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Growing Number of Uneducated, "Lone, Broke" Men Deemed Threat to Society

Meyright2

October 18, 2021
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Title Growing Number of Uneducated, "Lone, Broke" Men Deemed Threat to Society
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Meyright2

Upvotes 507
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Date October 18, 2021 2:11 PM UTC
(4 years ago)
Subreddit Posted in /r/MensRights
Original Link https://old.reddit.com/r/MensRights/comments/qangyh/growing_number_of_uneducated_lone_broke_men/
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[–]Sarkbee 333 points334 points335 points 4 years ago (33 children) | Copy Link

The last paragraph of the article:

Essentially, the theory seems to be that if men don’t have jobs and girlfriends to distract them, their inherent evil starts to seep out. Should men need jobs, relationships and college degrees to keep their dangerous tendencies at bay? I’d like to think not, but unfortunately it seems society has given us plenty of reason to fear the lone broke male. We’ve been warned.

Well that certainly isn't sexist at all. Jesus Christ.

[–]__pulsar 180 points181 points182 points 4 years ago (6 children) | Copy Link

inherent evil

I'm speechless

[–]JayMeadows 134 points135 points136 points 4 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

If by "Inherent Evil" you mean; poor, hungry, homeless, depressed, lonely, ignored, lack of self worth and low esteem with only a few things to help you escape reality....

Then, yeah.

Men are totally inherently evil. I'm super down with the devil, yo. Lol 🤘

[–]EMPIREVSREBLES 44 points45 points46 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Bro didn't women get "evil" by feeling some of these things back around 19th-20th century? Wasn't that empowering how they found and made their own voice in society today?

These things can make anyone "evil" but when it came to women we have to bring them up but now it's men we push them down...

[–]A_Walt_Whitman 25 points26 points27 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Just another long-winded way of saying "woman=good and man=bad".

[–]impastoe 57 points58 points59 points 4 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

If you keep poking a dog with a stick until it gets angry and bites you, that's its "inherent evil" coming out apparently.

[–]Valuable_Passion4938 20 points21 points22 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

I walk into a zoo and give the tiger a little shove if he eats me it’s cause he’s inherently evil

[–]StudentOfTheTruth0 9 points10 points11 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Count me in. Like Jews were inherently evil - for the Nazis.

I have long been saying that feminism = today's fascism. What's so hard to get?

[–]dungeonmonkey69 40 points41 points42 points 4 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link

They know full well that a lone broke male has nothing to lose. Ffs. This is how dudes end up joining terrorist groups and then they scream 'how could this happen??'

[–]jamesbwbevis 24 points25 points26 points 4 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

Exactly. When men have nothing to lose its unstable for society

[–]codyvector 6 points7 points8 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

And less and less everyday…

[–]CanniBal1320 10 points11 points12 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Exactly, u cant go around poking a bear in the balls and when it tears ur arm apart, call it inherently evil.

[–]Thedoritowizard28 71 points72 points73 points 4 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link

So if a man is broke he’s evil? Bruh they’re saying if a man doesn’t have a job he is a threat to society. Society has gotten to the point where if a man doesn’t have a job he’s a threat to society. I hate people who say this crap.

[–]Nihi1986 38 points39 points40 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Broke, ugly or crippled men are evil, did you not know? Only good men are those useful for 'society'.

[–]AirSailer 20 points21 points22 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

It sounds like they are calling ALL Men evil, those who are not lonely and broke seem to just hide it better.

[–]uncutnine 4 points5 points6 points 4 years ago* (0 children) | Copy Link

Well, shit the same “they/them”(including the pro-ric Clintons & our current Potus-labeling us super predators) have Been saying the same repugnant shit about black men& boys for years ,decades ,centuries even.so stop crying

[–]jayjester 13 points14 points15 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

‘Jesus Christ’… a lone broke male.

[–]IoSonCalaf 28 points29 points30 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

If I had to go through a list of everyone I’ve ever known and put them into an “evil” or “not evil” category, there would be a lot more women than men in the “evil” category.

[–]regularcomments 7 points8 points9 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Sounds like the religion of feminism is making them blind.

[–]veryniceguy1980 19 points20 points21 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

fear the lone broke male

The danger is that women do not have enough choice of simps to sponge from or divircerupe

[–]AngelPhoenix77 5 points6 points7 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

I don't have a job (I cant work due to the type of depression I have. Yes it really is that severe.) I only had a gf when I was 11. No woman ever found me attractive. And I know I'm going to die alone. Now these same people are going to tell me I'm evil. No. No way in He$%. Things don't just work out, people put so much expectations on someone, and sneer and call them a threat. When they done live up to them. I've been turned down well over 80 times. And by the laws of average one would have said yes.

[–]InterestingWave0 2 points3 points4 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

can't wait until it's a crime to be unemployed and single. clown world

[–]Illadrex2 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (9 children) | Copy Link

I mean, it's not empirical but it is often intimated that the whole reason terrorist groups exist is because they are brought up in strictly religious societies that ban contact with women...while I'm sure the leaders break those rules all the time because power, it's the grunts who think their devotion will pay off in the end and commit these acts....point being, I don't think the article is too far off.

