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A woman allegedly intoxicated who was stopping traffic was arrested after she decided to face an officer.

attheisstt
October 16, 2017
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Title A woman allegedly intoxicated who was stopping traffic was arrested after she decided to face an officer.
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attheisstt
Upvotes 3547
Comments 332
Date October 16, 2017 5:45 PM UTC
(8 years ago)
Subreddit Posted in /r/PussyPassDenied
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[–]AnnyongSaysHello 799 points800 points801 points 8 years ago (13 children) | Copy Link

When you get a new weapon in a video game, you don't know how to use it, but the enemy isn't a threat so you have time to work on it.

[–]HublotKingCole 128 points129 points130 points 8 years ago (7 children) | Copy Link

Strafe

[–]NinjasOwnTheNight 52 points53 points54 points 8 years ago (6 children) | Copy Link

Dark souls roll?

[–]HublotKingCole 24 points25 points26 points 8 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Yeah

[–]kevinkat2 16 points17 points18 points 8 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link

Just roll straight through the 5 meters long katana

[–]NotACompleteDumbass 12 points13 points14 points 8 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link

With the right timing, everything can be rolled through. Wall of fire? Massive greatsword being wielded by a giant? Fuck it, roll through.

[–]kevinkat2 8 points9 points10 points 8 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

Yea the game doesn't really make sense in it's dodging mechanics but my god does it feel good to roll through an attack by a huge weapon

[–]NotACompleteDumbass 3 points4 points5 points 8 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

Especially when you know the attack could kill you, like the Fume Knight's attacks.

[–]kevinkat2 4 points5 points6 points 8 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Fume knight is the best thing about an overall not great game, the DLC's really saved dks2's reputation.

[–]Sy_Ableman 15 points16 points17 points 8 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

Is /r/veryspecificmrw a thing?

Edit: clicked my own link. No. No, it's not.

[–]MagentaHawk 4 points5 points6 points 8 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Usually that is /r/shittyreactiongifs What qualifies is they make it very specific to the scenario

[–]jeegte12 9 points10 points11 points 8 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Just keep dodging, the low level mob attacks are all dodgeable.

[–]TrustNoOne1912123123 8 points9 points10 points 8 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

LMAO

[–]Aggie_Bruh 0 points1 point2 points 8 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

😂😂😂

[–]Vip3r20 320 points321 points322 points 8 years ago (112 children) | Copy Link

Does he not have a taser? Just curious.

[–][deleted] 454 points455 points456 points 8 years ago (102 children) | Copy Link

Police are NOT required NOR trained to use the least intrusive level of force available. Once their safety/life is in danger, they are trained to eliminate the threat. Tasers don't always work, carry a risk of cardiac arrest, and have a history of not working on people who are under the influence of certain substances.

This woman was endangering the public and the officer. Deploying the nightstick WAS the least amount of force available at his disposal, unless you would have preferred that he punch her in the face or just shot her.

[–]nazgabagul 170 points171 points172 points 8 years ago (31 children) | Copy Link

I think what op wanted to say was that the cop seemed to spend a fair amount of time swinging that nightstick just out of range of her. If he had used his taser, the situation might have ended a lot quicker, potentially without him having to bring her down hard like he had to.

[–]Stevonz123 106 points107 points108 points 8 years ago (15 children) | Copy Link

Being tazed on concrete is the hardest you can be brought down.

[–]patrikas2 0 points1 point2 points 8 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

And here I thought a gunshot to the knees took the cake

[+]nazgabagul -49 points-48 points-47 points 8 years ago (13 children) | Copy Link

I’d definitely disagree with you. When you get tased, you seize up for a second and then fall down, under your own weight. That officer had to bring her down with her weight and his weight.

[–]ElMoncho 67 points68 points69 points 8 years ago (9 children) | Copy Link

I disagree with you. When being tazed your whole body locks up and there is no way for the person being tazed to cover their head/face. If you notice when she is dropped, she lands on her side which better than bagging your head on concrete. Telling it from experience of being tazed myself.

[–]nazgabagul 19 points20 points21 points 8 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link

That’s a good point, I didn’t really think of that. I haven’t been tazed so I can’t really speak on what the experience is like, I guess. However, I do think that a cop bringing you down with him is at least a little rougher than being tazed, especially if the person being tazed isn’t running. She was standing still, I would think she’d be better off being tazed than bodyslammed.

[–]ElMoncho 8 points9 points10 points 8 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Just check the videos where people get tazed and bang their heads/faces. Compare it to the gif of the lady being thrown and let me know what you think after that.

[–]Recycle0rdie 3 points4 points5 points 8 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

The point is she was being an absolute tool and fucking with everyones day. Not only that, she assaulted the officer and if youre too stupid to know what you get after that then you deserve to be crushed into the pavement. Man or woman doesnt matter.

[–]Valac_I whiteKnight for fatties -4 points-3 points-2 points 8 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Being tased isn't that bad.

[–][deleted] 4 points5 points6 points 8 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link

Why'd you get tazed bro?

[–]GilesDMT 7 points8 points9 points 8 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

Time for bed

[–][deleted] 2 points3 points4 points 8 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

I thought the reference was funny.

[–]ElMoncho 6 points7 points8 points 8 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Went to weapons demo... Police were giving people a chance to get tazed as to see how it feels and demonstrate weapon use. Doesn't hurt as much as it makes your body lock up.

[–]kragshot 0 points1 point2 points 8 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

It's the same principle of when you hear about an unconscious person surviving a fall from a great height with few injuries. Their being unconscious means that their body is totally relaxed so their body just concentrates on absorbing the entire shock of the impact.

If you are in a state of electric shock, all of your muscles are tensed up at once, so besides the damage of the impact of falling, the body will also have to risk muscle damage from the fall possibly over-stressing and tearing locked joints and muscles.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point2 points 8 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Which is exactly why it is the hardest you can be brought down. At least in this circumstance she was hip-tossed so her side hit the concrete first. If your tazed its very possible/likely that you'll hit your head and doing that on concrete is a good way to get killed.

It may not happen often but hitting your head from that height directly onto concrete can kill a person if they hit it just right.

[–]infamousnexus1 points 8 years ago* [recovered] (7 children) | Copy Link

I wish he would have brought her down harder.

[–]MSDakaRocker 32 points33 points34 points 8 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link

I was thinking a good ole 'Stone Cold Stunner' would've been totally justified... but also epic.

[–]smegma_stan 28 points29 points30 points 8 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

"Officer X, you've been aquitted of any wrong doing on the grounds that your 'stunner' was bad-ass. Take the rest of the day off and a 6-er of cold beers on your way out"

[–]WilliamBott 12 points13 points14 points 8 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

fuck that give him a 12-pack, I'm buying.

[–]quiznex 3 points4 points5 points 8 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

Not as epic as when The Undertaker threw Mankind off Hell In A Cell, and plummeted 16 ft through an announcer’s table... but it's epic enough.

[–]nowthatsthespirit 5 points6 points7 points 8 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

BAHGAWD HE IS BROKEN IN HALF!

[–]diarrhea_shnitzel 0 points1 point2 points 8 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

I think he should have waited for the swat team to come and then asked to borrow one of their machine guns.

[–]affenhitze 6 points7 points8 points 8 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

With sound you hear it hitting her shins. A nice solid “dingk!!!”

It will be felt in the am.

[–]nazgabagul 4 points5 points6 points 8 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

Ouchie

[–]BroaxXx 2 points3 points4 points 8 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

oof

[–]Bren12310 4 points5 points6 points 8 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

I think he was just trying to scare her off/get her off the street. I’m guessing he didn’t want to go full force and start swinging at her kneecaps.

[–]CGA001 8 points9 points10 points 8 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

If he had used his taser, the situation might have ended a lot quicker...

The key to the answer to this is the use of the word "might".

Tasers, despite popular belief, are not a foolproof defensive tactic. The only way a taser is effective is if you manage to land both shots on the moving target, and that the target isn't whacked out on hardcore drugs. A lot of individuals on drugs are so hyped up with adrenaline that sometimes, the taser does nothing to them. Generally speaking, tasers are only used if there are other officers around who can assist if the taser fails.

