One of my newer plates is a married woman with two young daughters. Her husband is a typical Billy Beta. Good job at some office or another, high salary, but completely pussified and a victim of the politically correct, gender equality bullshit narrative. The pillow talk I have with this woman is exceptional, and practically a waterfall of RedPill truths. I am sharing one such conversation with you for your amusement and further increase in awareness of how far women will go.
So we were just done fucking and she is in my bed texting somebody when she lets out this deep sigh. I ask her what's up and she tells me she's texting her husband to see if he can pick up the kids from school. Apparently he can't though and this has her all annoyed. I ask her if she had other plans and she gives me this horny look, telling me that she wanted to go another round. I shrug, give her a sheepish grin and tell her there's always next time.
She gets up and starts to get dressed. I can't resist teasing her a bit and suggest for her to fuck her husband tonight in stead of me. She turns towards me and looks at me with surprise. Not because she's insulted or anything, but because she genuinely thinks I'm crazy. She tells me she hasn't fucked her husband in over a year. Finding this hard to believe, there is still such a thing as duty sex, I ask her how she manages to get away with that.
What she told me blew my mind.
About a year ago she told her husband that she needed time to go “find herself” Being the BP beta he was, of course he approved of and supported this. So while she was abroad fucking her brains out her husband was “holding the front” back at home. Eventually she got tired of it, missed her kids or whatever, and came back home. By then she realized she really didn't want to fuck her husband anymore so she told everybody she discovered that she was actually a lesbian but that she still loved her husband and wanted to be with him. Billy Beta accepted this, told her she was also his best friend and that he would continue to support her in every way. Apparently he was applauded for this by friends and family.
After hearing the story I tell her she sure didn't sound like a lesbian about fifteen minutes ago. She grins and tells me, “well! I'm not REALLY a lesbian!” Then presses her finger against her lips and winks at me. I watch as she finishes getting dressed and leaves. Afterwards I spend at least another half hour in bed, just running through what the fuck she just told me. Took me a bit to process it all.
Gentlemen. This is what husbands are becoming under the politically correct, feminist narrative. Literal ATM's. This is also what women are becoming and they are raising the next generation of girls. I'm not sure if I should be scared or excited.
Poor guy. I can relate. Beta or not, no one deserves to go through this.
Reminds me of my marriage prior to separation in some ways. We hadn't had sex for over a year, with her always putting forth excuses to avoid intimacy - even kisses were sent straight to the cheek. After separation/divorce she came at me with "I found myself and I'm a lesbian" which had zero effect on me by then, since throughout the separation she'd revealed how far she was willing to go to get her way, including accusing me sexual deviancy with my children and claiming we had a history of domestic violence throughout our relationship. It's been almost a year and there's still no sign of Lynne, or Chad for that matter, but it wouldn't surprise me in the slightest if my kids started talking about mommy's new yoga daddy one day.
Without knowing details, it sounds like Billy Beta is trying to protect his children from emotional trauma and spare them a series of painful adjustments. If he's also a product of a divorced home, he's likely got those memories motivating him to keep things straight for as long as he can. Hopefully he'll accept that divorce is the only option here and he'll be the one to initiate, making it more likely he'll get primary custody, although it's unlikely he will. It's a terrifying road to go down and it's impossible to understand exactly what makes a man reluctant to accede to that outcome unless you've been there. Financial issues aside, just being away from your children and having their future be so uncertain can unhinge a man - many end up resorting to substance just to cope. Sometimes they get addicted or end up killing themselves.
The law is not a man's side when children are involved, and most lawyers will advise you to suck it up, place your pride aside and use diplomacy rather than storm the castle, if not for you and your wallet's sake, then for the children. Men are double-fucked with divorce because at the end of the day, cuntosaurus rex is the person you're bound to in raising the children with for the rest of their lives, regardless of whether or not you live in the same home. If you piss her off by calling out her bullshit, you risk opening yourself up to retaliation, threats and abuse, and there's always the worry that mom will project her frustrations onto the kids or worse - attempt to turn them against you. On your end, you're condemned to a life of feeling a degree of guilt for choosing such a horrible person to breed with; the person who will be the primary example of womanhood to your children. It's a business relationship you have next to no leverage in, at least initially, especially if you don't have a strong financial base to back you up.
This is why I'd sworn early in my life to never romp with a woman who was married with children. I'd never want to play with someone who was so morally bankrupt that she's willing to devastate the people closest to her, especially her children, in order to fulfill her selfish desires. If anything, you never know what they're capable of if you stop giving them what they want, and given their track record, I'd steer clear.
+1. I have a friend who exactly did that. Me myself, I also had my story of "keeping things as long as I could" because of other reasons, but this case you described is legit.
Guys, watch out. Especially if your parents divorced
It depends largely. My parents divorced when I was 4. My reaction: Where's my fruit loops and cartoons? IE I didn't give a shit.
Now yes, arguably a functional relationship at home is probably better than divorced parents, but divorced parents are better than sexless dead-bedroom "lesbian" parents who hate each other and stay together "for the kids."
Also, I had several friends in college who had their parents divorce. They had stayed together for years until the kids were all out of the nest, and THEN divorced.
Result?
Defcon 5. These college-aged kids' worlds came crashing down around them. They were devastated. The "perfect" family that was all they had ever known just evaporated. Now what? Were they going to have 2 Thanksgivings? Are their parents going to be okay? Omg omg omg!!!
Moral of the story: Divorce early. Never "stay together" for the kids. For your sake + the kids.
Great post I agree. As a product of a divorce I can tell you the effects are devastating even if it was a civil thing (like my parents who are still on great terms). That said it comes a time where a man needs to grow some balls in put his wife in a wife's place.
