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Former slut is worried that her high partner count (20+) will turn off her boyfriend. Commenters in r/AskWomen yell "You go girl!!" and encourage her to lie about her number.

needsomehelp3211

April 13, 2014
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Title Former slut is worried that her high partner count (20+) will turn off her boyfriend. Commenters in r/AskWomen yell "You go girl!!" and encourage her to lie about her number.
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Upvotes 212
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Date April 13, 2014 9:49 PM UTC
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Comments

[–]Labore_Et_Constantia 245 points246 points247 points 12 years ago (16 children) | Copy Link

I know we all like the lock/key analogy, but this one (found on this awesome sub) is up there as well as to why the number DOES matter:

http://imgur.com/3edQoQO

[–][deleted] 42 points43 points44 points 12 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

holy shit that is gold

[–]iseeyou131221 points22 points23 points 12 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

It was a very good post overall. If you or anyone else wants to read it, search "Why Betas Marry Leftovers".

[–][deleted] 12 points13 points14 points 12 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link

That is genius. If it was somehow turned into soft, BP language like "most women tend to", it would be upvoted to the billionth degree on reddit.

[–]love2fap16 points17 points18 points 12 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

ironically, i saw a nugget of TRP in there. naturally, it was downvoted.

http://i.imgur.com/8YVjCI9.png

[–]DaBuddahN0 points1 point2 points 12 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

I respect the fact that this sub backs its hypotheses and arguments with scientific facts; but I fucking hate how everything that isn't in RP language is automatically "BP". Saying "most women tend to" is the most scientifically and factually accurate thing anyone of any background could say with respect to the things discussed here.

Everyone 'endorsed' member here links to studies to prove their point, which is a premise I believe everyone who has an argument with regards to anything should do; but it's as if they themselves didn't read the entire article, the articles are ALL ABOUT TENDENCIES - there are no absolutes in human behavior. It's not a hard science like physics.

People aren't upvoting "women who are sluts in the past tend to be sluts in the future" because they somehow think the word "tend" is the greatest word ever conceived, it's because it is an accurate representation of reality; TRP tends to speak in absolutes, and objectively speaking, although I know it's done in order to push the message further and drive the point home, it's factually wrong; tendencies dominate the social and psychological sciences - because it's the best we can do in the scientific community.

[–][deleted] 6 points7 points8 points 12 years ago* (1 child) | Copy Link

I agree with you in a vaccuum and would say that reddit behaves in that manner if we are discussing some other type of generalization (black people / affirmative action for example). But with the specific issue of discussing female behaviors / patterns or female biology, there is a specific backlash against generalizations. In many subs, posts making generalizations are banned.

Whereas in science / legitimate discussion, everyone recognizes the value generalizations bring. Think finance, marketing, the entire world runs on the basic idea that if 85% of people are like X, we go ahead and assume for all intents and purposes that all people are X, and treat people as X until proven otherwise. No one has a problem with this - except for people who use the #1 beta argument tool (great mod post about this tendency) which is to argue stupid semantics / exceptions while ignoring the general truth to the statement.

The softening of language to make it more palatable to morons is part of how great ideas because regular mainstream trash. It's like if a random senator magically came up with a genius healthcare plan / bill and in the process of getting it passed, it winds up looking like the same old shit.

Part of the problem in TRP is this "most women" shit. Women are women, and the women who tend to deviate from typical female tendencies are OBVIOUS exceptions, like masc / butch women, such obvious exceptions that they don't have to be brought up as a footnote just to state "NAWALT". Honestly all that happens is it gives noobies fuel to rationalize how their plate is somehow this rare unicorn who won't cheat on them because she is different.

It's wish fulfillment. To be precise, I'm not saying that their LANGUAGE is BP, I am saying their DESIRE for these exceptions and footnote/semantic murkiness to every single sexual type of issue is BP. They want this type of murkiness rather than clear-cut truths because it allows them to continue to rationalize. In world where plenty of high sex count girls are locking down low sex count betas, it helps everyone continue the charade to keep this idea alive, this idea that there are only soft tendencies in the world, not objective, universal laws.

[–]DaBuddahN4 points5 points6 points 12 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

I agree that there is a huge backlash against generalizations when it comes to human, especially female behavior - it's part of this new-agey bullshit that has gone too far when it comes to appreciating the uniqueness of the human condition.

I fully agree with your last paragraph; truer words have never been spoken. I just come from a very scientific background, so when I see the absolutist language used in this sub when it comes to scientific research in an area where there are no absolutes; it's infuriating.

It would also help if we don't throw around random, hypothetical percentages that are deceptively high just to make a point; especially in marketing. In marketing your target specific audiences; in that audience, maybe 85% of the people are you targeting, which can be anywhere between 1% of the population to who knows how much, have certain tendencies - then you try to coax them to act on those tendencies: "buy our product".

But in general, I agree with the premise you are trying to make. It's just that when dealing with informed people, the absolutist language is a turnoff. I feel like this sub sometimes believes they have discovered the holy grail of human behavior, ahead of you know ... the hundreds of scientists who are paid to do that.

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[–]Endorsed ContributorInvalidity17 points18 points19 points 12 years ago (5 children) | Copy Link

On the contrary though, it does matter. The circumstances in which woman and men can have high sexual counts is much different. Women are constantly approached and propositioned for sex, and so if they have a lot of partners, a high percentage of those males that propositioned them did end up having sex with them (in simpler terms, there's a higher chance that you or any other person that asks them for sex will get it). On the other hand, men have to do the work to get sex, and if a man does end up with a high partner count, he offers something of value to women because they find him attractive and desirable.

These differences aren't sexist, they are facts of life. I don't have a problem with having sex with females who have had high partner counts. I would realistically however not find myself in a relationship with one.

[–]ChokingonTRP0 points1 point2 points 12 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link

Women are constantly approached and propositioned for sex, and so if they have a lot of partners, a high percentage of those males that propositioned them did end up having sex with them (in simpler terms, there's a higher chance that you or any other person that asks them for sex will get it)

I think that's a faulty argument. Imagine there are two women. Woman A is extremely attractive and likes to go to clubs. She has been approached and propositioned for sex 200 times, and has said yes 20 times, which means that there's a 10% chance that she will say yes to a man who propositions her for sex.

Woman B is more average looking and isn't a huge fan of going out. She has been approached and propositioned 15 times. She has said yes 3 times, giving her a 20% chance.

Even though woman A appears to be twice as picky about who she sleeps with, woman B has had significantly fewer partners.

[–]Endorsed ContributorInvalidity1 point2 points3 points 12 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

Yes but in a realistic sense of things, we don't know how much either woman has been propositioned, we only estimate based on their appearances. In the real world, woman B could probably getting more requests because she realizes she has to be sluttier to win over males, or woman A could be very attractive but intimidates every guy she meets.

Circumstances are vital but we can be assured that plenty of females have had guys approach them. All we know is their partner count (assuming they don't put up resistance and freely divulge that information).

[–]ChokingonTRP-1 points0 points1 point 12 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

In the real world, woman B could probably getting more requests because she realizes she has to be sluttier to win over males, or woman A could be very attractive but intimidates every guy she meets.

I'm having some trouble understanding what you're trying to say here. I think you made a typo.

Regardless, in your initial post, it seemed like you were saying that a high partner count is bad because it implies low standards, making the woman unsuited for a relationship. I disagree. I don't think a woman's standards are an issue to be concerned with. Who cares if it's 10%, 50%, or 95%? All that matters is the number.