[–]CEOofHarassment 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (8 children) | Copy Link

You think men are inherently evil? 🤡

[–]Illadrex2 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (7 children) | Copy Link

No, shithead. There is a reason more men are in prison for violent crimes than women, and it's not only because of inequality of law. Its proven that men score lower on agreeableness than women. You know who some of the most disagreeable men on earth are? Men in prison, but specifically those in prison for violent crimes. So no fuck twad we aren't evil, but we don't mind conflict which can translate into criminal behavior. If, fuck face, you couple that with strict religious culture that doesn't allow adolescent and young men to express their natural inclination towards women, less than desirable outcomes might result.

[–]CEOofHarassment -1 points0 points1 point 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Go fuck yourself incel pissbaby chuds. Didn't read, cope. 😂

[–]bluehawk40 -1 points0 points1 point 4 years ago (5 children) | Copy Link

Damn dude, seems like you’re the exact person they were talking about in the article. Calm down a little, they just asked you a question

[–]Illadrex2 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link

No. I actually do well for myself, but I don't need to be afflicted to understand the plight, maybe you should be a little more indignant.

[–]bluehawk40 -1 points0 points1 point 4 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link

I didn’t ask and I don’t really care. Just saying you’re being kind of a prick

[–]Illadrex2 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

Well when the person intimates that you're a clown for voicing an opinion, you get to be a prick

[–]bluehawk40 1 point2 points3 points 4 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

That’s fair, the reply just seemed a little much to me, I’m probably being too judgemental though tbh

[–]Illadrex2 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Cool, cool

[–]KillerBeeStarosu 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

I mean... I agree with them. Getting to the bottom of the bottom brings out the worst of you. Have you seen the homeless veterans? They don't know which world is reality and which isn't. People don't recognize themselves at the bottom.

[–]Nath43673 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

You agree that men are "inherently evil"?

[–]TheSilverShade 104 points105 points106 points 4 years ago* (5 children) | Copy Link

Interesting they finally figured out that calling all men mysogynist incels don't work as shaming tactics.

Now they're trying something new by calling men" Lone and broke".

Let's see how long it lasts.

[–]-IcarusFallen- 24 points25 points26 points 4 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link

I am at a loss as to what they want to achieve via this tbh

[–]SunshineMoonLit 27 points28 points29 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Trying to rile people who already hate men up, nothing more. It's just a new opinion piece to add to the list as "evidence" of men bad.

[–]Ateapotist1983 20 points21 points22 points 4 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

They are trying to achieve a Marxist deconstruction of modern Western civilization because they believe it is inherently oppressive. They're going to be in trouble when they find out that the people they've been putting down and shaming are what holds society together.

[–]InterestingWave0 9 points10 points11 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

this is the opposite of marxist, it is fully capitalist. Same reason feminism was first marketed as equality, but as a movement it was actually progressed by intelligence agencies to get women into the workforce to boost GDP. What has been deconstructed here? Family system has been broken down and the traditional father role has been replaced by the state. Wealth inequality is rising, inflation is rising and both of these mean that people are keeping less of the profits of their labor comparatively. How is that Marxist? Propaganda is being used to turn people against their neighbors but do you notice how there is never any propaganda about the wealth class that is benefiting from all of this? It is so they can distract everyone from who is actually robbing their pockets blind.

[–]InterestingWave0 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

They are criminalizing non-comformity to the system, piece by piece (ideologically at first with the use of propaganda because these kinds of movements are fought and won in the hearts and minds of people), so that they can attempt to better control the economy and consumer habits in an effort to boost GDP.

[–]DanteLivra 103 points104 points105 points 4 years ago (5 children) | Copy Link

Funny how uneducated broke women are seen as a human right issue but uneducated broke men are seen as dangerous and getting what they deserve for being... evil ? Did we went back in time to the medieval era ?

[–]Legitimate-Ad-6267 24 points25 points26 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Prepare thee for ye nu monarchy.

[–]Greg_W_Allan 13 points14 points15 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Did we went back in time to the medieval era ?

We never left it.

[–]dungeonmonkey69 8 points9 points10 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Corporate feudalism is the goal

[–]Valuable_Passion4938 5 points6 points7 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Mental gymnastics 🤸‍♀️

[–]regularcomments 3 points4 points5 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

We never leave the medieval era. We just replaced the devil for the patriarchy.

[–]hottake_toothache 219 points220 points221 points 4 years ago (8 children) | Copy Link

They express fear, rather than sympathy, because people don't care about men.

[–]Valuable_Passion4938 48 points49 points50 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Exactly

[+]UltraNebbish -61 points-60 points-59 points 4 years ago (5 children) | Copy Link

I'm more or less a passerby in this sub.

I'm astounded that virtually none of you seek the source of the malign social engineering that weaponizes the man-woman interface.

Hint: It's not fat, blue haired lesbians. For Christ's sake, read some history and quit bathing in agit-prop (and videogaming, that has created a generation of eternal adolescents)

[–]NiceNob 28 points29 points30 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

How is your comment even remotely related to the post. You should stop watching cringe compilation videos and projecting it on everyone

[–]InterestingWave0 9 points10 points11 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

well speak up then and tell us what it is. we're all dying to know.

[–]BlueChair0 3 points4 points5 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Interesting, another troll

[–]Felarhin 1 point2 points3 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

We do.

[–]BeNice_777 145 points146 points147 points 4 years ago (20 children) | Copy Link

"Reports of “golden penis syndrome” on female-dominated college campuses have already pointed out that students in the male minority are in high sexual demand, reaping and arguably exploiting the benefits of the growing college gender gap while their abundance of female classmates struggle to find matches among the much smaller dating pool of eligible men."