I’ve seen this play out first-hand. Cuntasaurus Rex spends all the maintenance/child support money on herself whilst simultaneously and constantly telling the kids what a shitbag their dad is (she left him, and kicked him out of the marital house when he’d done nothing wrong) and making it damn near impossible for him to see them.
It’s pretty fucking devastating seeing innocent kids wrongly turned against their own father by some crazy, bitter, twisted cunt. But that said, whilst I agree with the notion that OP should not stick his dick in crazy, I don’t agree with the moralising going on in here. This is solely on her, not OP.
Edit: fixed misuse of “alimony”.
What you described is literally how my situation played out. It was Hell.
On the other note; a lot of men consider morality inherent to masculinity. Obviously we don't all agree on that, but if morality doesn't matter to the OP or those that share his point of view, why attack the opinion?
People that believe in morality are going to express it when they believe the time is relevant. Expecting a man not to express his beliefs is like expecting a child not to lie.
It's not called alimony, it's called child support. Alimony would be where you give your ex-wife regular payments, so she can continue living with the same lifestyle she did pre-divorce.
It's meant to give women financial support after a divorce, so they can get a job, but it's a shitty system that's abused by women. They aren't obligated to get a job, or earn any money themselves at all, and it usually lasts years, until they eventually marry some other poor guy.
A good example of this, is Brendan Fraser. After he divorced his wife, she asked for child support, and $900,000 a year in alimony. He's been paying it for years, way longer than their marriage lasted, and that amount was calculated from his earnings in the peak of his career.
He's an actor who made most of his money when he was young, attractive, and popular, and he made most of it from just a few popular movies at the time. He told the judge he couldn't afford to pay $900,000 a year, and he tried to get his alimony adjusted for lack of work, but it was denied, AND THEN his wife accused him of hiding financial assets.
Here's a clip of him from a recent interview, it's sad to see him now, he looks completely broken.
Well that sucks. The system is fucked, don’t get married.
I’ll fix my post, thanks.
"I'd never want to play with someone who was so morally bankrupt that she's willing to devastate the people closest to her, especially her children, in order to fulfill her selfish desires."
Amen brother. Unfortunately, i have been through that twice.
i give props to the guy, i mean... as someone who has gone through a broken home and SEEN IT ALL...
it really has had an effect on me. there is and never has been that " togetherness" in my family and i really miss/needed it.
sometimes I am even jealous of people who have had that. i guess every family has its problems... mine just happened to be a trainwreck we talk about openly ( well my sister and I do). It sucks balls but what can you do?
We all have to play the hand we're dealt. Do the best you can with it.
Women will do anything for the right man. ALL WOMEN!
Themselves, good sir. Women will do anything for themselves.
Ummmm, sure. That and a pair of testicles.
Before I discovered TRP, I would have said you were making this up.
thats what all the rappers and people who suddenly got involved with a lots of women feel too. in the begining you felt for all that shit, I mean why not, you dont see the truth before you get involved with a lot of women. then you see the truth more and more.
my favorite scene for this https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4AHH0bdNKyM
it is impossible to respect woman 100% after you know how they tick
Jesus Christ that video is amazing
Took the words right out of my mouth. Been thinking that too recently, how most rappers seem disrespectful to women (maybe a bit) but they sure know the truth about them.
Lol all of these moral beacons are missing the point. Sure, it's not a shining example of humanity to bang a married woman, but sexuality is amoral. The point we should all be making to you, OP, is that this kind of shit is potentially hazardous.
Play stupid games, win stupid prizes, OP. Watch out.
THIS!
This story is not just a red flag. Is a fucking blood moon coming to crash OP's world like a meteor. Let that plate go.
I know we aren't really here to discuss philosophy. But to say sexuality is amoral really is pushing it. I guess it depends on whether you think morality is inherent or crafted (by culture/society)
I just don't think it's safe to make those claims in this forum with so many impressionable minds.
You must be new here to have not heard it before, the idea is pretty core to RP beliefs. Except he didn't phrase it correctly. It's usually "sexual strategy is amoral." Which is very different from saying "sexuality is amoral."
I believe it absolutely is moral.
Case in point: Rape wouldn't be considered such a vile act if we didn't intuitively understand sexuality to be a deeply moral issue.
The statement "sexual strategy is amoral" doesn't mean one's strategy has zero moral consequences. It's only saying that the most effective route to getting sex is not necessarily the most virtuous. If your primary goal is sex, you have to think pragmatically, not morally. I think the main reason people hammer the idea around here is that it's a necessary step in shaking newcomers out of their old paradigm.
That said, I think there have indeed been some "impressionable minds", or maybe opportunistic nihilists is more accurate, who have fully and consciously perverted it into the rephrased "sexuality is amoral" lest they find it too difficult to look at themselves in the mirror. I've definitely grown into a more c'est la vie attitude towards these kinds of guys... if they want to behave that way, I can't stop them (and after reading enough stories about women like in the OP, a part of me can't really blame them).
But what pisses me off is people who take it down a social constructivist route like a damn SJW rationalizing their behavior as though there is no right or wrong, everything subjective, everything is endlessly relative. That's cowardly bullshit. Everyone's welcome to be a piece of shit if they'd like, but at least own it.
Men split first into two categories, those who are aware of the collapse of our civilization and those who are oblivious to it, and then into four: the oblivious who contribute to the collapse, the oblivious who abstain, the aware who contribute to the collapse, and the aware who abstain.