A high number isn't bad because it likely indicates some larger flaw; it's bad because it's gross. There doesn't have to be any logic or reasoning behind it: I'm just not into girls who have slept with a lot of other guys. I'm also not into fat girls. Does there need to be some kind of logical reasoning for that as well? I just don't want a girl who's already taken her turn on the cock carousel.

AWALT. A slut is just as capable of being in a monogamous LTR as a virgin. All it takes is a man who maintains his frame, stands his ground, and doesn't put up with her shit. No woman is untamable, but plenty are undesirable.

[–]Endorsed ContributorInvalidity1 point2 points3 points 12 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

I'm not implying low standards at all, I'm implying poor decision making.

Who cares if it's 10%, 50%, or 95%? All that matters is the number.

Which is exactly my point. I only brought in percentages as a frame of reference wherein all women have encountered an equally large amount of men.

I'm just not into girls who have slept with a lot of other guys.

And that's a preference and it is perfectly fine. I on the other hand don't mind having sex with such women, although as I have said before, I wouldn't get into any sort of relationship with them.

AWALT. A slut is just as capable of being in a monogamous LTR as a virgin. All it takes is a man who maintains his frame, stands his ground, and doesn't put up with her shit. No woman is untamable, but plenty are undesirable.

A fair statement but do realize that your odds of maintaining a relationship with a woman with a low partner count are much greater than with a woman whose vagina is like a subway rail system with tons of subways going in and out daily.

[–]nekrawulf 0 points1 point2 points 12 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Chick A is placing herself in more situations to be approached. This falsely lowers her percentage.

[–]mrheh5 points6 points7 points 12 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Women base there entire value around appearance and men working to fuck them. Why should I work hard to fuck reformed ho? Now if they didn't base everything in life around "earning" there pussy I might agree with you.

[–]boscoist6 points7 points8 points 12 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

judging people because of their past is pointless

Rapists, Muderers, Drug addicts? Peoples past is the best predictor for their future.

[–]2comment66 points67 points68 points 12 years ago* (3 children) | Copy Link

The women there are hilarious. Telling her she's changed so much even she echos it:

I am not okay with it. I had a very rough freshman year. The freedom of college kinda got to me. And it came out in the form sleeping with guys at parties.

So both my opinion has changed and if i could do it again I would not have done some of those encounters.

So how old is this "changed", more "mature" lady with 20 partner count that won't be doing such things again because she learned? 27? 25? 23? Nope, 20.

And just last month she posted about waking up in a guy's bed she just met and what she should do. Taking the blowjob suggestion to heart.

And then askwomen post that she might like giving blowjobs too much.

And just recently the best clothed selfie where her cleavage was the star attraction. Attention whore or troll or both. If for real, this all new woman will probably slip and fall on 150+ cocks by 25.

When a woman tells you she's changed, pump and dump, and tell her to go change someplace else.

[–]safewinter 14 points15 points16 points 12 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

"The freedom of college was just so confusing" (as dick after dick devastates her vagina).

[–]1rporion220 points221 points222 points 12 years ago (13 children) | Copy Link

Why, if the number is not important, do they lie about it?

[–]puaSenator74 points75 points76 points 12 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

It's a pretty popular and annoying trend across the board when it comes to hamstering. They know what they are doing and the consequences involved, yet jump through tons of hoops to try and deny it exists

[–]seancj133115 points116 points117 points 12 years ago (6 children) | Copy Link

checkmate sluts.

[–]1rporion62 points63 points64 points 12 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link

You think the Mighty Hamster is so easily defeated?

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[–][deleted] 14 points15 points16 points 12 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

be like the hamster, my friend

[–]mechakingghidorah0 points1 point2 points 12 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

The hamster is like the hydra, it always comes back bigger and stronger.

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[–]incraved12 points13 points14 points 12 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

Let's pretend I'm the hamster "it's because of slut shaming"

[–]Endorsed ContributorrebuildingMyself17 points18 points19 points 12 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Double standards!

ew a virgin. Get away from me creeper

[–]nem2k3 points4 points5 points 12 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Because it's not important! Duh! /s

[–]puaSenator105 points106 points107 points 12 years ago (13 children) | Copy Link

If it will ruin his opinion of you, is he a guy you want around?

Heaven forbid men having standards. Obviously the type of man that refuses to date a massive slut is clearly not dating material. All men should be perfectly happy getting tied down once she's off the carousel.

[–]Evil_Patriarch 62 points62 points62 points 12 years ago [recovered] | Copy Link

Standards are for women shitlord, for a man to have standards is misogyny.

Know the difference

This is empowering

This is misogyny

[–]Ghost13131317 points18 points19 points 12 years ago* [recovered] (2 children) | Copy Link

This is empowering

Honestly, I thought everyone knew by now that Taylor Swift is just an A-class slut that can sing.

I feel that just because she's called America's Sweetheart and the incident she had with Kanye West, people give her the benefit of the doubt:

"But omg, u can't say anything about her, Kanye was mean to her"

Please, bitch is crazy. Just go on youtube and look up videos of her at award shows being a cunt. And she's supposed to be a role model for younger girls. Not surprising.

[–]TheInkerman8 points9 points10 points 12 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

I don't know about her actually sluttiness or not, and I can't say I watch award shows, so I don't know anything about her besides her music; but, there is an interesting media dynamic as to why people still talk about her; it's because she maintains the 'pure and innocent' persona.

Contrast this with Miley Cyrus, who (irrelevant or not if she is a slut) has given the impression she is. In terms of media coverage (the gold standard for any celebrity), Miley, and others who adopt her approach, spike in media coverage just after they do their slutty thing, but then it recedes again just as quickly, so they do another slutty thing, which again spikes coverage, but not as much as the first time, before receding, and so and so forth until they're Lindsay Lohan.

Your 'pure and innocent' approach nets you less spikes, so your coverage grows slower, but it grows consistently. Taylor Swift is now well within the upper stratus of that growth and she sure as shit isn't going to break stride.

[–]2 Senior Endorsed Contributorvengefully_yours1 point2 points3 points 12 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

The pure and innocent shit works for them, and allows full victim status even when demonstrably wrong. Second ex use it flawlessly, everyone thinks she is all of that and more, when she is heavily into bdsm, loves to be flogged, whipped, pissed on, and will fuck anyone who shows interest. She can get away with anything because nobody believes she would ever do anything wrong, or even slightly untoward.

Its hilarious since I know who and what she is, but sad because of how easily people are duped.

[–][deleted] 5 points6 points7 points 12 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

"Love, friendship, respect, admiration are the emotional response of one man to the virtues of another, the spiritual payment given in exchange for the personal, selfish pleasure which one man derives from the virtues of another man’s character. Only a brute or an altruist would claim that the appreciation of another person’s virtues is an act of selflessness, that as far as one’s own selfish interest and pleasure are concerned, it makes no difference whether one deals with a genius or a fool, whether one meets a hero or a thug, whether one marries an ideal woman or a slut."

[–]Mintaka73 points4 points5 points 12 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

that username is deep

[–]ioncloud91 point2 points3 points 12 years ago (6 children) | Copy Link

Im new here to the subreddit, but are you saying that its ok to partake of girls on the carousel but they arent a long term prospect for an alpha, and generally will settle for a beta once they hit the wall? So kinda chiding them for being on the carousel but ok with partaking?

[–]a-ko 13 points14 points15 points 12 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

I think you're misunderstanding this subreddit and its posts a little bit.