Meanwhile, no one is immune to batons. A broken bone is a broken bone no matter who you are. Even if this officer had a taser on him, this was the smart course of action.

[–]GalagaMarine 1 point2 points3 points 8 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

He was swinging his baton at her legs but Mrs. Fatass kept stepping back

[–]zgh5002 0 points1 point2 points 8 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Contrary to popular belief, tasers really aren't all that safe.

[–]TotallyNotanOfficer 9 points10 points11 points 8 years ago (9 children) | Copy Link

Tasers don't always work, carry a risk of cardiac arrest, and have a history of not working on people who are under the influence of certain substances.

They don't even have to be under certain substances. Relevant video

And if we're talking about being on substances, here is a man on PCP who has literally no reaction to being tased, repeatedly - or being hit by batons.

[–]BatmanIsSmartAf 6 points7 points8 points 8 years ago (5 children) | Copy Link

here is a man on PCP

I don't understand this. Tasers work physiologically on the muscles. PCP is a NMDA receptor antagonist, which if I remember correctly, don't have anything to do with muscles. How does this work?

[–]Sexualwhore 12 points13 points14 points 8 years ago* (0 children) | Copy Link

Nmda cascade causes acytlcholine antagonism and our muscles only function on either that, or by nicotinic muscuranic receptors, which is why smoking is so addictive. Feeding your muscles with feel goods. Also i believe myosin which triggers muscle release is margined in part by atp which is codependent of actyl coa which go hand in hand with each other. So pcp just causes too much of a blockage in part by antagonism of the nmda + its cascade constituents, but also the myosin is already relieved by mitochondrias ability to expel any atp that would react to the current of the tazer. In other words, what seems to be a nerve thing is actually a cell currency thing. Thats to pcp

Anyone correct any misses please, maybe there is something more

Edit: the acytl coa is made in part by cholesterol and other esthers which function as both a myelin sheath ingredient, and hormone + vitamin and whole bunch of other things so when its released in abundant amounts there are actually more esthers in your blood stream. That free cholesterol acts as a attuner for the voltage and believe it or not (im just speculating, if anyone wants to actually research be the hero we deserve) is enough to take down the amount of shock the nerves receive by a substantial amount. 50,000 volts is shit when the body is insulated in delicious cholesterol esters. Yea each nerve only needs 75 millivolts to transmit, but when the cells are not using the biochemical potential at the synapse, the nerves have no obligation to transmit, and 75 millivolts * a billion which is supremely conservative add up to more than a few batteries worth of voltage, when the real power is in amperage which are all held by the body in chemical energy. Just one of those processes i mentioned extract a real good amount of atomic energy. It aint playin with batteries. It uses atoms mf

Ok like i said anyone hop on here and fix any errors

[–]TotallyNotanOfficer 2 points3 points4 points 8 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link

How does this work?

No idea. Same goes with how people on say PCP can be reported to be inhumanly strong under its influence. It shouldn't change the effect, but for some reason it appears that it may.

[–]Revan343 0 points1 point2 points 8 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

Can't really feel pain on dissociatives, so you aren't prevented from overexerting to an extent that would damage your muscles in the long run

[–]TotallyNotanOfficer 1 point2 points3 points 8 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

Same applies to adrenaline though. You don't feel pain properly or at all when it dumps into your system. Given a substantial number of encounters can have/cause adrenaline dumps, adrenaline should do the same then, no?

[–]Revan343 0 points1 point2 points 8 years ago* (0 children) | Copy Link

I would expect so, but you don't generally get adrenaline spikes that often. Frequently taking epinephrine intentionally in order to perform feats of strength would probably start to damage your muscles-- but I think in that case your heart would give out first

[–]johnq-pubic 0 points1 point2 points 8 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

Wow. Hats off to those policemen, in your 2nd link. That guy was not going down, but they stayed calm and didn't use deadly force.

[–]TotallyNotanOfficer 0 points1 point2 points 8 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Yeah, they handled it pretty well.

[–]BroaxXx 0 points1 point2 points 8 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

The video of the guy on PCP is clearly being misinterpreted. On the first taser shot one of the electrodes doesn't pierce the skin (you can see it at 0:55 where one of the wires is rolled on itself). The second shot does hit with both electrodes and the guy is visibly incapacitated (at around 1:56).

[–][deleted] 13 points14 points15 points 8 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

She is a big girl. Going for an immediate body slam or tazer might not have worked as well. But I'd love to see a tazer to the face for once.

[–]wasdninja1 points 8 years ago [recovered] (1 child) | Copy Link

Her size doesn't matter for the tazer though. You fall like a rock, big or small.

[–]gerrettheferrett 1 point2 points3 points 8 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

... False. By a long shot.

Lots of bigger fellas can remain a standing.

Also, those on certain substances often can tank it.

Do your research before commenting.

[–]flaviuscrispus 15 points16 points17 points 8 years ago (26 children) | Copy Link

are they trained to strike the legs though? I was wondering why he just didn't jab her in the face with the nightstick.

[–]ionicomb 69 points70 points71 points 8 years ago (20 children) | Copy Link

Yes. Quads, glutes, deltoid, are all green. (1st target) Belly, groin, flank, joints (knees, elbows, wrists, ankles) yellow (2nd target Head, neck, spine red (lethal force)

[+]flaviuscrispus -30 points-29 points-28 points 8 years ago (19 children) | Copy Link

interesting, I'd never've'd thought hitting someone in the head with a nightstick was considered lethal force.

[–]fucknazimodz 25 points26 points27 points 8 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

Hitting somebody in the head with pretty much anything is considered lethal force

[–]FountainsOfFluids 16 points17 points18 points 8 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

"I hear that's like really bad for you." - Archer

[–]m00k0w 44 points45 points46 points 8 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

Please think or look up more about it. This goes for everybody reading, because there is this thing I see where it seems like very few people are aware of the implications of head and spinal blows / injury. A well-placed hit, not even necessarily very strong, but just with the right vector/angle of force application, can leave a person permanently physically or mentally disabled.

We see this problem in comments for MMA or amateur fights, where everyone is discussing the tactics and no one is talking about the fact every single punch or blow to the head could be a significant impact, worse than stabbing somebody in the gut. That heals, but your brain does not heal very easily.

[–]ionicomb 5 points6 points7 points 8 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

You have to think of the index of suspicion of injury. If I crack you in the C1-3 area of your cervical spine (the base of your skull to 3 spinal notches down) with moderate force, I will like do a couple of things... 1. Sever your spinal colomn which will kill you instantly 2. Cause an internal hemorrhage which will swell and push the brain stem against the base of your spine essentially sheering It, which will kill You, albeit slower than a severe, but it will kill you 3. Cause severe swelling and occlude blood supply to several important parasympathetic nerve areas resulting in complete paralysis, which is a long slow torturous existence which subsequent infections such as pneumonia for example, will eventually kill you ie. Christopher Reeves. A strike to the flank or chest plate can cause a few life threatening injuries such as cardiac tamponade (blood build up in the pericardium that prevents the heart from pumping effectively) or a trauma pneumothorax (collapsed lung) or hemothorax (collapsed lung from hemorrhaging ) however all of those can be fixed realtively quickly and with minimal long term impact in comparison to spinal or cerebral hemorrhaging where in many cases there is literally nothing that can be done except wait to die.

[–][deleted] 5 points6 points7 points 8 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

I agree. I have seen many instances of someone fucked up for life because they got punched in the face or kicked in the back of the head.

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points3 points 8 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

baton chart

[–]dudeimsupercereal 0 points1 point2 points 8 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

Not sure why you’re getting downvoted. You were just honest about not knowing, and weren’t arguing with anybody.

[–]atomcrusher 8 points9 points10 points 8 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

I actually get the vibe that they were being sarcastic.

