Mom Tearfully Agrees in Court to Son's Circumcision

dungone · 2015-05-23T00:07:19+00:00

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ki11joyace · 2015-05-23T00:04:20+00:00

Doesn't signing a contract under duress invalidate it?

Insula92 · 2015-05-23T01:14:03+00:00

How does it make sense for a court to force you to agree to something instead of ordering it directly?

ROUS_Do_Exist · 2015-05-23T03:36:53+00:00

Can I get an ELI5 on this? Why is the gov forcing a circumcision? Are they claiming a medical reason or something else? Plenty of people don't get circumcised, why does she have to have her son do it?

mARINATEDpENIS · 2015-05-23T09:43:52+00:00

All this commotion, lawyers and legal fees, just to get a small boy's penis mutilated.

jostler57 · 2015-05-23T01:51:15+00:00

I only know what is written in this article, regarding this situation, but from that, I'd say this woman is a saint for her attempts.

I_divided_by_0- · 2015-05-23T10:34:21+00:00

Is this fucking Saudi Arabia, What the Fuck?

aawillma · 2015-05-23T08:47:29+00:00

It's horror stories like this that makes circumcision a must-have conversation before having a kid with someone. It seems petty to some but I would not get pregnant until it was completely off the table. Sad that it comes to that, I wish it was illegal.

Ultramegasaurus · 2015-05-23T07:05:11+00:00

It's really fucking maddening to see fathers' rights trampled at every corner except when he wants to have his son mutilated. There are mothers who receive less legal trouble for systematically alienating fathers from their children than this one receives for trying to protect her son's bodily integrity. It's absolutely fucked up.

5th_Law_of_Robotics · 2015-05-23T15:44:46+00:00

Hironimus has been jailed for a week over her opposition to the circumcision, and she relented only when a judge informed her that she wouldn't get out until she changed her mind

Switch the genders of the kid being cut.

Sounds like something out of rural Pakistan/Saudi Arabia that would receive a condemnation from the first lady and the UN.

Oh well. The officially sanctioned sky spirits will now accept the child, since his sinful extra bit of skin has now been forcibly removed without his consent.

/the patriarchy benefits men in weird ways.

wisty · 2015-05-23T04:37:52+00:00

According to ballotpedia, his term won't expire until 2021.

Your_Bacon_Counselor · 2015-05-23T12:09:01+00:00

This is a human rights issue pure and simple. Bodily integrity is a recognised and codified basic human right.

The judge and the legal system have engaged in oppressive and "terroristic" activities as well as well as denying this parent autonomy over her child.(You feminists hear that?)

Giorria_Dubh · 2015-05-23T16:30:37+00:00

One (quasi) solution: Find out what doctor is going to perform the procedure and blacken their name. Make sure every mailbox within their state, and surrounding states is filled with information about what they've done. Ditto for the judge. Loud protests outside their practice during opening hours, same for the courthouse, the works. Maybe get in touch with those guys who protest with the bloodstained trousers. Let's make circumcising an unconsenting minor what it should be: A career ending move.

CptFizz · 2015-05-23T11:43:29+00:00

The United Nations Universal Declaration of Human Rights

Article 3
Everyone has the right to life, liberty and security of person.

“It is not called the 'Partial Declaration of Human Rights'. It is not the 'Sometimes Declaration of Human Rights'. It is the Universal Declaration, guaranteeing all human beings their basic human rights – without exception.”

--Ban Ki-moon, U.N. Secretary General, December 2010

clerk1o1 · 2015-05-23T04:00:31+00:00

Can't we all take a moment and think about how much pain this kid is gonna be in. I don't have a strong belief either way, at least not like these two clearly do, but at four couldn't the dad just chalk it up to a loss and not put his kid through that. Mom shouldn't have taken kid but I can't figure out why she had to get it done or why the dad trumps the mom in this case

shadowguyver · 2015-05-23T09:29:41+00:00

She is still looking at jail time. They decided to charge her with custody interference or something like yhat. It comes with a possible 5 year sentence.

SilencingNarrative · 2015-05-23T05:28:53+00:00

Heather:

Thank you for fighting this as hard as you did. When we finally outlaw circumcision for the human rights violation that it is, the judge who jailed you will be remebered as one of the last authorities to hold human rights back before americans lost this barbaric custom. You will be remembered as one of the few people who forced the issue, and great personal risk, hastenening the dawn.

Well done and god bless.

Tmomp · 2015-05-23T05:38:26+00:00

Child abuse by the state.

Sickening.

nc863id · 2015-05-23T06:45:57+00:00

As disgusting as this situation is (and that's pretty hard to quantify, since it's like the universe -- infinite but bounded), I have to admit that I felt this odd sense of refreshment seeing a woman on this sub, who isn't actively fighting for men's rights in the overt sense like Christina Hoff Sommers or girlwriteswhat does, being presented in a positive light.

Armiel · 2015-05-23T18:08:17+00:00

I really hope the kid tells the doctors he doesn't want it done. Hopefully, they'd remember their Hippocratic oath and not do the operation.

BTW: Does anyone else notice how suddenly "the best interests of the child" don't matter in this case?

McFeely_Smackup · 2015-05-23T18:37:27+00:00

I don't think "Agrees" is the word they're looking for.

intensely_human · 2015-05-23T02:50:48+00:00

Roddy0608 · 2015-05-23T18:22:16+00:00

Why was she forced to agree/consent? It doesn't make sense to me.

gently_smiling_jews · 2015-05-23T23:38:29+00:00

Your body's not really yours. Your body is a used product you're given to when you're 18. Like a used car picked by your parents, with your only sense of self-identity being your bumper stickers and the interior. Then you spent your 20s trying to reclaim it.

newspapers_ignizzle · 2015-05-23T06:05:52+00:00

I am fully opposed to circumcision. Myself, my younger brother, and my father are all uncircumcised, never had a single problem. My girlfriend tells me that every man she's been with whose been circumcised has had some problem or other with his penis. Over-sensitivity, premature ejaculation, painful erections, and just generally weird looking dicks.

TheMightyMrM · 2015-05-23T05:53:45+00:00

I'm sorry to burst the bubble here, but didn't she already agree to this? Don't get me wrong, I'm all for protecting the genital integrity of everyone, especially babies, but if she already agreed to let the procedure happen...I can't really finish my thought, but I'm hoping I just said enough that someone understands the sentiment

deadalnix · 2015-05-23T19:57:46+00:00

The article present it asa parental battle. Because, you know, it is obviously about the parents, notabout the son's dick, or the "justice" system willing to enforce it.

iWoof_Cub · 2015-05-23T08:59:23+00:00

I'm just gonna leave this here for wishful thinking:

http://youtu.be/bwdX0428hlI

Gaming_Loser · 2015-05-23T09:19:56+00:00

Pack it up boys, the feminists won. They literally can now have the state cut our dicks off.

TheRedThrowAwayPill · 2015-05-23T23:42:37+00:00

LOL @ this sub!

Especially @ the fact that the Intactivism nonsense is only getting some attention because it was a woman who was complaining and could get arrested for it!

Haa

iWoof_Cub · 2015-05-23T00:18:44+00:00

This story leaves many more questions than answers. Seems like it got cut short.

troubledtimez · 2015-05-24T08:21:28+00:00

I feel bad for the boy and the boys father. She seems like a real nutcase.

Title	Mom Tearfully Agrees in Court to Son's Circumcision
Author	funnyfaceking
Upvotes	248
Comments	136
Date	May 22, 2015 11:39 PM UTC (11 years ago)
Subreddit	Posted in /r/MensRights
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