been several discussions of objective data that point to certain inevitable conclusions. Correlation indeed doesn't mean causation, but in this instance, correlation itself is useful.

[deleted] · 2019-03-04T14:08:37+00:00

Why do you slut shame women?

We don't. We talk about how the world is.

Men have a biological preference for women's with less n-count and this aspect helps nurture better LTRs, thus, it is in a woman's best interest for LTRs to have a non high n-count.

It is a fact of life. Face it and deal with it.

We are not talking about "how the world ought to be". We are talking about "how the world is"

Don’t you know that you need women to be willing to have casual sex in order to have casual sex?

We talked about in the week before last one, girl. I repeat.

"She can have as much sex as she wants, but with consequences" to her relationship market value. As the world is what it is.

Also. We talk about high N-count, not being prude or virgin. You can have a good equilibrium of long term and short term desires. You cannot ask for having both long term and short term benefits with no demerits of either, that is not how reality is.

Even if you say you want to "change reality" you still weren't successful in that endeavor. Nor probably ever will. At least in this endeavor. So face the fact that this is reality.

You all want casual sex but also slut shame casual sex loving ladies. Don’t you realize you’re hitting yourself in the knees?

We aren't. Casual sex is different from relationships. You know the consequences, they know the consequences. We are all adults with working brains.

"THIS IS REALITY. YOU DO NOT CONTROL IT." is the core point.

Women already get slut shamed from all sides anyway. Parents, teachers, whatever....you get the idea.

No, they are advising women with a path to high n count that "if you want happy LTRs, avoid behaving in a certain way, the market have preferences". They do that out of kindness. They just know the market. And are probably worried about their future.

You wanna proof? Women who say clearly that they don't want LTRs in the future or showed for a long while no interest are not talked about this. The same applies to lesbians as women see no problem in high n count. Without any interest in LTRs there is no reason to restrain oneself. People are just trying to teach you the benefits of equilibrium of long term and short term interests.

Why not nurture female sexuality instead of shaming it?

Our society in general nurture female sexuality, so much so it is a defining factor of western society for the rest of the world. most of our society is fine with sexual behavior by women. Most places are even fine with cheating sexual behavior by women.

Some men just care for those close to themselves and know how reality is. True Slut shaming is a concept restricted to the books of history and the ignorant (also known as religious), except for those, it is pure care for woman doing a disservice to her own future long term relationships.

See reality for what it is. That is TRPs core methodology. That is the reason of the red pill analogy. That is why it has a problem with such (and other) feminist arguments. They do not consider reality.

Please. Just see reality.

Taipanshimshon · 2019-03-04T13:12:59+00:00

Women slut shame women. Tell them to stop

Aufbruch · 2019-03-04T14:20:50+00:00

Black and white, absolutist thinking is a waste. Stop it.

exit_sandman · 2019-03-04T15:29:03+00:00

guys who genuinely don't like casual sex, casual sex culture or at least don't like sluts for whatever reason
guys who have convinced themselves they don't like casual sex aka sour grapes
guys who are virtue signalling
guys who were rejected by a particular slut (or think they don't have a shot with her anyway) and want to make her feel bad
and stuff

ifeelfuckingterrible · 2019-03-04T22:03:07+00:00

Define slut shaming

Mandisi77 · 2019-03-05T01:22:53+00:00

Casual sex only goes to the top 20% if guys.

diffdedbed · 2019-03-04T15:12:26+00:00

Slut is relative. I've helped turn my wife into a slut by some measures as a swinger. She will fuck a guy shes just met while I do his wife. This is "slutty" and I won't argue that but she'd never go off on her own and fuck a rando. She never wants to do it without me nearby. I have no fear of her being unfaithful or cheating, and never have.

Then there is slutty where if someone is horny, shes fucking the dude if she can get away with it. That sort of slutty is going to be bad for relationship outside of some fetish ones. The kind of woman who doesn't care about others feelings as long as she gets hers.

I think a lot of inexperienced men can't tell one from another and assume all sluts are the same. Slutty for you, vrs just slutty.

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[deleted] · 2019-03-04T13:35:59+00:00

Sorry I love sluts.

