Woman lives as man for 18 months. "I really like being a woman. ... I like it more now because I think it's more of a privilege."

PellagiusTheSane · 2012-05-10T03:35:42+00:00

Sometimes I think that some women see manhood as a child sees adulthood. They think that you get to do what you want and blah blah blah. Walk a mile in a man's shoes and you see that it's not all fun and games. We have to deal with some real stuff out here.

Bobsutan · 2012-05-10T03:26:32+00:00

She was quickly reminded that in this arena, it's women who have the power, she said.

How it works seems to be:

Woman tries to be a guy - finds out guys are actually supportive and friendly with each other. Turns out women don't really want an overly sensitive guy and it's ridiculously demeaning to be a guy trying to talk to a strange woman.
Guys try being women online - finds out it's amazingly awesome. Free gold, gear, attention, special treatment. Turns out you are handed everything on a platter and you only have to work half as hard. Biggest worry is the constant waves of getting to choose who you want around.

darkon · 2012-05-10T02:22:06+00:00

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2012-05-10T03:07:51+00:00

This is something that every woman should be aware of. Any adversity that men face in life is usually downplayed since we get labeled as being privileged.

firelord1973 · 2012-05-10T10:06:28+00:00

it's worth a read, got the book for £.99 on amazon, she does not get it all, but she gets a lot more than most woman do.

Farun · 2012-05-10T02:41:33+00:00

She actually wrote a book about it. Has to much feminist terminology (the patriarchy!!111) for my taste, but otherwise it's pretty interesting: http://www.amazon.com/Self-Made-Man-Womans-Journey-Manhood/dp/0670034665

GeorgeOlduvai · 2012-05-10T08:38:53+00:00

My biggest issue is that no matter how hard she tries, she will never actually get it from a male perspective. She does fairly well...but there are some things that cannot be overcome by simply acting as a man (see strippers etc.).

Collective82 · 2012-05-10T03:21:28+00:00

That was awesome. Thanks for brining that up.

Mylon · 2012-05-10T13:51:38+00:00

Wow. This was an amazing article. Thanks for sharing.

Thuren · 2012-05-10T12:58:10+00:00

Reading this makes me a bit depressed. Are we men doomed to be sensitive but not being able to show it? My last relationship ended as soon as I started opening up, I'll be very careful about opening up the next time. Perhaps it's better to be open with good friends and never open up completely with women you have a romantic interest in? Male bonding has played a much greater role in other cultures historically.

I think one of the problems here is that whenever you mention that women have it easier dating wise, you make yourself seem like a guy who can't get women. Only a guy who clearly has no problems getting women can mention this, and then it will seem like a non-issue because the guy mentioning it doesn't have a problem with it.

I'm not an expert, but I think game theoretically speaking, men are at a disadvantage because we're more desperate about sex and emotional intimacy, this ruins the balance which would otherwise be between women and men (so long as they are about equal in numbers.)

Any ideas about how to solve this? Here's what I've come up with:

Unite and organize, don't let women divide and conquer. Bro's before hoe's as the game theoretical mathematician would say. /MensRights is a great way to organize, but it needs to get bigger than that, we need something like todays feminism but for men. This would work by the same principles as trade unions.
Don't ever crawl in front of a woman, if you want her, try getting her, if she turns you down, break all contact. Don't stay in the friend zone.
Be gay if possible!
Get closer to your friends (men and women), having friends you can be emotionally intimate with makes you less desperate about getting it from a significant other.
Make prostitution more acceptable in your society, why shouldn't we divide and conquer women if they do the same to us? There are ethical problems with some forms of prostitution obviously, but not all.

This might seem a bit extreme, almost like a gender war, and of course peace if preferable, but peace is never good if one side gets to dictate the terms.

Rex9 · 2012-05-10T15:25:12+00:00

Sounds like she missed a big part. She should have gone to a public park and tried to just hang out. Better yet, interact with the mothers/children there. That would have been a REAL lesson.

Hamakua · 2012-05-10T17:27:32+00:00

She continued her emotional descent, and a week later, checked in to a hospital with severe depression. Identity, she concluded, was not something to play around with.

...

Vincent says she's healed now and glad to be rid of Ned. But her views about men have changed forever.

Who wants to guess how many men she ran into when she checked into the hospital for depression at the same time she was?

2012-05-10T08:09:08+00:00

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jb7090 · 2012-05-10T18:41:10+00:00

Vincent saw the men struggle with vulnerability. "They don't get to show the weakness, they don't get to show the affection, especially with each other. And so often all their emotions are shown in rage,"

Thats pretty powerful stuff right there.

Leechen · 2012-05-10T19:35:50+00:00

That was amazing.

ProtoDong · 2012-05-10T03:43:48+00:00

Woman discovers that being a woman is a privilege

Yawn... this is something that more women should learn. American women have been told that they are at a disadvantage so often that they don't see that society has given them privileged status.

Girls get better grades in schools, not because they are smarter but because they are graded more leniently.

Women have an easier time getting a job.

Women get special treatment from law enforcement.

Women hold all the cards in dating.

Marriage law is horribly tilted favoring women.

Women are not expected to take personal responsibility for their problems and failures.

Women don't have to submit to the draft.

the list goes on and on...

altmehere · 2012-05-10T16:35:16+00:00

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2012-05-10T18:21:45+00:00

Posted this a year ago and...crickets. Thanks for bringing it up.

Trahas · 2012-05-10T16:23:47+00:00

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Bobsutan · 2012-05-23T07:07:56+00:00

Pretty good interview as well:

http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=5171860

AryoBarzan · 2012-05-11T00:14:07+00:00

And she didn't even get to accept the greatest privileges of all! Neonatal genital mutilation and a mandatory draft! How sad...

otakuman · 2012-05-10T16:41:40+00:00

Wow. If more women learned about this maybe the world would be a better place.

DavidByron · 2012-05-10T22:42:53+00:00

Seems like a better version of the same account here: http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2006/mar/18/gender.bookextracts

Il128 · 2012-05-10T13:33:23+00:00

Ahhhh DUUHHH!

Title	Woman lives as man for 18 months. "I really like being a woman. ... I like it more now because I think it's more of a privilege."
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Date	May 10, 2012 2:21 AM UTC (14 years ago)
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