One Skill That Will Drastically Improve Your Life

le_wolfe · 2018-08-22T18:12:16+00:00

Discipline is the cornerstone of self-improvement and, to an extent, masculinity itself.

Discipline teaches yourself to operate on command.

Kn1ght0 · 2018-08-22T18:54:38+00:00

Yes, Yes and yes. Jocko Willink has A book called "discipline equals freedom" Great little book which covers mindsets, attitudes, exercise, nutrition and A whole other host of quality information. His podcast is incredible too

Robster25 · 2018-08-22T18:24:29+00:00

Amen, brother. I have a flatmate whom I introduced to the redpill, self-improvement and stuff in the hope, that he will change his life... Now he has read lots of self-improvement books, runs around and telling people how he is into self-improvement and how "alpha" he is, but he doesn't take action. Instead he wastes his life watching tv and playing videogames and fucking his trash-tier girlfriend which he tells himself is hot (truth is he is low-value and she is low-value, that's why he can't pull high-value girls). It is extremely frustrating to see him waste his life, but everyone has to make his/her own choices.

rKKKselected · 2018-08-22T17:48:37+00:00

the need for constant "motivation," endless videos of famous black guys tellin you that your big break is just around the corner if you believe in yourself, the innumerable modern "self-help" books, courses, lectures, conferences, are all symptoms of a society that's long been dead inside, collapsed on the outside and punishes anyone who sees it for what it is—a society well into the late stages of decay, not progress

get out of the modern motivational hamster wheel, meditate, know yourself, become what you are and self-discipline will be a natural result

omega_fat · 2018-08-22T17:24:12+00:00

Having a system is above everything else. Success is setting up a system, then having discipline to stick to it.

expansion101 · 2018-08-22T18:45:34+00:00

You know, come to think of it, I haven't even hit that plateau. Thanks for the wake up call.

I have made gains, but I can see that this battle of discipline versus laziness will hit me when those gains begin to stagnate. This post will only help me to push through it, knowing that not only do I need to do so to make more gains on my body, but in my mind as well.

Schimmen · 2018-08-22T21:29:57+00:00

Motivation is what gets you started.

Discipline is what keeps you going.

-some smart ass

GayLubeOil · 2018-08-22T19:18:10+00:00

Allright bro let me jump in here and fix this conundrum, because you've accidentally stepped into a deep philosophical issue. As it stands all you've done here is replace the word motivation with the word discipline. Thats not gunna work. Like your posts. Don't wanna step on ur dick bro. But let's be honest.

This giant shitfuck of demotivation started during the enlightenment when people replaced God and Tradition with technology and reason, that's Nietzsche thesis.

So instead of being Belief driven people become Method driven. People have a tendency to become the Method they employ, that's Marx's thesis. Basically we have a society of tools. So if we examine your post you have a method however you don't have a real reason to employ the method.

Tons of tools no reason to use them. Nihlism That's society and the Red Pill as a whole.

The only solution to nihlism is post nihlism, that can take the foum of religious fundamentalism, racial tribalism, or a kind of metaphysics. Now you know why post nihlism is so dangerous.

That's why Nazis don't have motivation issues, the Taliban doesn't have motivation issues and Indian Yoga gurus don't have that problem either. The modern west is antithetical to all that which is why it's in a death spiral of faggotry.

The solution is always in the place people are afraid to look aka the Red Pill.

InscrutablePUA · 2018-08-23T01:45:35+00:00

While I agree with the premise that discipline is absolutely needed for success in life, I would also add that the most successful men do more than just slog through everything, day after day. They also prioritize the most important activities, and make it as EASY as possible to consistently do those activities.

What does this really mean?

1) It means making tradeoffs. You cannot get jacked, ready 50 books a month, crush it at work, fuck 100 girls, etc. etc. all at the same time. Getting jacked by itself requires a regular schedule, reduction in alcohol and late nights (especially for guys > 28), proper nutrition, and sleep. It's tough to come to that realization but absolutely important.

2) This one comes from Scott Adams - you need to have an easily repeatable system that works. If you're having trouble getting to the gym regularly - ask yourself what is really stopping you? Is it because your gym is 50 miles away? Is it because the only time you can work out is in the morning but you play video games all night and can't wake up early? Are you pushing yourself too hard in the gym and burning out or overreaching? All of these can be solved. Make getting to the gym as easy as possible. Have your back packed with clothes, protein, etc. the night before. Sleep at the right time. Find a closer gym, or make your own home gym. Clean up your nutrition for more energy. Have a pre workout snack to get in the mood.