I fuck a lot.

blackedoutfast · 2019-03-04T15:07:36+00:00

well it's pretty clear that slut shaming doesn't stop slutty behavior

Purplepillersarecuck · 2019-03-04T15:51:59+00:00

I don't know about that, but I know that Afghani militia turned American cunts into roast beefs.

shipiaozi · 2019-03-04T16:06:31+00:00

Casual sex is good but loyal partner and low paternity uncertainty are more important. High paternity uncertainty cultures tends to have lower paternal investment, which would cause much bigger problem than the lack of casual sex.

Sir_Koopaman · 2019-03-04T18:31:13+00:00

Because I don't want casual sex and I don't want women who engage in a lot of casual sex.

AstuteBlackMan · 2019-03-04T20:15:42+00:00

Difference between being a slut and casual sex

Theres also a difference in men. Some want women with little sexual partners. Some dont care.

Pastelitomaracucho · 2019-03-04T20:31:11+00:00

I hate casual sex.

And I don't slutshame, I just quietly avoid sluts.

equanimous_samsara · 2019-03-05T01:18:06+00:00

It's a primal human thing. To max-out their biological fitness, most women need at least a little promiscuity unless they can secure a highly competent man long-term (rare). On the other hand, men's biological fitness is severely reduced by promiscuous women. Nature selects against those men, so men have evolved to hate promiscuous women. It's an instinct that pre-dates birth control and casual sex and modern dating.

In male dominated societies, sluts are stoned to death (or ostracized). In female dominated societies, sluts will be celebrated and instead men who fall below a certain competence threshold will be ostracized or effectively neutered while they're of still of some use.

You can already see a shift of this in the west as women begin to dominate western society little by little. The future is supposedly female.

wtffellification · 2019-03-05T08:40:58+00:00

> Why not nurture female sexuality instead of shaming it?

"Because disease" screamed evolution

SeemedGood · 2019-03-05T13:09:56+00:00

Most men “slut shame” because most men are not preferred targets for women’s casual sex partners. And even for those that are there’s less appeal to being sexually chosen by a woman who is less discriminate about choosing her partners than by one who is more discriminate (and discreet) about choosing her partners.

tgertcher · 2019-03-06T06:28:33+00:00

Because sluts have standards too. If you're undesirable, then sluts aren't magically going to like you. Most of the "slut-shamers" aren't getting any pussy, so when they see some plain girl fuck 100 people they get pissed that it's so easy for women.

dicklord_airplane · 2019-03-07T15:14:34+00:00

Guys who slut shame and guys who are actually getting laid are mostly two separate groups of men. Women won't have sex with you if you insult them and try to make them feel bad for having sex.

Bntt89 · 2019-03-07T23:03:14+00:00

I mean tbh I think you should focus on women first they shame women a lot too. Also all guys want an experienced women for sec because it’s for pleasure. Men who don’t lie.

N0blesse0blige · 2019-03-24T11:46:37+00:00

Men slut-shaming women openly for fucking around is declining because it is increasingly shamed (in the West) and increasinlgy a private online event invisible to others.

When it does happen it’s mostly commitment-minded men (often less attractive who fall short) wanting women to commit to them rather than fucking other men for their entire twenties, only to be available sometime in their thirties possibly as a single mother.

Eastuss · 2019-03-04T13:06:53+00:00

I don't slut shame. I understood very well that more sexual women eventually means 0.0000001% more chance of me getting sex.

In addition, I don't think most men here who are saying that sluts don't make good wives are actively slut shamming anybody IRL or online.

LeJacquelope · 2019-03-05T04:05:24+00:00

This shit again? Slut shaming is stupid. I don't even understand the so-called slut/pair-bonding link.

ThisIsJustATr1bute · 2019-03-04T22:31:18+00:00

Power trip, basically just a sad flex. Look I’m going to sleep with her and then shame her after she can’t change it. Those types love to shame for stuff women didn’t choose. Society just enforced the double standard enough that it can actually get under their skin.

Title	Why do you slut shame women? Don’t you know that you need women to be willing to have casual sex in order to have casual sex?
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Date	March 4, 2019 1:02 PM UTC (7 years ago)
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