[+]I-Am-The-Patriarchy -12 points-11 points-10 points 8 years ago (10 children) | Copy Link

Same here until I held one, those things are fucking brutal. They weigh 15-20 lbs and have a metal ball on the end, shit will fuck you up.

[–]SystemFolder 9 points10 points11 points 8 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link

They don’t weigh anywhere near that much. The standard police baton is the Monadnock PR-24. It weighs 23 ounces.

Source

[–]I-Am-The-Patriarchy -2 points-1 points0 points 8 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

Jeez sorry man, there's definitely only one weight/size baton. I retract my other statement.

[–]Throwaway123465321 4 points5 points6 points 8 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

No there are a lot but you might want to hit the gym if you picked up any baton and thought it weighed 20 pounds.

[–]GotSomeOliveInYaSkin 0 points1 point2 points 8 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

How the fuck would you carry a 20 lbs baton on your belt....or swing it more than twice before you run out of juice. That's ridiculous.

Unless you are not being sarcastic right now. In which case, I retract my bewilderment.

[–]flaviuscrispus 0 points1 point2 points 8 years ago (5 children) | Copy Link

I never knew they weighed that much

[–]fucknazimodz 23 points24 points25 points 8 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

They don't. Nightsticks weigh 2-3 pounds. No idea where this guy gets his info. Maybe he lives in dark age Europe and is confusing nightstick with maces

[–]AsteRISQUE 6 points7 points8 points 8 years ago* (3 children) | Copy Link

Same, I was wondering how the drunk was able to dodge the 1st few strikes.

Now I know that there are green->red areas for striking and that it weighs significantly more than just a regular baton, which makes it a lot more difficult.

Good on that cop for using the safest way to stop her.

edit: added cop compliment

[–]Throwaway123465321 0 points1 point2 points 8 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

They only weigh a couple pounds. No where near what that other guy said.

[–]AsteRISQUE 0 points1 point2 points 8 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

Really? i figured with that length, and it being made of a dense wood, and have a iron ball at the end, it ought to have weighed in that vicinity.

oh well, thanks for the correction!

[–][deleted] 11 points12 points13 points 8 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

sweep the leg, Johnny.

[–]gojohandjob 3 points4 points5 points 8 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Put him in a body bag, Johnny!

[–]Git_Off_Me_Lawn 5 points6 points7 points 8 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

That's a no hit zone that starts at the head and extends downward the width of your head. So sides and legs are okay, groin and face wouldn't be for example.

At least that's what I heard from a cop buddy years ago.

[–]bzdelta 0 points1 point2 points 8 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Heh

Looks like she had plenty of hit zone

[–]ScottyINeedMorePower 0 points1 point2 points 8 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

People watching.

[–]AlphaQall 4 points5 points6 points 8 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

Did she really just made a grab for his gun? I’m not imagining that am I?

[–]Kinbaku_enthusiast 1 point2 points3 points 8 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Retention holster. Isn't going to be easy to get it in any case.

[–][deleted] 6 points7 points8 points 8 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Punch her in the face

[–]ReptarKanklejew 1 point2 points3 points 8 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

idk, a face punch right there would've been pretty satisfying.

[–][deleted] 2 points3 points4 points 8 years ago (5 children) | Copy Link

I'm quite happy for people like her to be shot.

[–]MDev01 -5 points-4 points-3 points 8 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link

I'm quite happy for people like her to be shot.

We all know you are quite happy for it, that is part of the fucking problem that we are trying to fix, calm the fuck down. Have you seen how many people we punish by shooting and jailing? I know, we ALL like revenge, hell there are many subreddits dedicated to it and I love them too; but it's NOT WOKING. Like a lot of things that we Americans hold dear, this why we are no longer NUMBER ONE at anything other than punishing people.

I know I am going to get punished for this one, please be gentle.

[–]andy83991 1 point2 points3 points 8 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

I didn't think I could immediately dislike someone as much as a just did with that woman, but..

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point2 points 8 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

Take your meds

[–]MDev01 0 points1 point2 points 8 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Take your meds

Me or her in the video?

[–]Flash_hsalF -3 points-2 points-1 points 8 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

MURICA

[–]Duncanc0188 0 points1 point2 points 8 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Police are NOT required NOR trained

Can I get a source on officers not being trained with them?

[+][deleted] -18 points-17 points-16 points 8 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

He still looked like a fat loser who couldn't take down a fatter loser

[+][deleted] -45 points-44 points-43 points 8 years ago (14 children) | Copy Link

I'm with u/Vip3r20: he should have used a taser. IIRC Police in the US are supposed to serve and protect which includes even fuckwits like this particular woman. This officer was attempting to hurt this person, not protect himself, the perpetrator or the public.

Police are NOT required NOR trained to use the least intrusive level of force available. Once their safety/life is in danger, they are trained to eliminate the threat. Tasers don't always work, carry a risk of cardiac arrest, and have a history of not working on people who are under the influence of certain substances. This woman was endangering the public and the officer. Deploying the nightstick WAS the least amount of force available at his disposal, unless you would have preferred that he punch her in the face or just shot her.

u/Sucessful-Troll has just highlighted why so many Americans are killed during arrest. I would hate to spoken to or interact with any member of the American Police force for any reason at all (based on most of the footage I've seen and news I've read). Until this military approach by police in the US changes a lot more people, including police, will be injured or die.

[–][deleted] 13 points14 points15 points 8 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link

I do not disagree with what you say, I am simple pointing of how the law currently works. "Protect and serve" is a motto, not a legally binding statement of conduct. The entire US police force IS militarized. The last administration even authorized the sale of used military equipment to police forces. You have small local sheriff's departments serving warrants with swat teams and armored tactical vehicles.

This officer was attempting to hurt this person, not protect himself, the perpetrator or the public.

He was attempting to incapacitate her to remove the threat.

[+][deleted] -13 points-12 points-11 points 8 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

My issue with his conduct isn't that he might harm someone who's dangerous and behaving dangerously, my issue is that he could surely have maced her or taser' her and it would have been safer?

What do you make of such heavily armed Police in America? I appreciate every time they stop a car the person(s) inside may be armed. So different to the UK where it is highly unlikely someone is armed with a fun. Maybe a knife but that can carry serious jail time.

[–]MustakaThinks breakfast food is gay sex 1 point2 points3 points 8 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

If I recall not all police have tazers. Would have been much funnier to see her dropped that way though.

[–]GingerJack76 2 points3 points4 points 8 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

You can go blind from mace, and as mentioned before, tazing has its own risks. Plus both of them might not actually incapacitate the target, where is grappling them is safer in comparison. Having a few bruises from a night stick on the legs and sides isn't anything terrible, and if you're trying to harm a police officer, I don't think that's unreasonable amounts of force.

[–]GingerJack76 3 points4 points5 points 8 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link

If you taze someone, they're going to fall without being able to catch themselves. If she were to fall on the concrete and hit her head, that might be a serious injury. Not to mentioned as before, it risks the officer because tasers don't always work, he might not be carrying one.

Also, expecting an officer to not use as much force as necessary to protect himself is insane. We have a serious problem with some sections of our population committing 50% of the murders, you don't have that in places like Germany. Saying that it's the police using military grade equipment is insane considering these other factors.

[–][deleted] -5 points-4 points-3 points 8 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link

He beat that woman onto the ground! Did you watch the video? Teasing her would have been way less effort and he could have always whacked her as well. I know I'd much rather be teased than beaten if I was resisting arrest.

Your second point: I just completely disagree with you. Policing in the UK is very reserved, very measured - psychical contact with the public (even if they're criminals) is usually a last resort and the officers are pretty limited as to what they can do.

Also interesting I've seen many Police in America patrol alone. Just one officer per car. Here Police almost always seem to work in pairs.

Obviously what works in one place may not work in another. I just feel like America is already very, very dangerous and a tooled up, militarised police force with an inferiority complex doesn't help that.

[–]GingerJack76 4 points5 points6 points 8 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

He beat that woman onto the ground! Did you watch the video?

If you taze someone, they're going to fall without being able to catch themselves. If she were to fall on the concrete and hit her head, that might be a serious injury.