Discipline is needed for those times when you really don't feel like doing something, but if important activities are always a huge mental struggle, it will never happen consistently. Think easy, not hard.

iBchyllen247365 · 2018-08-23T03:45:43+00:00

As a couple people said here, the most important part is the WHY.

As long as you have a deep reason to do what you do, you will always look forward to the tough shit you gotta do because you know WHY you’re doing it.

The WHY lasts longer than any physical or emotional pain, or boredom, or stress, or even you.

For me, I have the choice between being a useless piece of shit who hates himself and lives everyday knowing he’s wasting his potential OR I can be useful and help myself and other people live meaningful lives. Regardless of the subjectivity of it all. I know life is meaningless... at the same time it is not. It is up to you to give it meaning.

So I give it meaning through struggle and constant self-improvement because it’s the only thing that feels right. To indulge in Mountain Dew and Doritos while I play World of Warcraft just doesn’t feel right. To sit on the couch and watch TV and eat ice cream just doesn’t feel right.

I don’t know how most people live with themselves. I don’t have that “emotional blocking” ability. I would have killed myself by now if I didn’t decide to turn my life around.

So, in a way, it’s not even a choice. Self improvement is the only thing I could possibly do. The other option is death. Even if it isn’t physical, to submit to life = death.

So I just do it because it makes sense to me. I always look forward to the gym, or work, or another rep, or a nervous phone call, or a meeting where my hands are sweating balls.

Even if I don’t wanna do it. People think that winners are brave and have some sort of anti-fear thing. Winners feel more fear than the next 10 “average” people. But they act even if their heart is racing or they’re unsure, etc.

My WHY is that I HAVE to do it. It’s this or death for me... if not physically then mentally/emotionally. I refuse to live my life in a way that disrespects myself and others. So I go hard for me. And others.

I dunno. That’s what I think though. If anyone gains something from this comment then it was worth typing.

openWh1te · 2018-08-22T19:06:23+00:00

"A horse that has raced, a dog that has tracked, a bee that has made honey [...] - none of these knows what they have done, but they pass on to the next action [...]. So you ought to be one of those who, in a sense, are unconscious of the good they do." - M. Aurelius #Motivation #Discipline

JaYogi · 2018-08-22T19:15:28+00:00

I take cold showers, which force myself to do something I don’t want too. When I feel unmotivated I tell myself why I’m working out or why I’m staying up to study.

iknowthewhey · 2018-08-22T18:16:30+00:00

Discipline is the secret to success. Motivation is fleeting and will never push you to your goals. Habits are the way to build discipline. Getting up 2 hours before work then meditating and hitting them gym everyday. That is how you build discipline. Keeping your house clean and fridge full of healthy food everyday. Anyone looking for motivation doesn't have the discipline to accomplish the mission.

TheLanternFlame · 2018-08-23T01:48:36+00:00

Told this kind of thing to my friends some months ago and I was ganged up talk shit by them. Guess what, they're fucking depressed as hell for months now, and I'm constantly improving cuz idgaf about seeking motivation, just work on it. Motivation=fantasy, just do it=action. Guess which is much better.

DeontologicalSanders · 2018-08-22T19:04:33+00:00

Honestly if you've been going to the gym for 8 months and you don't look forward to it most of the time, you're doing something very wrong.

DaBrokenMeta · 2018-08-22T23:19:29+00:00

On the brink of failing med school after crushing my mind over women and petty things at the start of my medical career 6 months ago.

Stopped daily reading of the red pill after i broke thru the first mental wall and had reached a point where reciting theory was trivial madness ad nauseam.

Attempted multiple times to restart my life with my new found beliefs and list of programming. Only to fail over and over unable to sustain for longer than several weeks on end.

My missing cofactor. DISCIPLINE

I pray for us all, that we may all fine our paths to this vital source of power

Jesuissimpledesprit · 2018-08-23T07:20:11+00:00

I Main a disc priest does that count?

[deleted] · 2018-08-22T19:47:48+00:00

Thanks. I will take this to meditation practice. I meditated 4 hours the other day and then I haven't been able to do any. So, I will try saying to myself I just have to sit on the mat for 10 minutes and once that 10 minutes is done I can go or stay.

MuchFIERCE · 2018-08-22T20:23:54+00:00

I have awesome discipline with the weights, managing finances, meal prep, making videos for my channel, but i cant seem to transfer that to my academics. Any advice?

