According to FemaleDatingStrategy, women have inherent value, men don't.

Elite_Gamer_126 · 2019-12-07T22:26:15+00:00

Other highlights include:

If a man wants to see your phone, dump him.

If he is reluctant to let you see his phone, dump him.

If he doesn't pay for every date, he's using you for sex.

1LegendaryWombat · 2019-12-07T23:08:14+00:00

I remember someone saying they were reasonable on purplepill.

My reaction was essentially "ARE YOU INSANE?!"

mimiczx · 2019-12-07T22:02:32+00:00

FDS is the clown world of Reddit 🤡. Delusion and bad/poisonous advice is the only thing found there.

maddisser101 · 2019-12-07T23:36:02+00:00

Lol she is such a bitch. I've argued with her before on PurplePillDebate. Total lunatic that just bathes in the echo chamber atmosphere.

ModsHateTruth · 2019-12-08T00:21:25+00:00

I have been waiting for something like this to come into existence for a while now. Back when it did, I knew it would be the greatest engine for awakening sleeping men's minds that had ever been seen.

I like to place links to that place in appropriate places around the internet. It's electric...galvanizing.

MarvelGeek5321 · 2019-12-08T00:16:41+00:00

u/CoolMelonade: You're not just wrong, you're stupid!

Luchadorgreen · 2019-12-08T03:11:01+00:00

Still not quarantined

angels-fan · 2019-12-08T00:45:26+00:00

Well... She's not wrong though.

Women DO have intrinsic value for just being women.

It's the flip side of the disposablity of men.

frankgold · 2019-12-08T01:37:01+00:00

What does HVM stand for?

Dark_Enganche · 2019-12-08T03:50:48+00:00

That subreddit looks more like a man hating group than dating advice. Not sure if girls would get to date a lot of guys if they follow the 'advice' given there.

red_philosopher · 2019-12-07T22:30:20+00:00

Women do have inherent value. That's why we're evolutionarily predisposed to keeping them safe and alive at the expense of men. Anything involving female privilege can be explained heavily by that. Men, otoh, do not have inherent value, but they have an unparalleled drive/ability to create their own value. And the greater the degree of that value, the more attractive/successful they become.

Women rarely have to exhibit masculine value and productivity because of their inherent value as reproducers. Unfortunately, that window of exceptional value is between the ages of 16-30 (typically). This leads, generally, to women securing resources from men using their inherent value.

FDS seeks to obscure that fact of life, and is largely just another feminism-inspired delusion pretending that women "can have it all" by being less promiscuous (good) but doing so by dangling the carrot of sex in exchange for resources (bad). Typically, women who do that will vanish from your life the moment your usefulness is no longer. Briffault's Law. Also, biologically, by the time they get the degree, get the career, and get the house and the car, they're well into their thirties, and pregnancies after the age of 30 are known medically as "geriatric pregnancies." And few good men really want to have kids with a woman in their thirties, especially after they've been manipulative and have been using their bodies for resources for so long.

The women say it works, until it doesn't, and they get left in the cold when they are in their 40s wondering why all the hot guys they used to tease aren't interested in them anymore. Another casualty of short-term success at the expense of long-term success.

Arthuyo · 2019-12-08T01:23:19+00:00

I suspect many of not most of the participants on that forum rarely if ever date. And even more rarely get repeat dates, such bitterness likely is apparent to their date.

DubsPackage · 2019-12-08T04:49:04+00:00

While women may indeed have "inherent value" in the eyes of most men, it's not something you want to take for granted as a woman, that "inherent value" evaporates quickly in the face of cuntish attitudes.

frankgold · 2019-12-08T01:44:56+00:00

No one and nothing has "inherent value". Value is subjective and it is in the eye of the beholder.

I personally don't value any woman's pussy more than my dick.

Lunatcharsky · 2019-12-08T00:58:07+00:00

I don't? Go fuck yourself, deluded cunt.

mynameisevan01 · 2019-12-08T05:10:06+00:00

They didn't even spell internet right.

slayerx1779 · 2019-12-08T05:10:09+00:00

FemaleDatingStrategy almost doesn't count.