So the fact that men are being actively excluded from college education results in college educated women being further exploited by the shrinking minority of men who remain.

This is beyond fucked up.

[–]Dynged 43 points44 points45 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

It just goes to show that no matter what the problem is, who it primarily effects, or who caused it in the first place with their gynocentric bullshit, women will always play the victim; because as we all heard from Clinton, it is women who are always the primary victims of war, not the hundreds of thousands of men and boys who were killed, but the women, because even our death is seen as an inconvenience to them.

[–]Meyright2[S] 101 points102 points103 points 4 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link

Yes, male suffering is invisible to humans. It is what it is and it sucks

[–]TFME1 22 points23 points24 points 4 years ago* (2 children) | Copy Link

While it definitely feels that way, Male suffering is not invisible to all humans. It is not invisible to me. There are many who recognize and acknowledge it and that group is growing.

[–]sorebum405 18 points19 points20 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

In general it is.

[–]Nihi1986 5 points6 points7 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

We aren't even wired to care more about a suffering man than a suffering woman. It's biological and evolutive...

I certainly care about male suffering and I know many peole do, but it's an uphill battle, and I still care more in the moment, unconciously, instinctively, about a female suffering if I can even see her there, around me.

[–]Maxwell1138 41 points42 points43 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

"Young men opting out of college at record levels.
Female sex life most affected."

[–]officerfriendlyrick7 14 points15 points16 points 4 years ago (13 children) | Copy Link

In my country it’s literally the opposite of that, there’s too many heterosexual men without any women, so young girls have very inflated self-worth. It’s hilarious US has become opposite of that.

[–]Brave-Evidence2793 38 points39 points40 points 4 years ago (8 children) | Copy Link

Not quite, somehow the women here still have inflated self-worth

[+]officerfriendlyrick7 -9 points-8 points-7 points 4 years ago (6 children) | Copy Link

Well atleast they doll up well for men by staying lean throughout their lives, those things are exclusive to western women, they are in great shape in their late 30s and early 40s, where I’m from there’s lack of muscle mass as there’s a national protein deficiency in diet.

[–]Brave-Evidence2793 18 points19 points20 points 4 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link

…USA women have the highest obesity rate isn’t he world

[–]officerfriendlyrick7 -4 points-3 points-2 points 4 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

Source? I think it’s overall statistics of obesity not just for women. I’ve seen a few obesity stats from US, I haven’t seen one specifically for women, but I doubt your claim is correct.

[–]Brave-Evidence2793 5 points6 points7 points 4 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

I never said it was just women, but we were talking about specifically women.

Claiming people in the USA have the highest obesity rate does not on its own imply that the women isn’t he USA are equally represented in that statistic

[–]officerfriendlyrick7 -4 points-3 points-2 points 4 years ago* (0 children) | Copy Link

Have you checked the age groups in those stats? Cause it probably includes all age groups, countries with higher level of simple carb in their diet are by and large either more obese or skinny-fat I would say, maybe there isn’t a proper study done about this.

Here’s a link about fitness levels in US and Europe:

https://www.google.co.in/amp/s/www.huffpost.com/archive/ca/entry/country-exercise-most-_n_4523537/amp

[–]Extra-Strike2276 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

You watch to much tv lol. It's rare to see a decent looking women in person. Some areas are better like california and Florida, but most are the opposite. The biggest problem in the US is the food available is full of sugar, and most rather choose the crap then the stuff good for you. Don't believe the propaganda our country puts out, it's more like the comedy skits then what they protray

[–]officerfriendlyrick7 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Nope, countries with better quality of life and good nutritional diet have people who are in better shape, even wealth and beauty also has a strong correlation, not to mention western beauty standards are super high, clearly western countries in general have a better dating market as well, it is pretty basic stuff everybody knows, you should travel the world before harshly judging your country.

[–]bgibson8708 15 points16 points17 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

They still have inflated self worth. They’re all strong independent and don’t want/need a boyfriend. Until their clock starts ticking.

[–]dakotasundaybro 5 points6 points7 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Except US women are like that, they only go for attractive guys.

[–]newyorkloser45 2 points3 points4 points 4 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

Girls in the US have inflated sense of self worth as well. Nearing sociopathic levels might I add

[–]officerfriendlyrick7 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

There are positives and negatives in both western women and non western submissive types from modest cultures, there’s always trade offs.

[–]newyorkloser45 28 points29 points30 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Villainize these lonely men for no reason at all and call them terrorists baselessly instead of empathizing with their plight. I'm not fearing these men, I'm fearing the callousness of this crass society.

Reverse genders and everyone would be showering them with donations and asking for their onlyfans and paypal

[–]cpt_justice 24 points25 points26 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Men are in increasingly desperate situation; women most affected. News at 11.

[–]Meyright2[S] 77 points78 points79 points 4 years ago* (3 children) | Copy Link

This is societies reaction to uneducated, alone and poor men. You are not an individual worthy of help, but perceived as a threat.

I haven't posted here for a year or so, this article I saw was another reminder and wake-up call.But unfortunately I have to say, in all this time, the men's rights movement made almost no ground. The short spike in interest around 2015-2017 because of overbearing feminism, maybe with it's peak with the movie The Red Pill by Cassie Jaye, has fizzled out. Imo, there maybe never was an actual interest for the rights of men by society, but more in the resistance against feminism which has now moved on to wokism. I even see former resistant voices from the past teaming up with feminists against wokism, defending female only spaces, with no self reflection from feminist on what they did to men and their spaces during that time.