A lot of RPers have said "enjoy the decline." Well what happens after the decline? You get to die off and forget about it? Eventually the task to rebuild must fall on the shoulders of some men. And if something isn't done by men right now, those some men won't even be born. Try telling the father of one of the thousands of girls raped and beaten by gangs of Pakistani shit stains in the UK to "enjoy the decline." Enjoy watching everything you've inherited and breathed life into be torn to shit and spat on by ungrateful degenerates, or worse yet add to it?! What kind of a masochistic bitch mindset is this? Is this really what has become of the Western man? For all the talk of beta's cucking to gynocentrism, it sure is something seeing the supposed alphas here scoff at the "moralizing simps" among us when they are just as guilty of molding their self-image and morals in the service of women's solipsistic self-interest.
FYI this is how you end up getting shot walking to your car. Getting involved with stupid bullshit like this.
Not trying to moralize, but this is a crazy person. Very likely cluster-b and you're probably going to get triangulated for her amusement.
Exactly! I couldn't even enjoy having sex with a woman like this. Plus I'd be terrified.
This is all I could think while reading this. The whole situation must have horrible energy. Sounds like OP is in it for his self-esteem, while she's in it because she hates the predicament she's stuck in and doing anything to take her mind off of it.
She's a shitty person without question. OP doesn't sound much better. He's not here to teach anyone anything, but to boast and lock down some bro points. Because sex with the cheating liar isn't validation enough.
So happy I found my way out of that world. It's freeing.
Nah, this is about giving a perspective from the other side. Most of us have seen something like this from the side of the friends who applauded Billy Beta's response.
Agreed. On the other side of it the op seems to get as much pleasure out of kicking around a beta as he does banging the hoe.
At the end of the day that beta is just trying to be a good father. It’s sad that he has compromise his own happiness to achieve it.
OP is a Chad.
But OP is a Chad in the wrong situation.
Yeah, I get your point.
This is actually the first married plate on my roster and I'm figuring it out as I go. Definitely will be careful with her though.
Thing is she seemed perfectly normal at the start of it all, as far as women go.
"Seemed normal". She's just a real good liar
She's just a woman. This story isn't new.
You said this isn't her first time cheating so there is a good chance she is very in tune with what your ego needs and giving you just that. Keep in mind she is doing it for herself and just using you as a means to an end. For all you know she's looking into divorce and you're next on her list.
The moment you want to stop shit will hit the fan and you'll be front and center. Don't know if you have an easy out right now but if you see one, like her suggesting you two stop, take it.
Meh, just act beta. She'll be gone within the hour.
If you're not going to stop seeing her just make sure you wear a condom every single time. You're probably not the only guy she's fucking and you should never rely on a crazy person to bring protection. Needles are cheap.
Most of them seems "normal" at first, chicks are crazy. But you have to adapt to this fucked world we live in.. EDIT: clarity
No need to justify your choice. Fucking another man's woman is a great feeling.
Right? I was pretty surprised by the moral backlash I got on this. Not expecting it on the Redpill given its purpose but oh well.
I can understand the moral backlash, of course it's not supposed to exist here, but TRP has grown away from it's roots a bit. Personally I've been attracted to married women from an early age. Something about "she's already got a man but she still wants me instead." Is that terrible logic that ignores the psychology of the situation. Yes. Does it mean I have some issues that may need addressing? Probably. Does that make it any less exciting? Nope. Probably more so actually, because her putting herself in that situation means that I can IDGAF when SHTF. And it will.
80/20 applies here as well.
Bro-knighting and whiteknighting are deeply rooted in many here. Just take it as a sign of them unable to unplug all the way.
The morals society drills in to keep you from doing whatever the fuck you want to do run deep.
Keep fucking the crazies and the taken.
Few hot girls, legions of men. Simple math
Most women 7+ and beyond college age are taken or are in transition to someone else. Small breaks if ever in between, and only a small circle is in close proximity and contact with her during this gap. To get most attractive women, you must take them from someone else. The SMP is not fair. Nature 'designed' it that way.
Not so much an inability but a lack of time. People come here to start the process of unplugging. Once unplugged the only reason to stay is to teach the green peas or to get refreshed.
'seemed normal': famous last words. I appreciate your honesty here. Good luck.
The only way to be careful is to just let her go.
Trying to control this is an illusion.
Fuck these simps & their morality bullshit bro. Keep on.
From a college bro point, fuck yea!! But if he keeps fuckin the chick and the husband retaliates, good luck.
80% chance he's a simp though, that's the beauty of the 80/20 rule right there.
Finally someone that sees the pragmatic side of why certain social mores exist instead of letting their dick/ego (same thing really) do all their thinking.
Crazy has no nationality...shanked, poisoned, piano wire...you find out your "lesbian" wife has been taking dick on the side the last few years and lack of easy access to a gun gonna somehow calm you down?
It's going to give you time to think rationally at the very least, maybe I shouldn't pull out my handgun from under my bed on impulse and shoot this guy and go to jail for the rest of my life. God you americucks are so fucking stupid.
Takes an equal amount of impulse not to stab someone. Contrary to popular belief...the vast majority of americans cant hit a target from greater than 3 meters away. A 10ft seperation isnt going to help you against the guy whose lesbian wife has been getting pounded by your pole. This cuck has been rationalizing a lot of emotional shit for years...and he just found out it was all a lie and hes been wasting his life and money on this? I wouldnt want to be on the same continent as this guy if i was OP. I dont care about moral of banging married chicks...this girl is gonna get dicked by somene...you gotta weigh risk vs reward and make your own decisions. Risk to OP is same whether guns are readily available or not.
if you truly believe this you are beyond retarded
Solid logic bro. You are right. Im a retard and retract my statement
That's why you fuck women who's husbands are down....
You neckbeards have no idea and ya'll have yet to get hit with the cold water bucket of reality. There are SO many simps out there that want a masculine man to come fuck their wives. All you have to do is be in the 20% and it ain't hard bros. I've been messaging a wife for a month after opening her husband and she's begging for it. It's just a question of whether I want to fuck her or not & getting the logistics to work.