No matter what people say or do on this subreddit, or disprove of, the reality is that these things happen. Whether you want to call it "cock carousel riding", "women finding themselves", "freedom", or whatever people wish to say it is--it happens.

The subreddit, therefore, exists to enlighten men about this reality and help them maximize their sexual market value (SMV). The reality is we all want to reproduce, to have sex, etc. Nearly every person, male or female. It's ingrained in us as much as having to use the bathroom.

So the posts here aren't saying these actions or "okay" or "not okay", but merely that they are and here's how you, as a male, identify it.

The posts which degrade this behavior by women are merely trying to help men empower themselves and realize they have every right to stand up and say they don't want to enter a relationship with these women.

The rest of it, anti-feminism is more or less identifying how the balance of power of sexual strategy has shifted further into the hands of women. And this subreddit helps men recognize and analyze that this power shift exists and how to not screw themselves over.

It's an incredible thing when a couple gets divorced and little choices the man makes can decide whether or not he ever sees his kids again, and that his wages will be garnished for a couple of decades to raise his children, or that he automatically loses half his worth he's built to a woman whom more or less decided she wanted to be a "stay at home mom".

Whether or not you think these things are right or wrong, the anti-feminist posts here teach men how to better react to these situations.

[–]zpatriarchy4 points5 points6 points 12 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

not everyone is ok with partaking.

you can use red pill knowledge to actually get & maintain a LTR that leads to marriage. there are blogs about that.

being red pill aware means that you will have to employ red pill techniques for your entire life if you do get married. you can not let up or get complacent because this is how things are.

[–]2 Senior Endorsed Contributorvengefully_yours2 points3 points4 points 12 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

I fuck sluts, but I don't marry nor relationship them. I dangle it before them, but they can never quite reach it.

[–]ioncloud90 points1 point2 points 12 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

Do you find yourself losing respect and log term possibilities with a girl who puts out too easily?

[–]2 Senior Endorsed Contributorvengefully_yours1 point2 points3 points 12 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

They all put out easy for me, I like sluts. Less effort and time invested to get what I want. I don't have much respect for most women, and even less for most men. I base respect on merit, and most people have not earned it. I've been married and divorced twice, every female I fuck is a plate, and they know it. Doesn't stop them from wanting my dick.

[–]Humansteaks03124 points125 points126 points 12 years ago (8 children) | Copy Link

The 15th comment is great, "it shouldn't matter. source: a guy who's number is zero". Classic.

[–][deleted] 103 points104 points105 points 12 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link

AKA: I'm desperate and I would still fuck you

[–]mccdizzie22 points23 points24 points 12 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

Get this man an IV!

Acute status thirst.

[–]QQ_L2P8 points9 points10 points 12 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

'Acute dehydration', bud.

[–]mccdizzie0 points1 point2 points 12 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

We're talking about two different thing bromie

[–]HarleyWalker 18 points19 points20 points 12 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link

That's the only type of guy it wouldn't matter to, a beta that couldn't get it anyway. Unfortunately for him he will keep on employing such a pathetic and ineffective sexual strategy.

[–]Dubba 17 points18 points19 points 12 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

It never gets easier watching these "men" clamour for the attention of women who literally think of them as trash.

[–]a-ko 11 points12 points13 points 12 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

I just wanted to respond to your post and say this was the moment I woke up to TRP ideology--when I realized that the women I really wanted thought worse than absolutely nothing of me. It was blatantly obviously and deviously malicious. That you mean absolutely less than nothing in their lives.

It's a situation that is worse than even casual friends and acquaintances. If you see an acquaintance, they will always be glad to see you. But a female "friend" whom you're trying to get with, whom you've done so many things for over the years, will cut you off immediately and with such intent that it's like a hot sword right through the heart with crazy precision.

And this was when I woke up to RP, and this was when I started cutting out those people from my life.

I discovered TRP a couple of years later.

[–]AuctionSniper 74 points75 points76 points 12 years ago* (24 children) | Copy Link

"Former"?

I know this sounds stupid, but people say it's none of his business, but why is it okay to tell your friends (or anonymous people) how many partners you have slept with, but not your boyfriend(s)?

[–]puaSenator72 points73 points74 points 12 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link

It's only not okay when it's inconvenient for them.

I'm sure women have no problem judging a guy as a "former" drug dealer, killer, sociopath, or rapist. But soon as you judge a woman on her past, you're an asshole.

I swear to God that sub is a circlejerk at times. The amount of reassuring rather than giving actual helpful advice, is fucking atrocious. It's like asking a fat person on bodybuilding advice.

[–]widec17 points18 points19 points 12 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Reassuring each other huh

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[–]Endorsed ContributorRedBigMan35 points36 points37 points 12 years ago (14 children) | Copy Link

Once a slut, always a slut...

It's like herpes (which you also get by being a slut). You're stuck with that label for life.

[+]okayawayaccount -32 points-31 points-30 points 12 years ago* (7 children) | Copy Link

This is not necessarily true.

Edit: I'm so beta, I'm responsible for all of reddit being beta. I am still plugged into the matriarchy.

[–]veggie_girl6 points7 points8 points 12 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

Yeah, you're right. Once women hit menopause it starts to become a physical limitation that prevents it. But I don't think we're discussing grannies here.

[–]Endorsed ContributorRedBigMan8 points9 points10 points 12 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

Exactly... when looks fade women aren't reformed sluts, they've just aged out of the prime market.

[–]okayawayaccount 0 points1 point2 points 12 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Oh I was talking about herpes, which you don't necessarily contract through promiscuity

[–][deleted] 7 points8 points9 points 12 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link

If you're going to say that, then you should explain your reasoning behind it.

[–][deleted] 5 points6 points7 points 12 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

I agree with redbigman's sentiment, but with that logic redbigman should explain his reasoning too. Burden of proof and all that.

[–][deleted] 4 points5 points6 points 12 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

RedBigMan's case is well represented by hypergamy and multitude of women unable to control it.

[–]okayawayaccount 2 points3 points4 points 12 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Girl is virgin. Meets guy to settle down with. Guy has herpes but doesn't know since 80% of males do no exhibit symptoms (HSV 2). Monogamous girl gets herpes from said guy.

[+]I_like_to_debate-9 points-8 points-7 points 12 years ago (5 children) | Copy Link

I got herpes from sharing a drink with a friend when I was 12. It really has little correlation to promiscuity.

[–]tim1101 6 points7 points8 points 12 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link

I don't think that's the herpes they're talking about.

[–]colovick0 points1 point2 points 12 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

In medicine they've quit differentiating between the types of herpes... It's all the same thing medically, it just differs on what part of your body gets it

[–]tim1101 1 point2 points3 points 12 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

That's the difference that people care about.

[–]I_like_to_debate1 point2 points3 points 12 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

People should care about whether it is type 1 or type 2. Google the stats, around 70% of people worldwide have type 1, its not a big deal. Type 2 is a bitch though.

[–]I_like_to_debate0 points1 point2 points 12 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

I have HSV-1 on my mouth. You can get type 1 anywhere. I assume they're talking about HSV-2 which is very similar to type 1 but occurs more frequently.

[–]peppepcheerio4 points5 points6 points 12 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link

They don't judge you for it.

[–]AuctionSniper 0 points1 point2 points 12 years ago* (3 children) | Copy Link

And what are you basing this on?

[–]peppepcheerio2 points3 points4 points 12 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

Anecdotal evidenced based on female experience in Western North America.

