Noticed This in a Restroom

Macismyname · 2017-04-04T16:38:34+00:00

I like this from the angle of "Oh wow, Prostate cancer must be way worse than I thought." Rather than trying to compete with breast cancer.

It can be a hard line to walk I know, but as with most issues here I don't want them to turn into a competition with women's issues. Breast cancer is a problem and deserves attention, Prostate cancer is at least just as much of a problem and deserves attention.

One can talk about the funding difference between the two, but that's something else entirely.

JohnnyComesSecond · 2017-04-04T22:34:02+00:00

More men die WITH prostate cancer. This is a distinction.

yo-yo-baggins · 2017-04-04T19:13:44+00:00

Other countries - especially Australia - seem to be at the forfront for this sort of thing.

Whenever I see a post like this I always leave a little depressed that it wasn't from the US.

(don't get me wrong, I am happy for Australia. They should be proud of what they achieved. I am just a bit jealous)

ozyri · 2017-04-04T20:01:52+00:00

People get cancer, let's help all people to not die. Equally. Whatever that requires. Dying is crap.

How about that for a headline?

ineedthememes · 2017-04-04T19:45:43+00:00

And men can also get brest cancer

Dazz316 · 2017-04-04T20:59:25+00:00

I hate this whole thing. I know how it came to this but i hate how we are trying to win the top trumps of best disease.

YeltsinYerMouth · 2017-04-04T19:50:42+00:00

Pretty much every cancer is worse than breast cancer (not to say that it isn't*terrible#). You would think that even with a large focus on women, it would be cervical or ovarian getting all the attention.

Edit: it seems I was not correct.

Creamfilling · 2017-04-04T21:52:12+00:00

Men who live long enough are guaranteed to die with prostate cancer but not necessarily because of it. I don't think this is a fare comparison to breast cancer.

grocket · 2017-04-05T00:05:04+00:00

joniuk · 2017-04-04T20:24:26+00:00

More women died in the UK in 2014 of breast cancer than men of prostate cancer, 11433 and 11287 deaths respectively. Obviously any death is terrible and this isn't a competition.

Source: http://www.cancerresearchuk.org/health-professional/cancer-statistics/statistics-by-cancer-type/prostate-cancer http://www.cancerresearchuk.org/health-professional/cancer-statistics/statistics-by-cancer-type/breast-cancer

Blitz7x · 2017-04-04T22:21:14+00:00

More men die with prostate cancer than from it

cranktheguy · 2017-04-04T20:18:29+00:00

Nice poster, but that extra comma is giving me cancer.

PowerToAnnihilate · 2017-04-04T15:45:44+00:00

awesome!

PilotDad · 2017-04-04T23:12:21+00:00

Possible factors that would influence these numbers-

We men, as a group, tend to suffer in silence for a long while rather than make time to see a doctor.
It's less likely to detect prostate cancer in the course of everyday activities such as taking a shower. While it's common to touch the breasts, it's not so common to give oneself a digital rectal exam. (Okay, I'm speaking for myself here. Your experience may vary.)

TheWolfeWithin · 2017-04-04T21:00:45+00:00

Everyone likes boobs more. .....

MizterUltimaman · 2017-04-04T23:29:41+00:00

Preaching to the choir.

To fellow MRAs, this argument makes plenty of sense. But to bluepillers (or "purple pillers") this argument sounds like it's trying to make a male/female divide, and turns things into a gender divide instead of gender unity.

Maybe put a statistic like "Help prostate and breast cancer! 1,000 people die of breast, while 1,100 people die of prostate cancer!" (Idk the actual numbers, but put em in) And have the blue/purple piller connect the dots on their own.

juanito_caminante · 2017-04-05T02:35:57+00:00

256000 men died worldwide of prostate cancer in 2010. 458000 women died worldwide of breast cancer in 2008.

Moonboots606 · 2017-04-05T08:05:33+00:00

I had that same argument with a (feminist) friend of mine, why no one supports testicular or prostate cancer awareness like they do breast cancer awareness. It's a pity, really.

3y3-000 · 2017-04-04T20:22:47+00:00

And that's why I masturbate or have frequent sex

Honk4Tits · 2017-04-04T22:44:59+00:00

Bring on the brown ribbons

seeking101 · 2017-04-04T23:49:21+00:00

Thought it was also worth mentioning that men can get breast cancer while women obviously cant get prostate cancer.

Youd be surprised how many people dont know men can get breast cancer

PharaohMom15 · 2017-04-05T01:19:18+00:00

I believe that most of these threads have missed the point of the poster entirely. It's not a competition. It's not even really to debate the numbers. The point is to make people (men) take notice and become aware of what they could be facing. As some of you pointed out, men are far less likely to get regular check ups and catch cancer early. So if this poster makes even one man say "Oh sh$t... maybe I should get checked out!", then it has achieved the goal of the marketing campaign.

--Edog-- · 2017-04-05T02:41:08+00:00

Had to zoom in to confirm that this is NOT USA. If it's a common sense PSA, "Gotta be 'stralia"

LyingRedditBastard · 2017-04-05T03:50:41+00:00

So finger your buddy's asshole?

super_ag · 2017-04-05T04:47:10+00:00

I don't think this is true though.

Here are the statistics for mortality rates of various cancers. In the United States, breast cancer led to over 40,000 deaths in 2016. Prostate cancer claimed just over 26,000. So I'm not sure where the creator of this poster got his numbers

yotamnk · 2017-04-05T07:54:17+00:00

The thing that most annoys me is when people pull the age argument even though the average age for breast cancer is 62 (prostate is 66).

soundsaboutWRIGHT · 2017-04-04T20:43:09+00:00

Why the fuck is it a competition? It's not just on Reddit where, if a women's issue is brought up, someone has to bring up a related men's issue.