This is reality.
EDIT: Downvote all you want, it only proves me right in that there are more neckbeards than actual men out here.
You're filling a fetish roll since you're black. Contextual SMV.
As a black man I realize my SMV is often contextual. But I have no interest ever in my life to bang a woman for the pleasure or entertainment of another man. EVER.
Bullshit. Only if you play by their rules....
And you're throwing the power you have over him overtly in his face. If anything, that adds to my entertainment.
Loving every minute of it too.
Just pointing it out because you're an outlier.
Granted, but men need to start getting into the mindset that we need to take advantage of whatever angles that apply to us in order to advance our sexual strategies. These hoes do it all the time and men need to do the same.
Stay ahead of these bitches like a man is supposed to.
Hey I was in a similar situation. Had an offer to be a bull for a woman with a Cuck BF. She made the offer, but her condition was the dude wanted to watch and I got weirded out.
Any advantages you see to that sort of arrangement?
The wife I'm talking to now wants the husband to watch me fuck her. I couldn't care less. I like to show off personally.
The advantage is no strings sex on demand if you play it right.
Thanks for the perspective. I can see if you like to show off, but that's not my situation. For me, I get enough access to sex that the woman would have to be an 9+ for me to bother, or I'd have to get some other advantage over what I could normally get.
Easy Malik it's toonie Tuesday soon
Shawshank Redemptions just a movie
Reality is stranger than fiction
Often a lot more darker too
Don't stick your dick in crazy.
That could be a lonely dick!
Ed Sheerans next hot song "lonely dick"
Meh, just calls for risk/reward calibration. If a particular woman has way more risk factors than she is worth, just move on to another.
But crazy is fun! Lol (joking here, sort of.)
The more you think about it, it would be fun to poke crazy. Maybe once, just to see.
Been there, done that, stay far away.
No you're not. It is truly fun to watch a trainwreck, upon occasion.
It isnt. U get satisfaction out of it, u probably need self-therapy
This phrase was beyond cliche already in the 90s... like SJWs say, "it's 2018, people". I really don't know how this phrase doesn't trigger every guy who hears it into shoving them and their shit out the door. "Use google maps and look for the closest bar or strip joint. I have a feeling your inner self resides there, go join it."
It means "I want to try fucking other people"
Finding yourself is what you do before kids. You know, that period where you're single and happy about it and exploring the world? You don't find yourself by fucking around with someone when you're married to someone else.
Idk about you but I set strict rules about married women.
I must have missed it in the sidebar but for RedPill, a sub that prides itself on self improvement, picking up women, and healthy smart decision making; why is fucking Married Women praised and accepted?
I am all for picking up women, and if she is getting a divorce it's fair game. But I couldn't justify helping ruin a Family, there are kids in that house, as well as a potentially crazy and very angry Husband (along with a clearly unstable Woman who is sleeping around) who will take his anger out on ME not his (presumably) slut of a wife.
This isn't a praise post, it's a warning post.
Completely agree. I am not interested in victimizing any potential children, or even the husband. I don’t care if he’s a beta. Additionally I don’t want to let these women have their cake and eat it too. They get the beta bucks, while they get to fuck their alpha on the side. No thanks.
I understand the logic that “well if not me, it will be someone else.” I say apply that logic to single women. Ex carousel riders should either behave themselves for their spouses or remain lifelong incels. Married women are on average less attractive than their younger, single couterparts, so avoiding them shouldn’t be that hard. Plenty of fish.
Same reason I'd sell a homeless alcoholic booze. I want the money and he'd go to the next store if he didn't buy it from me
You are not ruining a family, she is. It's either your dick or someone elses dick. Because the point is that she chose someone else over her husband, and that someone else can be anyone. Understood?
I don't. It takes two to cheat, and she made vows to not do so. Enabling that behavior with the mentality of 'well it'd just be someone else' isn't solving any problems other then getting your own dick wet. A divorce, which is likely to happen after infidelity, quite literally ruins a family.
Shifting blame away from yourself (the cheatee) is blue pill logic, a Man owns up to his mistakes and actions.
Since when did TRP turn into a social justice warrior castle?
This is bluepill logic. You say that the cheatee is the family ruiner, but it actually is already ruined. If she won't fuck you, she will fuck someone else, because she wants someone other than her husband to dick her. It's as easy as that.
I was raised by my old man to own up to my actions and mistakes. I think that fucking married women who aren't in the process of leaving their husbands would be a mistake, and not wise for making myself a better man.
You are 100% correct that if it wasn't one guy, she'd just fuck another. But my take away is that the gain of easy pussy doesn't outweigh the moral issues I'd have enabling such infidelity, for me personally.
For some men, I guess you from your replies, don't see any reason to blame themselves; after all she's the woman who is in a marriage it's her fault for putting herself out there and slutting it up while the husband is at work. Couldn't do it myself, but to each their own.
It's accepted because it's everyone's own business what he does. We're just here to observe and factor the reports into our own decision making. Praised? Who knows, it probably is by some but I don't get the impression that it's prevalent.
Personally I don't really care. If the body is tight and the sex is good, I'm game.
I'm a real feminist. Women are entitled to their sexual freedom...Why not benefit?
I don't think that anyone in this subreddit would disagree with your logic on it's face: by virtue of her attitude and motivation, she's going to get filled by someone, so why not you? A woman is fair game, regardless of status, and open to pursuit. She engages at her own discretion, and everyone involved has a good time; beau never becoming the wiser.
It's most likely the inclusion of children as an extension of this equation that is setting off alarms with many of the men here. While most men have no problem being yet another crack in a relationship, contributing to the destruction of a family is a line that many of us would never knowingly cross. Men value family because a stable family increases the likelihood of successful, morally upstanding offspring.