It's a bunch of nutjobs trying to "game the system" in dating. They're a cross-breed between femcels and the red pill.

blank_stare_shrug · 2019-12-08T04:58:48+00:00

That sub is just a way to keep attention focused on them and not you trying to fulfill your own life. It is a horrible putrid gas cloud of a matriarchy worshipping sub. Doesn't matter, make money, do fun shit. That's all you can do and luckily that is all that matters. Live good lives brothers.

Brusanan · 2019-12-08T06:24:53+00:00

That sub is full of women who believe they have "inherent value", yet constantly bitch and moan about how they only ever manage to land shitty men (if they land any men at all).

Well, you get what you pay for, and clearly you aren't paying for much relying only on your "inherent value".

UbiquitousWobbegong · 2019-12-08T10:30:03+00:00

Women do have more inherent value, particularly when talking about women between 18-30 or so. That's why young, moderately attractive women can just show up and the world bends over for them. Female sexual value is based on reproductive health, so young healthy women have all the inherent value you can get.

In comparison, male sexual value is based on their ability to be a provider. That isn't a type of value you can call inherent. It's earned. Young men haven't earned their value on the sexual marketplace yet, so can't compete with the market value of reasonably attractive young women. However, seeing as women rely on their inherent value entirely (when talking about value in the dating market), whereas men can earn theirs, men end up in the better position over time as long as they are successful economically, so it's not all bad news.

Another caveat worth mentioning is that all of this is only true in a general sense. Many women aren't aware of their theoretical value on the sexual marketplace, and don't know how to take advantage of it. Many have low standards, and don't view dating as a value proposition to the extent I'm laying it out here.

But make no mistake, if you are a man who has no special qualifications, society doesn't give a shit about you, and you have no inherent value to fall back on in the dating world. Untrained workers are everywhere with our current immigration rates. You have no value to anyone until you start to earn it. Women come into the world with inherent value. An attractive 18 year old woman requires no special skills to have wealthy men fawning over her. It's just the nature of where female sexual attractiveness comes from.

Don't get me wrong, this isn't meant to be demotivating. Men have at least as much potential on average as women do. A woman might hit her peak sexual value at 23, and hit her peak economic value at 50. In comparison, a man might hit his peak sexual value at 35, and his peak economic value at 50. But while society at large will appreciate the economic value of those two examples the same, assuming they achieve the same level of success, the man's sexual value will be a slow build and a slow decline, while the woman's will be a fast rise and a sharp fall. The type of inherent value women have that men do not is only a boon for a short period of time. We get the better deal in the long run, since our sexual value is intrinsically tied to a renewable resource, whereas theirs is tied to a rapidly depleted one.

If a 7/10 18 year old guy is turned down by a 7/10 18 year old girl because she has the value to date a 8/10 24 year old guy, that seems like a shit deal. But that same 7/10 guy at 35 who is now making six figures has a lot more sexual market value than that 7/10 woman at 35, and now a guy who was once a step down for her might actually be way out of her price range.

So be smart. Play the long game. When the women who turned you down for an older guy with a motorcycle are broken down and unwanted, you can be the sparkle in the eye of someone ten years younger with the tight, healthy body to match. That's just the way the cards played out.

realitymeetirony · 2019-12-08T11:04:49+00:00

Great post! Women in and of themselves have never had any real intrinsic value. Just the hole between their legs for a very limited and finite window. You take that hole away and I promise you that you will realize just how retarded they are. They have no value other than the value we choose to give them.

Original_Dankster · 2019-12-08T04:08:52+00:00

They're right though. Harsh truth. Men are only valued based on what we do. Fertile women are valued just for being.

2019-12-08T07:58:10+00:00

Every single woman there is a woman you don't really want to be near anyway. Just let them have their delusional safe space.

2019-12-08T13:00:42+00:00

Welcome to femcel dating advice

texanapocalypse33 · 2019-12-08T14:42:09+00:00

That sub is 10x worse than any incel sub ever was.

Florist_Gump · 2019-12-08T15:29:10+00:00

Well... they're right. Women possess the biological womb, the bottleneck of our species. That does give them inherent value. I wouldn't say that men have zero inherent value but given their low sexual reproductivity costs it does make males exceedingly low-value from a inherent standpoint. If you're just needing to crank out babies a single male could service a huge community of females where the female output is only 1 child a year.