I actually lost all hope that there will ever be any interest in the plight of men. Society will collapse way before anyone dares to think about men. Just my 2 cents

[–]SweatyAdvance 39 points40 points41 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Even more so, I expect upon collapse, men will be called upon to fix things and then shamed even more when they say no.

[–]rahsoft 21 points22 points23 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

which has now moved on to wokism

this is the more likely reason.

its affected not just gender , but race , sexuality and age groups..

I think its a result of multiple decades of a screwed up political correctness education system..

[–]sorebum405 13 points14 points15 points 4 years ago* (0 children) | Copy Link

I actually lost all hope that there will ever be any interest in the plight of men. Society will collapse way before anyone dares to think about men. Just my 2 cents

I totally agree.I have said this before, society does not care about men's issues unless it negatively impacts women, or society as a whole.I think the op's post is a great example of that.The only thing I'm wondering is what will men do to cope with this issue of loneliness.I think alot of men will probably turn to self-destructive behavior like eating lots of junk food, drinking alcohol, doing drugs, play video games excessively etc. I also came across a post on quora that talks about men possibly turning to sex dolls, and I found it very interesting.Who knows what will happen in the future it will be interesting to see.

[–]DirtyPartyMan 22 points23 points24 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Could it be the divorces where laws already in place empowered women to steal everything they could before moving on through family court systems heavily leaning towards the mothers have anything to do with it?

No?

[–]jslnk 68 points69 points70 points 4 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

“The child who is not embraced by the village will burn it down to feel it’s warmth.” - African proverb

They’re not wrong. The question is: what is a society that is more concerned that a woman was interrupted in a meeting than in the real struggles of men going to do about it?

The answer is most likely - keep kicking that dog and then act shocked when it turns and bites.

[–]flowingwisdom13 14 points15 points16 points 4 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

It really depends I think and if that proverb is to be applied in this day and age, the burned down village would be the destroyed social cohesion, if I can call it that way. I think the incentives and structures are put around society to control men as they are the real agents of change. Short of a rebellion, which would require mass thinking, which requires numbers (sadly too many white knights), the only other way I can think of it working is men going their own way and disengaging totally from the system; in a significant amount, which again requires numbers. I suspect when it will come to a burning point, society to safe guard it’s interest will simply revert. Like China is doing now, combatting feminism openly.

[–]jslnk 13 points14 points15 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

You’re thinking that it needs to be an organized, orderly and structured burning. It’s doesn’t. It can be seen in school shootings, crime waves, deteriorating cities, and many of the other ills of society that the mainstream media likes to blame on “domestic extremists” in order to cover the fact that it’s a rampant problem predicated on the progressive idea that government can (and should) dictate human nature to its own ends.

You’re right, it will look like destroyed social cohesion. We’re already there. That ship is already over the horizon.

[–]throwawayincelacc 60 points61 points62 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

The article is disgusting and the sub-article about golden penis syndrome even more so. They're calling out men who may for once in their life actually be on the receiving end of attention.

And that when given the option between being consciously uncoupled or being with a v average dude who thinks his penis is pure gold, you already know what to pick.

So yup, already they're putting down the average man here.

The problem is they don't want to "settle" for the average man no matter how average or below average they are themselves. They've created the golden-penis-syndrome by their own actions and then try to denounce it when men have had no involvement in it. It's literally what the original incel term was addressing and here they are flaunting it publicly that they do consider average men as sub-human.

[–]__pulsar 47 points48 points49 points 4 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

Naturally, most women who have put the time, money and energy into earning a college degree might not be particularly thrilled by the prospect of settling down with man who hasn’t done the same.

"Naturally, most women are gold diggers."

[–]Mr-X1 22 points23 points24 points 4 years ago* (0 children) | Copy Link

It is also funny how the reverse of that situation (i.e. a better educated higher status man choosing an "inferior" woman) is generally seen as normal and not often questioned.

[–]Aedrian87 44 points45 points46 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Thank you for not giving this sexist publication any ad revenue.

This is a particularly en raging example of "Men excluded from college, women most affected".

[–]Nihi1986 14 points15 points16 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

The article is beyond evil and psychopathic, but I agree. Call it the evil nature of men if you want, I don't care...a broke, lonely and desperate man is a threat to whoever he thinks is to blame. And if the answer is giving them an easier acces to those things (girlfriend, decent job, degrees...) I'm more than fine with it.

Btw everyday it's clearer to me that we live under a distopic dictatorship. It's unbelievable that everything can be banned or censored due to hate speech, racism and misoginy but this article is allowed.

[–]Futureman999 12 points13 points14 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Meanwhile on CNN no less: No college degree? More employers than ever just don't care

The college professor who makes his money getting students to go into debt to pay his salary is conflating earning a good income with going to college for four years and studying any random thing at all.

It's like when banks complain millennials aren't taking out enough mortgage loans to buy houses. Wedding planners bemoaning the decline in expensive weddings and so on.

[–]_2N0AVA1L 12 points13 points14 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

but women with the same problems get help

[–]g1455ofwater 12 points13 points14 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Don't discriminate based on immutable characteristics...Unless it's men, then kick them when they're down.

[–]Novitschok 60 points61 points62 points 4 years ago (20 children) | Copy Link

Isn't this basically what MGTOW already said, just butthurt about it? I'd be offended about this article, but perceive its publication rather as a victory. It shows that MGTOW are succeding.