As creators, it is engrained in us to build a sturdy home that can guarantee our lasting legacy; this is done through family. Men care more for the family unit than we are given credit for, and due to our empathy, we can't help extending our feelings to those we relate to - in this case, the unsuspecting husband and father. We don't want to see another man's home torn down, each of us knowing that they aren't easy to build and are devastating once lost. Even in cases like this, we wish our courage, hoping that the experience will open his eyes; that he survives the trial and grows stronger from it. You're seeing that expressed here, and I think it speaks well to the brotherhood of man.
Whatever the outcome is, you're not responsible. It has to be said, however, that the wrath of a husband pales in comparison to the wrath of a father. Be warned, brothers.
Imma remember that line when I'm gaming the next bitch I want to fuck.
Lmao it's good that you dgaf about some things. That's a good trait to have to better yourself.
The guy above me had a good point. You're ruining a family. That genuinely isn't cool man. If she's getting divorced or definitely about to and her guy knows that, then yea, fair game. Other than that, it isn't praise worthy
The bitch is ruining the family. If she wasn't fucking OP, she would fuck someone else. Also someone with morals like that is a pretty terrible parent most likely.
You know what isn't cool? Abandoning your family and then coming back to your husband and kids and telling them you're lesbian because you don't want to fuck the man you agreed to spend the rest of your life with. The father of your kids.
Then running around and fucking other men while your husband takes care of the kids, the home and the family.
That's what's not cool. OP isn't ruining anything. She'll fuck someone after OP ends it. She doesn't care.
Goddamn...Is this the Redpill? Interesting how even on this sub women are treated as victims.
This family was ruined way before I ever entered the picture man.
This is the main point these guys are missing. The cheating is the outcome of the situation, not the catalyst.
What the fuck, this is bad even for Redpilled people. This woman is not only like AWALT, she is psychopathic pr some shit like this.
I dont know if I wouldnt feel bad for the husband and not fuck her anymore (knowing she would find another man to fullfill her needs for a real man).
It's par for the course. A mentor of mine and I travelled around (europe) when I was young and learning everything, he had a woman or two in every town. One day, on way to vacation he got in a head on collision and was permanently crippled in the sense he could still walk and all that but at no speed, etc. His gf was killed in the crash.
The two married chicks he was fucking in his hometown, for the longest time already -- but it wouldn't surprise me if that area was rife with his bastards running around -- no longer had to make excuses to their husbands for their absenses. He registered at some organization for the disabled and they subsequently volunteered there to take care of him, each 2-3x a week, and were getting paid for it (supply/gas/needs reimbursement) by the organization and social accolades for their selfless charity work from their friends and family. He even met their husbands under that pretense and took them out to dinner and whatever, the wives smiling while their men were none the wiser.
One husband had a debilitating stroke 5 years later and his wife permanently dumped him some months later on her kids because it cut into her quality time. She still milked most of the monthly disability money and benefits from that too.
She’s like all women to me.
Psychopathy infers the ability to moralize in the 1st place. While I do agree to the possibility of cluster-b, the hamster has no bounds. It's righteous in it's necessity.
The women is bad, yes. But her husband makes Redpilled people stronger
I'm fairly new here, but how does fucking someone already so desperate for dick make a Redpilled man stronger? This isn't even low-hanging fruit here; it's on the ground, rotting. It might even sicken the poor bastard who decides to take a bite. Imagine if she got pregnant or decided to make a rape accusation?
I think he meant having a competitive edge in the smv on people that kamikaze their prospects
Rape accusation is highly unlikely. Only betas get slapped with that. As far as low hanging fruit, that's subjective, and honestly rotten fruit is how you get alcohol, which kills bacteria.... I'be lost my train of thought.
rape accusation seems highly possible since she has proclaimed the image of a lesbian in front of her whole family ... her legal husband would even gladly take the witness stand to explain a judge how she doesn't even like cock for the past year or so ... so our redpill boy probably raped her ...otherwise there would be no way a "lesbian" would fuck a man ...
she has a nice cover alibi ...he is just another man who can be accused.
Exactly why I would let her go (other than my moral understamding)
You are forgetting the months of catalogued texts our boy should be keeping in his phone.
A response might be that in dragging awalt right to mr afc face it will fill him with the required rage to go through the changes needed to become woke.
The pillow talk I have with this woman is exceptional, and practically a waterfall of RedPill truths.
This is the norm when women are attracted to a man they feel is superior and non judgemental and non needy
I have noticed this in the last few years internalizing Redpill principles. The less fucks I gave about their behavior, the easier it became for them to relate to me...which in turn gave me all kinds of insights supporting Redpill theory.
It's the primary reason I've been lurking and internalizing for so long, there was and continues to be a steady feedback loop between theory and practise.
I have days worth of warning stories by now. But judging from the backlash I got maybe people aren't ready yet.
I think one guy actually wanted to stone me, old Testament style. But that's not my kink.