Men bring value from their deeds, and tend to bring more added-value than any given female's inherent-value. But it does require work, accomplishment, responsibility.

And of course this female inherent value is tied to reproduction, if they're choosing to not produce offspring then they're throwing their one inherent value away.

xerotolerance879 · 2019-12-08T16:54:52+00:00

The level of entitlement and selfishness on that sub is mind blowing.

alc0 · 2019-12-08T04:34:15+00:00

I literally got banned* from their group because I commented in this chat. They said that if I don't fully support them in degrading men because they exist, then I'm not allowed in their group. Honestly, I'm not into communism, so I suppose getting permenantly band is the best thing that's ever happened to me lol

Oparon · 2019-12-08T03:47:24+00:00

That sub is one of the worst on this website.

2019-12-08T06:23:27+00:00

I don't know if it's relevant but I have heard some women claiming that women are the 'givers of life' and that nature put that burden on their shoulders, and therefore they are some sort of powerful goddess that decide upon human life. It's like some of them have built some sort of mythology around the figure of the woman. To me that sounds like they are treating men like genetic waste.

fogoticus · 2019-12-08T07:52:10+00:00

Can we abandon this subreddit already?

The sub is filled with entitled women who believe men are trash while women are godesses even if the man is a multi billion dollar CEO and the woman is a literal stage 18 cancer street hobo who eats cocaine for lunch on a crust of krokodyl every single 17.3 minutes and has 3 limbs missing and one tit is broken.

The idiot who wrote that feels the way she does because there are men who seek women. She forgets the wheel spins the same for the other sex as well.

The sub is filled with severely misandrist bufoons. Aiming at them won't help male rights. They are tone deaf by default.

2019-12-08T08:11:53+00:00

Just a bunch of damaged women trying to convince themselves they arent as worthless as they actually are. And, of course, the lesbians looking to convert other women.

The amount of posts there that go on about men being terrible so that only date women now are laughable.

Bigbossman123 · 2019-12-08T13:44:01+00:00

“According to sexist’s: sexist things”

Why even go in that sub? Play stupid games, win stupid prizes.

Bulletproofmonk · 2019-12-08T14:25:41+00:00

Lol. Just wait until these bitches hit the wall.

I often play a little game when I'm out and about. I look at women and try to figure out at what age they became irrelevant. It's interesting knowing that it happens to them all.

Phosphoric_Tungsten · 2019-12-08T16:57:23+00:00

That sub is literally just r/theredpill but for women. Bunch of incels they are

Drayelya · 2019-12-08T05:54:44+00:00

The issue with these arguments is that they assume only one of a party of two is required for childbirth. The woman carries the egg, the man carries the sperm. This alone dictates that men, likewise, also have inherent value. Society does not view it this way because it is the woman who carries the child during the gestation process. Historically this is why men relegated themselves to dangerous tasks such as hunting and warfare. All to protect the female populace in various ways. How oppressed you were ladies.

Women subject to enough bodily trauma can also lose the ability to reproduce, unlike men, unless their genitalia are severely damaged. This is usually due to damage to the womb. Easier than you might think but, also harder than it sounds.

This then leads into the idea that, if a woman’s womb is damaged and she cannot reproduce, her genetic material is lost, and therefore so is her value to the continuation of the species. Most people typically disregard that a dead man is also a permanent loss of genetic material, simply because he does not carry a child during gestation. Today, in the modern world, genetic material can be harvested and children can be birthed through surrogacy or even artificially. Granted this is at extensive cost but, these factors alone obliterate the idea that women, in the modern age, hold any inherent value beyond saving money and even that is debatable.

The rise of sex robots have recently put feminism and women’s groups in a tizzy because they threaten to steal the remaining sexual value of women, literally relegating them to nothing more than baby factories. This is due to the fact that, beyond sexual interaction and childbirth, women provide no value for men and men are starting to realize this fact. We are also on the verge of creating artificial wombs which would lower the expense of artificial childbirth and eliminate the need for surrogacy. This would ultimately end all value women have aside from being harvested for their eggs, as they are not inventors, builders, intellectuals or societal maintainers/advancers, which is what men are in their entirety, down to their very essence.

