Redpillers hate western women

FlakyImpact5838 · 2022-06-13T21:25:43+00:00

Then you have goofballs like Coach Red Pill who thinks it’s best to make a bold decision and move to Eastern Europe for the sake of getting laid

Kaleidoscopefatigue · 2022-06-13T19:40:59+00:00

I feel bad for the Asian girls who have to dodge all these guys.

WestAtmosphere · 2022-06-13T21:50:35+00:00

Don't other countries have even higher standards though? I thought some asian cultures are very picky, along with eastern European. They may take on a more "submissive" role, but it comes with a price.

xvszero · 2022-06-13T20:09:59+00:00

Red pillers hate all women. But they especially hate women who have freedom.

karabnp · 2022-06-14T02:49:16+00:00

**Western women have their own minds, their own opinions, do what they want, and don’t bend to my will and whims.

There, stated what they REALLY mean.😏🤣🙄

iluminatiNYC · 2022-06-13T21:53:07+00:00

Strong concurrence, but for two separate reasons. One is that many of them want to use Passport privilege to boss women around. That isn't per se gender specific, but it's used a lot in Red Pill talk, and it's honestly what snapped me out of it. Two is that a lot of Red Pill types are first or second generation Westerners who are having a hell of a time assimilating, and have just enough knowledge of The Old Ways to be dangerous.

Windrider91 · 2022-06-13T19:51:27+00:00

I guess that's what happens when everything you know about Asian women comes from the word of pickup artists and Hentai

SoIlikeMangos · 2022-06-13T20:33:46+00:00

Traditional or religious women hate these guys.

Carloverguy20 · 2022-06-14T04:35:48+00:00

Well, redpillers, mgtow, incels and most manospherians don't see women as independent human beings free from control and have their own opinions. They only see women as their property.

They fetishize women from Eastern Europe, Middle East, Asia,African, Latin America, because they have this false ideology that women from these parts of the world are submissive, don't have tik-tok, social media, are submissive housewives who have to be controlled by men.

These men need a wake-up-call because women from those countries are far from that. They have this fetish for non-western-women. These women would tear these manospherians apart, they aren't going to sit there and let them treat them like crap.

achyshaky · 2022-06-13T21:14:48+00:00

Because Western women have the most liberties and have no intention of giving them up.

JUMPsuperstar · 2022-06-14T14:59:57+00:00

Currently flirting/teasing with a woman that's slightly taller than me. And she's flirting back! Oops! Oh, and she's black! And I'm black! The horror!

madame_imane · 2022-06-14T12:05:45+00:00

they also have a lot of misconceptions about other cultures! they always talk about muslim women like they're slaves but in reality they're not. Its pathetic and hilarious.

Zenia_neow · 2022-06-14T12:10:40+00:00

Men: threatens women with rape, physical violence and financial control

Hmmm I think women must be submissive because of the estrogen.

Also, which "western women" are they shitting on? Indian men are complaining that their women aren't submissive enough and are too feminist. Asian men are complaining that feminism is runing the "natural hierarchy" between men & women. Where the fuck are they gonna find their dream exploitable wife?

AntiVictimhood · 2022-06-14T12:33:14+00:00

I think the reality is that they hate that most western women have

Freedom of choice. Men want more control, because it is the only thing that will make them feel safe in the relationship. Since they don't feel, at their core, that they are lovable and desirable for who they are- they seek control over women to gain a sense of security. The fact that Western women can choose who they date, how they date, and when they want to leave triggers insecurity in RP guys.
Financial independence. People who make their own money and are financially stable on their own are not enticed by wealth alone. And in RP world, money and status are the ultimate goals for men. But having money isn't a sufficient selling point when you're trying to attract a partner who is already financially stable. I think they hate the fact that women are no longer dependent on male partners, and that fact means that attracting a woman based on your financial stability alone isn't enough (unless you're in the top 0.1% of earners, then it's possible).
Greater individuality and less adherence to gender roles/ stereotypes. I see this theme in lots of comments on incel content- how RP men find women confusing, don't make sense, are hard to read etc. I think some dudes in RP just want women to conform to stereotypes because that predictability makes it easier to interact with them. And that's what F&F does, they hand pick these simple minded women to come on their pod and then control the conversation to ensure that the women seem as one dimensional as possible. They work so hard to frame all women as the same- and the utility is that believing all women are the same makes it less stressful for men to interact with women if they think they can predict her needs, motives, wants etc. True connection takes work, and that's not a task most RP guys are up to. They don't really want true connection, they want a servant.
Sexual liberation. It's no secret that guys who are attracted to RP are generally insecure and dissatisfied with their dating life in some way. That insecurity and lack of experience makes them intimidated at the prospect that whoever they end up dating has more experience and better experiences than they do. I think there is also just an element of possessiveness where it's hard to make peace with a partner's past if they've had multiple sexual partners. The other element to this is plain and simple entitlement. Especially the messaging in Fresh and Fit, where they say that high value men (whatever the fuck that really means) are entitled to cheat, to sleep with multiple women etc. That theme of entitlement flows throughout lots of RP content and I think guys get mad when women don't enable their entitlement.