Had a plate, she swore her and husband were through, third separation, he was now living interstate, she said no chance of reconciliation. So I start banging her on the regular. I always do due diligence on plates as I don’t want the drama of fucking an attached woman, and I fucking hate cheats. PLENTY of single women out there. So here is a breakdown:
firstly she was total trad con, only three previous relationships, never had sex outside of a relationship
really wanted to get pregnant, but 7 years with hubby, still no baby. Was considering in vitro
I subsequently find out hubby now back in the house on weekends, she let him fuck her because “I was ovulating and he is my husband”, cries a lot, I just really want a baby
I tell her I don’t want to see her again, she will not go away. Swears he has moved out again and they are over. She is a total nympho, I have never been with any woman that horny before. She used to wake me up 4-5 times every night sucking my dick and then just climbing on it. She tells me husband has moved out again
Loved to be dominated, hair pulling, slapping, rough sex. Literally could not get enough, I had to say no to lots of her requests for increase in roughness
gets constant messages from hubby asking where she is, turns out I am her new female friend, she even has a female name for me in her phone
Go to her house, photos of her and hubby everywhere, massive white wedding, photo shoot, million dollar house in nice area, hubby does not even look beta in photos, in shape, handsome guy
Tells me that I should get her pregnant, tells me not to worry, husband will never know and she will get him to pay all the bills. I never cum inside her again unless she swallows it
Turns out months later that husband has moved back in all along. She still wants me to see her, go away on holidays and talk to her for 2-3 hours every day, including phone sex so she can masturbate
I tell her I told you I did not want to fuck her anymore as I know she is back with hubby. She begs me to change her mind, I ask what would he do if he found out. She says non-chalantly, “oh he would kill you for sure, maybe me too”
I break it off, for months she still rings and texts. TBH I kind of enjoy the attention and ego boost, she is one of many ex plates/ STRs that still message me. She now forms part of my safety net should I ever want it. AWALT
I've had this. She didn't stalk you, leave notes on your car or Photoshop pictures of you two together? This chick seems tame. Lol.
I'm guessing she's 28-35 as that seems the peak of make a baby a any cost mindset.
Dated a girl long ago. I dumped her and she proceeded to date a girl and told everyone I made her gay.
Two months in, her "girlfriend" got drunk and cheated on her... with a man.
They broke up and my ex came crawling back. When we broke up for the second time, I gamed the ex of my ex as "payback." This "lesbian" (the ex gf of my ex) decided the perfect way to get back at our mutual ex was to fuck.
Moral of the story? Any lesbian is straight for the right man. Lesbianism is normally a smoke screen to deflect betas.
ATM’s? New guy here, couldn’t find it in the glossary.
Its a place where you take money from your account. The things on the wall in a street.
Lol. Automated teller machine.
He literally means automatic teller machine.
A literal ATM. A money dispenser they can kick and then gtfo to do their thing.
Ass to Mouth
Finding a plate like that is a real gem.
Cash machine, in case you’re British.
Hole in the wall, in case you're British and old.
On TRP, I'm sure that could be interpreted a different way.
You are thinking of TRP-Alt.
I've fucked enough lesbians to be skeptical of their existence at all.
Even “butch” ones?
I know lipstick lesbians tend to be more sexually fluid but you never really hear anecdotes of the “masculine” types.
I know a couple. I guess I wasn't interested enough to try and find out. They do seem to respond to some of the same cues, though. AWALT, even ALALT.
She’s a fucking psycho, you tool. This is not an example of cultural resolution, it’s an example of a psychopathic bitch abusing her husband and children
Yea this is some murder stuff. Be careful. I would stop messing with that woman. You both can end up dead!!! Women are scandalous man. If you trust them, may God bless your soul!!!
My only issue with this post is that you're taking her words seriously. She SAID she hasn't had sex with her husband in a year. She SAID her husband is a beta and all of that.
I thought one of the main rules is to not take what women say seriously. She is a cheating lying whore. You really think she is going to cheat on her husband and not mention any of her flaws?
No of course she's going to blame the husband. For all you know, the husband could be a very good dude who is occupied going to work at his high earning job and taking care of the kids to pay attention to this slut. They could have had sex a week ago and her tingles just wants someone else.
How many people on here was married and got cheated on and the women blamed them?
Watch their actions, not their words. And this lady's actions is that she's a cheating whore.
This is what came to mind. She is saving her ego and OPs. If she said she was still fucking both of them, she would have to admit how much of a whore she is internally and face someone else’s judgement.
Sounds like some form of ASD.
For all he knows her ‘Beta husband ‘ could be banging interns or have his own plates. We tend to think she is telling the full truth by painting a picture of a supplicating Beta. Truth is hubby may well know everything and doesn’t care because he gets fabulous pussy himself on the side.
I agree. His whole field report is based on what she said. Foolish
For a guy to have a high salary....be seemingly relaxed about her finding herself and to have snagged her in the first place means he’s probably tired of her and is out having fun himself. He doesn’t care if she sleeps around because he already does. Remember what Billy Bob said about Angelina....
What did he say about Angelina?
That it was like having sex with the couch after a while.
so you're moaning about how women cheat on their husbands, yet you are the one fucking them?
It's the equivalent of the Church preaching messages of peace while going on the crusades.
You can justify it... with extensive rationalization.
You should tell her husband what a slimy scumbag whore she is and help him actually be able to keep his house and his kids and make HER pay child support and alimony.
The husband would blame OP and forgive his wife for being taken advantage of. He might cause trouble in some way, business, legal, whatever. There's literally no advantage to OP to talking to the husband.
On top of that it's not OP's relationship to talk to him about. What they do is their business. OP is just enjoying his time with her.
I dunno about you, but perpetual lying is probably bad for everyone . Be a real man and stand up for justice like a Captain America would! Instead of jumping from one poor cucked man's bedroom to the next, leave a note with pictures of this whores activities in his mailbox or something. It's us as against them.
It's time for men to stand up to these greasy whores that are ruining the society. Be a fuckin hero for once!
Sadly between one sided laws and beta males tendency to give women the benefit of the doubt the men involved in the scenario are likely to come off worse for wear.
It's NOT his place to say something. If you chose to do that with a woman and her husband you can. but it's not anyone's place to say something to the husband just because she's cheating. That's on her and her husband.
edit: Also: "Be a real man" is feminist shaming tactics. Don't bring that to this sub. Sexual strategy is amoral.
She is sick. This makes me sick.
