And if so, can we please all agree on the fact that they are essentially one in the same?

Every time female incels are brought up there seems to be a gaggle of men just waiting in the wings, ready to tell her how such a thing is impossible. Their arguments range from anything like “men will fuck anything” to “you’re just being too picky and only want Chads.” But those rebuttals seem largely to ignore the greater point.

Can most women (from say, 16-60) eventually find a guy who is willing to stick their dick in them? IMO, with some effort, yes. But even setting aside the fact that such an encounter may not even be pleasurable for the woman, there’s another problem with that argument. The problem of course, being that most women aren’t looking for the occasional onetime, one-off encounter with a random man – unless of courses she’s a literal sex addict.

Even TRP acknowledges that MOST women want relationships and even go so far as to say they would be happiest if they capitalized on their “youth” and sought LTRs out while young instead of riding the CC.

Meanwhile, a lot of desperate, thirsty men online will shout down any woman who says she’s not attractive – even, and in fact especially if she’s thin– and claim that they almost NEVER see any truly unattractive (relatively) young women while out and about in real life. Some of them even go so far as to say that they’d happily enter into a relationship with ANY “plain”, “homely” or even “ugly” girls if only given the chance!.

Meanwhile, in my experience, that’s far from true. Most (yes, Chad, Average dude OR incel) men wouldn’t (and DON’T) look twice at such a woman, let alone LTR her. And then, the majority of the ones that DO LTR such women make it very clear to her that they wish she were someone else and/or are only with her because they can’t do better. Sure, they may still have sex with her, some frequently, others occasionally, but as I said, the woman is most often well aware that he’s only doing so because he has zero other options.

That’s a horrible existence, especially for a woman whose (main or) only goal was to have a happy, mutually fulfilling relationship. It then comes as no surprise that most women would opt out of the SMP and consider themselves “incel” as they’re pretty much left bereft of another term.

When looked at with such a lens, I have to say, incel men and in….sil? women are practically one in the same.