Her warped logic of the lesson of #MeToo

Nybaz · 2020-01-16T12:48:18+00:00

2 possibilities :

1- women are angelic creatures, totally incapable of lying;

2- women are, like all human beings, perfectly capable of lying, and many do to achieve personal advantage

Pick the most probable one

BigGuysBlitz · 2020-01-16T13:38:17+00:00

So Warren claims Sanders said the quote, Sanders vehemently denies it and offers up multiple times he has said the exact opposite so CNN just goes on as if it is truth anyway.

Seems like her pussy pass was still effective.

ceestand · 2020-01-16T13:48:03+00:00

That Warren can start a squabble because "you called me a liar" makes me think she's not suitable to be President anyhow.

GrumpyOldGam3rDad · 2020-01-16T14:53:31+00:00

She's just setting up her "sexism" claims for after she looses the nomination. Same as Booker trying to drop a party racism claim for his and Harris early departure even though Obama was elected twice.

Edit: this isn't anti Warren, just politician facts. All of them have their excuses ready, this isn't exclusive.

DiamondDiggler · 2020-01-16T13:42:17+00:00

Actually, the lesson of #metoo was that people can lie about rapes and due process is important than ever.

Tattered · 2020-01-16T14:17:40+00:00

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2020-01-16T16:07:22+00:00

Man and women are equal, except women don't lie and men are rapists. Got it.

erichie · 2020-01-16T14:49:11+00:00

This whole controversy is insane. A woman lies for years about being Native American. Gets a DNA test to prove it, but turns out the average American is more Native American then her. She teller accused aside whole stepped aside and let BLM speak when they hijacked his microphone. This dude has nothing in his history to suggest he is sexist, racist, or any other kind of -ist.

CNN believes a woman with a history of lying over a man who has a history of fighting for the under represented.

Bi-CuriousGeorge-01 · 2020-01-16T15:00:33+00:00

All warren does is lie to try to advance her career

crayonsnachas · 2020-01-16T14:06:33+00:00

Why believe her? They went in to the meeting agreeing it would be private, then she got butthurt and went and told everyone. Doubt he said it.

SystemAllianceN7 · 2020-01-16T14:00:00+00:00

Me too movement was very toxic for humanity.

gerbdergerb · 2020-01-16T15:35:40+00:00

It amazes me that cunts like these actually exist in the real world.

SnowBirdHigh · 2020-01-16T13:57:10+00:00

CNN believes her.... isn't that enough? /s

smaffit · 2020-01-16T16:05:51+00:00

"believe all women" because women would never lie about sexual assault (patently false to begin with, but that's another issue), has become "believe all women all the time, even in the face of overwhelming evidence to the contrary, because she's a woman", and it's absolutely ridiculous the way it's being peddled like it's normal.

SeaTwertle · 2020-01-16T16:27:34+00:00

Lost what little respect I had for Warren after all this. It’s not enough that the country is so vehemently divided between republicans and democrats that now the democrats have to squabble amongst themselves?

HWGA_Gallifrey · 2020-01-16T14:51:42+00:00

I have to call it "weaponized 'perceived misogyny'" because these dense sjw fuckwits can't take the truth. They attacked Bernie Sanders, a champion for women's rights for over three fucking decades, with weaponized #metoo. It's fucking sickening. Warren should just drop out now, that's not how a presidential candidate should act.

2020-01-16T17:07:15+00:00

"Lets just give women the ability to say anything and we'll all just go along with it blindly. There is no way this could be abused or taken advantage of."

keystothemoon · 2020-01-16T20:55:44+00:00

"believe all women" is irreconcilable with "use critical thinking skills". You can't think critically about a situation if you're just supposed to believe someone because of their genitals. Anyone asking you to set aside your critical thinking skills is an obvious charlatan.