I just completely disagree with you. Policing in the UK is very reserved, very measured

You don't have guns, you don't have a poor community like we do. Like I said:

We have a serious problem with some sections of our population committing 50% of the murders...

I just feel like America is already very, very dangerous and a tooled up, militarised police force with an inferiority complex doesn't help that.

147 cops died in the USA last year while on duty. 104 have died this year. No cops, so far as I can find, have died in 2016 in the UK, and only one has died this year in the UK. I shouldn't fault you for being ignorant of this, but it is a lot more dangerous here, and it's not because of the cops, it's because our population is different. We have a much higher murder rate, and as I've already mentioned:

We have a serious problem with some sections of our population committing 50% of the murders...

Please don't presume your simplistic view of the world will fix everything, you're just going to make things worse.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point2 points 8 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

First of the UK certainly does have poverty. Worrying amounts of poverty.

I also can't see any police deaths for 2016 but I have to go to work. I will check in a bit more depth later and report back.

Lol to the back end of your comment! Why do you think:

  • your population is different?

  • your murder rate is higher?

  • no police deaths in the UK last year is anything other than a success?!

  • that my view of the world (as if someone's opinion) will make things worse?

[–]GingerJack76 0 points1 point2 points 8 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

I've already answered all of your questions, you're not reading what I wrote.

[–][deleted] 7 points8 points9 points 8 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link

Also, I will add the there is a big "culture" problem with police in the U.S. They are taught to be "warrior guardians" They view themselves as going out "to do battle with the criminal element." Every citizen is a potential threat.

That is why IMHO, the police shootings have less to do with race and more to do with training and culture. Its not that cops are shooting minorities BECAUSE THEY ARE MINORITIES. Its because they are facing a set of circumstances that their training tells them to react to by shooting.

[–][deleted] 2 points3 points4 points 8 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link

I agree that training and culture are more of a problem than racism (though I'm sure in some departments that combo is a potent mix).

Is there a way o train US officers in a way that keeps them safe and simultaneously gives potential innocent people a good amount of safety as well? The traffic stop and search training I've seen would be something I'd see soldiers doing in Mogadishu, Mosul or Aleppo, not in a civilian area.

What would it take to keep officers safe and stop people being investigated/arrested from being seriously hurt or killed?

[–][deleted] 4 points5 points6 points 8 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

The only way things will change is if there is a concerted effort at the national level to bring civil rights charges against departments that result in the entry of a consent decree under which the departments agree to a different training methodology.

[–]mouthpanties 0 points1 point2 points 8 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

I agree, my concern is who actually become police. We dont pay them very much to put their life on the line. They have the right to go home safe, and that supersedes most of your rights. We dont have enough people to be cops if we expect more but dont pay quite a bit more. Or the cops just aren't going to care. I have friends how are cops in Oakland, they just answer 911 calls. Thats it. The city runs itself. If you don't support the police, they have legal ways to not support you.

[–][deleted] 3 points4 points5 points 8 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Cops can't fix everything when a society collapses and refuses to self-regulate.

[–]el_gran_galo 5 points6 points7 points 8 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

Probably didn’t think he needed it or fear he might hit the wrong person who knows.

[–]pmth 1 point2 points3 points 8 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

How you gonna hit the wrong person when you're in the middle of an intersection lol

[–]terdsie 3 points4 points5 points 8 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Personally, I was hoping he'd spray her.

[–]Harshest_Truth 2 points3 points4 points 8 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Tasers are dangerous bro. They should be the last-ditch less-than-letal effort

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points3 points 8 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

If an office is going to have a taser on his/her belt, at least where I'm from, they are required to have been raced with both the ranged and hand to hand versions so they are not so quick to use it

[–]Wood_floors_are_wood 0 points1 point2 points 8 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Tasers are not always the answer! When will the public learn this?

[–][deleted] -1 points0 points1 point 8 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Or a gun?

[–][deleted] -2 points-1 points0 points 8 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Well he's not supposed to use a baton like it's a bat.

[–]Lord_ThunderCunt 482 points483 points484 points 8 years ago (26 children) | Copy Link

She actually benefited from the pussy pass for a while too. A man doing the same crap would have been dropped much sooner.

[–]Nj1293 296 points297 points298 points 8 years ago (23 children) | Copy Link

Because she's less of a threat he used a lower level of force because she's just some fat little woman. A man is going to be more dangerous typically being physically stronger therefore having to use a higher level force. In this case he was doing the appropriate level.

[–]TotallyNotanOfficer 123 points124 points125 points 8 years ago (7 children) | Copy Link

While both men and women are a threat, This is true - Men have around 50% more muscle mass, and also produce about 50% more strength output for the same mass. Some 89% of men, are stronger than women. A whole 11% of women are stronger then men, and this accounts for age groups well into elderly ranges, when testosterone has a much lessened effect due to a lack of production. It's also a nationally representative sample, which means you have more disabled/elderly than otherwise would be included.

https://www.reddit.com/r/dataisbeautiful/comments/4vcxd0/almost_all_men_are_stronger_than_almost_all_women/?st=j8uxpbuk&sh=96790aac

https://www.reddit.com/r/dataisbeautiful/comments/4vcxd0/almost_all_men_are_stronger_than_almost_all_women/d5xbqxi/

[–]T2112 21 points22 points23 points 8 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Yay facts. Thank you.

[+]jc5504 -24 points-23 points-22 points 8 years ago (5 children) | Copy Link

Some 89% of men are stronger than women

How many women? All of them? Most of them? An overwhelming majority? Your stat means nothing without this information, same with the 11%.

[–]TotallyNotanOfficer 15 points16 points17 points 8 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link

I provided you the link. What do you mean? It clearly details it.

"Combined grip strength by age and sex. Combined grip strength is the sum of the largest isometric grip strength readings from each hand, measured using a handgrip dynamometer. Grip strength is an index of upper body strength. Each point is one person. Sample size = 7064.
Data are from the US National Health and Nutrition Examination Survey (NHANES) 2011-2012: http://www.cdc.gov/nchs/nhanes/nhanes2011-2012/overview_g.htm
NHANES is a representative sample of the US noninstitutionalized civilian resident population of the United States. It utilizes a complex, multistage, probability sampling design. The sizes of the symbols represent the sampling weights.
The grip strength variables are described here: http://wwwn.cdc.gov/nchs/nhanes/2011-2012/MGX_G.htm
All ages > 80 were set to 80 to protect participant anonymity.
Plot was generated using the svyplot and svysmooth functions from the survey package in R.
EDIT 1: controlling for age, height, and weight, the adult female mean is 23.3 kg less than the adult male mean (without controlling for height and weight, the female mean is 33.8 kg less than the male mean). Adult: 18-60.
EDIT 2: Some of the very low values are individuals with disabilities (this is a nationally representative sample).
EDIT 3: In these NHANES data, 89% of adult men are stronger than the 89% of adult women.
EDIT 4: Grip strength is a decent proxy for upper and lower limb strength, and is also correlated with other indices of strength. Based on other studies, there is a smaller sex difference in lower body strength. Here is the conclusion of one recent study (Bohannon et al. 2012):

The findings of this study suggest that for healthy adults isometric measures of grip and knee extension strength reflect a common underlying construct, that is, limb muscle strength. Nevertheless, differences in activities requiring grip and knee extension strength and the findings of our analysis preclude a blanket advocacy for using either alone to describe the limb muscle strength of tested individuals.

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3448119/

EDIT 4B: According to Pheasant (1983), a review of 112 datasets on sex differences in strength, the female/male ratio of lower limb strength is 66%. In chance encounters between a female and male, the female lower limb strength would be greater 12% of the time.

Edit 5: Male strength varies more than female strength: The standard deviation of adult male strength is 17.1 kg; that of adult female strength is 10.5 kg.

[–]Ikaika78 1 point2 points3 points 8 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

This guy facts

[+]jc5504 -16 points-15 points-14 points 8 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

89% of adult men are stronger than the 89% of adult women

There you go, that's a lot better. I wasn't calling you a liar, it's just that your original statement didn't make any sense. Yes it was properly sourced but you don't have an argument if your statement isn't cohesive.