[–]baldestpianoman 36 points37 points38 points 4 years ago (15 children) | Copy Link

I mean Mgtow looked like a hate group but damn they always knew the truth before everyone else

[–]someone_butnoone 49 points50 points51 points 4 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

MGTOW never hated women, they just wanted nothing to do with them. Focusing on themselves and careers instead of sex life and marriage

[–]Dynged 41 points42 points43 points 4 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

See, that's the problem to them: men putting ourselves first for once is an existential threat to their way of life. Men putting men first means no more wage slave, no more on demand sperm dispenser, no more socially approved punching bag, and no more female control over males. That last one scares the unholy shit out of them too; if they cant control men through sex, marriage, holding his kids hostage, or out right bullying, then they lose all their power in society.

There's a damn good reason feminist inc has done everything in its power to convince gay men that any hatred we face in society is because of misogyny, that we're just seen as limp wristed sissies, despite the fact that a lot of blatant homophobia comes from women. They cant tolerate any man not putting them first and centering their bullshit in his life.

[–]lookingforinsight2 2 points3 points4 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

The last paragraph is what I find so frustrating among gay men; they’ve somehow allowed abstract & inapplicable ideas to sour both self-perception AND their perception of men (they claim to love.) I understand that a lot of it is a result of isolation they felt from other boys in early age, but there’s nothing more pitiful than a grown man who’s still stuck in that ditch.

This is why I suggest all gay men to read John Lauritsen’s “Freethinker’s Primer of Male Love.”

There are other historical texts which examine the complexity behind “male love” (which wasn’t confined to eroticism), but the text is a good starting point.

[–]Dynged 43 points44 points45 points 4 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link

There were some actual rabid misogynists in MGTOW, however they were no worse than the rabid misandrists in feminism. Its hilariously hypocritical that society judges one of those as a hate movement while championing the other, considering MGTOW was actually correct in a lot of its observations, whereas the modern iteration of feminism is almost always wildly incorrect in its observations.

[–]Comfortable-Hat-8626 26 points27 points28 points 4 years ago* (2 children) | Copy Link

You are right.

The shit feminists say and get away with is incredible though. Some well known and revered feminists such as Sally Miller Gearhart actually advocate committing genocide against the male gender. We should be "reduced" to 10% of the population according to her (and others). Absolutely evil.

This goes far beyond what any misogynistic MGTOW guy might say.

Mind you, her teachings are uncensored and published in books without major outrage or controversy. Unreal.

[–]Nihi1986 15 points16 points17 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

I bet those 10% men aren't exactly the most intelligent or those with the best behaviour. Just f***ing gigachads.

Anyway, misandry is promoted and even enforced by the media and governments. It's not even something society asked for, not even the majority of women.

[–]TheSilverShade 13 points14 points15 points 4 years ago* (0 children) | Copy Link

Let's not forget any criticism or disagreement from mgtow or men to women is seen as hate speech and misogyny.

[–]SunshineMoonLit 11 points12 points13 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

I use to go to both subs a bit before to just see what's up and keep a gauge on the movements, while MGTOW said some pretty unsavory stuff, it's not even remotely close in quantity and users as the insane shit almost every female sub says. It may have been one of the worst male spaces on reddit, but it does not compare to the litany of female subs absolutely shitting on men, spreading hateful bull shit anecdotes, and literally calling for death of men because, well, men.

[+]Nihi1986 -11 points-10 points-9 points 4 years ago (6 children) | Copy Link

MGTOW was an echo chamber full of hate (though the ultimate goal was not about hate at all). It quickly became a place for incels who refused to self identify as incels. 99% of the posts on their forums looked like they were written by the same guy eventhough they weren't (that's how much of a brainwashing echo chamber it was). Not saying they were wrong in everything, also not saying there's anything wrong with every incel. In fact, I think the manosphere is generally right (though often exaggerated).

[–]impastoe 12 points13 points14 points 4 years ago (5 children) | Copy Link

People only use the word "hate" when they're talking about men, specifically white men. And you're perpetuating that bullcrap by posting comments like these.

Notice how the incel movement completely disappeared when it was banned off of reddit? That's how harmless and ineffectual they were as a group, that being banned off of one website was enough to kill them.

Yet that doesn't stop people like you from fear mongering over them, because your fear comes from a place of hate, and a desire to prevent people from having a voice in society.

[+]Nihi1986 -6 points-5 points-4 points 4 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link

You are assuming too much shit from an objective and true statement I made about MGTOW. I have to tell you that I was reading (daily) and often posting for a whole year in MGTOW after going through hell due to my ex gf.

MGTOW had loads and loads of hate. And even more loads after those. Was basically a male version of fat feminist spaces.

I supported them and I still support them. Same with incels (cause I think they need their space).

What you won't see me doing is being delusional and lying. I know what MGTOW is about and how most MGTOWs were. Even lots of old MGTOWs left the sub when every post was full of hate (and often fake or a repost).

'I was depressed cause I'm a virgin but it turns out, I'm not a Virgin! I'm just going my own way! Thanks, mgtow, you saved my life!'

That's not even a joke, that's a post I read and I read hundreds of similar posts.
And don't get me started with the posts I read on incel sites (though I still support them and know many of them, amazing people most of them).

There's no shaming here, there's no hate from me, but I'm a man and I see and tell the truth. Let's not pretend the majority of mgtows weren't hating women, they clearly were (and I was, and sometimes still am, getting surgery in my spine next month thanks to a drunk driving woman who got nothing but a fine as consequence).