Essentially, if men really wanted to, after the rise of the artificial womb, they could eradicate the female species, use their eggs in artificial wombs and harvest any newly born females for their eggs before disposing of them. A fully sustainable process, albeit a dark one to rival dystopian nightmares. This is not what feminism is fighting against however, and instead is fighting for this future, just in the reverse. The natural tendency for women to lay down and be parasites rather than maintainers or builders would inevitably lead to such a society collapsing in short order. Where as if it were men, society would continue unabated since they build and maintain rather than wait for or demand handouts like women.

Dark but, true.

RIPDODGERSBANDWAGON · 2019-12-08T05:29:19+00:00

Which subreddit is worse?

r/FemaleDatingStrategy or

r/Drama

2019-12-08T07:06:39+00:00

Female Dating Strategy is either a cope sub for femcels or just a really hardcore larp. There's no way anyone actually believes any of the nonsense that comes out from there and I can guarantee you that 80% of the women there are low value as well.

2019-12-08T12:01:07+00:00

In spite of knowing that utterly despicable scum is way out of line, it makes me hateful, and I wonder if it's at all a good thing looking at it. It really isn't useful, there will be repulsive shites out there and getting worked up over it serves little to no purpose.

otterlyclueless · 2019-12-08T16:12:59+00:00

Lauren Chen just did a video about the FDS subreddit and it turns out the whole subreddit is garbage to no one surprise.

QueenNayru · 2019-12-08T17:00:57+00:00

In a strange and unacceptable way she is right. Women are born with value while men are not in societies. What she doesn't seem to understand is this teaches boys and men to earn their value and women to coast on their inherited value. So ironically this women will waste her value away claiming men have no value, while men around her will only become more valuable. It's almost poetic.

That all said I think it is wrong that boys are not born with the same value placed in them as girls. It really is unjust. I will say though, being able to create, earn, and prove your value is an incredibly powerful skill set.

2019-12-08T06:14:40+00:00

It's technically correct for the society we are in especially for Western countries. Men have a bigger sex drive so women have some inherent advantage there. Men without the right guidance will very likely be a simp at first. Physical strength is where men have an advantage but there is basically no chance men can use this inherent bonus advantage these days. Fortunately, men also are overall more mentally stable than women so men still come out ahead despite the big inherent advantage for men being banned in modern society.

GitRippedOrDieMirin · 2019-12-08T07:49:01+00:00

Has this person posted a photo before?

bastiroid · 2019-12-08T09:55:25+00:00

Oh boy, she gonna have a rude awakening when she hits 30

HierEncore · 2019-12-08T11:38:48+00:00

You would love some of her posts... https://www.reddit.com/r/FemaleDatingStrategy/comments/e4i2m9/if_your_wife_or_girlfriend_is_working_harder_than/

Revorob · 2019-12-08T13:30:41+00:00

The value of men is that we built and maintain civilisation. The only value a woman has is sex.

kayjaylayray · 2019-12-08T14:47:44+00:00

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blossomflower2 · 2019-12-08T14:53:39+00:00

What a slimeball

2019-12-08T16:59:17+00:00

It's true but it's only temporary. She might have intrinsic value right now based upon her future potential but that will vanish as time passes. As even the feminists recommend, simply ignore women like this from an SMV standpoint and get on with being your best self - if you judge women on equal terms to yourself, you can't go wrong.

2019-12-08T18:34:06+00:00

that subreddit is literally a feminist subreddit. i feel disgusted everytime i look through it.

2019-12-09T00:31:31+00:00

Well, they do in terms of biology. They incubate babies and men are the ones who start the incubation. Both are valuable. Women are just more valuable since they can only have a limited number of babies at once while men can have hundreds throughout their lifetime.

binrobinro · 2019-12-08T05:29:41+00:00

Men's value increases with age.

Just the opposite for women.

sufficientthewasp · 2019-12-08T05:31:22+00:00

Well I mean from an anthropological standpoint, that idea is kinda true. A village can have 100 men, but if all the women die, the village dies. (This is why women aren’t allowed to go to war in most cultures)

EDIT: This idea should not be applied to dating or any sort of modern life. It’s an anthropological idea, meaning pre-modern society.

