60% of college graduates are women ... not enough for feminists: "College hook-up culture sees female students graduate with low self-esteem - but young men are more self-assured than ever"

theoysterismyworld · 2013-10-06T17:35:36+00:00

This is where we forget about all the male dropouts while looking at the more successful men instead, right? Obviously the dropouts don't tell us anything about men's self-esteem in colleges, I mean, they're not there anymore so they don't count, duh!

dungone · 2013-10-07T04:49:09+00:00

Anyone else notice how these girls confuse their narcissism with self esteem?

When these women start having to pay for dates, gifts, and sex, then we'll talk. You mean that at a 60% female college, a girl who expects men to buy her drinks is surprised when they don't call afterwards? And we should care because it hurts her self esteem to be rejected by a guy? Is this the same girl who just said that the vast majority of the men are ugly and un-dateable? This is the girl whose self esteem we care about?

5th_Law_of_Robotics · 2013-10-07T15:56:54+00:00

Women leave college with lower levels of confidence than they do when entering, while the trend is reversed for men, a study reports.

You know what it absolutely couldn't be? It could not be that previously men had faced overt and well documented discrimination from overwhelmingly female teachers so they went to college with a lower opinion of themselves than was fair and once there they did better than expected because they had worked harder in grade school just to pass and once free of blatant discrimination they did better than expected. Whereas for girls it was the exact opposite: they went in with unjustifiably inflated self esteems do to being coddled and when judged objectively they were knocked down a bit.

Nope. Absolutely could not be that.

Must be because men are having sex with them.

JakeDDrake · 2013-10-06T16:46:39+00:00

When you teach little girls that they're special snowflakes who can do no wrong, you're setting them up to have their self esteem crushed when they run into people who are smarter than them.

PortalesoONR · 2013-10-07T00:50:20+00:00

Teaching staff at Boston College described the findings as 'surprising and concerning', in part because it did not seem to fit with their experience with students in the classroom.

of course it doesn't fit their experience, because it is bullshit.

jabberwockysuperfly · 2013-10-06T18:32:21+00:00

Women graduating with low self-esteem is basically rape.

guywithaccount · 2013-10-06T22:18:19+00:00

So college girls bang anyone they want, more or less, and are highly desired and sought after by college boys - and they feel BAD about this?

WTF, I don't even.

edit: hang on, reading the article. Maybe something in there will make sense of this.

edit 2: Jesus FUCKING Christ. They're just throwing barrels of shit at the wall to see what sticks. Hey, you know what else it might be? Aliens! Aliens are using Psycho-Rays from space to make college girls feel bad! Or, maybe it's because the girls skated through their lowest-common-denominator, female-tailored public education with relative ease and now that they have to actually be grownups and deal with an education and a career path where you're actually expected to know shit and you can't get by just by doing what you're told they can't deal.

coldbeeronsunday · 2013-10-06T21:13:13+00:00

This always boggles my mind. Women bitch and complain about how guys they hook up with never want real relationships and how this causes them to feel bad about themselves. I see women gripe about this on social media sites all the time.

Sure, real relationships can grow out of hook ups. We've all seen it happen. It can happen, it does happen, it's a natural progression under certain circumstances even. But if you go into a hook up expecting that to happen, that's a problem with you and not with anyone else. If you want to protect your self-esteem, lower those expectations or - here's a novel idea - don't fuck people you're not already in a more serious relationship with.

Unless you're getting date raped every weekend, no one is forcing you to have sex with guys you barely know. So why blame the guys for hook up culture or a female's low self-esteem on male attitudes towards hook up culture?

I'm female, btw, and this concept still blows my mind. Just my take on the sexual side of things, I guess.

bunker_man · 2013-10-07T09:10:34+00:00

The feminist solution: More hookup culture. But somehow pretend alcohol isn't involved. And criticize males involved in hookup culture, while praising females. What could go wrong?

Rolten · 2013-10-06T20:46:17+00:00

'I was an engineering student and one of only a few women in my program. If I made a mistake it was magnified a thousand per cent and I was basically told 'that's why women aren't good at engineering'.

I don't know where they get this from. At my engineering university women are allowed to make mistakes, much more than men. Them being in engineering is actively promoted, and it's great to have one or two women in your project group. Men are more likely to show compassion for them than for other men. If anything, they should feel much more supported.

ZimbaZumba · 2013-10-06T17:44:22+00:00

People actually do still do studies like this? Good grief.

IameAuhSomme · 2013-10-06T21:54:46+00:00

That's probably why they're so much more likely to commit suicide. Self assurance.

MarcoVincenzo · 2013-10-06T16:57:40+00:00

Of course. The deck is stacked against men so any who survive to graduate are bound to be more self-confident in their ability to adapt and excel regardless of what life throws at them.

bam2_89 · 2013-10-06T21:23:35+00:00

And if there weren't a "hook-up culture" they'd be bitching even harder about MRS degrees.

SwordfshII · 2013-10-06T18:08:25+00:00

More of the same "woe is me" bullshit.

mcmur · 2013-10-06T19:04:01+00:00

Uh lmfao...what?

Probably more like the reverse, its easy as hell to get laid in college as a girl as a guy not so much.

its_all_one_word · 2013-10-07T03:41:34+00:00

Saying that having a female majority of college dropouts is success while deliberately ignoring self-esteem doesn't even tell the complete story. We don't graduate college for the sake of completing a task; we graduate college to have a good life, and it's hard to have a good life if you have low self-esteem.

That being said, I would agree that this was kind of a derpy article. You can't just say hookup culture hurts women's self-esteem more than men's without backing it up with statistics. There are statistics out there (which, in my opinion, have more to do with whether the person was lonely before hooking up than it has to do with gender).

because_misogyny · 2013-10-06T17:00:07+00:00

I'd be more confident than ever as well with a pussy ratio that favorable.

Thisismynetlife · 2013-10-07T00:26:52+00:00

We're more self assured because the cards are stacked against us, and we must persevere.

SiriusHertz · 2013-10-06T17:27:41+00:00

I think these stats may be related. After all, if 60% of undergrads are women, and 40% are men, then about 20% of the women are getting sexually rejected - there just aren't enough collage-educated guys to go around.

JakeintheTrees · 2013-10-06T17:38:58+00:00

There's no engineering at BC.

2013-10-06T21:57:13+00:00

Well of course, if only few men come through, they will have high self esteem cause "they are left". If most women come through, they won't feel special for having done that.

csgardner · 2013-10-07T18:35:40+00:00

Some men managed to make it through the system without their souls being utterly crushed? Unacceptable!

Self-confident men. Not even one.

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