[–]impastoe 6 points7 points8 points 4 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link

no one cares.

[+]Nihi1986 -7 points-6 points-5 points 4 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

About what? My arguments?

God...some MGTOWs and incels are literally the male version of fat pink haired feminists... that's the reason I stopped being in those subs and forums after a year, should've been a month instead, honestly. Hope this sub doesn't become another hateful echo chamber untrue to its purpose and goals.

[–]impastoe 7 points8 points9 points 4 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

Not really, pink haired feminists have a huge sway in modern society and the average person will listen to what they have to say and take them seriously. Incels and lonely white men, on the other hand, have to deal with the people like you mocking them and reducing their voice, while being socially acceptable to do so.

[–]Nihi1986 1 point2 points3 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

I know what you mean but I've been in those places and identifying as one of them for over a year. That's not what I do, I don't shame and I support them, but I am a man and I demand honesty, logic and reason.

If a guy is hating on women he's hating on women, and I'd rather see no woman or man hates on anyone but I understand they need to vent. What I can't aprove is an old man telling a young depressed teen to remain virgin and avoid women, sex and relationships (that's perfectly fine but shouldn't be an excuse to rationalize anything, if you need and want a woman go get one or find happiness somewhere else, just don't lie to yourself).

And I've been burnt very badly by women and past relationships but I'm not going to tell young men to avoid relationships eventhough I think it's actually a great advice, but that's part of life and being told to avoid them doesn't work, you have to decide it for yourself.

Btw pink haired fat feminists are mocked and ignored by 'society'. Media, journalists and governments on the other hand... (Hint: feminism is not really born from society, it's a tool and it's being spoon fed on everyone nowadays, it's enforced by governments, mulltimillionaire companies and obscure characters belonging to the elites)

[–]Nihi1986 -1 points0 points1 point 4 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link

I think you meant incels. MGTOW ultimatw goal has nothing to do with hate or being a threat...unless you are talking about what they call the redpill rage stage, but it's not supposed to be permanent.

[–]Novitschok 3 points4 points5 points 4 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

I never said anything about hate. I meant it more as the notion "walking away from the planatation is the best thing you can do to flee from slavery" which seems commonly accepted by MGTOW. If enough men walk away, society is forced to change for the better.

[–]Nihi1986 -1 points0 points1 point 4 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

Yes, but the article says men are full of hate and a threat, it didn't say they walked away.

This doesn't remind me to mgtow end goal, it rather sounds like incel or redpill rage phase. I guess you could say these men walk away but they wouldn't be considered a threat by the idiot who wrote the article if that was the case. (Hence why he seems to be pointing at incels)

Anyway that's irrelevant, it'd be great if this man hating article was taken seriously because at least it states that men are unhappy and some of the reasons (dating, jobs, education...)

At this point I'd like to believe in a brighter future for men even if it's born from fear.

[–]Novitschok 2 points3 points4 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

It does "young men who aren't attaching to work, school and relationships" , this is effectively what walking away is describing for some.

And I think, fear is good. The more people fear these guys, the more will ask why the are like that. Hopefully

[–]rahsoft 36 points37 points38 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Growing Number of Uneducated, "Lone, Broke"

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Uneducated - well given that the men are harassed and portrayed as potential rapists and women are given affirmative action despite being the majority , then no wonder fewer men are getting educated.

Lone - Again given the threat of false allegations,portrayal as "creepy" etc, Domestic violence and abuse, divorce rape and loss of their children, then no wonder more men are alone.

Broke - again affirmative action for women and institutional abuse( by obstructing men from education ).

the only reason it would be considered dangerous as men drop out of society is because( and not exclusive)

  1. the women would have to get off their backside and do the three Ds ( dirty, difficult and dangerous ) jobs. Also good luck trying to boost the tax revenue rates that are used to provide your services which are predominately used by......
  2. with less and less income the men become less attractive to women who demand high income( to spend) and thus end up chasing the top 5% of men( and failing to get into the LTRs they want)
  3. men like any other human being will behave differently when they have nothing left to lose, and that would include voting, protecting women( which the women want without any of the responsibility) etc
  4. the women will turn on each other( which they have kinda starting doing), Y the last man shows some examples.

But hey you feminists.. You go girl !!!

[–]TFME1 9 points10 points11 points 4 years ago* (2 children) | Copy Link

Unsurprisingly, this imbalance doesn’t magically correct itself after graduation. Naturally, most women who have put the time, money and energy into earning a college degree might not be particularly thrilled by the prospect of settling down with man who hasn’t done the same, prompting what Galloway calls a “mating inequality” in the US.

I guess the women are no better than the men, in this respect. I recall reading about how successful people seek out other equally (or more) successful partners, for pair-bonding. Seems the feminist hyper-egalitarianism may just be a "wishful (but still fake) facade".

[–]amazinglyaloneracist 7 points8 points9 points 4 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

Men often will date and marry down in social class than women who almost exclusively date up classes

[–]TFME1 3 points4 points5 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Men will date/marry down once, maybe twice... Then they'll realize that there's no upside to doing so, learn the lesson and then will date/marry equals or more successful exclusively.

[–]hectorgarabit 8 points9 points10 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

While the issues this article mention are real, the lack of empathy and downright misandry is appalling.

The "journalist" doesn't wonder why men cannot or refuse to go to college.

