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Feminist favourite, Canadian Prime Minister Trudeau, learns the hard way that-even if youre a White Knight-somewhere, somehow, there'll always be an offended feminist who can take you down, as he's accused of 'groping'. Ahhh, the irony.....

Rethgil

July 6, 2018
1116 upvotes
/r/MensRights
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/justin-trudeau-groping-female-reporter-2000-canada-prime-minister-a8434286.html
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Title Feminist favourite, Canadian Prime Minister Trudeau, learns the hard way that-even if youre a White Knight-somewhere, somehow, there'll always be an offended feminist who can take you down, as he's accused of 'groping'. Ahhh, the irony.....
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Rethgil

Upvotes 1116
Comments 174
Date July 6, 2018 9:57 PM UTC
(8 years ago)
Subreddit Posted in /r/MensRights
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"A mum who had sex with her 15-year-old son because he seduced her has avoided jail." "HE seduced HER"- so now a CHILD is to blame for his FIFTY year old mother raping HIM?? Because he is male? Can you BELIEVE the double standards boys & males now face??!!

5008 upvotes
December 12, 2018
/r/MensRights

Yes! Friends star David Schwimmer slams #MeToo 'We shouldnt conflate all claims-What concerns me is the disregard of facts, context & evidence. In this climate, condemnation is merciless. This is why the ‘witch hunt’ phrase is used'

2386 upvotes
April 11, 2018
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Two women murder young male "because it was something they'd always wanted to try doing". As usual, news reports keep it off the front page, and bury it in sub sections. Imagine the reporting if the genders were reversed?

2263 upvotes
February 28, 2018
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Male politician labelled 'pervert' in national paper-Because he disagreed with feminists who demand a new law SPECIFICALLY giving automatic prison sentences for men taking 'Upskirting' photos. Today, they hung panties on his home "to shame him". The reality of free speech under feminism

2241 upvotes
June 18, 2018
/r/MensRights

National crisis-Free tests for biggest killer of men, Prostate cancer, are being scrapped to 'save government money'. Imagine the outcry if they scrapped tests for breast cancer for women instead?! THIS is the REAL 'Equality gap'.

1895 upvotes
November 30, 2019
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The Green party officially announces a huge change, tells people "DON'T give any money to charity or men anymore-give it ONLY to WOMEN instead". Can we now admit the modern Left are the worst man haters & feminists? And I write this as a shocked & stunned Left winger.

1787 upvotes
March 4, 2018
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Woman steals $2,000 from man but its 'funny' because she is a feminist & according to this website 'it serves him right for coming on to her'

647 upvotes
December 2, 2018
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Even Stephen Fry himself has now been attacked for today daring to condemn Campus safe spaces, trigger warnings & the war on free speech: "Even the word rape is now considered a rape... ...just grow up". Is this a small victory against feminist extremism?

582 upvotes
April 12, 2016
/r/MensRights

Comments

[+]ddiogenesofsinope1 points 8 years ago [recovered] (3 children) | Copy Link

'And then they came for me, and there was no one left to speak for me'

[–]peterparker6 25 points26 points27 points 8 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

Haha fuck this guy, he isn't qualified to run a food cart.

[–]Shippoyasha 0 points1 point2 points 8 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

The lusty boos he gets in Canadian hockey games shows how popular he is

[–]peterparker6 0 points1 point2 points 8 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Rhonda Rhousey VS Justin Trudeau, come on UFC let's make this shit happen.

[–]Electroverted 265 points266 points267 points 8 years ago (16 children) | Copy Link

but insists he did nothing wrong

Oh, this works now?

[–]5th_Law_of_Robotics 44 points45 points46 points 8 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Denying your guilt is one of the tactics rapists use to double victimize women.

[–]doklaan 45 points46 points47 points 8 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Love it.

[–]GYN-k4H-Q3z-75B 64 points65 points66 points 8 years ago (12 children) | Copy Link

He says he did nothing wrong but apologized. I'm actually starting to believe he did grope her. If you did nothing wrong, don't apologize.

[–]MistaMayfair 56 points57 points58 points 8 years ago (10 children) | Copy Link

Tbf, he is Canadian, they apologise for everything anyway

[–]Wilreadit 27 points28 points29 points 8 years ago (9 children) | Copy Link

But feminists say all men ARE rapists...so

[–][deleted] 15 points16 points17 points 8 years ago (6 children) | Copy Link

I forgot my nightly rape last night, fuck what do I do now?

[–]Wilreadit 5 points6 points7 points 8 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link

You rapist man. Off to the jail you go.

[–][deleted] 2 points3 points4 points 8 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link

This country is rape culture, its my privilege, want to see me male privilege card?

[–]Wilreadit 4 points5 points6 points 8 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

There are only 2 cards:

  1. Race card: for use by Blacks, Mexicans and Jews.

  2. Gender card: for use by females and transgenders.

[–]Neko404 0 points1 point2 points 8 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

What about the 42 other genders?