Furthermore, that Reddit post titled "almost all men are stronger than almost all women" was factual and provided more information than your statement.

[–]Scottyzredhead 2 points3 points4 points 8 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Cool

[–]FancypantsButtercups 14 points15 points16 points 8 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

Is we is or is we ain't equal?

[–]Irishfanbuck 14 points15 points16 points 8 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Is you or is you ain't my constituent?

[–]the_dark_knight_ftw 1 point2 points3 points 8 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Physically we obviously aren’t equal.

[–]mitzibishi1 points 8 years ago [recovered] (9 children) | Copy Link

Less of a threat? She is running around in rush hour traffic. It's a pile up waiting to happen. She should have been tased as soon as she started putting members of the public in danger through her actions.

[–]Demonseedii 2 points3 points4 points 8 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

I was just waiting on titty.

[–]i_eight 0 points1 point2 points 8 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Calm down, Chicken Little.

[–]GKoala -3 points-2 points-1 points 8 years ago (6 children) | Copy Link

A pile up with cars stopped at an intersection? You wouldn’t call a jay walker putting the public in danger would you?

[–]mitzibishi1 points 8 years ago [recovered] (4 children) | Copy Link

Till the cop made a move there were Cars moving and driving around them. She was in the middle of an intersection with cars turning in. And who knows how long this went in before filming started. You must be blind.

[–]GKoala -3 points-2 points-1 points 8 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link

No, I just think you’re blowing it out of proportion. Wouldn’t you think it was the people that kept on driving knowing full well they might hit her be the danger to the public? People would stop their cars if they saw a jaywalker. A drunk wild women? Nah let’s keep driving. 🤔

[–]TeflonWizard 1 point2 points3 points 8 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

Yes, lets keep driving. Im not stopping because some fat fuck bitch decides to make a scene in the intersection. Lets let natural selection run its course, shall we?

[–]GKoala 0 points1 point2 points 8 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

You keep driving past jay walkers too?

[–]the_dark_knight_ftw 0 points1 point2 points 8 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Jay walking is illegal for a reason

[–]the_dark_knight_ftw 0 points1 point2 points 8 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Correct.

[–]GameOnDevin 0 points1 point2 points 8 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

She has the power of love on her side. Don't really know what she is capable of.

[–]67859295710582735625 7 points8 points9 points 8 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

She's fat and can absorb more hits.

[–]Nydusurmainus 1 point2 points3 points 8 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

The cop was doing the smart thing and capping her knees. That way she can't run latter and eventually she goes down.

[–]TunnelSnakePaul 74 points75 points76 points 8 years ago (6 children) | Copy Link

Can someone please put a dope ass dance track to this?

[–]fernguts 49 points50 points51 points 8 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

Best I could do.

[–]AnnaBortion269 6 points7 points8 points 8 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Ahahahahahaha, this is the best..

[–]CastielClean 10 points11 points12 points 8 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

This is golden and deserves more exposure.

[–]greenleefs 7 points8 points9 points 8 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

dub dub dub they call me craaazy

[–][deleted] 79 points80 points81 points 8 years ago (6 children) | Copy Link

I love how the other guy at the end helps the cop arrest her instead of the traditional white knighting bullshit.

[–]Elfere 36 points37 points38 points 8 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link

This was my favorite part as well. He could see the cop DIDN'T want to be hurting her. So he helped the cop.

I'm sure a night in the drunk tank did her well.

She'll probably get off with a warning because, women reasons...

[–]diarrhea_shnitzel 17 points18 points19 points 8 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

She's under a lot of stress ok?

[–]andy83991 2 points3 points4 points 8 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

Your comment went one word too long

[–]raccoonwitharifle 1 point2 points3 points 8 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

“Reasons?”

[–]quantasmm 1 point2 points3 points 8 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

She's a lot of stress, ok?

[–]eyemadeanaccount 16 points17 points18 points 8 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Exactly. He sees this bullshit, sees the cop struggling, and jumps in to help him. Let's give this guy a round of applause.

[–]Fart_Missile 17 points18 points19 points 8 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

You shit is getting real when they start clapping while talking.

[–]andy83991 14 points15 points16 points 8 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

Ugh I hate anyone who claptalks

[–]Herdo 7 points8 points9 points 8 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

I 👏 HATE 👏 ANY 👏 ONE 👏 WHO 👏 CLAP 👏 TALKS 👏

[–]samsc2Cooking up a batch of MRE denials 176 points177 points178 points 8 years ago (88 children) | Copy Link

Just amazing how feminism has taught women that somehow being fat mean's you're actually capable of taking on a man or that you're strong. Fat isn't muscle all it'll do is slow you down and make you say retarded shit like "real men like curves".

[–]MuffinPants996 77 points78 points79 points 8 years ago (80 children) | Copy Link

I feel like you’re straw-manning feminism here.

[–]selfsufficientnigga1 points 8 years ago* [recovered] (43 children) | Copy Link

Before feminism, there were no World Wars. After feminism came onto scene, two World Wars. Case closed.

[–]Lord_ThunderCunt 73 points74 points75 points 8 years ago (36 children) | Copy Link

Prohibition too.

I'm actually being serious.

[–]Crusader_1096 61 points62 points63 points 8 years ago (25 children) | Copy Link

I do actually blame feminism for that one.

[–]Generic-username427 20 points21 points22 points 8 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Well yeah, cause they, you know, actually caused it to happen

[–][deleted] 7 points8 points9 points 8 years ago (23 children) | Copy Link

Yeah, I'll agree there. Distillation created a situation where working class men who used to drink weak cider and beer were slamming large amounts of high test grain liquor, in a time when women had no rights. Something eventually had to happen and, unfortunately, Prohibition was that something.

[–]lag051183 3 points4 points5 points 8 years ago (12 children) | Copy Link

A large reason women wanted the right to vote, at the time, was so they could prohibition passed, generally speaking. The book "Last Call" was a good read on the subject.

[–]ShePersisted 6 points7 points8 points 8 years ago (11 children) | Copy Link

Maybe they were tired of getting beat by their drunk husbands?

[–]lag051183 7 points8 points9 points 8 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

That was exactly it. That and religious reasons as well.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point2 points 8 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Not true

[–]andy83991 1 point2 points3 points 8 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Maybe they were upset they weren't in on the scene. See, we can both take wild guesses...

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points3 points 8 years ago (7 children) | Copy Link

Not true at all. You are likely a misandrist who masturbates over the thought of men losing rights

[–]KyubeyTheSpaceFerret1 points 8 years ago [recovered] (6 children) | Copy Link

women couldn’t drink either during prohibition, and are you implying that women making sure their husbands couldn’t get drunk and beat them is a bad thing? like sure “no drinking” is taking away peoples rights, but they were getting beaten and the men weren’t getting charged (iirc people started to take abuse seriously in the mid-70s/early 80s) with anything, or even fined unless they were killed during the beatings. so you’re saying the women should’ve just laid there and taken it.

sounds like ur a misogynist with no sympathy

[–][deleted] 10 points11 points12 points 8 years ago (9 children) | Copy Link

Prohibition never had to happen

[–]smokeydaBandito -4 points-3 points-2 points 8 years ago* (8 children) | Copy Link

something had to happen.

I'm no feminist, but I am pro not-hiting-my-non-existant-wife-while-im-plastered. Which is what I think they were going for.

Edit: the lot of you downvoters can fuck right off.

[–][deleted] -1 points0 points1 point 8 years ago (7 children) | Copy Link

We don’t even know that was the reason

[–]Geleg456 0 points1 point2 points 8 years ago (6 children) | Copy Link

It was though. Women got beat by their drunk husbands all the time

[–]scottcockerman 14 points15 points16 points 8 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

The Rockerfellers bankrolled the surfergates to platform against alcohol because it was "bad for marriages." Their goal was to eliminate home stills so people weren't making their own car fuel.