He also fails to see how women refusing to marry men who make less than them is a problem. In short, if men makes money they are evil, if they don't they are dangerous...

Last if men enrollment plummet (and it does) and the M/F ratio in STEM doesn't change (and it doesn't), that means that the number of STEM graduates is going down. We all know that the economy of the future will require a lot of STEM graduates (Math, Computer science, etc...). This is bad for the US economy for the next 20 years.

[–]antifeminist3 6 points7 points8 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Amazing how they frame it almost entirely on university. Women are more likely to go to university and get liberal arts degrees which are less helpful in getting a job. Men are more likely to go into university fields directly connection to training for a job. This means women are more likely to get a university degree that does not help in getting a job.

[–]TracyMorganFreeman 6 points7 points8 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Or course they are. They aren't subsidizing women so they're not just invisible but seen as a threat.

[–]Fast-Mongoose-4989 17 points18 points19 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

This is messed up

[–]purplelightofRED 5 points6 points7 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Disgusting in the least

[–]jamesbwbevis 5 points6 points7 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

I do agree with this though. A society with too many men with nothing to lose can be a lot more unstable.

[–]_the_redditor__ 4 points5 points6 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Feminists: We need more women and less men in schools!

Also feminists: Growing number of uneducated men is worrisome

[–]CanniBal1320 6 points7 points8 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Woman is lonely and broke- Oh dear someone help her, give her some money and a new job. Poor woman.

Man is lonely and broke- You are inherently evil and turn into a terrorist. Get away from me.

[–]Awan-Zada 2 points3 points4 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

A little bit of empathy towards depressed, uneducated and lonely/broke men would go a long way but as men we know that we're never truly valued unless we become providers(tax payers) and good little servants with no mind of our own.

[–]nelsonbt 5 points6 points7 points 4 years ago* (0 children) | Copy Link

Seems to me if you remove all the incentives to attach to school, work, or a relationship, you’ll get less of those things.

The last paragraph calls men inherently evil. What would we call article writers whose agenda is to label innocents, and innocent victims, as evil?

[–]carpetpants 4 points5 points6 points 4 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

Decriminalize prostituition. problem solved

[–]Tunapizzacat 1 point2 points3 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

This.

[–]CanniBal1320 4 points5 points6 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Essentially, the theory seems to be that if men don’t have jobs and girlfriends to distract them, their inherent evil starts to seep out.

Inherent evil? Really? Thats what we are? Isnt that sexism.

[–]Legitimate-Ad-6267 1 point2 points3 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Essentially, the theory seems to be that if men don’t have jobs and girlfriends to distract them, their inherent evil starts to seep out. Should men need jobs, relationships and college degrees to keep their dangerous tendencies at bay? I’d like to think not, but unfortunately it seems society has given us plenty of reason to fear the lone broke male. We’ve been warned.

WOW. The point went completely over their head. I hate to be "that guy", but this calls for an r/whoosh

[–]Blackholeo0 1 point2 points3 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

I like to see I’m being noticed.

[–]PlzSendDunes 1 point2 points3 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

“The most dangerous person in the world is a broke and lone male.” And, bad news, “We are producing too many of them.”

Hmm.. interesting statement. I mean it's not like there should be programs to help men... No, we need to produce less men. How nobody is using in academia such wording in regards to women...

[–]Historical_Draw_9923 1 point2 points3 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

To a degree, I think there is some merit to this story. I would use the civil unrest in Portland, which has a huge homeless and unemployed male population, as an example of proof of the theory.

But it's not to say that females with nothing to occupy their time and minds can't be equally sinister.

[–]amazinglyaloneracist 4 points5 points6 points 4 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

Yet the Biden admin is letting in illegals who are mostly the uneducated from a third world men.

Many with incompatible religious beliefs who will at some point terrorize, others will drive drunk, no license or insurance as they kill the educated, spread fentanyl across our country killing off our weakest who succomb to the temptation.

This is just laying the groundwork for the inevitable listed above to be whitewashed to blame the real enemy.

Straight white men. Poor, rich. Educated or not they are in the cross hairs.

[–]Tunapizzacat 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

This is one hell of a hot take. Sounds like you need a hug.

[–]XGBM 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Maybe it's a hot take on Reddit, but that isn't saying much.

[–]c4944e830acd 8 points9 points10 points 4 years ago (11 children) | Copy Link

I don't have a college degree. I'm proud of it. I've also earned $300k+ this year. What were you saying again ...?

[–]TFME1 5 points6 points7 points 4 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

Glad to hear about your individual success, but this isn't about you, as an individual. This is about the society you live in. It won't matter how much money you make when the woke mob invokes (and mandates), without your consent (the consent that they talk about sooooo persistently), their version of Utopia (which you probably won't be "celebrated" in... more likely shamed in for all your success and wealth), but, by then, you won't have any other choice. Welcome to Utopia.

[–]c4944e830acd 5 points6 points7 points 4 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

I completely agree with you. However, my comment was targeting the first two paragraphs of the linked article.

[–]TFME1 4 points5 points6 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

👍... Good on ya' for your success!

[–]Sarkbee 9 points10 points11 points 4 years ago (6 children) | Copy Link

Congrats, that's impressive. What do you do?

[–]TrainTestAccount21 7 points8 points9 points 4 years ago (5 children) | Copy Link

Im in a similar boat. No degree, work in tech, but make close to 215,000/yr. However, I help all homeless men because one day, I could be that guy asking for help. Having money does not make me better than others.