[–]Wilreadit 0 points1 point2 points 8 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

As a helisexual myself, I am sorry for coming through as a bigot.

[–]Rethgil[S] 0 points1 point2 points 8 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

I think you'll find, if you check your genitalia, youre not actually a man and are female.

That is why you didn't rape anyone last night.

Obviously if you were a man would would have raped

[–]TheOriginalChode 6 points7 points8 points 8 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

Sorry!

[–]Wilreadit 3 points4 points5 points 8 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

No sorry...

[–]theLucror 0 points1 point2 points 8 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Wait, you've never said sorry to someone even though you didn't do anything, just as a courtesy? That seems not too weird.

[–]tehDemonseye 19 points20 points21 points 8 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

You know who insisted he did nothing wrong ? Hitler

[–]mikesteane 405 points406 points407 points 8 years ago (30 children) | Copy Link

"I am confident, I did not act inappropriately.”

Not for you to judge, old boy. You handed the power of judgement over to the other sex some while back, remember?

[–]5th_Law_of_Robotics 65 points66 points67 points 8 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

If she feels assaulted you are guilty. Anything less is rape culture.

[–]DevilishRogue 52 points53 points54 points 8 years ago (27 children) | Copy Link

The schadenfreude here is so sweet because it is so deserved :-)

[–]sweet-banana-tea 16 points17 points18 points 8 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link

What did he do?

[–]DevilishRogue 69 points70 points71 points 8 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

He said women don't lie about having been sexually assaulted before being accused of sexual assault by a woman.

[–]honkey-ponkey 10 points11 points12 points 8 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Link please

edit - nevermind found further down in thread.

[–]antilopes -1 points0 points1 point 8 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

He is not being accused by a woman.
He is being accused by a man with a long history as a politically motivated dirt-digger, who has come across something from 18 years ago.
The woman wants nothing to do with any of this, it is all being driven against her will by a man she has nothing to do with.

[–]Rethgil[S] 3 points4 points5 points 8 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Maybe future budding young Trudeau's and white knights in waiting will now think twice before taking the feminist pleasing path.

[+]malmn1 points 8 years ago [recovered] (21 children) | Copy Link

Your a sick person for enjoying what he going through.

[–]Endless_Summer 24 points25 points26 points 8 years ago (5 children) | Copy Link

People don't always get what they deserve, good or bad.

He's actually getting what he deserves so people should be happy about it.

[+]malmn1 points 8 years ago [recovered] (4 children) | Copy Link

He does not deserve it. Your a shitty human being for believing that.

[–]Endless_Summer 7 points8 points9 points 8 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link

That's like saying a criminal doesn't deserve punishment.

[+]malmn1 points 8 years ago [recovered] (2 children) | Copy Link

That’s messed up. He’s not a criminal and he does not deserve any punishment. You just want bad things to happen to Trudeau because don’t like him. Very petty, weak and sad.

[–]grandmasbroach 5 points6 points7 points 8 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

He's a criminal by his own standards...

Personally, I don't like him based on his actions. He has said over and over to always believe women in the case of sexual assault or harassment. If I had to make a wager, I'd say the prime Minister saying something like that, would have some form of levity in court, and has caused innocent men to be sent to prison. Meaning, they are more likely to convict based on the word of someone else, and their word alone. Now, the exact thing he said we were all supposed to do, apparently doesn't apply to him? There is a word for that, and it's a hypocrite.

He is telling people to do and act a certain way. Then, doesn't apply it to himself. I don't hate the guy. But, he is a giant hypocrite and it is at the least note worthy because of the irony.

[–]Endless_Summer 4 points5 points6 points 8 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

What's an analogy?

Shoo troll

[–]Cain592 16 points17 points18 points 8 years ago (13 children) | Copy Link

Fuck Trudeau he got what eh deserved after basically proclaiming women don't lie about sexual assault lol. Get a taste of your own medicine

[+]malmn1 points 8 years ago [recovered] (12 children) | Copy Link

Your are wrong. He does not deserve it. Only a person with a warped and evil mind would thinks this.

[–]Endless_Summer 5 points6 points7 points 8 years ago (9 children) | Copy Link

Only a person with a warped and evil mind would thinks this.

That a hypocrite ruining the lives of others should receive the same punishment he's forced on others? You sure about that?

[+]malmn1 points 8 years ago [recovered] (8 children) | Copy Link

He’s not a hypocrite. You are being disingenuous when you call him that. And running the lives of others? That’s such a really fucked up view of things.

[–]Endless_Summer 5 points6 points7 points 8 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link

Yes. Others accused cannot simply apologize for committing a crime, like he did, and just move on.

[+]malmn1 points 8 years ago [recovered] (3 children) | Copy Link

??? The woman involved said she doesn’t want to discuss it or do anything about it. Case closed.

[–]Endless_Summer 0 points1 point2 points 8 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

According to who? Him? The CBC that covered it up for months?