InvictusDO · 2018-08-22T20:31:42+00:00

Don't seek motivation. Seek discipline. There was a great essay on it that I should find again

StimulusPackageOne · 2018-08-22T20:42:23+00:00

Technique, systems, lifting, game and all that is great, but without ultimate discipline, shit doesn't last. Great Post.

magx01 · 2018-08-22T21:16:49+00:00

I'll be honest, I'm terribly undisciplined which has fucked me up in some aspects of life.
Would appreciate any tips or motivational content that can help

AHmedm96 · 2018-08-22T22:58:21+00:00

proplem with that kind of posts and on the other exteme the tedx crap is they don't focus on indviduality of every human and just jump steps and put alot of assumptions about the target audience and life and uprising you can't assume every human will reach it same way. Also, mental health is also either totally ignored or blown out of proportion if you look at informational videos about depression and you have actually went to therapist before you realize how vague those are and put you in the victim state.

jNSKkK · 2018-08-23T03:33:29+00:00

Great post. You're right about the gym: even when your brain tells you not to go, once you get there and perform that first rep of your first set, you know it was the right decision to ignore your past self.

Kidterrific · 2018-08-23T04:06:37+00:00

Found this once and saved it. It seems relevant.

https://i.imgur.com/b1cawJt.jpg

NormalAndy · 2018-08-23T07:45:15+00:00

I find that motivation is often external. Discipline comes from within.

To that end I would say that my best lagging indicators are meditation and the old 'nofap' chestnut.

These two activities are the ones you practice when you are truly alone and can have nobody around you to validate or criticise what you are doing- it's all down to you and nobody else. OK, you can go to a meditation class but sitting down once a day takes real discipline- despite the fact that you need absolutely nothing to be able to do it- no props no nothing. There are also no arguments about the benefits. There is no excuse.

Same with not hammering your cock. Nobody except you is ever going to know whether you can do it or not. It makes no difference at all to anyone else. But if you can do it then you are proving to yourself how long you can last without giving in to bad habits. Once again, no excuses, just discipline

So if you want a good measure of self discipline, it's right there in your hand... or not. Er... umm

lfc_ak · 2018-08-23T08:02:46+00:00

I just printed this and put it on my wall.

SPREAD_THE_LOVE_7791 · 2018-08-23T13:13:39+00:00

The God is back! Long live the posts of Tren God! Keep 'em comin' buddy!

Rian_Stone · 2018-08-22T19:57:11+00:00

Ajit is the most disciplined guy ever. works 20 hours a day, great father, very loyal husband.

And his nagging wife grinds him into the ground with her demands. Should he just get more discipline?

p_and_q · 2018-08-22T19:20:59+00:00

This makes no sense. People learn discipline from motivation. I have disciplined myself to regularly go to the gym, but I was only able to, and continue to because I'm still motivated to keep getting stronger. But if I no longer had that motivation, then I wouldn't keep going. Likewise, someone may have the discipline to move a bucket of sand one grain at a time, but without the proper motivation, why would they?

If I think of myself as a combustion engine, discipline would be the gasoline, and motivation would be the spark plug. The spark alone won't keep me going, but the gasoline won't burn without it.

RedPilledRoaster · 2018-08-22T19:56:35+00:00

People want to feel. Not to actually do.

Motivation is feeling. Discipline is doing.

[deleted] · 2018-08-22T22:42:28+00:00

Jocko Podcast
Discipline equals Freedom: Field Manual
Psychological Warfare - Jocko Willink

U-94 · 2018-08-22T23:00:44+00:00

Security in strength. Order through obedience. Victory by discipline.

apost54 · 2018-08-23T00:58:36+00:00

I have no motivation to improve myself...

BuddhistSC · 2018-08-23T01:11:46+00:00

I like to think of every difficulty (getting out of bed, getting started on a new project, etc), as an opportunity to metaphorically lift that weight, and do a "rep for the mind".

In other words, it's not merely that you take the action you wanted to take which is good. It's the fact that the action was difficult, and you did it anyway, that builds mental strength. Without that difficulty, you'd never get a chance to grow.

So next time you think "I don't feel like doing this", remember, that's your opportunity. That inhibition is the scarce resource which you should reap for benefits.

Redagogue · 2018-08-23T01:56:21+00:00

I like neither motivation nor discipline. Motivation goes away too easily. Discipline sets you against yourself and causes an unneeded adversary in your own mind. I prefer diligence.

Diligence is mentally returning to a task when you get distracted without self reproach. It is enjoying the process and arriving at a goal as opposed to hating the process and potentially falling off the wagon. Diligence is going for an extra rep because that is what you need to improve over yesterday, but not hating yourself for failing. Diligence is never giving up, never falling off, and never allowing failure to affect your perception of yourself.