[–]Lord_ThunderCunt 5 points6 points7 points 8 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

I did not know about the Rockefeller part.

Seems there was a lot of that going on back then.

Was it Carnegie that pushed for marijuana prohibition to because hemp makes a cheap paper?

[–]SystemFolder 2 points3 points4 points 8 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

It was simply people’s changing attitudes over what they wanted to put into their body.

Source

[–]KyubeyTheSpaceFerret1 points 8 years ago [recovered] (6 children) | Copy Link

but prohibition wasn’t bad, per se. people could not drink wouldn’t die bc they couldn’t get their whisky, but drinking is fun… so prohibition = bad? it’s just the men got drunk and beat their wives within an inch of their lives, so they collectively decided they wanted to ban alcohol, and it worked. can you blame them for not wanting to be fucking decked in the face every day?

[–]Lord_ThunderCunt 1 point2 points3 points 8 years ago (5 children) | Copy Link

Are you fucking high?

Prohibition is bad. You ever hear of an organization called the mafia? They gained all their power in the states because of prohibition.

Look at the current money pit that is the war on drugs for a perfect example. The millions of dead because of drug policy did nothing but create criminals and cartels. The rise of for profit prisons and the school to prison pipe lines. It's an insane policy.

[–]KyubeyTheSpaceFerret1 points 8 years ago [recovered] (4 children) | Copy Link

Huh. I stand corrected, forgot about the mafia. Prohibition did more bad than good, but at least it sort of helped women? That is, until illegal alcohol happened.

[–]Lord_ThunderCunt 1 point2 points3 points 8 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link

It was a total bullshit, we have alcohol today, you think every man that drinks knocks around his wife/girlfriend/significant other?

Prohibition was pushed forward by a minority of overly moral busy bodies with too much time on their hands.

And according to some one who replied to me earlier, funded by the Rothschilds to keep people from using grain alcohol as a cheap fuel alternative to oil.

And if you want to see some ugly faces do a Google image search for "lips that touch hooch, will never touch mine"

[–]KyubeyTheSpaceFerret1 points 8 years ago [recovered] (2 children) | Copy Link

Back then, beating your wife and children was widely accepted as one of a husband’s god-given rights. women were like… 3/4 people. Children like 1/2. We think of dogs as like 3/4 people. You would beat them sober, but you wouldn’t beat them like you did shitfaced. You don’t have any inhibitions sloppy drunk, you would hit them harder just because 1) you were drunk, you weren’t in your right mind and were angry, and 2) you were drunk, you weren’t dexterous enough to pull your punches– not that you would, you were an angry drunk.

Now, if you actually (drunk OR sober) beat your wife and do anything more than roughly spank your kids more than a couple times, you’re absolutely fucked. Your life is ruined, you’re going to jail, the rest of your life, at least socially, will be a struggle– as it should be. Don’t brutally assault people and don’t abuse your children, else you go to prison and rot.

The woman who really started prohibition’s husband died of alcoholism. Her message really resonated with Christian women (so, basically all women in America at the time) who adapted her message to being against drunk-beatings, too.

Can’t find anything related to “grain alcohol Rothschild oil” on google.

So they didn’t want to be in a relationship with an alcoholic, we can safely assume they were in a romantic relationship or had a personal relationship with one before and didn’t want to do that again. Keep in mind, this is the blue collar 1920-30s man + alcohol, not the 2010s man.

[–]Lord_ThunderCunt 1 point2 points3 points 8 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

You know what happened to men beating their wives back then? The woman's fathers and brothers eventually found out about it and a wife beater got the shit kicked out of him.

If he was lucky.

[–]MatlockHolmes 2 points3 points4 points 8 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

And them bitches still made their hairs into pigtails and pranced away from the front lines!

[+]MuffinPants996 -10 points-9 points-8 points 8 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link

/s? Please? You can’t be serious.

[–]KnitBrewTimeTravel 2 points3 points4 points 8 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

You want to get ahead?

Fools who run their mouths oft' wind up dead..

edit: /r/unexpectedHamilton , anyone?

[–]vassie98 0 points1 point2 points 8 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Tbh I don't get it either.

[–][deleted] 19 points20 points21 points 8 years ago (23 children) | Copy Link

if it wasn't for feminism, shit like this wouldn't happen. how many guys do you know who would take on a man with 2x or more muscle mass?

feminism is reality denial... pure clinical hysteria.

[–]jrobinson3k1 9 points10 points11 points 8 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

how many guys do you know who would take on a man with 2x or more muscle mass?

While intoxicated? A lot.

[–]tmoneSpends too much time with ass cheeks spread apart -4 points-3 points-2 points 8 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

comparing feminism to an altered and damaging state of mind. nice. I think you accidentally made their point.

[–]jrobinson3k1 0 points1 point2 points 8 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Read the thread title

[+]MuffinPants996 -18 points-17 points-16 points 8 years ago (19 children) | Copy Link

Feminism is about empowering women and saying they are equal to men. You can’t blame feminism for the crazy ness of a person who probably had terrible parents and never learned how to be anything but a shithead.

[–][deleted] 21 points22 points23 points 8 years ago (16 children) | Copy Link

Feminism is about empowering women and saying they are equal to men.

except they aren't. equality is a myth. if one man can be better than another man, that stands to reason that one man can be better than many men. and if a man can be better than many men, he can also be better than many women. some women are better than some men. some men are better than some women. in certain areas, especially physical areas, most men are laughably better than most women.

either everyone is equal and therefore interchangeable as diversity has no value. or people are not equal and therefore diversity is about having an equal vote at the table.

[–]MuffinPants996 11 points12 points13 points 8 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Having re-examined because of criticism, I’ve found that you are in the right here. I misconstrued your arguement.

[+]MuffinPants996 -21 points-20 points-19 points 8 years ago (14 children) | Copy Link

Eeeeeeh. Disagree. I mean, men rape women way more than the other way around.

[–]geduksz 22 points23 points24 points 8 years ago (12 children) | Copy Link

Holy shit, you just ignored everything he said and droped the rape bomb. Well done

[–]SystemFolder 3 points4 points5 points 8 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

Every argument on the Internet eventually involves either rape or Hitler.

[–]WhalenOnF00ls 0 points1 point2 points 8 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

It’s known as the principle of “reductio ad Hitlerum.”

[+]MuffinPants996 -12 points-11 points-10 points 8 years ago (9 children) | Copy Link

I mean, I was responding to his last point that most men are better than women, when a good portion of the women I know have been sexually assaulted in some way. I agree that there are differences between men and women, but that does t mean we are “better”

[–][deleted] 17 points18 points19 points 8 years ago* (7 children) | Copy Link

A good portion of the men you know have been sexually assaulted too. It's just not 'acceptable' to talk about.

You also seem to have completely skipped over the first part of his last point.

"in certain areas, especially physical areas, most men are laughably better than most women."

On average men have 40% more upper body muscle mass, and 33% lower body muscle mass. So yeah, when it comes to several physical tasks etc men are better. Not ha-ha better, just as a result of the differences in hormones of our bodies.

Men are also WORSE at many things than women. Look at the ability to multi-task. Women on average are significantly better at that compared to men.

We can bring out example after example and debate until the cows come home, but the simple fact is that men and women are different. This difference isn't BAD or GOOD - it just IS. It comes down to the individual level to determine if someone is a good person or a breathing pile of shit. I believe that is what u/the-capitan was originally stating.

[–]MuffinPants996 1 point2 points3 points 8 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link

I guess I misinterpreted difference as insult and I apologize. I agree that, in general, men are stronger than women physically.

[–]HugeMongo -5 points-4 points-3 points 8 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

Look at the ability to multi-task

That's debatable and in my personal experience not true.

[–][deleted] 2 points3 points4 points 8 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Just because a few women you “know” claimed sexual assault, 1. Doesn’t mean it happened; and 2. Doesn’t mean they experience it more than men Stop being an apologist

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point2 points 8 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Not true at all you misandrist

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points3 points 8 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Like many feminists

[–]lawrnk 1 point2 points3 points 8 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Way to take away personal responsibility.