BedWedOrBehead · 2017-04-05T02:54:45+00:00

All cancer matters!

bbbygenius · 2017-04-04T22:27:07+00:00

Get your free prostate exam in stall number 2.

CrazedFireball · 2017-04-04T23:36:13+00:00

Australia! Whoo! I see these at my local shopping center all the time. They give out leaflets too.

bradtwo · 2017-04-05T00:26:03+00:00

Cancer sucks either way. But yes! Breast cancers survival rate when caught early is extemely high.

Since it's location can be isolated easier than the cervix or prostate.

Honestly it all just because of the pink ribbon scam I mean foundation.

Eiriktherod · 2017-04-05T00:50:35+00:00

This is a lovley & tactful ad, I wish they had it in my area!

falsestone · 2017-04-05T01:51:34+00:00

I've often heard this attributed to underdiagnosis not due to a lack of access to gastroenterologists or others who may perform colonoscopies, but due to failure of patients to seek these screenings and to follow up as recommended (in US healthcare, as a member of the research community). It's thought to stem in part from the "macho man" persona where men don't "complain" (seek help). Also, a better equivalent might be pap smears for cervical cancer: both require penetrative screening by a specialist, are sex-specific, and are underdiagnosed due to a lack of screening. Breast cancer can affect either sex, but only XX women have cervices and only XY men have prostates.

wlxr · 2017-04-05T02:16:59+00:00

Effective and targets the groups who should care. Nice.

suitology · 2017-04-05T05:25:51+00:00

I mean this is less of a mens rights thing and more of a simple self check you can do at home vs shoving your finger up your asshole with a phd.

silent_reader83 · 2017-04-05T02:35:07+00:00

This is not a Fucking competition!

callmeslothman · 2017-04-05T02:45:19+00:00

Is it a contest?

Ryesagain · 2017-04-05T03:17:14+00:00

Nothing matters. No one is born on purpose. We're all going to die. Men are disposable. Get over it. Life sucks. Anyone want to kill me?

BrownieThief · 2017-04-04T23:16:00+00:00

Winning.

Rainbow_Stares · 2017-04-04T23:55:03+00:00

That ad agency is one g away from a well rounded ad.

xChrisTilDeathx · 2017-04-05T00:25:19+00:00

Every time I tell someone this they fucking laugh at me and call me crazy

friendlessboob · 2017-04-05T00:28:11+00:00

In America at least, doesn't lung cancer kill more women than breast cancer? Like twice as many?

Billisits · 2017-04-05T00:42:02+00:00

"Ew penis"

Cheel_AU · 2017-04-05T01:51:12+00:00

I have a history of prostrate cancer in my family and sometimes have trouble peeing, but I'm only 35.

Reckon maybe I should nab one of those free tests?

deedoedee · 2017-04-05T09:08:10+00:00

That's some terrible and creepy artwork.

_empecinado · 2017-04-05T12:28:39+00:00

Check and mate women, step up your game. Seriously, the way they worded it makes it look like a competition

DukeMaximum · 2017-04-05T13:34:36+00:00

That's certainly encouraging.

BattmanRI · 2017-04-05T16:13:48+00:00

FYI just gonna call bullshit on this "fact" :2013 40k+ women died of breast cancer and 27.5k+ men die of prostate in USA - Australian stats only show projected 2017 (which shows Prostate overtaking breast cancer) but could not find prior data to support this stat. Sounds like a marketing ploy.... https://www.cdc.gov/cancer/breast/statistics/index.htm https://www.cdc.gov/cancer/prostate/statistics/index.htm

TheSpiffySpaceman · 2017-04-05T19:04:25+00:00

The comma splice though :(

Unexpected_reference · 2017-04-04T22:45:08+00:00

Should at least get a tag that this is true to Australia and not US/EU since some comments seem to think it's a hidden conspiracy to kill men.

jr_G-man · 2017-04-05T02:07:18+00:00

Is this real? I thought most men die WITH prostate cancer, not OF it.

BlackBeltBeta · 2017-04-05T10:54:00+00:00

Should cancer really be a competition here? Reasonably speaking most types of cancer are treatable through the same methods, so research into a cure would likely be universal. So just because breast cancer gets more attention doesn't make this a case of women having more rights than men, like the title of the subreddit suggests.

kilbox1a · 2017-04-05T11:00:04+00:00

Can we all agree all types of cancer just flat out suck?

DrewFlan · 2017-04-04T16:12:13+00:00

Uhh, my 5 minute Google search shows that this is flat out wrong:

It is estimated that 26,120 deaths from this disease (prostate cancer) will occur this year.

.

It is estimated that 40,890 people (40,450 women and 440 men) will die from breast cancer this year.

Source:

http://www.cancer.net/cancer-types/breast-cancer/statistics

http://www.cancer.net/cancer-types/prostate-cancer/statistics

dinosinpanties · 2017-04-05T03:50:44+00:00

Didn't realize it was a competition, fellas.

Gambizzle · 2017-04-05T09:29:48+00:00

Cancer sux and IMO shouldn't be used as a gendered/political issue. There's many types of cancer and we can all get it, IMO a united front against it is best.

Dwayne_dibbly · 2017-04-05T09:40:43+00:00

Didn't realise it was a competition.

Title	Noticed This in a Restroom
Author	patternofpi
Upvotes	5688
Comments	226
Date	April 4, 2017 3:42 PM UTC (9 years ago)
Subreddit	Posted in /r/MensRights
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