[–]AuctionSniper -2 points-1 points0 points 12 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

Which don't equal all women?

[–]peppepcheerio0 points1 point2 points 12 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Of course not. Generalizations don't tend to equal all of any subsection of people.

[–]realniggasstandup47 points48 points49 points 12 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link

20 something number?

no big deal. people have sex with other people, casually. that is life. as long as you are clean and safe, then good on ya.

don't tell him if you want (although that may make him think on his own, and it may leave worse image than reality) to, but it really isn't anything to be ashamed of.

source: guy who has slept with zero people

LLmao

this white knight still ain't getting laid no matter how white his armor shines

[–]1BadgerBurger9 points10 points11 points 12 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

Gentlesir Neckbeard of the Fedora Clan, at your service, m'lady. Willst thou soon allow me, a genuine Nice Guy, access to thine ladyparts?

[–]ibuprofiend5 points6 points7 points 12 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

ladyparts

The cringy-est word on the Internet

[–]ITHOUGHTYOUMENTWEAST1 point2 points3 points 12 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Thank god I wasn't the only one that had a full body cringe whenever I read words like that.

[–]nporwal18 points19 points20 points 12 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

AskWomen is a joke sub:

20 something number?

no big deal. people have sex with other people, casually. that is life. as long as you are clean and safe, then good on ya.

don't tell him if you want (although that may make him think on his own, and it may leave worse image than reality) to, but it really isn't anything to be ashamed of.

source: guy who has slept with zero people

[–]silverfox0075 points6 points7 points 12 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Rofl

[–]Endorsed Contributorvandaalen18 points19 points20 points 12 years ago (13 children) | Copy Link

I honestly don't understand why you would want to ask for her amount of whoring.

There is nothing you can gain by knowing it. They are all lying about it. They will at least not include the ones that they think do not count. Blowjobs, holiday sex, meaningless sex, whatever their hamster can come up with.

Also you can not change a thing about it.

That you care so much just tells me, that you still don't get it.

Don't assume a woman is a unicorn until she proves otherwise. Assume that they are all sluts. Period.

[–][deleted] 2 points3 points4 points 12 years ago (8 children) | Copy Link

There is nothing you can gain by knowing it.

A higher premarital partner count is linked to increased rates of divorce, infidelity, and reported marriage dissatisfaction later in life. If you're looking for a casual hook-up, partner count matters little; if you're instead looking for something longer term, it's essential information.

[–]Endorsed Contributorvandaalen6 points7 points8 points 12 years ago (7 children) | Copy Link

As I stated: You will never get to know the real count unless she is even proud of her "achievements". You have to judge otherwise. There is enough knowledge here and in the sidebar material to help you. And also never underestimate your guts.

And as I also stated: Just assume every woman is slut. They will all gladly hopp onto next McAlpha's dick if they get the tingles. AWALT.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point2 points 12 years ago (6 children) | Copy Link

I didn't question that women lie about their number. I questioned that it doesn't matter. It does.

[–]Endorsed Contributorvandaalen3 points4 points5 points 12 years ago (5 children) | Copy Link

Of course it matters how many dicks they rode. But you will never know by asking. So there is nothing to gain by asking. On top even one is too much. Once it's used, it significantly looses value. What difference does it make if it's 20 or 200? None at all.

[–][deleted] 2 points3 points4 points 12 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link

So there is nothing to gain by asking.

You're familiar with the rule of 3, yes? Or the rule of 5? Girls lie, but in my experience you can still get a reasonable approximation of her accrued number. And because it matters, it's worth getting.

What difference does it make if it's 20 or 200? None at all.

Big difference. The latter is obviously either psychologically broken or else an unapologetic hedonist, while the former might have just had a dumb freshman year.

[–]Endorsed Contributorvandaalen2 points3 points4 points 12 years ago* (3 children) | Copy Link

And then what? What can you do with your estimated numbers and your classifications? What does it help you with?

Edit:

while the former might have just had a dumb freshman year.

This just shows that you don't really get it. That's hamster's excuses. Nothing more.

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points3 points 12 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

And then what? What can you do with your estimated numbers and your classifications? What does it help you with?

Depending on how high the number is and what you're comfortable with, you can better determine whether or not a potential LTR candidate is worth your time.

This just shows that you don't really get it. That's hamster's excuses. Nothing more.

Right. Because acknowledging a difference between 10 partners and 100 is rationalization. Fucking please.

[–]Endorsed Contributorvandaalen5 points6 points7 points 12 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

It does not matter. It does not make any difference for your future relationship. Will you know the reasons why it is 10 not 100? Maybe it's only that she didn't find enough men of the value she thought she deserves. Maybe she feared the social stigma of a slut. Whatever. You will never know.

You want to have some kind of measurement to make relatively sure you won't get cheated on. This measurement does not exist because All Women Are Like That.

The only thing you will know for sure is that if the relationship fails you fucked it up. It will always be your fault as it is your responsibility as a man to keep a realitionship running by staying a man.

But if she will have the chace to level up she will. Hypergamy isn't just a theory.

Did you really read all of the sidebar material? If so I would really recommend you read it again.

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points3 points 12 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

It does not matter. It does not make any difference for your future relationship.

As I've already mentioned, a higher premarital partner count correlates with higher levels of divorce, infidelity, and marriage dissatisfaction. The difference between five and fifty is significant and certainly makes a difference.

Will you know the reasons why it is 10 not 100?

Not with absolute certainty, but as an intelligent person, I can make reasonable inferences. Were those ten partners within the context of committed relationships? Fine with me; that's relatively responsible. Were those ten partners one-night stands after a bad breakup within the first two months of freshman year? A mistake, yes, but if it was a blip in the radar followed by a return to sexual conservatism, I'd consider it fine to forgive and forget. Were those ten partners friends with benefits, slept with routinely over a five-year period? That's a big red flag, demonstrating either hedonism or insecurity, and would be impossible to overlook.

Note that in the case of a relatively low partner count, context is important: the number could be explained in a variety of ways. Conversely, it's impossible to justify a total in the triple digits -- by that point, one should conclude the person either does not value her body, is desperate for physical validation, or takes no issue with blind pleasure-seeking. All very unattractive qualities in the future mother of one's children.

This measurement does not exist because All Women Are Like That.

But that's false. Not all women are like that. Not all women cheat- in fact, more men cheat within the context of marriage than women. Rather than dealing in absolutes, it'd be wise to treat marriage as calculated risk, and choose a partner according to a strict set of qualities.

Did you really read all of the sidebar material? If so I would really recommend you read it again.

I have. I find much of it unpalatable. I'm a social conservative, not a RedPiller.

[–]Theophagist5 points6 points7 points 12 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link

This makes me reflect on one of the few qualities my ex wife of years ago had. She was clearly completely honest about her sexual proclivities. She thought I would be impressed and not disgusted by her having over 100 partners, which in her words also includes all the BJ's and guys she let finger her while she was stripping at a party.

Hearing that early in our relationship (and not minding because I'm a freak) I knew in my core that I got the real story from her. In the 9 years we were together she did prove to be rather honest.

[–]Modredpillschool6 points7 points8 points 12 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

The eternal solipsism of the female mind. She thought you'd be impressed with her sexual experience because that is what impresses her.

[–]Theophagist0 points1 point2 points 12 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Interesting. Rings true.

[–]zer0nix0 points1 point2 points 12 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

So, why didn't it work out? I'd like to know what else came with the 'honest freak' package.