[–]diarrhea_shnitzel 3 points4 points5 points 8 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

Your mom is a straw man

[–]MuffinPants996 -1 points0 points1 point 8 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

GOT ME

[–]quantasmm 1 point2 points3 points 8 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

straw-manning feminism

There has to be a better term for this. claiming that the obese woman embodies feminism is a weak argument meant to be taken down easily, but I cannot in good faith describe it as either straw or man. Perhaps he's sort of lard-bitching feminism?

[–]MuffinPants996 0 points1 point2 points 8 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

I like that. Let’s go with that.

[–]andy83991 0 points1 point2 points 8 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

and it's Glorious!!

[+]Chocodong -6 points-5 points-4 points 8 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

Well, this is a girl-haters sub, so when in Rome...

[–][deleted] 6 points7 points8 points 8 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Oh the poor “girls.”

[–]uncreative121 points 8 years ago [recovered] (4 children) | Copy Link

Ban this person

[–]MuffinPants996 0 points1 point2 points 8 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link

That’s pretty uncreative.

[–]uncreative121 points 8 years ago [recovered] (2 children) | Copy Link

pussy

[–]MuffinPants996 1 point2 points3 points 8 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

Ah name calling, the most intelligent of debate tactics.

[–][deleted] 2 points3 points4 points 8 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

Good point but never underestimate a fat person in a fight. There's a good reason some guys in the UFC are fat

[–]samsc2Cooking up a batch of MRE denials 20 points21 points22 points 8 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

There's a difference between a fat man who's a fighter and a fat woman who's just deluded herself into thinking she's powerful.

[+]DisloX1 points 8 years ago* [recovered] (3 children) | Copy Link

do you have to use the 'r' word? Jesus Christ. it's just as hateful as anything else and it makes the person using it sound ignorant. don't be a cunt like the cunt in the OP.

[–]samsc2Cooking up a batch of MRE denials 8 points9 points10 points 8 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

Retarded is not a hateful word you retarded retard. You need to look up the definition of the word. When someone says "real men like curves" it's them sharing a retarded phrase that retards them as a human because it encourages being obese meaning they aren't developed properly as a human. When you bitch and complain about someone saying the word retard or retarded, you yourself are actually retarded because it shows your lack of education on the english language or a massive delay in your development where you think any use of a specific word must mean hate. Stop being retarded and join the rest of the world.

[–]Flash_hsalF -5 points-4 points-3 points 8 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

You're fucking retarded

[–]ThisToastIsTasty 1 point2 points3 points 8 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

you using the 'r' word is the same thing as saying it.

don't be such a 'c' word

[–]pm_me_ur_anything_k 45 points46 points47 points 8 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link

Man that cop was beyond restrained. Even at the end when she grabs the night stick he keeps it all business.

I hope the public is finally realizing there’s significantly more awesome cops than shitty ones.

[–]teetaps 9 points10 points11 points 8 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link

I don't think anyone is mad at the lack of awesome cops; as you've pointed out, they're there.

People still have a problem with the abundance of sh*tty ones though.

[–]Hip_Hop_Orangutan 6 points7 points8 points 8 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

I don't even think it is the fact there is so many shitty ones...but how the shitty ones are treated and covered up for and usually let go when they do something wrong. If they held accountable and prosecuted...we wouldn't have the protests and issues we have been seeing lately.

[–]teetaps 2 points3 points4 points 8 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Thank you, you make a really good point. We ultimately can't reduce the number of sh*tty ones to zero... But we can at least act appropriately when sh*tty ones do sh*tty things.

[–]FIREDRAGON_B31 1 point2 points3 points 8 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

There are less shitty cops out their then you think. The big problem is that news outlets like to draw a lot of attention to the shitty ones. Let me ask you how many new stories have you heard of police officers shooting white man. If the answer is not many it's not because it happens less, but because it's not going to stir people up as much.

[–]zezima12341 points 8 years ago [recovered] (9 children) | Copy Link

The first time I've found myself hoping the police draws out his gun lmao

[+]Regs2 -101 points-100 points-99 points 8 years ago (8 children) | Copy Link

She gets the kid gloves because she is not black.

[–][deleted] 33 points34 points35 points 8 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

Not black?

[+]aNOOBis_ -16 points-15 points-14 points 8 years ago* (1 child) | Copy Link

looks latina to me , she may have some afro-latin blood in her. Certainly not black

[–][deleted] 11 points12 points13 points 8 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Looks pretty black

[–]wompirebat 2 points3 points4 points 8 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

I've alway been partial to kit gloves.

[–]livingcode 1 point2 points3 points 8 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

I wouldn't really call being slammed in the stomach and tackled to the ground kid gloves...

[–]andy83991 0 points1 point2 points 8 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Yes she is

[–]Robotshavenohearts 30 points31 points32 points 8 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link

This woman gets shot, and a town gets looted.

[–][deleted] 3 points4 points5 points 8 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

Nah she's not black

[–]andy83991 0 points1 point2 points 8 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Wut?

[–][deleted] 33 points34 points35 points 8 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link

Let see...black-ish? Yep...fat butter Golem? Yep...Obligatory hand/fist slapping? Yep...loud mouthed and obnoxious? Yep...have fun in county...

[–]Soup_or_Die1 points 8 years ago [recovered] (3 children) | Copy Link

fat butter golem

!redditsilver

[–][deleted] 4 points5 points6 points 8 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Thanks friend!

[–][deleted] 2 points3 points4 points 8 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

If you like that, join us over at r/holdmyfries !

[–]RedditSilverRobot 2 points3 points4 points 8 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Here's your Reddit Silver, Herr-trigger20!

/u/Herr-trigger20 has received silver 1 time. (given by /u/Soup_or_Die) info

[–]WestOn27th 5 points6 points7 points 8 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

That gut shot was straight out of a movie, execution and reaction.

[–]charliej02 3 points4 points5 points 8 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Wait... if she was drunk then we can't possibly expect her to be held responsible for this!

I mean if she was intoxicated then she COULDN'T have known what she was doing or have consented to that fight, right?

/s

[–]PurplePickel 6 points7 points8 points 8 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

A cop randomly in a fist fight with a woman in the middle of a busy road seems like the most GTA thing ever.

[–]raccoonwitharifle 2 points3 points4 points 8 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

All we need now is the fact that she hijacked a car and used it to mow down pedestrians prior to facing the officer.

[–]mars_rovinator 5 points6 points7 points 8 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

That is the dictionary motherfuckin' definition of ratchet.

[–]Chronic-lesOfGnaRnia 8 points9 points10 points 8 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Allegedly

[–]emceelokey 14 points15 points16 points 8 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Bet her latest facebook post is "me too"

[–]WARLORD_MWO 2 points3 points4 points 8 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Just taze her, man!

[–]Deacon75 2 points3 points4 points 8 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

She had quick feet. Probably not the first club she avoided. Lot of restraint showed by Officer, but he needs a round of BP.

[–]Aviconus 2 points3 points4 points 8 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Where is this cow's handler at?

[–]coconut-cake 2 points3 points4 points 8 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Long Beach, California what a wacky town amirite?

[–]Drinkycrow84 2 points3 points4 points 8 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Who taught him how to use a baton like that?

[–]SamuelArk 2 points3 points4 points 8 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Who is she?

Honestly what the heck is her deal? I dislike authority as much as the next guy, but she is without tact, she's sloppy and goading on an escalated response.

This goes beyond woman entitlement, this is something else.

[–]rokudaimehokage 6 points7 points8 points 8 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Wow, how dare that police officer restrain that clearly insane black woman.

[–]nebuNSFW 1 point2 points3 points 8 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Why is this cop by himself?

[–]AugustFirstLA 1 point2 points3 points 8 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Such a good video! Damn it's tight

Who made it ?

[–]loki-things 1 point2 points3 points 8 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

I was thinking of doing that myself next time I get trashed. I'm glad she did it first so I can know the outcome. I always appreciate someone that will take the beach for ya.