Get real. Do the crime, do the time. He's a hypocritical piece of shit who deserves punishment. He doesn't get to decide that after he sexually assaulted someone.

[–]DevilishRogue 4 points5 points6 points 8 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

How is he not a hypocrite? He said women don't lie about this. So either he is a sexual abuser or a lying hypocrite himself. That isn't disingenuous, it's 100% accurate. And he has foisted this onto other innocent men who have been falsely accused so it is justice that he now faces the same himself.

[+]malmn1 points 8 years ago [recovered] (1 child) | Copy Link

really fucked up. you need to take a step back and look at the big picture...

[–]DevilishRogue 0 points1 point2 points 8 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Go on...

[–]kronox 1 point2 points3 points 8 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

He shouldn't have spouted nonsense about women never lying about sexual assault, they do lie and it isnt uncommon. This is karma.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point2 points 8 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Hey, I understand you dude. But let's hope that this event results in change in how we judge guilt.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point2 points 8 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Obvious troll or total Soy Boy

[–]SwampSloth2016 7 points8 points9 points 8 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Yeah, but, that was when it didn’t impact me. Now it’s totally different. Right? Right?

[–]Xn0v1kX 151 points152 points153 points 8 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

No no justin. Its not what YOU feel about the encounter, its what THEY FEEL about the encounter 😂 hows it feel justin.

[–]Rethgil[S] 354 points355 points356 points 8 years ago (11 children) | Copy Link

He claims 'the woman involved could have come away from the encounter with a different interpretation of what happened.'.....

B-b-b-but...I thought he said we must ALWAYS believe a women's claims...?

White Knights and feminists. Learning the hard way one day at a time...

[–]kevingrumbles 139 points140 points141 points 8 years ago (5 children) | Copy Link

Gotta love it when they turn on their own.

[–][deleted] 122 points123 points124 points 8 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link

I'm Canadian, and this couldn't be better. Stoked.

[–]Draggonzz 56 points57 points58 points 8 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

Same. Loving this.

[–]Dragonly6000 8 points9 points10 points 8 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Yep.

[–]Rethgil[S] 0 points1 point2 points 8 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Is anyone selling t-shirts?

I feel someone needs to sum this up in a T-shirt or meme....

[–]Rethgil[S] 0 points1 point2 points 8 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

And they always do.

Sooner or later.

[–]5th_Law_of_Robotics 51 points52 points53 points 8 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link

Prime Minister Justin Trudeau said "sexual harassment is a systemic problem" and "when women speak up, we have a responsibility to listen to them and to believe them," in brief remarks on Sunday.

His opinion literally means nothing. She said it, he's guilty. Denying that is rape culture.

He really painted himself in to a corner here.

[–]karatdem 8 points9 points10 points 8 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

He gives money to feminists, so they'll let it go. You just wait.

[–]Rethgil[S] 2 points3 points4 points 8 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

I think they'll also let it go because so many of them fancy him and find him physically attractive. Led by their emotions, remember?

[–]5th_Law_of_Robotics 5 points6 points7 points 8 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

The lefts answer to those Evangelical conservatives who insist on impossible standards for the other guy then turn a blind eye when their candidate gets caught banging a dozen underage male prostitutes while high on meth.

[–]Rethgil[S] 1 point2 points3 points 8 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

That's the problem with getting into bed with crazy feminists to get you into power (pun intended).

Sooner or later, crazy will turn on you too.

[–]Nergaal 69 points70 points71 points 8 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Mr Trudeau - who previously said he has zero tolerance for sexual harassment

he claimed he “didn’t remember any negative interactions"

#believeallwomen unless they accuse metoo

[–][deleted] 99 points100 points101 points 8 years ago (5 children) | Copy Link

Why isn't he stepping down? Or does he think that the standards he has advocated for don't apply to himself?

[–]Mode1961 52 points53 points54 points 8 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

Even our CBC sat on this story for months, it is different when it is a popular liberal, especially boy wonder.

He won't be taken down by this, which shows the hypocrisy of METOO.

[–]Rethgil[S] 1 point2 points3 points 8 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

I think its more to do with him being a declared feminist than it is him being a declared liberal.

[–][deleted] 14 points15 points16 points 8 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

His a liberal. He's like Teflon in Canada.

[–]WhamburgerWFries 7 points8 points9 points 8 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

I thought he should be fired before it ever gets to court, and he should be flamed all over social media, as that’s been par for the course lately.

[–]Rethgil[S] 1 point2 points3 points 8 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

So can an average man now cite the example of Trudeau not being suspended or sacked if he gets accused of something by a woman now?

[–]sixtynineningbeavers 65 points66 points67 points 8 years ago (8 children) | Copy Link

Feminism is so toxic

[–]Wilreadit 31 points32 points33 points 8 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

White knight ism is worse

[–]75percent-juice 18 points19 points20 points 8 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Nah, it's the people that are toxic. Feminism is just a means to that end for them.