[–]Sarkbee 1 point2 points3 points 4 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link

I want to work in tech too. I don’t have a degree but I’m studying for some certifications. How did you get to where you are now?

[–]TrainTestAccount21 -3 points-2 points-1 points 4 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link

Faith in God, and realizing that its not what you know, but who you know. Also passive income > active income

[–]Sarkbee 1 point2 points3 points 4 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

Noted!

[–]unambiguous_script 2 points3 points4 points 4 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

$310k here. IT Security. Can confirm.

[–]TrainTestAccount21 2 points3 points4 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Also why did i get downvoted? Just answering the question

[–]AK-69420 4 points5 points6 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

colleges are more dominated by women than men

[–]unambiguous_script 3 points4 points5 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Our SMART phones have misogyny in its dictionary but not misandry.

How are we expecting DUMB people to understand it.

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points3 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

men who don't possess the means and resources to be a threat to society are more dangerous than people who do?

seems pretty logical to me

[–]InterestingWave0 1 point2 points3 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

This was always the plan. It's been a hate movement to disenfranchise the average man, but the wealthy men and women won't be affected at all. The roots of this go back to feudalism, and our society in general is heading towards neo-feudalism so this is terrible but it isn't surprising.

[–]This_is_a_sckam 1 point2 points3 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

That’s all we are to anyone.... a threat. I feel like a good example of this is when a guy is walking home in the dark people probably think “what’s that freak up to” but when there’s a girl walking home in the dark people think “oh I hope she stays safe.” People just generalize us as weirdos and possible/probable criminals and dehumanize us because more violence is caused by men. Why when I’m walking near a woman I have to feel worried that I’m acting weird when I have the same exact fears that someone’s going to try to attack or rob me

[–]StudentOfTheTruth0 1 point2 points3 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Oh, yes, so let's see: due to systemic discrimination in education (boys are falling WAY behind girls, unsurprisingly, given the educational policies), which makes fewer of them reach college than women, in sharp contrast to the past (which shows that it is not the lack of male intelligence that's behind it) , so then the conclusion is ... change the system so that men and women have equal chances of getting into college?

What? Are you crazy? Hell, no. The "conclusion" is, of course, that not only is this men's (or boys') fault, but that on top of it, they should be blamed for being DANGEROUS and a THREAT, too!

We've been warned!

Yeah, right, equal chance to get into college ... that would be something like "equality" or something. God forbid that.

As for "equal chances": beyond discrimination in the K-12 system, did I mention that there is "affirmative action" for women at college admissions? You know, affirmative action for the MAJORITY, at the expense of the MINORITY. Which, as we all know, is the purpose of all affirmative action systems. How much more obscene can that get?

[–]mllhild 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Its written from an idiotic feminist viewpoint, but at least the part about us being dangerous is true. Afterall we arent bound by anything besides our gaming equipment or hobbies, so its very easy to rally us to a cause and mobilize. Futher more societies conviniences cant be upheld with too few men.

[–]Open-Cow-5531 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

What's worse is the assumption that if you don't go to college you will be broke. There are good jobs that don't require college education to obtain that have opened up in the last few years because being pushed into college has left few people applying to such work. I am approaching 40 and in my line of work there is almost no one younger than me coming in because they all got pushed toward college instead. I make good wages and have been able to afford having 2 vehicles and a nice house all without college.

[–]StudentOfTheTruth0 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (5 children) | Copy Link

Why all the tiptoeing about all that silly detail, "lone", and "broke" and whatnot.

Let's just go for the essence: MEN are a threat to society. All of them, just by being born men. You know, a 1-day old male baby is a potential rapist. Should apologize for all the rapes in history to 1-day old girls, like they do it in some (Australian) schools, for 11 year old boys. And all that. Oh, yeah, before I forget: women are all a blessing to society. Angels, too.

You know, "man bad, woman good". Let's not complicate it with this "lone, broke" stuff.

Keep it simple, stupid.

[–]RandomHuman2354 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link

Please use the /s sign

[–]StudentOfTheTruth0 1 point2 points3 points 4 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link

I absolutely don't see any reason for it whatsoever when I speak the truth.

[–]RandomHuman2354 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

/s sign is for telling sarcasm intended and I thought you were being sarcastic.

[–]StudentOfTheTruth0 2 points3 points4 points 4 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

I know what it means and I wasn't sarcastic. The point is that in any topic that comes up, feminists and women who follow them always come to the "conclusion" that everything is men's fault, including the consequences of their own bad decisions, and that "woman good, man bad", men are just dangerous brutes and rapists and what not. So all that, after listening to it for a while, adds up to the general drift that men are just a threat to everything and the uncountable good things men have done and are doing don't even cross their minds. So I suggested a "let's just simplify this for you" kind of approach. No sarcasm. I just point them out for what they are and what they are saying.

[–]RandomHuman2354 1 point2 points3 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Yeah, I can understand you meant that feminists want to say that men are bad and women are good but your without the /s sign it looked like you are trying to say that because you didn't write "this is what feminists say."

[–]Keopsfuj -3 points-2 points-1 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Conservatives always did this. According to conservatives, men need to be put to work like a beast of burden otherwise they will become animals lol. They raised boys by brainwashing them into power then let the ones who couldn't get power die in wars or in hard labor or whatever.

Men need to learn how to not have much money but still be ambitious, happy and fun. Men need to learn their worth and happiness shouldn't be based on how much money they have and start to love themselves.

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