[–]toysjoe29 points30 points31 points 12 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link

"How do I approach telling a guy my number if I'm not proud of it?"

Post in /r/AskMen = receive advice/shaming

Post in /r/AskWomen = receive validation

[–]2comment17 points18 points19 points 12 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

Does askmanginas actually shame?

[–]toysjoe14 points15 points16 points 12 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

On the odd occasion yes.

[–]rj8863114 points15 points16 points 12 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

We've stiffened their flaccid spines somewhat.

[–]2johnnight8 points9 points10 points 12 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

askmen logged

http://redditlog.com/snapshots/458641

[–]Rehydrate14 points15 points16 points 12 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

"It's really none of his business".

If I'm sticking one of my most prized possessions inside of you, then you best tell me how many other dicks have been in there before I waste any of my time on a relationship with you.

[–]newbie3hunna15 points16 points17 points 12 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

It comes down to the fact that these sluts have no will power what so ever. I mean their family doesn't want them to whore around, usually neither do their friends. They know it will lower their value and they are taking a huge risk of getting STDs. They just plain don't give a fuck, they think they can get away with it. Simple as that, they think they can ride as many dudes as they want and still be a "good girl" at the drop of a hat.

The issue comes up when they are with a guy who appears high value and has standards. Maybe he has made comments they have picked up on that makes them realize he won't be okay with it. That he will question how the fuck it is even possible without her just fucking at least 10 randoms (spoiler:she did). They realize that telling the truth isn't an option and that in reality the man they want would think they are a disgusting whore if they were honest.

This is when the regret comes in, only after they realize they can't get away with it.

[–]Lipophobicity13 points14 points15 points 12 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

I'm becoming convinced that women on this site drive up Red Pill subs more than we are.

[–][deleted] 27 points28 points29 points 12 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link

Aren't these the same people who think honesty is the core principle in a relationship? I guess it doesn't apply if it negatively effects women, like most things.

[–]safewinter 11 points12 points13 points 12 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

I would be a lot happier with a girl who straight up told me she had been with 20 guys than a girl who claimed 5 and then I had to hear it from someone else.

[–]animea90 2 points3 points4 points 12 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

But you would be even happier if it was 5. She won't pull off that lie now, but after college nobody will know how many guys she has been with.

[–]2 Senior Endorsed Contributorvengefully_yours1 point2 points3 points 12 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Same with a military enlistment, they ride as many as the college chicks.

[–]TRP VanguardVZPurp2 points3 points4 points 12 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Don't expect women to be honest or direct.

[–]1mr_throwz44 points45 points46 points 12 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

TL;DR /r/AskWomen is full of sluts who slept around in their early 20's and are now lying about their past in the hopes of finding LTR. Hamsters gonna hamster.

[–]TRP VanguardVZPurp6 points7 points8 points 12 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

If a girl hasn't had stable relationships and she's in her mid to late 20's, of course she's slept around a lot.

[–]2 Senior Endorsed Contributorvengefully_yours1 point2 points3 points 12 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Could leave out the part about having stable relationships. That hasn't changed in the last three decades and won't any time soon. If they happen to stay in one for most of their twenties and not cheat, as soon as it ends she will make up for lost time.

[–]RackballWilly7 points8 points9 points 12 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

To be brief....Cant turn a hoe into a housewife

TL;DR = Cant Turn a Hoe into a Housewife

[–]TRP VanguardJP_Whoregan8 points9 points10 points 12 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

No such thing as a "former slut".

[–]animea90 30 points31 points32 points 12 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

If someone actually thinks that their number isn't their partners business, then they aren't reformed.

[–]2 Senior Endorsed Contributorvengefully_yours0 points1 point2 points 12 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

My digits and attitude agree with you.

[–]1raceAround1266 points7 points8 points 12 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

My (male) friend's number happened to come out after he got married. He's in his 35+.

He is so much under the thumb now after his wife threw the biggest hamster fit you could ever imagine! She made him go get STD tested, she threatened divorce, the works!

The funny thing is, I happen to know she slept around plenty during her university years, just before she dropped out!

But whatever. He's happy now - in his people carrier and her still belittling him in front of us.

Weird how an alpha can fall.

[–][deleted] -1 points0 points1 point 12 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Weird how an alpha can fall.

Ha, great how a sigma would say hell with this bullshit when they first notice signs of neuoroticism

[–]sway_usa 26 points27 points28 points 12 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

Your employer can judge your loyalty by your work history. A company offering credit can asses your potential by checking your credit history. People can judge your character by your past actions, with regards to charity and deeds. A woman can assess your potential to cheat by your cheating history.

Why do women continue to believe that sexual history is the only type of history that has literally no effect on your future?

[–]TRP VanguardVZPurp10 points11 points12 points 12 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Why do women continue to believe that sexual history is the only type of history that has literally no effect on your future?

They don't, but it would be highly convenient if they could convince others of that.

[–]trudatness 12 points13 points14 points 12 years ago* (3 children) | Copy Link

I thought it was already accepted as fact that women commonly lie about their number.

[–][deleted] 12 points13 points14 points 12 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Keep in mind the audience. Most of /r/TheRedPill's subscribers are men just beginning to unplug. So much to learn.

The real issue is how this sub has circlejerked around itself.

[–]TRP VanguardVZPurp2 points3 points4 points 12 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

Women commonly lie in general, but if it's sexual, they even struggle with simple truths.

[–]trudatness 1 point2 points3 points 12 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

It's something that can be easily lied about. If you look at it from a woman's perspective it makes no sense to tell the truth about it - only to tell the most plausible lie possible.

[–]TheStoneyVibes13 points14 points15 points 12 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

Did you guys see the guy chiming in with his whiteknighting two cents and saying 20 something dudes is no big deal and his source is that he's slept with zero people? Jesus

[–]Redpiller4565 points6 points7 points 12 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Typical Reddit. That's an example of why I can't look at pretty much anything on mainstream Reddit anymore. Socially awkward betas/omegas that comment with the same punch line from 5 years ago.

[–]wakingslowdiver 12 points13 points14 points 12 years ago* (0 children) | Copy Link

if the red pill has taught me anything, it is to never marry a slut

guy is a virgin --'get away from me you creep' 'Lol neckbeard'

girl is a ho -- 'dont judge her shitlord' 'everybody has a past'

LURKERS TAKE NOTE

[–][deleted] 6 points7 points8 points 12 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

"4) it's really not any of his business

5) most mature people understand that as we grow older sometimes we change our attitudes and behaviors and if you truly feel like a different person who wouldn't do the things you've done in the past- just say that. Be like "I used to be a lot more interested in experimenting and casual sex but that's not really my jam anymore." No need to touch on numbers."

Found the slut. Of course its his business. Not only is it possible he doesnt want to be with a massive whore, but also he may be worried about things like STDs, etc.

[–]MockingDead5 points6 points7 points 12 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Lol. You go girl, you should be proud! Except you shouldn't.

[–]Cross_of_Coronado 6 points7 points8 points 12 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

1) it's really not any of his business

2) stop shaming yourself and feeling like you need to apologize for your experiences. even if you regret past experiences, don't project that onto others. if you don't regret these past experiences, what are you apologizing for anyway?

3) think of this as a great litmus test. you don't deserve to be mistreated based on your sexual history and any one who reacts poorly may not be a good match for you.

4) it's really not any of his business

5) most mature people understand that as we grow older sometimes we change our attitudes and behaviors and if you truly feel like a different person who wouldn't do the things you've done in the past- just say that. Be like "I used to be a lot more interested in experimenting and casual sex but that's not really my jam anymore." No need to touch on numbers.