[+]honkey-ponkey -10 points-9 points-8 points 8 years ago (5 children) | Copy Link

The extreme part of any ideology is toxic. As an outsider to this sub, reading the comments in this thread gives me the feeling THIS place is toxic.

[–]AyyItsDylan94 9 points10 points11 points 8 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

Really? I feel like the people here just point out bs more than anything. More common sense than toxicity.

[–][deleted] 3 points4 points5 points 8 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Common sense is toxic /s

[–]grandmasbroach 4 points5 points6 points 8 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Can you point to a specific comment that has been upvoted to any degree? Otherwise, you are just concern trolling and can fuck right off.

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points3 points 8 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

It's not the extreme part of feminism that which stands for presuming of guilt... It's the moderates.

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points3 points 8 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

The extreme part of any ideology is toxic.

And those extreme feminists are running the show now so...

[–]Male_Positive 29 points30 points31 points 8 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

A feminist Don Quixote or the Pope of Grope? I want to see him cry like a disgraced televangelist. :-)

[–]FubukiAmagi 30 points31 points32 points 8 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

When you make the rules so authoritarian that you get caught breaking them yourself.

Listen and believe, Trudeau, listen and believe. After all, it's 2018!!!

[–]Wilreadit 26 points27 points28 points 8 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

The New Feminist law is clear:

All men are rapists, we just have not figured out who you raped.

[–]Whisper 81 points82 points83 points 8 years ago (14 children) | Copy Link

Women, collectively, can never be appeased.

That is because what of this feminist bullshit really is... is just the weaponization of the male protective instinct towards women.

When you take women playing the victim card extremely seriously, you make it more effective against you, not less. And therefore some woman will always eventually play it, for cash and prizes.

The only defense is to laugh at women who attempt to play the victim card.

[–]serbarde 11 points12 points13 points 8 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

So damn true!!

[–]Rethgil[S] 0 points1 point2 points 8 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

just the weaponization of the male protective instinct towards women

To put it another way...

'Feminists have weaponized feelingz.'

[–]Whisper 2 points3 points4 points 8 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

This is true, but it's not primarily women's feelings that feminists have weaponized, but men's.

Human men are hardwired on a evolutionary level to protect and care for women, just as women are hardwired to defer to and obey men. But these instincts can be at least partially suppressed.

What feminism has done is fight tooth and nail to maximally suppress women's deferential behaviour while maximally exploiting male protective behaviour. In fact, in a greater sense, this is all feminism is or ever was: this tactic, applied to anything women, or a woman, happens to want.

The reason men resent this is that protectiveness of someone who won't listen to you is just as self-destructive as obedience to someone who doesn't care for you.

And this, in turn, is why the men's right movement is failing and always will unless it undergoes a sea change... because, much as it despises feminism, it has adopted portions of the feminist model; it points out and seeks to invoke sympathy and understanding for problems faced by men. This was how feminism managed to exploit the male protective instinct towards women, but there is no corresponding protective instinct towards men. Complaints or appeals for sympathy will always fall on deaf ears.

If the men's rights movement wishes to be successful, it must abandon this tactic, and instead address itself to men alone, persuading and teaching them to suppress their protective instincts and look out for themselves, instead of being vulnerable to feminist manipulation.

[–]Planner_Hammish 0 points1 point2 points 8 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

And enter Red Pilled Men.

[+]Igot2phonez -38 points-37 points-36 points 8 years ago (9 children) | Copy Link

Fuck off red piller. God damn it. I complain about red pillers and I just get gaslighted.

[–]IncrediBro13 1 point2 points3 points 8 years ago (6 children) | Copy Link

It's "red pillar"! And yes, it's magnificent.

[–]Igot2phonez -2 points-1 points0 points 8 years ago (5 children) | Copy Link

Why are you guys conflating feminists with women?

[–]IncrediBro13 2 points3 points4 points 8 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link

Did you just assume my gender!?!?

[–]Igot2phonez 0 points1 point2 points 8 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

I didn’t even reference your gender silly.

[–]grandmasbroach 2 points3 points4 points 8 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

Why are you "guys" conflating women with feminism. Was your exact words. Probably the words guys, as that is a pronoun that applies to men.

[–]Igot2phonez 0 points1 point2 points 8 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

You’re right

[–]grandmasbroach 1 point2 points3 points 8 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Why are you assuming people's gender?

[–]Aeponix 1 point2 points3 points 8 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

How is it red pill to say that if you give a group of people something to take advantage of, some of the unscrupulous people in that group will take advantage of it?

Women are human. Of course some of them will be assholes.

The only issue I have with the parent comment is the last line. We should take female victims just as seriously as every other kind of victim, and thoroughly investigate to make sure they actually are a victim before condemning their alleged attacker. Presumed innocence should be true of both sides going in to an investigation.

[–]Igot2phonez 1 point2 points3 points 8 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Like you said, the last line is problematic. That part and his post history is a big red flag.

I agree with your first paragraph but I doubt that’s what he meant. You’re giving him the benefit of the doubt and tbh it’s naive given his post history.