Disclaimer- obviously the RP community is diverse so these themes will not be applicable to all. And I am only saying this in reference to most RP adherents, not men in general.

n0name1026 · 2022-06-13T20:35:35+00:00

The complaints come from a fear of rejection. Its an incomplete masculinity that wants a pain free 'sure thing'

The question that they need to ask themselves is 'are my standards realistic? Do I hold my prospective partner to the same standards I hold myself?'

Its easy to say 'they hate women' and imagine them as mustache twirling villains that make fun of and mistreat women out of some sort of psychopathic pleasure, but the reality is these are guys who don't understand that just as a weight lifter develops calluses on his hands from months of training, you develop calluses on your heart and resilience from your efforts at self improvement and the risk you take when you put yourself out there with honesty.

I see a lot of caricatures. You've got these guys who think that western women are nymphomaniacs who are ready to sleep with any tall muscular man who has expensive clothes and jewelry on at the drop of a hat and you have people on the opposite end who think that these guys all want a slave that they can have sex with.

The truth is somewhere in the middle. Women and men are lonely, and both fear rejection and want to hedge their bets in the best way they know how. For men drawn into the red pill it comes in the form of never committing to a woman even if you really like her, and for women in the same boat who are scared of rejection it comes in the form of wanting to stay friends with a man that they rejected. The underlying motivator in both cases is a desire for security and certainty in an insecure and uncertain world. When one realizes that there are limits to control, one can live more peacefully.

I'm hoping someone eventually writes an active nihilist guide to dating that incorporates Buddhist principles about desire and how attachment to worldly things can cause pain. 'Love' as we've grown up recognizing it is an extremely difficult, painful, and stressful feeling that we subject ourselves to. A lot of our 'romantic' works cautioned people against becoming infatuated with other people. This is a great breakdown about what 'love' does to people.

https://youtu.be/nu77cxYtSO0

I think the creator of the video does a good job at summing up how this kind of infatuation hurts both men and women and makes an argument for a new conception of inter gender relationships.

neoexileee · 2022-06-13T20:46:01+00:00

Western women are all different. So therefore what you need to do to win their heart is different. You certainly don’t start with Misogyny.

Hefty_Yam7656 · 2022-06-13T23:34:43+00:00

There is a man living in a room & board with me, he's 5'4 , like me, and VERY CUTE! He is up & down about being my boyfriend but I told him I would if that's what he wanted because I like him, he seems a bit unconfident, maybe for that particular reason... but height doesn't mean much to me, I'd prefer a guy atleast my size though.

heytheredelilah91 · 2022-06-14T13:21:49+00:00

I'm surprised they don't go run off and join religious cults where women are considered property and marriages are arranged.

Naus1987 · 2022-06-13T21:07:59+00:00

Does the Karen archetype count as a western woman? Whatever leads a woman to being a Karen is some thing I don’t like, lol!

Hate is a strong word. I just avoid them.

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I dislike hook-up culture too, but I don’t hate anyone who participates in it. I just won’t date anyone who does. I can have lots of friends without trying to date them, lol

Title	Redpillers hate western women
Author	icequeenoftheworld
Upvotes	60
Comments	102
Date	June 13, 2022 7:27 PM UTC (4 years ago)
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