Wife files for a divorce after husband pays off her student loans

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Well it's possible he could get an annulment on fraud grounds considering there is pretty big evidence of her using him for money with no good faith on the agreement. If that happens he could probably also then sue her for repayment of debt on fraud grounds. Although it would probably be hard to argue all this but maybe he could get her to incriminate herself in some way i/e "so you only married me to pay off your debt with no intention of staying married?" and she responds in some affirmative way or w/e. Texas is also a single party state which means as long as one party is aware of being recorded it is legal. She most likely is very manipulative and thinks of herself as extremely smart so you can probably catch her trying to insult him by being smug about admitting what she did as she probably wouldn't expect him to record it. Hidden cameras and microphones are super easy to get.

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If you’ve got nothing you’ve got nothing to lose. Learn the law. Tie her up in legal fees for a decade. Go captain catamarans in the British Virgin islands.

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Did he own the house prior to being married to her? It's not like she automatically gets half.

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The lawyers get half, they each get one quarter.

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Time to loosen the fitting on the gas hose to the dryer and take a months vacation.

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If I shot you in the head. It's not my fault, you shouldn't have been standing there. You made a bad decision by not moving and it cost you.

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So what you're saying is that no matter what I do if the outcome is bad it's my fault? Like if I hop on a plane and it crashes into the ocean? "Shouldn't have been on that plane." Or if I get shot at at the mall because some lunatic wanted to shoot the place up? "Shouldn't have gone to the mall." Maybe I should just lock myself in my house for all eternity and then I'll be safe.

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You get a solid say in who you marry.

But no solid information on the risks that come with marriage and dealing with the family court system. Young men are typically not given this information, or even told this is information that they need.

Even if you are the exception and were given this info, the hypothesis that you can get the full measure of a person is utter fantasy. The human mind is a complex system. You cannot know how someone will change ten years down the line or how they will behave when they turn into your worst enemy. You don't know who they'll make friends with, or what will happen in their family. You don't know how you yourself will change ten years from now. You have no idea how they'll behave in a family court setting because the territory is completely alien and fuckton of life-changing decisions are going to be made there.

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You want a valid reply? Well, here is your valid reply.

Imagine that you see a woman that complain about her husband - he's gettin home drunk again, and beat her because of some stupid reason. The person she whines to replies with this answer: You know what? A man doesn't just wake up one day and all of a sudden become a drunkard wifebeater...he was like that when you married, but for whatever reason, you didn't see it. So really, who is at fault that you have a shitty marriage? If you go into a store and buy a shit piece of furniture, really, who's fault is that? I trust you can apply that principle to partner selection.

Would you agree with this person's words? Would you agree with the fact, that it was her own fault, that she was beaten by husband, because she suck at selecting partners, and no one is forced her to marry this particular man? No? Then stop supporting obvious victim blaming, when it comes to man having shitty marriages.

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MGTOW is fundamentally a bunch of men who made shit decisions in picking a partner.

Yes they did. Can you blame them? Are there any classes for men on "Learning to recognize gold diggers before youre married". Should the court system award the woman what the man provided because she (on a whim) wants a divorce?

Accountability is a thing.

Sure. The women are accountable to not be gold diggers. Men these days are not educated to spot gold diggers. Most wesern countries have archaic laws giving women the Lions share of possessions that the man earned.

MGTOW is bringing attention to the fact women have too much leverage in the court systems. Just like the old "No taxation without representation" men want their struggles heard just like the situation linked.

Can you empathize with the man here?

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WarGames

WarGames is a 1983 American Cold War science fiction film written by Lawrence Lasker and Walter F. Parkes and directed by John Badham. The film stars Matthew Broderick, Dabney Coleman, John Wood, and Ally Sheedy. The film follows David Lightman (Broderick), a young hacker who unwittingly accesses WOPR (War Operation Plan Response), a United States military supercomputer originally programmed to predict possible outcomes of nuclear war. Lightman gets WOPR to run a nuclear war simulation, believing it to be a computer game.

Mutual assured destruction

Mutual assured destruction or mutually assured destruction (MAD) is a doctrine of military strategy and national security policy in which a full-scale use of nuclear weapons by two or more opposing sides would cause the complete annihilation of both the attacker and the defender (see pre-emptive nuclear strike and second strike). It is based on the theory of deterrence, which holds that the threat of using strong weapons against the enemy prevents the enemy's use of those same weapons. The strategy is a form of Nash equilibrium in which, once armed, neither side has any incentive to initiate a conflict or to disarm.

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The "mistrust" argument works both ways. So just point that out.

After all, if you intend for the marriage to last forever then it doesn't matter if you take these precautions. Since you intend to be with the person forever. If you're against it, then you mistrust your partner and think they'll leave you and thus want a better outcome in the divorce. Which means you are planning for the relationship's failure as well.

It's better for both to take precautions when things are good, so you can both agree on something reasonable. During divorce you're going to be emotional one way or another, and it's unlikely you'll be acting reasonably. If you don't agree to things, then it's good you found it out before getting things tied up through marriage and can just bail on the relationship if you so choose.