Women, collectively, can never be appeased.

To see this as anything other than sexist is naive. It’s a sweeping generalization. It’s not “, some of the unscrupulous people” . That’s just disingenuous. Swap the genders and pretend it’s a radical feminist saying “Men, collectively, can never be appeased.” and suddenly it would get downvotes.

[–]Darthwilhelm 10 points11 points12 points 8 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Welp I can’t reset the clock if it’s always at zero

[–][deleted] 20 points21 points22 points 8 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link

Wow the media really jumped on this story quickly, didn't they?

[–]Mode1961 4 points5 points6 points 8 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link

What????

Are you aware that the CBC had this story MONTHS ago and never did anything with it.

[–]littlefilms 28 points29 points30 points 8 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

Whoosh?

[–]deedoedee 6 points7 points8 points 8 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

Indeed.

[–][deleted] 6 points7 points8 points 8 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

giggles

[–]LarryKleist711 11 points12 points13 points 8 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Fuck him.

[–]pizzagroom 8 points9 points10 points 8 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

That's one packed headline. I wounder what Trudeau'll take away from this fiasco as it relates to feminism.

[–]Allevil669 89 points90 points91 points 8 years ago (10 children) | Copy Link

Ok, let me just make myself clear... I don't like PM Trudeau. Not one bit... But, no one should have to go through this.

Also, this attack seems to be politically motivated... So, when does attacks like this become terrorism?

[–]Jesus_marley 113 points114 points115 points 8 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

Truth be told, regarding the allegation, he deserves the exact same assumption of innocence as anyone else when an allegation is made. That said however, Trudeau has set a strong precedent within his government to remove party members based on nothing more than allegations. whether we agree with that is irrelevant to the larger story that Trudeau, now when faced with his own allegation, is shucking and jiving around the fact that he won't step down. The issue is the blatant hypocrisy he is showing when it comes to the virtue signalling when it is someone else's career at stake, but not his own. "Rules for thee but not for me".

[–]Mr_Civil 11 points12 points13 points 8 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

That and the fact that I heard about this months ago from the more conservative leaning but still mainstream newspapers, but the left wing papers/media refused to mention it until just the other day.

In fact, I read an article about a couple weeks ago about this fact in particular. I wonder if that was what it took to force their hand.

I wouldn't wish this on anyone either, but the hypocrisy of it all is news worthy on its own.

[–]deedoedee 29 points30 points31 points 8 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

He helped create the environment that shit like this flourishes in. He should go through it, because he made many others to go through it.

[–]ThatDamnedRedneck 38 points39 points40 points 8 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

When the right learned that they can use them too.

[–]TheMythof_Feminism 24 points25 points26 points 8 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

no one should have to go through this.

If anyone deserves this, it's Trudeau, after all he is being judged by the same metric he used to callously judge other men.

Oh of course I don't believe he did anything wrong, and of course I am against witch hunts, I would rather they not happen at all, but this guy had no compunction over destroying other men's lives, I have zero sympathy for him now that the witch hunt is stringing HIM up.

[–]serbarde 2 points3 points4 points 8 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

Indeed! Feminists have done a lot of harm to men, but ALWAYS with the help of other men (the so called white knights), without whom they would have never succeeded! JT is one of them.

[–]TheMythof_Feminism 4 points5 points6 points 8 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Absolutely.

Someone did a fairly reasonable equivalent of successful SJW/feminist acts to combustion. Combustion needs oxygen. heat and fuel.

SJW/feminists need feminism, white knights and general public support. If any of these three elements are missing, they will fail.... and we're seeing two of the three components rather shaky as of late.

[–]v574v 5 points6 points7 points 8 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

I don’t like him either and as far as ‘no one should...” - he has already taken action against other people in his party for these types of unfounded allegations so he’s been an active participant in the witch hunt and I for one am not very sympathetic to a witch-finder general being put to his own test.

I also wasn’t a fan of Patrick Brown but I sympathized with him and his plight even though I wasn’t sad to see him out of the top spot - that was bullshit but Trudeau is poetic justice.

[–]5th_Law_of_Robotics 4 points5 points6 points 8 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

The problem is he immediately turned on other men facing almost identical accusations.

[–]bloodshot_eyes 3 points4 points5 points 8 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

To lose ones job over an 18-year-old hazy accusation is reducto ad absurdum of the highest order to the poundmetoo hysteria.

Unfortunately, we're dealing with a bunch of absurd hystericals, who are incapable of recognizing that their dogma will inevitably lead to a McCarthy-esque inquisition.

[–]FreeBroccoli 7 points8 points9 points 8 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

The more of a feminist ally the man is, the more fame controversy can be generated by accusing him of something.