There seems to be a divide between the amoral red pill dudes and the guys trying to use red pill knowledge for the greater good. Unfortunately, the guys that have no problem fucking some chump's wife have a better understanding of the downward trajectory of society and are better equipped to exploit it.
I would run away from that as fast as possible.
Plot twist, she doesn't know but the husband found out a sweet colleague at work and discovered, two years before, that he's actually gay.
Damn, Hollywood shoud hire me. :)
Sounds like a shitty mother to just give her kids up to "go find herself", then change her mind and come back into their lives.
Maybe the husband is happy fucking his secretary and just don't want to get divorce raped. I've been in this situation before and I didn't wanted to divorce because of the kids. My parents divorced and I didn't wanted to make my kids feel the way I did (hell, basically). I endured incredibly things for them, but you can only do so much to keep a relationship with a crazy women. Even then it never went as bad, we still had sex once a week.
Not sure if it is the “flair” in the writing style or what, but many stories like this sound very made up.
They read like a scene from a movie.
Everything is a little too pat. The details too perfect.
They sound like they are media clichés because they are. The modern woman has been shown this example so many times in their lives within pop-culture, along with "humanized" excuses for this behavior that the impact it has on others has been reduced to dust in the wind. She lacks the strength of character to strike out on her own when she's already decided the relationship is dead and she is perfectly willing to exploit her husband for financial support until it's convenient for her to leave. Meanwhile the shameless cunt will eat her cake and have it too.
Yeah, this one sounds extra bogus.
I agree. Imagine the place in life you would have to be to make up a story like this so internet people will think you're a badass. The gullibility is frightening in these comments.
I think fucking this woman is blue pill behavior. Why? She has all the power and control in the situation. She’s not the only one being plated, I guarantee she’s plating you. By fucking her, you are empowering her AWALT behavior, and perpetuating it, all for a nut. Sure, she’ll get it somewhere else, if not from you, but is it really cool to fuck a married woman? I wouldn’t want to have to look myself in the mirror every day if I was fucking her. Yeah, her husband is obviously blue pill, but he’s probably a decent guy. And the kids involved, that’s just icing on the cake. I’m all about some TRP principles, but I think fucking this woman is pretty weak. True alpha behavior would be to tell her to go back to her husband because she doesn’t deserve to ride my dick. There are too many women out there that aren’t THIS morally bankrupt that you could be plating. All you are doing is stooping to her level.
It's not blue pill at all. It's just a bit dangerous.
I disagree
He's getting nympho sex at the drop of a phone call.
What more do you want
A little more substance in my life than getting married nympho sex at the drop of a phone call. If that’s what you’re about, have at it.
Agreed so then it would appear under this observation that you can't have it both ways in this case.
I honestly don't see the problem with it. You speak as if I owe these people something.
Of course I'm not the only guy she's fucking, I would never expect that to be a thing with any woman. But I don't owe her pussy of a husband anything. Why would I deny myself a good fuck?
True alpa behavior is to deny sex over some ill conceived moral notions? Fuck that man. Great way to cuck yourself.
I don’t think you owe them anything, but I do think you owe yourself more. I can’t speak for you, but if it were me, I would find a woman with far less bullshit surrounding her, that would be just as good of a fuck. She’s definitely not a quality plate. Ill conceived morality? I don’t think so, just good common sense. I think it’s more alpha to realize you deserve better than this type of woman, no matter how hot, or how good she is in bed. I would feel like a cuck for fucking her, because I’d be lowering my standards just for a piece of ass. Compromising my belief system just to get laid is the most cuck thing I could ever do, but those are MY beliefs. If your standards are already that low, then by all means.
Your belief system is holding you back buddy. Keep following those imaginary rules you set for yourself and you'll never fuck above average pussy.
But at least you have standards man.
Nietzsche called it slave morality. These cuckolds are simply projecting themselves in the role of the beta husband.
It's not his fault she is cheating on her husband. That's between her and her husband. He's just enjoying his time with her. Until it ends.
It's not beta to enjoy fucking a woman. It's not beta to enjoy fucking a woman who is married. It's simply how OP choses to live his life.
So many moralizing guys here on this thread.
u/rian_stone merps should definitely read this
Cross post it, spell out the lesson for the noobs
OP ... how can you find it enjoyable to spend time with such scum ?? I understand probably some good/great sex ... but man ..don't you feel annoyed to be in the presence of such a low life/low moral standard person ??
I mean i probably wouldn't be able to maintain an erection with this plate ...knowing all the things you know about her ...
Trust me buddy...She'd get you ready.
And yet day in and day out there are still a plethora of dumb stupid fuckers out there who get married. I have a hard time understanding that level of FAIL!
The men are not raising the girls. The woman will always raise the children unless you are a firm presence. They have bonded with her wholly for their entire childhood(unless she neglected them, a whole other mess). Boys in their teen years will seek the man's guidance in becoming a man. While girls are asking for real life advice from dad their social interaction knowledge comes from mom.
Society is feminine due to shitty single moms raising beta cucks and shitty daughters who then perpetuate the shitty woman problem. A single generation is all it takes to stop the cycle. Choose wisely whom you give your seed to. A plate is a terrible choice as she has proven by simply accepting a plate role that she will be a poor mother, certainly not a great one.
To be frank, if theres children involved and the cunts not divorced, i wouldn't enjoy stickin my dick in it. If i was in a situation like this and was Beta Billy, Id grow a pair of balls, kick her out and prolly beat the shit outta you. Then re-evaluate mylife, learn about motherfuckin redpill and fuck women.
Not that I believe this story because it’s written like a teenager’s erotic fiction but you shouldn’t fuck another man’s wife you scumbag.
Real shit. Pure fucked up logic as well such as "If I don't someone else will". Well guess what?