Hamster-Level: Jedi-Master

[–]Endorsed ContributorRedBigMan22 points23 points24 points 12 years ago (11 children) | Copy Link

I typically assume women will lie about partner count and apply the rule of 3. Any number she says should be multiplied by 3.

She says she's fucked 3 guys in her lifetime the odds are she's had 9. If she says she's fucked 20 guys then it's more likely she fucked 60.

[–]love2fap7 points8 points9 points 12 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

this is the 3rd time ive hear this in the last month. i am 27. back in my day, the rule was of 2. things are getting worse.

[–]Endorsed ContributorRedBigMan1 point2 points3 points 12 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

I'm 30-35, so not much older... the truth is the descent into debauchery by women was started in the 70's which was before my time but from all indications things seem to have gone downhill especially since the 90's.

[–]newguyacct14 points15 points16 points 12 years ago (7 children) | Copy Link

I think it is more of a log function. If she says 100, it's probably not 300.

[–]EducatedCavemen8 points9 points10 points 12 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Yeah, but you don't need to multiply when she has fucked 100. You would be stupid to even hug the bitch.

[–]Endorsed ContributorRedBigMan6 points7 points8 points 12 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

Possibly but the rule of 3 works well for relatively normal numbers... when you got some chick who's fucked more dudes that a professional hooker well that's where it breaks down but the reality is when they say numbers that high the chances are they're already disqualified as LTR and maybe even as a plate too.

[–]puaSenator7 points8 points9 points 12 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

At that level the rules are irreverent. It's a fuckton regardless.

[–]ilovemyself1011 point2 points3 points 12 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Yeah I would say the multitudes you use differ when you reach a certain number, 5 =15. She says 20 more like 40.

[–]MrTacticool1 point2 points3 points 12 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

I remember hearing the "Rule of 3" from American Pie 2.

[–]Mintaka72 points3 points4 points 12 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

doesn't make it less true

[–]watersign5 points6 points7 points 12 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

I always thought it was double, but these days, a multiple of 3 isn't so far fetched.

[–]2johnnight4 points5 points6 points 12 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

Sometimes I wonder, if they are trolling people on purpose in that sub. They are giving Feel Good Malicious Advice, like:

1) it's really not any of his business

2) stop shaming yourself and feeling like you need to apologize for your experiences. even if you regret past experiences

Feel Good Validation.

just say that. Be like "I used to be a lot more interested in experimenting and casual sex but that's not really my jam anymore." No need to touch on numbers.

Malicious advice.

[–]Dubba 4 points5 points6 points 12 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

Right? Any guy with standards that hears "I used to be a lot more interested in experimenting and casual sex..." is immediately going to assume 15+ and become justifiably disgusted.

[–]animea90 0 points1 point2 points 12 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

It's even worse. I am going to assume I am the guy she is settling for. Like she was doing things for other guys, but wants a safe guy to settle down with now.

[–][deleted] 4 points5 points6 points 12 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

I made a post on /r/askwomen dealing with this subject just recently. The consensus seems to be:

-if you care about number, you're a misogynist, slut-shamer, and asshole

-there are plenty of good reasons to have casual sex, like... well, just use your imagination!

-past behavior is not predictive of future behavior; get your so-called "studies" out of here

Had this question been flipped around, with a girl worrying about her future husband's partner count, I'm certain the responses would have been wildly different. Men aren't allowed to have standards that conflict with secular status quo.

[–]richardnorth4 points5 points6 points 12 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

All the whores telling her not to tell her number would lose their shit if ever a guy withheld information from them.

[–]csmass 5 points6 points7 points 12 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

These people saying it is ok are pathetic. It is not ok. We biologically are not meant to fuck 20+ partners in our lives, however, it is her choice and if he doesn't want to be with her he doesn't have to be.

[–]SgtBrutalisk0 points1 point2 points 12 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

We biologically are not meant to fuck 20+ partners in our lives

That's a really interesting point, thanks for saying that.

[–]loner74 points5 points6 points 12 years ago* (0 children) | Copy Link

I wonder how she would react if she found out her boyfriend lied when he told her he wasn't a virgin. Oh fuck.

[–]scamper_225 points 12 years ago [recovered] | Copy Link

Yeah, as always, the issue is that men do not learn how to deal with women.

Man wants an answer - were you a slut? He wants to know this to determine if she is worth being with. If she says yes or her history says yes, he very well might leave her.

A woman who is a slut getting asked that question knows he might not take it well and break up with her. However, she believes this is silly as he loves her as is and wants to be with her. Why would she let a fact or history get in the way of a good thing for both him and her? She does not care what he wants or about the truth. She only cares about what makes them happy and she knows what her wants more than he does.

The problem is today's men (and my old self) were led to believe that men and women are the same, when the vast majority are not. Men care more on average about things like truth, justice, virtues, respect... Women care more about comfort, sympathy...

[–]redderthanpurple2 points3 points4 points 12 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Of course she is worried.

We should never look down on a woman who is fulfilling and following her biology. This is what they are. Truly, no woman you meet, greet, fuck, or are in familial relationship with has NOT been through this. The only difference is how well she managed to hide it.

Where as we men are encouraged to flaunt our numbers due to the society we live in and our human biology, they in turn HAVE to hide it. It is their biology. They CANNOT help it. Any woman, young, old, pretty, ugly , fat w/e MUST hide her numbers.

You are a fool of the highest degree if you think the bitch you are courting is never had a dick or never gobbled wilfully and wantonly on a dick. They ALL have by the time they are 18.

If you want a true virgin and cannot handle that kind of bitch who has had 1-3 cocks, you better pursue them when they have not yet reached high school.

The only thing a guy this age can hope for is a girl around 19-22 who has had less than 4 dicks in her. Any less is a freaking unicorn, but then they come with their own side of issues/problems.

In any case, fuck bitches, if they are totally smitten by you and during the dating time you find out (confirm) they have a low NR count and you meet her family which has a strong hold on her. Fuck it, make it an LTR because you will almost never again find that kind of bitch.

[–]RedFlagsAreGood5 points6 points7 points 12 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Did anyone else notice this honest question:

A lot of women on this sub say they wouldn't date a guy who's been with a prostitute. Do you think that's any different?

and completely hypocritical answer?

I'm one of those women.

It's a bit different, because it shows you viewed sex as transactional, broke the law, and potentially enabled sex trafficking or had sex with someone who wasn't completely consenting.

I'm not an advocate of troll posts, but if someone were to go there claiming to be worried that his history of visiting prostitutes will turn off his new girlfriend, I'd understand.

[–]trpfieldreport4 points5 points6 points 12 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

I am not okay with it. I had a very rough freshman year. The freedom of college kinda got to me. And it came out in the form sleeping with guys at parties.

Classic hamster.

"I had the most thrilling year of riding the carousel, but now that I realize it makes me look like a slut, I will remember it as a "tough time" when I was "finding myself". It's not my fault for being an epic slut.. I had too much freedom."

It's so hamster, it's hilarious.

[–]ASK_ABOUT_MY_SPECIAL 12 points12 points12 points 12 years ago [recovered] | Copy Link

It's like a battered wife shelter support group over there without the battered wives.

[–]through_a_ways13 points14 points15 points 12 years ago [recovered] (0 children) | Copy Link

They've been battered, and now they're looking to be wives.