[–]bbshabob 8 points9 points10 points 8 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Admits apologising

Insists he did nothing wrong

ugh

[–]5th_Law_of_Robotics 5 points6 points7 points 8 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Here he is saying we should always believe the accuser in a very similar case where the man was forced to step down.

https://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/trudeau-liberals-sexual-harassment-hehr-1.4507704

[–]TheMythof_Feminism 16 points17 points18 points 8 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

admits apologising to female reporter who accused him of groping – but insists he did nothing wrong

Huge mistake there , Justine.

"Apologizing" to the SJWs/feminists signifies both an admission of guilt and a green light to dogpile you harder than before... but if anyone deserves this, it's Justin "male feminist extraordinare" Trudeau.

[–][deleted] 11 points12 points13 points 8 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

Can a P.M. of Canada issue a pardon for himself?

[–]v574v 5 points6 points7 points 8 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

From what I understand, he can recommend himself for a pardon but the Queen of Canada needs to grant it through Canada’s Governor General.

This only applies to convicted crimes so he’d need to be charged and convicted and since the ex-reporter has no interest in that at the moment - it doesn’t seem likely.

His political problem right now is that he handled previous cases of sexual misconduct within his own party with zero tolerance whether the allegations were proven or not and he’s exposing himself as a raging hypocrite by not falling on his own sword.

[–]dejour 2 points3 points4 points 8 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

I'm not sure of the legalities, but generally Canadian politicians don't seem to pardon a list of individual people like the US does.

Usually when I hear of a Canadian pardon in the news, it's a mass pardon to overturn some (real or perceived) historical injustice:

eg. Pardons for all people convicted of homosexual acts, grain farmers who sold grain in the US, six Tsilhqot'in chiefs from an 1864 skirmish, pot possession*

Occasionally, it's used for particular historical people:

eg. Viola Desmond, Louis-Joseph Papineau, Louis Riel*, Poundmaker*

Starred entries are situations where the pardons have only been discussed, not granted.

I don't think Trudeau has the right to pardon himself. And if he does, it would be a huge departure from past precedent. Far more of a stretch than Trump pardoning himself.

[–]scyth3s 5 points6 points7 points 8 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Listen and believe...

[–]ConsistentWelder 12 points13 points14 points 8 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

getting boring now...

[–]Gingerchaun 17 points18 points19 points 8 years ago (26 children) | Copy Link

The woman issued a statement. She doesnt care and juat wants to be left alone.

[–]NibblyPig 8 points9 points10 points 8 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Michael Fallon, the UK defense minister, touched a woman's knee in 2002 and resigned over it when it came to light a couple of years ago, even though the woman said the same thing that it was old news and had been dealt with.

[–]Male_Positive 17 points18 points19 points 8 years ago (7 children) | Copy Link

It's not about her. It's about taking down the worst PM in history, because of his hipocrisy.

[–]Gingerchaun 17 points18 points19 points 8 years ago (5 children) | Copy Link

Worst prime minister in history eh? Clearly you are forgetting kim campbell and her what 6 month stint.

[–]Jesus_marley 11 points12 points13 points 8 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link

Kim Campbell was handed a flaming turd when she took over after Mulroney. While she was one of the shortest sitting PMs, she never had a chance to actually BE a PM as she took over during the summer break and asked the GG to dissolve Parliament in September as she was statutarily required to do.

[–]Mr_Civil 0 points1 point2 points 8 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link

Also, I don't believe she was elected. Wasn't she just appointed to the position as a temporary "acting" prime minister for some reason?

[–]Jesus_marley 0 points1 point2 points 8 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

she ran and won the position of party leader after Mulroney retired. Under the Canadian system, the leader of the party with the most seats in Parliament is PM.

[–]Mr_Civil -2 points-1 points0 points 8 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

Yeah, so she won the party vote but she never won a federal general election. That's what I thought, but I was pretty young at the time so I wasn't sure.

[–]Jesus_marley 0 points1 point2 points 8 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

She did win her riding in the 1988 election and was a Member of Parliament. She then ran for Party leader of the PCs after Mulroney retired.

Her position as PM was wholly legitimate, but given the incredibly short time in office, a major military scandal, and a disastrous campaign ad that appeared to mock Jean Chretien's Bells palsy, the PCs went from a Majority Government to only winning 2 seats in 1993.

[–]Flatlander0648 12 points13 points14 points 8 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

I didn't vote for him but he's far from the worst PM in history. Just as Harper isn't worst ever when people were pushing that claim before Justin Trudeau took over.

[–]Endless_Summer 0 points1 point2 points 8 years ago (14 children) | Copy Link

She can be left alone

But he's guilty of sexual assault, what do you suggest is to be done with him?

[–]Gingerchaun -1 points0 points1 point 8 years ago (13 children) | Copy Link

Hes not guilty of anything other than some hypocrisy. There is no plaintiff its a non issue.

[–]Endless_Summer 3 points4 points5 points 8 years ago (12 children) | Copy Link

Huh? She said it. He's guilty. That's the standard he created. He must be removed, at minimum.

[–]Gingerchaun -1 points0 points1 point 8 years ago (11 children) | Copy Link

Fuck we should probably write it into law hey? Why should we accept that as the standard?