Whisper · 2019-12-08T07:55:32+00:00

Women do indeed have inherent value where men do not.

However, men have achieved value. And an HVM ("High Value Male") is a man whose achieved value is much higher than a woman's inherent value. So any woman who wants one had better bring more to the party than vagina.

In fact, among the things she had better bring to the party are kindness, femininity and grace.

A High Value Woman, even one who knows the literal truth of the gap in inherent value, would not point it out in such confrontational terms. Because that would bespeak a lack of social graces not consistent with her high value.

Only a woman with no achieved value would be proud of her inherent value.

Jake_Chavira · 2019-12-08T05:06:06+00:00

Darn, when I saved screenshots of FDS I thought I hit the jackpot in Reddit Karma content but SOMEBODIES already beat me to it. Lol.

z3anon · 2019-12-08T09:30:44+00:00

Sounds like someone's salty about being single and unwilling to admit it's because of how toxic they are.

2019-12-08T09:37:40+00:00

At no point in the history of humanity was male chauvinism ever this fucked up and evil.

konous · 2019-12-08T11:47:33+00:00

Worrying about what misandrist females think will not help us.

We already know they hate men. Exposing ourselves to it hust makes us like them.

2019-12-08T12:28:06+00:00

Remember lads: not all women, and not all men.

Lion_amongst_gods · 2019-12-08T05:58:06+00:00

Well, at least they're honest.

All_my_wut · 2019-12-08T07:14:27+00:00

What's HVM, I'm bad at acronyms

mrkeifer86 · 2019-12-08T15:46:05+00:00

Women aging like cheese says thats a lie. But ok.

phracea · 2019-12-09T05:52:00+00:00

A lot of "outside perspective" on this post in particular.

robcars · 2019-12-08T12:10:03+00:00

Problem is there's too many people on this planet so women really don't have that much of an inherent value. Problem is the world has become so overpopulated bleaching close to 8 billion people that we really don't need more people.

mercadogarca · 2019-12-08T17:05:33+00:00

Why that sub is not banned? Violates many reddit rules...

Also, pussy is cheap, low value and abundant these days...

CoolMelonade · 2019-12-08T00:18:14+00:00

Hey gentlemen. How’s your Saturday going?

Kuramo · 2019-12-08T23:57:25+00:00

Well they're slow. I figured >99.99% women are worthless sooner than these entitled bitches.

Exceptions are my mother, 2 aunts, girlwriteswhat, Janice Flamingo and Alexandra Elbakyan (creator of Sci-Hub) and so on

mcbane89 · 2019-12-09T02:50:12+00:00

Correct. Deal with it. It’s about time we figured it out. If you ask me we waited too long to put this out there for all women to realize. Rise up, ladies. Gone are the days when we were told we were dumb and weak. It scares the shit out of all of you huh? Things are changing. Maybe you all shouldn’t have talked so much shit or tried to keep us down for so long. Everything is balance and you all went so far in one direction now we have to push back to the extremes. Oh well. Can’t say most of you don’t deserve everything that’s coming for you.

OfficialTechLead · 2019-12-08T06:35:58+00:00

How are they wrong

Women have more value by being worse than men.

It takes them 9months to birth a child, for a mans 10minutes of effort. They are the bottleneck to continuing our species, which means we have to protect them. I.e. they are inherently higher value and men disposable.

Note this only applies to young women.

polgesteirg · 2019-12-08T04:06:59+00:00

This isn't exactly false though. As the providers of sex and reproduction, women have inherent value that men will never have. That's why men have been disposable for most of human history, while women were protected.

Men have to prove themselves, which isn't a bad thing. The problem nowadays is that our societies are no longer patriarchal, which results in women spriting aheas since they already have a leg-up.

This dichotomy is innately programmed in humans. It had been controlled in traditional societies, but as we all know there is nothing traditional about them anymore. I think you know what the ideal solution to all of this would be.

Title	According to FemaleDatingStrategy, women have inherent value, men don't.
Author	Elite_Gamer_126
Upvotes	1986
Comments	283
Date	December 7, 2019 9:55 PM UTC (6 years ago)
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