[–]silverfox0073 points4 points5 points 12 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link

"If an explanation that you have changed your view about sex (I assume to match his, else you wouldn't be worried about it) isn't enough for him, then I don't think he'd be worth the trouble. If he doesn't believe you about it, then he obviously has issues."

So if I have a relationship with a NEW person, and they tell me they have been with 30 ppl but that was in the past and have changed (she's 20 btw). I have issues if I don't necessarily trust them? I'm investing time, energy, and money and possibly more, I would like to know what I'm getting into.

[–]Dubba 7 points8 points9 points 12 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

If I was told that in a new would-be LTR I would probably just ask if I could get it for free like the 20 dudes before me instead of investing the time, money, and effort that this girl clearly cannot afford.

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[–]silverfox0070 points1 point2 points 12 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

I know a chick (33) who wouldn't tell me the exact number but acknowledged a range from 50-100. WTF, so essentially close to a 100 people. Her response, in the 16-18 age range, she was a club promoter and had a lot of one night stands. BUT, that is behind her and she just ended a 10 year relationship. -_-

[–]Ghost1313139 points10 points11 points 12 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

It's okay for a women to fuck 20+ guys, but if a guy doesn't want to take a turn with her gonorrhea invested pussy, he's seen as the bad guy? Really?

You can't have it both ways; sluts can ride the cock carousel as long as they want, but don't expect a dude to put his dick in grimy pussy just because you wanna "settle down" with him or want a "relationship" with him. He's allowed to judge, to pick and choose.

Our society has to understand what equality really is and realize that no part of the feminism or " the women's empowerment" movement cares about equality. Only that they should be allowed to dictate how a relationship between a man and women should work. Well fuck that. You can suck a patriarchal dick.

[–]cooltrip2 points3 points4 points 12 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

There is a red pill for healing this disease too. Here you have the recipe:

1º) Pour some water into a teacup.

2º) Add some sugar, because the final compound will taste bitter otherwise, and it'll be difficult to swallow.

3º) Add five teaspoons of "Don't take any effort for her; let her take all the imaginable efforts and begging to deserve your acceptance; make her take much more efforts and begging than she surely took for any other man before, in order to deserve your acceptance; make her solve the problem by herself".

4º) Stir well.

5º) Drink.

6º) Profit.

[–]poopyhitlerballs2 points3 points4 points 12 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

I love all the "no big deal!" "Having 20 different men's cocks inside you is nothing!" comments. Its not like there is a correlation between high numbers of sexual partners and divorce. Oh, and there's this sexually transmitted disease that could possibly compromise your immune system and lead to a horrific wasting death. No big deal!

[–]krystyin3 points4 points5 points 12 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Since you posted about something from /r/askwomen I assume you are now banned. They are very sensitive about things trp posts - they are watching us thinking we are some women movement(wtf).

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points3 points 12 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

Former?

[–]noblepaladin 0 points1 point2 points 12 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Until the end of the month. The comments seem to imply she just finished freshman year, so that's probably how long.

[–][deleted] 3 points4 points5 points 12 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

I honestly wonder how women have the time for this kind of shit. I mean, seriously. I consider myself moderate successful sexually; what I want, I tend to get. With that in mind, I'm nearly 21 and have had 5 partners. As a student, that's all I've had time for. Man, if she spent all the time she spent dick hunting reading instead, I bet she'd be an expert in her field instead of an expert in getting plowed.

[–]colovick0 points1 point2 points 12 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

I normally agree with the sentiments here, but as someone who tritely isn't bothered by how many docks were in a girl before mine, why do you expect higher standards from your partner then yourself, in the case of settling down, which most people end up doing... I go into a relationship or whatnot expecting to not be the best she's ever had in any respect... I expect to be a serviceable replacement or not see her again, but it's hardly likely you'll have the biggest dick, last the longest, give her the most intense orgasm... The disconnect just didn't make logical sense to me... Anyone have an explanation or counter point for me?

[–]LOLunlucky-1 points0 points1 point 12 years ago* (18 children) | Copy Link

I've posted this before, and I know it isn't a popular opinion here but I'm going to give my take on this. Look at my post history if you think I'm whiteknighting, I'm not.

My preference is for girls that have some experience. The talent of lots of girls in bed is pretty poor; give me one who knows what shes doing. I don't want to be teaching someone how to be decent in bed, or one who is afraid of a dick.

I'd much rather be with someone who has been with 30 guys than 3. I'd say anything over 40 is pushing it pretty hard for mid-20s, but 20 is probably about average or maybe even a little bit under average.

I love TRP, and it's done wonders for my outlook on life, but I've never understood the huge deal about girls that have been around the block a bit.

[–][deleted] 20 points21 points22 points 12 years ago (9 children) | Copy Link

We're not saying we won't fuck sluts, we just won't commit to them.

[–]grayman12-4 points-3 points-2 points 12 years ago (8 children) | Copy Link

I don't really understand. What's wrong with committing to one that's ready to settle down and is past her sluttier days?

[–][deleted] 13 points14 points15 points 12 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

I'm guessing you're pretty young. Don't believe what society tells you about past sluts ready to settle down and raise a family. It's just bullshit to try to get you to work your ass off taking care of them, while they get cock/pussy on the side. I know this from experience.

What's wrong with committing to one that's ready to settle down and is past her sluttier days?

That inner slut will always be with her. Sometimes it will take a couple years for it to manifest, but make no mistake, it will.

Think about it. By the time she's with you, odds are she's fucked stronger, taller, better-looking, higher-status males than you. Sooner or later, for one reason or another, you'll stop giving her the 'tingles' (if you ever did), and it's game over.

Use the sluts for what they're good at - pumping and dumping. Let a beta take care of her and any of her children.

[–]TheInkerman6 points7 points8 points 12 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Assuming you do manage to lock one down, your issue now becomes keeping her committed. Basically, the higher numbers of prior sexual partners they have, the higher likelihood they will cheat (this goes for both men and women, and is backed by scientific studies. It's also mentioned in one of the 'Brainwashing' videos in the sidebar IIRC).

The bottom line being, a 'slut' will always be a 'slut'. The amount of game and dread you have to run in order to keep her faithful are astronomical, and not worth the effort.

[–]dropit_reborn10 points11 points12 points 12 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

What's wrong with committing to one that's ready to settle down and is past her sluttier days?

Honestly, nothing at all.

...how do you know she's past her sluttier days?

Hint: "she says so" is not a valid answer.

[–]grayman121 point2 points3 points 12 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

This made it click for me. Thanks.

[–]LOLunlucky8 points9 points10 points 12 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

Yeah, I can actually see a lot of benefit to this, as you have the girl who is great in bed locked down.

The trick is actually locking them down. These women are used to variety, and are used to getting sex a lot.

If you think you can settle one down, congrats, and I hope you do. However, these are also the types of women who are going to split the second things don't go their way, because they know for sure they have other options out there.

[–]grayman121 point2 points3 points 12 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

So essentially you've got to be pretty damn high value yourself.

[–]Misterlulz4 points5 points6 points 12 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

For me, I can't think of anything worse than the mother of my child having a promiscuous past... Think of someone like Snookie from Jersey Shore. Her kid's going to find out about all the shit she did when she was younger and I personally would not want my child's mother to be like that.

[–]SgtBrutalisk1 point2 points3 points 12 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

The more sex women have, the harder it is for them to bond emotionally the next time they have sex. That's why they say that whores have dead eyes - another cock in their cockhole means absolutely nothing to them.