[–]Endless_Summer 1 point2 points3 points 8 years ago (10 children) | Copy Link

No, he should practice what he preaches

According to his word he's guilty. What do you suggest happens to him?

I'm not talking about laws and standards, just him, so stop changing the subject.

[–]Gingerchaun -1 points0 points1 point 8 years ago (9 children) | Copy Link

Nothing. Him resigning would set an even worse precedent than whats going on. You cant just take this situation apart from reality. For fucks sake its bad enough when feminists use metoo as a weapon now you want to do the same against a man for what? Some sort of petty political gratification.

It was bad then its bad now.

[–]Endless_Summer 1 point2 points3 points 8 years ago (8 children) | Copy Link

So no one should be punished for groping women, then.

He said he did it and apologized. If I do the same I shouldn't be punished? You're literally being an apologist for sexual assault.

[–]Gingerchaun -1 points0 points1 point 8 years ago (7 children) | Copy Link

He never admitted to any "negative interactions" that day, why are you lieing about that?

No unproven allegations should not lead to punishment. Not when its a college frat kid nor when its the leader of a country.

Im not being an apologist of any kind im just respecting the rule of law.

[–]Endless_Summer 1 point2 points3 points 8 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

He never admitted to any "negative interactions" that day, why are you lieing about that?

It's.. It's literally in the title.. WTF

[–]FubukiAmagi 0 points1 point2 points 8 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link

Fact of the matter is Turdeau says that women must always be believed, and that anyone who is accused of sexual assault should step down because women don't lie about sexual assault. We know that's bullshit, but other politicians have resigned due to accusations whether they true or false.

So by Turdeau's own admission, he needs to resign because he was accused of sexual assault. So it doesn't matter if he's guilty or not, because he never gave a shit about that in the past, but now that HE'S the one accused, he's saying he did nothing wrong. That's the hypocrisy.

[–]Rethgil[S] 0 points1 point2 points 8 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

Probably got intimidated by the sisterhood.

[–]Gingerchaun 0 points1 point2 points 8 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Doubt it nobody knew who she was for a fact till she released her statement a day or 2 ago

[–][deleted] 6 points7 points8 points 8 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Trudeau is going to be just fine.

[–]peterparker6 5 points6 points7 points 8 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Hey now, we always take these claims seriously. Women never lie. This is the time i can get behind feminism, take all these douchebags out of office... who's next.

[–]azazelcrowley 2 points3 points4 points 8 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Active male feminists (As opposed to passively "Believing in feminism" like we are raised to do) are obviously going to be disproportionately nasty people because it involves knowingly lying about male experience and so on just to get approval, power, and status, as well as shilling for things you are well aware are prejudiced while not challenging the prevailing misandry and gynocentrism of the movement.

To do all of that involves being more than just self-absorbed and ignorant like many women feminists are, it means being a person who actively decides to do bad things, they're guaranteed to be on par with the worst women feminists.

If you're someone who is deceptive, two-faced, doesn't have much of an ethical system and so on, that probably does mean you're more likely to be a sexual abuser. That's why there's so many male feminists this happens to.

[–]Ocinea 2 points3 points4 points 8 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

He's a fucking punk.

[–]RealMatchesMalonee 4 points5 points6 points 8 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

Upon reading the article, it seems less like Trudeau defending his honor, and more like media wanting some gossip. The reporter in question doesn't even want to be associated with the article and doesn't want to pursue this headline any further. It's the CBC that's after the PM and keeps gunning for him. They're the ones trying to sensationalize the story.

[–]Mr_Civil 3 points4 points5 points 8 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Well, if that's the case, they have a funny way of showing it. The Sun has been talking about this for weeks (months?) while the CBC has been oddly quiet.

If anything I'd say the CBC's hand was forced because, at this point, to not say anything would remove the last shred of doubt about it being a Liberal funded shill.

[–]KralHeroin 2 points3 points4 points 8 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

R E S I G N

[–]MasZakrY 8 points9 points10 points 8 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link

Trudeau is a high school history teacher; complete embarrassment to be the PM of Canada. Sends all refugees to Toronto instead of a thousand other cities in Canada.

[–]gone-batty 3 points4 points5 points 8 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

Wasn’t he a drama teacher not a history teacher? For the record, I haven’t looked it up.

[–]dejour 2 points3 points4 points 8 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

He taught a bunch of subjects including math, french, drama and social studies.

[–]TerribleWedding 0 points1 point2 points 8 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

The refugees won't go anywhere else. You think they want to hang out with Canadians and speak English?

[–]RealJanuszTracz 1 point2 points3 points 8 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

"sticks and stones may break my bones, but there'll always be something to offend a feminist"

[–]I_Love_BB8 1 point2 points3 points 8 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Please let this be true.

[–]perplexedm 1 point2 points3 points 8 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

It will be fun to see this guy getting punished for his whiteknightism.