Unfortunately prenups are pretty worthless, and get thrown out a lot. "But judge, it was under duress! He wouldn't marry me if I didn't sign it!" is an argument that seems to actually work.

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My mother was raised as a "good christian woman". She married my father because she loved him and he got her pregnant with me. She followed him through small town preacher hood. Took fast food jobs just so we could have a little bit more. My father farmed a bit just so we could have some fresh veggies. Went off into the mountains to find ginseng so we could have money for christmas presents. Neither saw each other as a utility. My father got into drugs, met the wrong crowd, got my mom into it. Now they're both junkies. She wants to quit, he wont let her. Breaks down doors, strangles her, hits her head against walls. She screams and yells, takes his phone. Men are not the problem, women are not the problem. Drugs are the problem, society is the problem. My mother is willing to stay with a man that calls her stupid, yells at her regularly because she sees him as a utility? She sobs on the ground saying she sorry and she loves him after he gave her a concussion because she doesn't love him? I'm still a staunch MRA even after watching this shit.

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Women are encouraged to do this sort of thing through constantly being told their decisions are empowering and therefore good and discouraged from feeling empathy for men or considering their perspective.

In a feminist culture, most women are this way, and conflate being selfish and using institutional and cultural privilege to abuse men with ethical behavior. They feel powerful when they are cruel, and are told them feeling powerful is good. That's just how it is and what feminism has fostered.

Only outlier women in terms of empathy avoid this, people empathetic enough that social indoctrination doesn't overcome it, as well as those who have been convinced to reject societies indoctrination by the MRM.

If you want a pretty quick and easy proof for how society is stacked in womens favor and against men, consider the following:

To what extent are men subjected to social norms, institutional rules, and laws, designed to make them help women be able to make decisions and choices that they want to make?

Compare;

To what extent are women subjected to social norms, institutional rules, and laws, designed to make them help men be able to make decisions and choices that they want to make?

Note that; "Well men are more often forced to go to work while women stay at home." doesn't answer the question over personal power over ones life, nor any of the other shit. Fact is, women aren't subjected to norms, rules, or norms designed to place their desires and needs second to mens decisions and force them to help men be able to make those decisions, and most of the time, men don't get to make decisions in the first place. The best example I can think of is abortion law, and even there, most anti-abortionists are women in the US and most other modern nations have the matter settled. We live in a society that celebrates and encourages female sociopathy by telling them men are bad people for having their own lives and desires separate from hers, and tells women that any man who doesn't like the fact he is subjected, his life and his choices subject to her demands, is a bad person, and that almost any choice she makes is a good thing and therefore if men have to get fucked over to help her make that choice that's fine.

Red pillers are in this thread arguing it's some defect in womens brains that makes them that way. I think it's feminism and its effect on culture, because there's women MRAs. But ignoring that it's most of them is ignoring the scale of the problem.

Women need to learn that empathy isn't empathy if it disappears the moment it becomes inconvenient for you.

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Didnt a women sue and win a man she was dating after he won the lottery and left her? Surely this guy can do the same and get his money back?

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It was the opposite, a woman won and divorced her husband. Might have happened another time with the roles reversed like you described, though.

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No. Hell no. Nothing justifies Sharia law, and you should be ashamed for thinking that way.

People are not slaves, and thinking it's ok to say this shows how misguided you really are. If you don't like women, then fine. But saying women deserve to be treated as second class citizen is where you have officially gone off the deep end. Women should not be forced to serve you as a slave just because you hear where someone was manipulated and used. You're getting your info from a group dedicated to finding the news like this, which is probably a vast minority of most loving relationship.

I'll probably get down voted for even saying all this, but it must be said. If you think this way, you're just as bad as the feminists who think men should be second class citizens. You just said so. That's why you're probably alone and hate women, and it's a self perpetuating cycle. You can't get a girl, so you call her a bitch and try to justify it with shit like this article, claiming all women are evil and manipulative. It's toxic bullshit like this that makes people disregard MRA out of hand, instead of considering what we're here to do.

Don't perpetuate the cycle. Look at the good things that women can bring. Spewing hate will only leave you alone and miserable, and you'll grow bitter and mean. Remember that we can be better people if you just try. Make the world a better place, both for yourself and the people you love. Start by focusing on the positives and rejecting the negatives. You'll be much better off, not just here but in every aspect of your life. Be not just a good man but a good human being.

Rant over. Just think on what I said, and find it within yourself to be a better person. That's how you bring about change. One person doing good brings everyone to a better place.

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Title	Wife files for a divorce after husband pays off her student loans
Author	beers-and-bratwurst
Upvotes	1588
Comments	178
Date	April 23, 2018 6:39 PM UTC (8 years ago)
Subreddit	Posted in /r/MensRights
Original Link	https://old.reddit.com/r/MensRights/comments/8edt1z/wife_files_for_a_divorce_after_husband_pays_off/
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