If you don't do everything someone else will. Why not go to murder some kids in Syria, because if you don't ISIS will anyway.
Because I don't want to murder kids in Syria. It's not fun.
I just want to fuck hot women. That's fun.
Why not man? She's her own person and she's down to bang. If I don't benefit somebody else will.
Exactly. Fuck these other neckbeards with their moral bullshit. Hoes gonna hoe & Modern-day marriage don't mean shit. I'd fuck that bitch too.
Lol she shouldn't fuck other guys. You sound like a pussy.
Anger phase; this will return you to it.
And then there's always this...
Wtaf?? WHat a fucking bitch!!
There’s plenty of great single women out there. Shame on you. Karma will come back around someday.
That is why people like you and her would get put to death according to the Bible and lashed according to the Quran. Both of you are disgusting. I still agree that her husband is a pathetic beta though.
It's a good thing those works of fiction mean shit today.
Props to you, I don't think I'd be able to contain myself after she would tell me that story lol
That is actually hilarious. I was feeling down because I still have a long way to go, but that made me feel a whole lot better about myself in comparison.
You think he's really gone a year or just keeping his plates on the side as well?
So legitimate question, not that I’ve experienced this before, but what if a wife wants to “find herself” but as a practicing RP member this still manages to come up, how do you handle the situation?
Obviously if it occurs there are other issues at hand, but I’m curious how it should be handled.
Tell her to go ahead & find herself, but you won't be here when she gets back.
The relationship is likely over at that point. If you accept it, she can't respect you. If you deny it she'll resent you (possibly do it secretly). If you tell her to fuck off, it's over. If you say "finally" and start fucking other women it's over.
When you tell her to fuck off, she might beg you to take her back. However if you do, you're back to square 1. Once a woman seriously suggests this, things have gone pretty far in the wrong direction. Would running dread work? Maybe. Unlikely.
This doesn't surprise me at all. One of the married women I was fucking told me how she hasn't had sex with her husband in 6 months. They've been married for 3 years now, but this bitch still fucks around on Tinder. Apparently she doesn't find her husband physically attractive anymore. Husband is a typical Billy beta, out of shape and naïve. Asked her why she doesn't divorce him and move on (no kids), she said she doesn't want her family's reputation to be ruined. That's India for you, folks.
Why the fuck did i read this before dinner. Billy betta made my fucking stomach churn dude.
Agree with the other comment saying it's stupid on your part to fuck with a married woman. He might be beta but as we know from the news beta guys go crazy and shoot people all the time.
Let's find that dude and give him an intervention.
Of course that would break one of your plates, sooo...let us know when you're done with the two timing whore.
Fuck man what a bummer.
There is the prophecy of the cum and joke mines on Mars. We man are doomed, unless...
Major truth bombs confirmed in the field. That's the crazy part about the Red Pill, once you see it, you can never unsee it and you see the truths coming to light all the time. I once had a girl give me the "I'm a lesbian" line: https://alphajedi.com/2017/08/17/the-lesbian/
This thread is mostly reportable concern trolling.
This has me thinking....there are cucks, and then there are cucks. It's one thing to want to watch your wife get railed out by a stud. It's another thing to understand that occasionally, she gets railed out by a stud and it's really not your business. I'm guessing most of the cucks in the first category have been driven there by desperation to hold onto their wives. Better to just understand, women have needs that Betas can't fulfill.
I could not imagine being so cucked as her husband; that mindset is literally foreign and unthinkable for me. Something is seriously wrong with these men, I don't know if it's BPA or phytoestrogens but something is seriously wrong with that THOT's husband.
Dude I know it's a blast to fuck psychos. I still remember the dual feelings of a rock hard erection and sheer terror that I got when a crazy/hot 18 year old I stopped fucking texted me "It's cute that you think this is over." But you are playing with fire. This shit is kind of scary TBH.
My stepmom is like this. She's raising my little sister to treat men like shit and there's nothing I can do about it.
I’m wonder how much time will it take for the rest of the world to catch up to such ridiculousness.
Unless America eat itself out socially.
I guess I'm still too Blue because that bitch made me what to throw up. I get it Awalt but seriously I that was hard to read. I would fuck her a few more times then drop her like a hot potato and then send the pictures to her husband because fuck her. OP how did u met Ms Awalt
if this is true, find a reasonably subversive way to tell the dude when things taper down. Have some empathy for another man.
Imagine what you could be doing with your life. Really think about it. Please don't post validation seeking bullshit like this.
This story sounds at least partially fabricated. No woman is going to tell anybody that she is a lesbian if she is straight or even bi.
Next time you're going to compose erotica I suggest you set that time aside to do something more productive. Or at least make it more convincing.
It happened to me, and I must say you are the one being naive. It's become the new and improved "I want to see other people" because it makes the idea of any sort of reconciliation impossible.
OP may be fishing for points here, but you can't assume that no straight or bi woman wouldn't tell their boyfriend/husband that they are lesbians as an excuse to leave a relationship, especially in today's climate. It's a way out that simultaneously demands sympathy and understanding from your victim and it shields you from societal backlash since coming out under any circumstances is universally celebrated today, regardless of context. Ironically, it is one of the most patronizing things a woman can do to a man.
Think of it a get out of jail free card. This is the same move Kevin Spacey used when he admitted to his sexual assault allegation, then immediately deflected by coming out as a gay man. It was so effective I've personally started to refer to it as The Kevin Spacey Maneuver.
"No woman is going to tell anybody that she is a lesbian if she is straight or even bi."
You obviously have a rather limited experience of women, dude.
This is erotica? Damn.
Get some experience with women first before you judge other people.
Gaslighting and manipulation. Ever see Swordfish with John Travolta?