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points3 points 8 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Lul this guy is a complete fucking joke 😂

[–]Soups-Mcgee 1 point2 points3 points 8 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link

I’m a smart man and realized last year, that any comment on sexual assault will be turned against you by women. Knowing this, I take note of men that still engage with women ESPECIALLY at the workplace. I have lost ALL respect for those men because I think they’re idiots who are proverbially “dead men walking”. Trudeau, who is a public official in power, taking a stance on sexual harassment would be the biggest idiot of them all. This is no longer about what’s right and wrong. This is simply a power struggle by women to destroy men, who are easy targets to eliminate now. After they get us out of the way, they’ll tear each other apart.

[–]LilGreenCorvette 0 points1 point2 points 8 years ago* (2 children) | Copy Link

This is a problem even outside of man vs woman, even when it comes to race the same things happen.

Ex: one dude is scum and raped and killed several women, so some conclude all men are sexual deviants — one black guy robs a bank at gun point, so some conclude all black people are prone to anger and crime.

Grouping people into these categories is a human phenomenon and partially due to our survival instincts. If you get burned by a fire, you’re going to assume all fire will burn you right? Well in that case you’ve assumed rightly so. When it comes to people we have that reaction to.. has a woman broken your heart before? Well all women will break your heart so to protect yourself based on your instincts/experiences you’re going to eventually treat women differently. Have you heard on the news that a man sexually assaulted several women? Yes. Have you heard on the news that a woman has sexually assaulted several men? No. So your ‘lizard’ brain is going to correlate men with sexual assault and women as always the victim.

Those that fall into the same group as others that have been victimized (women in your example) have more pull to play the guilt card on others.

What I’m saying basically is that I wish people would take a step back when it comes to this and not let our caveman mind take the wheel so much! People are unique and can’t always be simply placed into these groups/categories.. until we learn not to do that, things/struggles like this will happen for eternity.

Edit: adding another example.

[–]Soups-Mcgee 0 points1 point2 points 8 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

I wish I didn’t have to use my caveman mind. Before the metoo movement, I always had a good feeling about women. My personal relationships were good and we all got along at work. Since this is in the forefront, and women have been weaponized, they’ve left us no choice but to act on these instincts as rational people would do. Even when this subsides and women realize what they have done is wrong towards men, we will never forget. Our decisions going forward, personal and professional, will always harken back to these few years. Because it was such a disgusting display.

[–]LilGreenCorvette 1 point2 points3 points 8 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Well this is how women feel too, with a lot of years of oppression in the past this is all just backlash. Not saying it’s right but it is natural, we’ve all done fucked up things to each other in the past. But we can change how we’re going to handle and react to it in the future. Don’t stoop down to this level and start categorizing too, there are assholes in this world but you don’t need to associate with them. If more of us stopped dealing with people’s negativity, as in literally just separate ourselves and don’t pay attention to the negative person, I think it would have a huge impact. On our mental health personally and making people realize they shouldn’t be a dipshit or no one will talk to them.

[–]jeff_the_nurse 1 point2 points3 points 8 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

I wonder if he thinks we should believe THIS woman...

[–]LilGreenCorvette 1 point2 points3 points 8 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

There’s actually been a gif that went around showing a woman groping HIM.

I can’t find it now but wtf these accusations are going too far - why can’t scorned people deal with their emotions in normal ways instead of trying to take someone down with false claims?

[–]JohnjSmithsJnr 0 points1 point2 points 8 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

It's more just if you're a public figure somewhere tbh

[–]skwishy29 0 points1 point2 points 8 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

How is she an offended feminist for saying he groped her. That’s gay to say that

[–]grandmasbroach 0 points1 point2 points 8 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Always believe women in the case of sexual assault and harassment claims. Unless it happens to me. Then, it isn't true of course.... Lol

This is just too good.

[–]auMatech 0 points1 point2 points 8 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

The article describes how Mr Trudeau told the female reporter: “I’m sorry. If I had known you were reporting for a national newspaper, I would never have been so forward.”

So if he had known she was a reporter for a national paper, he would have thought twice. If it were any other woman he would have done the exact same thing without a second thought?

What a smarmy bastard.. I get the feeling people like him who pander to the feminist narrative so overzealously, like he does have plenty of skeletons in their closet. It's as if they are trying to score as many brownie points with the other feminists, as a downpayment for all their own sexual assaults and stuff.

[–]ThatNinaGAL 1 point2 points3 points 8 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

[The woman involved] herself told the Canadian Broadcasting Corporation that she was not interested in being associated with any further coverage of the story, and asked that her name not be used, and that she not be contacted again.

It happened twenty years ago. Nobody got raped. She doesn't want to talk about it. This wasn't brought up to further the agenda of feminists, women in general or this woman in particular - it was brought up by one man (Kinsella) who is pissed off at another man (Trudeau) and has a long track record of making nasty insinuations about his political opponents.

[–]xyzadeel -2 points-1 points0 points 8 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Man, i fucking hate trudu and french pm.

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