You can marry a slut, but she will not be happy with you because she will pine for alphas from her glory days.

[–][deleted] 3 points4 points5 points 12 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

Your argument of "I don't mind sluts because they are better in bed" is very weak because:

1) Most girls are terrible in bed, high sex-count or not there will be little difference in competence 2) It is trivially easy to teach a girl to satisfy you the way you like it, 4-10hrs tops.

You are entitled to your opinion and its just a preference so you don't have to argue or justify it, but you tried and imo fail to do so.

[–]astronautwerewolf1 point2 points3 points 12 years ago* (0 children) | Copy Link

I disagree. In my experience more men equals a higher likelihood of being better in bed in general, although there are exceptions. Sluts tend to be more free with themselves, this equals better in bed. Plus I'm not willing to spend 4 plus hours teaching a woman anything. Like you said, its an objective thing that all boils down to anecdotal evidence.

[–]Glenbert1 point2 points3 points 12 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link

Yeah, all my experiences with low partner count women over the age of 25 is that they are incredibly boring. If I'm their number 3 or 4 I can pretty much just forget about ever getting a blowie from them. Then outside the bedroom they are alternately shaming me for my 20+ count of telling me about the apartment that Daddy is going to rent for her.

That said 30-40 is ridiculous in its own right and leads to a whole host of different problems. I've found that the 10 count is about my sweet spot. I know the "science" suggests that those girls are also bad LTR prospects. But I'd rather take my chances with that demographic than die of boredom.

[–]LOLunlucky1 point2 points3 points 12 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

30-40 is average these days, 10 is still considered a "good girl." I hear what you are saying, 30-40 is a lot, but good luck finding any that have significantly less. Not saying its right, but this is the world we live in..

[–]Glenbert0 points1 point2 points 12 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

I'd buy average (the mean), because you have women out there who have fucked 1,000s of guys who pull the stat up. Not the median though.

Nevertheless, I think you might join me in wondering just where the hell these guys are actually finding these <3 unicorns? My guess is that they are either being lied to or said unicorn is only a few months away from "finding herself."

[–]LOLunlucky0 points1 point2 points 12 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

I'm talking median. I know absolutely zero girls (who aren't hugely gross) who have ever told me their number and are below 20. I'm talking sluts, church girls, rich, poor, black, white, asian, hispanic, educated, uneducated- doesn't matter. I think you'd be very surprised. Observe what you see at schools, bars, clubs, restaurants, parties etc. The rule is that if you see a halfway decent looking girl anywhere, she is getting sex from somewhere. The ones that aren't are the exception. For someone below say 30, male or female, 20 partners is actually probably on the low side of average sans outliers.

[–]1iluminatiNYC-1 points0 points1 point 12 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

In terms of bed, I can go either way. I don't mind sluts, but I'm not crazy about them either. And I'm with you on the experience thing as well. Some women (like some men, keeping it real) just don't want to learn shit. A decent body count is a sign that they're at least willing to try shit.

That said, there's also a reason behind the count, and you want to know the scoop before proceeding. Play it smart and all is well.

[+]Realworld-7 points-6 points-5 points 12 years ago (5 children) | Copy Link

TIL: I've had 20+ women so apparently I'm a male slut. Or does that only apply to women?

[–][deleted] 20 points21 points22 points 12 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Only applies to women, the old lock and key analogy. Almost any woman can lock down 20 in a month if they wanted to.

[–][deleted] 11 points12 points13 points 12 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

The big difference(if that number is true) is are you ashamed of it and if your wife/girlfriend ask you will you lie to her. Girls lie about their number because it makes them look easy. While guys embrace their number. A girl who fucked over 20+ guys is easy and a guy who fucked 20+ girls is (lack of a better term ) a champion because it shows that he have social proof . Yes I know that it is a double standard but nature isn't equal or even just. Nature is nature

[–][deleted] 4 points5 points6 points 12 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

You're still a man whore. But for us it's a badge of honor. Look at George Clooney. That man is more than likely in the triple digits. But he's still highly desirable. Take a female celebrity, such as Miley Cyrus. She's hot, has money, but she is viewed as a whore. Sure, guys will fuck her. But good luck finding a Red Pill guy or even some an upper beta to date her.

[–][deleted] 5 points6 points7 points 12 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Did they all peg you with strap-ons lenghthy enough that you performed oral on them while getting rammed from behind?

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[–]cascadecombo5 points6 points7 points 12 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

movements try to change things, all most people try to do here is adapt to how the game is now and take advantage of what we can while we can.

[–]1iluminatiNYC-3 points-2 points-1 points 12 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

I'm going to be controversial here and say partner counts are overrated. I'm not saying they don't matter at all, but they are a symptom, not a cause. A high number count requires that you should ask more questions about a woman, but the same issues that lead to a high number count could just as well lead to a low number count as well. Pay attention people. :)

[+]ploder-49 points-48 points-47 points 12 years ago (12 children) | Copy Link

Correct response to "what's ur number of partners" is "none of your business."

[–]newguyacct54 points55 points56 points 12 years ago (9 children) | Copy Link

Correct response to "none of your business" is "no LTR until honesty is there".

She can remain a plate who's not going to get promoted.

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[–]sway_usa 4 points5 points6 points 12 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link

For some reason, my last 5 have given me their number unsolicited (and also unreciprocated).

I'm not sure how I am getting this to happen.

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[–]sway_usa 0 points1 point2 points 12 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Only one of them, I suspect, was doing that. But we had been hooking up on and off for a year, she tries to pretend like she's not catching feelings but then texts me at random times throughout the night.

[–]LOLunlucky1 point2 points3 points 12 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

I had that happen to me too, I'm not picky about numbers so it didn't matter to me, but it was interesting how she seemed to want me to know. We were talking about an acquaintance who is 25 and has slept with 200+ guys, my GF at the time threw it out there (I think) to show me that her number was only a fraction of this.

[–]2comment2 points3 points4 points 12 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

This.

[–][deleted] 23 points24 points25 points 12 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

This is why you always give off a sex positive vibe. Reel them into feeling comfortable with telling you their real number.

[–]Modified_Hackware 19 points20 points21 points 12 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

This is an underrepresented idea which I've used to good effect.

[–][deleted] 17 points18 points19 points 12 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Just did that yesterday, she realized later it wasn't a good idea and "cried herself to sleep".. to late I know your secrets

[–]1 Endorsed Contributormordanus17 points18 points19 points 12 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Have you ever cheated on your SO? A. None of your business

Have you ever been married? A. None of your business.

Do you have any kids? A. None of your business.

My problem with a stupid answer like that is, if it is to be anyone's business of how whorish a woman was in her past it should be her SO's business. Anyone that says otherwise is just trying to justify the mindset that there should be no consequences for past behavior. And that shit doesn't work anywhere else.

[–][deleted] 11 points12 points13 points 12 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Which is exactly the honest, open response a healthy human being wants to hear when considering a long-term relationship from their partner. By your logic, a woman who gives nothing of her true self to her partner deserves love? This is why millennial girls can't even look a strong man in the eye, and can't risk a true smile when photographed, responding with distorted duckfaces and mileytongues. They're emotional retards, yet their sense of entitlement is enormous.

Thank fuck they're too spergy to breed.

[+]MoldyClownSuit-19 points-18 points-17 points 12 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

Why does it matter? I shouldnt care how many men a woman has slept with just like women shouldn't care how many woman I've slept with. It's actually not important information to anyone at all..

[–]p3ndulum9 points10 points11 points 12 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

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