I learned this in meditation. If you discipline yourself to only follow your breath, you will never actually meditate. The mind loves distraction and it always wants what makes you happy. So, if you are frustrated, get mad when you catch yourself being distracted, lock your focus too tightly and uncomfortably, your mind will only become more unruly. You will rationalize how you are a failure, or that this isn't working, or that you can try again another day. Discipline is insidious in forcing you to always associate something with forcing yourself to do it, as opposed to learning to appreciate it. Once you actually like the struggle of self improvement, or going for that rep, or tracking your calories meticulously, you will never need to force yourself to do anything. You will tell yourself that this is a good thing, diligently follow your plan, and the mind will come to learn that it is good.

Discipline has a place in the beginning, but if you never become diligent and appreciative, then your finite ability to force yourself to do unpleasant things will forever be trapped by that one goal. How else could the wildly successful people in the world do so much more than Average Joe?

Satou4 · 2018-08-23T02:20:43+00:00

Falling off track is such a bitch. Every day off track saps energy.

The first day back feels great. Maybe I'm chasing this feeling? Then I need to learn how to suppress the good feeling I get when I get back on track. If I could do that, then I wouldn't be addicted to "getting back on track," and maybe I wouldn't want to get off track in the first place.

TuhTodayJr · 2018-08-23T02:21:09+00:00

The last part of your post hit me. I’ve been on my shit so many times on and off and I always question and give up on everything that I had going on and all the good habits because I always felt deep inside like nothing has changed.

It’s not about the short term success or short term good feelings it’s about the long term growth and that only comes from not giving in and not giving up. Thanks for the post!

the99percent1 · 2018-08-23T04:48:29+00:00

Discipline and delayed gratification are so so important to you and your self improvement.

Even when you are working out. Completed 12 reps and the feeling of accomplishment is taking over? Just telling yourself, Fuck you.. do 3 more.

That right there is how you take delayed gratification and self discipline to improve even faster.

TheStoicCrane · 2018-08-23T07:11:20+00:00

I'd argue that a healthy perspective in relation to reality is more valuable than discipline. With perspective there's no behavioral coercion because the consequences for doing or abstaining from an action are self-evident.

If an action brings value do it, if it doesn't abstain from it. Discipline is the override button for humans conditioned to be as robots. Rote and thoughtless.

MarvelousWhale · 2018-08-23T08:00:56+00:00

I'd always had a hard time grasping what discipline really meant, I know it means focused and directed but like the vague terms "success" and "happiness" what does it mean REALLY?

I found a cheesy quote that perfectly sums it up, "Discipline is just choosing between what you want NOW and what you want MOST."

lifeisweirdasfuck · 2018-08-23T08:03:01+00:00

Discipline is simply about delaying gratification and doing something that will bring it in the long term, rather than in the short term.

[deleted] · 2018-08-23T08:05:07+00:00

As guy who has spent his life dealing with mental health issues, I had learn the hard way time and time again to stop seeking or banking on motivation and instead focus on discipline. I still seek some motivation in the form of life goals, etc. but its secondary to establishing discipline.

mindcoreable · 2018-08-23T10:07:55+00:00

DISCLAIMER: IMHO of rAFC

As for me, this post is way too radical, though it's purpose may be for shocking people to rise from one’s slumbers and start doing something good immediately.

Personally I find this great for a starter, but not so effective for a continuous discipline practice.

The things are:

Keeping discipline is not always so cock and balls torture, as OP describes.
Discipline and motivation are interconnected in the context - for you to practice discipline you should have a motive to do that.

Personally, I try to think out what positive changes discipline could make except the general outcome of the process that you are disciplined to perform.

My thing is - more discipline means more power-over-self. Quite a good thing, I guess.

Ofc, motivation is only keeping you in pace when you are expecting positive from the process. And no process can lead to only positive emotion/ outcome, that's natural - so you need discipline.

But what is the root cause (the motive, if you will) for you to practice discipline?

Think about it.

[deleted] · 2018-08-23T10:23:28+00:00

So many people (myself included) read so much info on here that we nod our heads and promise ourselves within we will make good changes and we simply don’t.

I love this post because it goes back to the basic core idea that this is truly where it starts and where one must lay the ground work mentally in order to start the fire within.