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points3 points 8 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Long beach, ca. Pacific avenue and anaheim.

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points3 points 8 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Allegedly?

[–]TheDemeisen 1 point2 points3 points 8 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

But drunk women are not responsible for their actions...

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point2 points 8 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

She obviously did not consent to acting like a cunt

[–]SadCritters 1 point2 points3 points 8 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

I'm sure somewhere she posted "I didn't do nuffin'!".

[–]elesdee 1 point2 points3 points 8 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

I liked the part where he fucking whalloped her with that stick and she was like ahhhhhhhhh that hurt

[–][deleted] 7 points8 points9 points 8 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link

let me guess, black people are mad about this?

[–]pm_me_ur_anything_k 12 points13 points14 points 8 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

Ehhhh she looks Hispanic? TECHNICALLY WHITE

[–]scottcockerman 19 points20 points21 points 8 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

Only when convenient.

[–]Cawlite 13 points14 points15 points 8 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Schrodinger's whiteness.

[–][deleted] 7 points8 points9 points 8 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Arent they always mad at white cops no matter what?

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points3 points 8 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Ugh, what a hideous threat to public safety

[–]Herbooo 1 point2 points3 points 8 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

TaZe that bitch

[–]Fat_n_Ugly_Luvr 0 points1 point2 points 8 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

These BLM protests sure are getting stranger.

[–]THETRUMPTRUTHTRAIN 0 points1 point2 points 8 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

She’s a beast

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point2 points 8 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Put that fat bitch down.

[–]MACDwannabe 0 points1 point2 points 8 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Pretty sure she was given 90% of a pussy pass

[–]thealienelite1 points 8 years ago* [recovered] (4 children) | Copy Link

For fucks sake, this is why cops should be taught BJJ. The issue wouldve been resolved immediately.

[–]akevarsky 1 point2 points3 points 8 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link

Grappling while you have a firearm on your person probably should not be your first choice.

[–]thealienelite1 points 8 years ago* [recovered] (1 child) | Copy Link

I disagree particularly if you're grappling someone with zero knowledge of BJJ. They'd be neutralized quickly.

[–]akevarsky 2 points3 points4 points 8 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

As a police officer you have little to no idea of what skill set someone might have. Getting into a position where the perp can grab your gun is not safe.

[–]GotSomeOliveInYaSkin 0 points1 point2 points 8 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Additionally, the vast majority of police holsters are designed in such a way that there is a locking mechanism that requires you to disengage a slide-lock, sometimes two "switches" simultaneously. They are positioned in such a way that it's cumbersome and difficult to attempt removal from the front or opposite rear side.

Furthermore, high or not, it's not in the least bit difficult for a grown man to incapacitate an unarmed grown woman....without having to bash in her knees. She almost got a hold of the baton herself. I'm not claiming this is excessive force, but it damn sure was excessive effort and a terrible display of tactic.

/Reddit, commence with your Internet tough-guy insults.

[–]backalleybrawler 0 points1 point2 points 8 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

That moonwalk though!

[–]decepticonwaffles 0 points1 point2 points 8 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Lol this happened in my hometown.

[–]metaknight95 0 points1 point2 points 8 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

I winced so hard at the thought of how her knees must feel after taking a nightstick to them like that. Jesus Christ

[–]Supes_man 0 points1 point2 points 8 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Does he not have a tazer? I’ve seen people brought down for much less.

[–]londonxsmith 0 points1 point2 points 8 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Snooki?

[–]nhlroyalty 0 points1 point2 points 8 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

/r/titlegore

[–]MarconisTheMeh 0 points1 point2 points 8 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

That officer should learn a double leg.

[–]Javi82 0 points1 point2 points 8 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

This cop needs to learn how to fight

[–]quantasmm 0 points1 point2 points 8 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

hats off to the man in blue here. controlled a non-compliant citizen in a dangerous situation with what looks like some mild bruising.

[–]IvoShandor 0 points1 point2 points 8 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Should get her together with the woman "satisfying herself" on the fountain.

[–]kind_of_a_big_deal_ 0 points1 point2 points 8 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

This looks like a fight straight from a GTA game!

[–]incognito7917 0 points1 point2 points 8 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

She needs a crotch punch.

[–]Radical_Notion 0 points1 point2 points 8 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

/u/stabbot

[–]stabbot 0 points1 point2 points 8 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

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[–]TXFDA 0 points1 point2 points 8 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

I like how a dude got involved to help cuff her.

[–]ReasonReader 0 points1 point2 points 8 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

While I support the officer's actions in this instance, I'm not greatly impressed by his combat skills. He needs to lay off the donuts and hit the Dojo.

[–]affenhitze -2 points-1 points0 points 8 years ago (12 children) | Copy Link

God help me, I’m slightly aroused

[–]cdc194 6 points7 points8 points 8 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link

She looks like Maria from Eastbound and Down... no bueno.

[–]bryanrobh 1 point2 points3 points 8 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link

How shocked were you when they showed her tits. I know I was

[–]Shadowchaos 0 points1 point2 points 8 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

Yeah, sadly they weren't actually hers though

[–]bryanrobh 0 points1 point2 points 8 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Oh shit they found someone equally gross to flash

[–]cdc194 0 points1 point2 points 8 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Which time? In front of Stevie in Mexico or after they crossed the border into the US in the Denali?

[–]ShortWarrior 2 points3 points4 points 8 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Oh no baby, what is you doin'.

[–]scottcockerman 3 points4 points5 points 8 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link

Get some standards.

[–]affenhitze 4 points5 points6 points 8 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

No

[–]Cawlite 3 points4 points5 points 8 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

The lower the standards, the higher the success rate.

[–]WhalenOnF00ls 2 points3 points4 points 8 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

-Cave Johnson.

[–]zombiesatthebeach 2 points3 points4 points 8 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

I would

[–]affenhitze 1 point2 points3 points 8 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Thank you

[–]TheOtherOneIsDead -1 points0 points1 point 8 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

black-ish? ?

Seriously? A comment reveals much more about you than it does about this crazy chick.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point2 points 8 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Land whale got harpooned.

[–]sobieski84 -3 points-2 points-1 points 8 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

looks like a Democrat

[–]steven_speilberg 3 points4 points5 points 8 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Probably an illegal alien.

[–]whoocares -1 points0 points1 point 8 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Hes man enough to go up against a female, but any other dude would've been shot and probably killed. #acab

[–]ScottyINeedMorePower -4 points-3 points-2 points 8 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

He gave her wayyy too much leeway. Imagine if that was a black man. Coming up the the car in such a confrontational manner would have been the end of that.

[+]HothOurYou -7 points-6 points-5 points 8 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

If she was black she would have been shot immediately and no one (myself included) would have cared.

[+]ChupacabraPlus1 points 8 years ago* [recovered] (10 children) | Copy Link

Fuckin pig couldn't even hit a drunk chick with his little stick.

[–]WelsCain 14 points15 points16 points 8 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

She had pretty good reflexes for someone who's drunk.

[–]DoktorSleepless 1 point2 points3 points 8 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

I got a PCP vibe from her, not drunk. I think she would have lost balance much easier during that ordeal if just simply drunk.

[–][deleted] 18 points19 points20 points 8 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

You make it sound so easy to pacify an intoxicated person while causing as little damage as possible.

[–]bigschmitt 1 point2 points3 points 8 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

Have you ever heard of a tazer?

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point2 points 8 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

If you read the comments above, you can answer that question for yourself.

[–][deleted] 24 points25 points26 points 8 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

At least he's doing something important other than you who's calling people niggers and playing hearthstone all day. Cunt.

[–]Loxe 6 points7 points8 points 8 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

What's a magats?

[–]SystemFolder 2 points3 points4 points 8 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

I think he’s trying to spell maggots, but he can’t spell it close enough for autocorrect to correct it for him.

[+]sublimation_creation -9 points-8 points-7 points 8 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Wow finally a video where the cop DOESN'T shoot someone.

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