Good post

RPmatrix · 2018-08-23T10:58:44+00:00

you need to be able to make yourself attainable goals that you adhere to

the biggest mistake is to go too hard too soon

the moral of one story I wish I had learned earlier in my life is that Slow and steady is how you 'win' this race of Life. After all, what's the hurry?

bot256 · 2018-08-23T11:28:38+00:00

I have been thinking about this same stuff for years and am glad to see that I am not the only one. Motivation isn't actually a big thing. It's something that comes and goes - it is controlled by your emotions and even though we are men, we still get mood swings. Today you feel pumped but in an hour you feel like not doing shit for some stupid reason. However, to build discipline, what I have found for myself, it's easier when you build habits. One of the simplest examples is waking up early. The first day, your motivation might get you up. The week after, you'd need will and discipline to get up early. But stick with it for a month and all of a sudden you don't need an alarm - you just wake up cause that's your habit now. Sometimes you might even get to sleep no more than 5 hrs but the time comes when you usually get up and initially you are like "fuck that, I haven't slept enough" but a minute later the habit kicks in and takes control over your body and you get up. Habit and discipline are, in my opinion, like the two sides of a coin (or any other similar metaphor, you get the point).

redpillcad · 2018-08-23T13:03:59+00:00

Focussing on the process and not the outcome is key to any achievement that has a long fuse

physique, career, and mastery of hobbies come to mind

Nomoturtle · 2018-08-23T17:34:20+00:00

I've always looked down on people teaching and enforcing discipline. I never saw the purpose in routine or discipline being important.

However I think this is right. Motivation IS fleeting. It's unreliable. I've found that will alone is poor and too malleable, even by your very own mind, to rely on. Motivation only provides fleeting support in my experience. You sir, have changed my point of view on a foundational premise I'd previously not given much thought to and simply assumed to be insignificant, and as a result will certainly impact my views on other things. This is the fastest that a foreign argument has been able to change my mind. You didn't even do an exceptional job, you just happened to resonate with what I held to be true.

I'll trust this principle. it I'll refer to it during hard times. I'll even help perpetuate it through others when appropriate. Now I just need to live by the belief. I'm not sure how much the realisation will affect my situation. Despite this, I'm doubtful things will change, but I guess I'll find out.

Thank you

mindset_warrior · 2018-08-23T18:00:05+00:00

True freedom is impossible without a mind made free with discipline.

[deleted] · 2018-08-24T16:16:57+00:00

Hey great post but the reason why your boys didn’t make it is because you pushed TRP on them. You talked about fight club and expected them to give a shit about their lives as much as you do yours. Your intentions are honest and genuine. I can’t say I haven’t tried myself but the reality is we can lead a horse to water but we can’t make it drink.

RedwallAllratuRatbar · 2018-08-22T18:15:30+00:00

Survivor bias

Energetic person channels his energy into something productive and gets rewards - hur durr I'm so disciplined

Zech4riah · 2018-08-23T11:02:18+00:00

I wouldn't say that discipline is a skill. It's more comparable to a muscle. You can train it and make it stronger but it isn't a skill.

Barthaneous · 2018-08-23T11:09:53+00:00

Know the stock market ins and outs . This way my investing would be amazing. (I don't invest because I know nothing)

Welendas · 2018-08-23T14:20:53+00:00

Repost? I feel like I already read this

Dunc0ne · 2018-08-24T13:07:18+00:00

Your mind cannot tell the difference between actions that change the outside circumstances of your everyday life and symbolic acts. Whether I ask a girl out and she rejects me, or I orchestrate a situation where I enter in to a long-term relationship, I am affirming that I have better frame than the girl I am approaching. I don't need to gym for a few hours a day, or sleep with someone everyday to affirm my commitment to myself, a run, making my bed in the morning, approaching(whether I am rejected or not) a girl, all of these things(symbolically) reflect my commitment to myself and this reflects itself in my demeanour.

seemsonormal1979 · 2018-08-24T20:39:42+00:00

Things a motivational speaker might say.

WoodWizzy87 · 2018-08-28T18:42:36+00:00

You haven’t wanted to go to the gym for 8 months? Obviously you hate lifting....

You should enjoy it by now, that sweaty endorphin rush should be an addiction by now

c4u1 · 2018-08-23T00:55:48+00:00

Great and simple way to train this kind of internal discipline is to stop listening to music at the gym.

"Butbutbut I can't lift my best unless I have headphones on with my shitty EDM rap blaring!!"

Bullshit. The music is just an external motivator that doesn't magically make you stronger. Your muscles do not change because the right song is playing. Man up and pull that power out from within.

Title	One Skill That Will Drastically Improve Your Life
Author	TrenGod37
Upvotes	1175
Comments	162
Date	22 August 2018 05:09 PM UTC (2 years ago)
Subreddit	TheRedPill
Link	https://theredarchive.com/post/52024
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