2020-01-16T21:09:15+00:00

Years of watching Dr. Phil has taught me that having a twat doesn't mean you have sodium pentothal running through your veins. A pussy doesn't equal unequivocal truth.

mercenaryarrogant · 2020-01-17T00:23:24+00:00

Looks like we learned completely different lessons from that movement lady.

crippledbrain · 2020-01-16T13:53:59+00:00

Wow. That's insanity.

2020-01-16T17:17:02+00:00

It's hard to believe Liz when she has a pattern of lying. She most recently lied about getting fired back in the day for being pregnant. Not a Bernie fan, but in this instance I believe him over her.

SqueegeeMe · 2020-01-16T18:16:07+00:00

I'm sorry but as someone that's old enough to read "#" as the pound sign and not hashtag, I keep reading #metoo as PoundMeToo. Clearly whoever thought of that slogan didn't think that through or is responsible for one of the biggest pranks in internet history.

epiphanes050 · 2020-01-16T21:07:26+00:00

Not to mention that Elizabeth Warren has a track record of lying already:

(1) Lying about her Indian ancestry to secure an affirmative action job at Harvard; and

(2) Lying to a questioner at one of her turn halls, denying that her children attended private schools.

And those are just the ones we’ve caught her in ... more will no doubt appear as election season stretches on. But hey, let’s just believe all women, right?

Rptrbptst · 2020-01-16T21:42:50+00:00

No you don't get it, we have to push this 'believe her' forward in this instance or they'll never understand.

point out that she says bernie is a rapist so he must be.

redgreenapple · 2020-01-16T14:02:45+00:00

I was set on voting for warren for a decent amount of time, loved her message, her pedigree, and what I thought were long held positions.

but this political ploy two weeks before Iowa, the debate handshake thing, and the fact that she was a Republican longer than I’ve been alive has me set 100% now on Bernie. I mean to be right wing until you’re 47!? I can’t wrap my mind around that. She wasn’t some conservative high school kid that grew out of it, she went to college l, law school, worked multiple jobs and drank the right wing /corporate globalism/ kool aid. I know people can change but when you compare that with bernies consistent record? Also I was worried about bernies age but fuck it they’re all 70+

Toraden · 2020-01-16T19:52:12+00:00

People really seem to have misunderstood the whole "believe her" part of the #metoo movement, and I mean that on both sides.

The point was the "believe her" enough to investigate. Something which, astonishingly, doesn't happen a lot more than people realise. You aren't supposed to assume that she is 100% telling the truth and just lock the accused up, you're supposed to believe that she is being sincere and carry out a thorough investigation so you can prove with evidence one way or the other.

2020-01-16T14:22:07+00:00

Miss Warren lies about everything. EVERYTHING.

Pathological.

Dr_Diahrea · 2020-01-16T16:00:09+00:00

That's how some people use it though.

Raiden32 · 2020-01-16T16:40:59+00:00

+1 for actually being PPD content.

2020-01-16T17:08:36+00:00

This is so irresponsible by CNN. How can you possibly write a story without any legitimate sources? This is why the media is one of the more hated mediums.

_Oomph_ · 2020-01-16T17:11:57+00:00

I'll believe all women (and men for that account), as far as I believe all politicians.

2020-01-16T17:41:04+00:00

Metoo doesn’t mean to believe whatever woman say. Woman lie. Men lie

LightofNew · 2020-01-16T18:08:03+00:00

No, we listen to women and give their words weight.

Blatant slander and lies don't hold weight. Especially when referring to the most honest and kind man in Washington.

Girlsfly2018 · 2020-01-16T18:35:32+00:00

Former native American Warren was unavailable for comment

Mike707707 · 2020-01-16T19:30:19+00:00

I always assumed this business of believing a woman simply meant not to dismiss out of hand without some investigation,which is what had been happening.

Fraulo · 2020-01-16T20:57:38+00:00

ShEs TeLlInG hEr TrUtH!!!

johnchapel · 2020-01-16T22:11:19+00:00

I don't that that was the message that #METOO delivered. By all accounts, it was a tragic failure of a campaign that started with a pretty powerful message.

Now its a throwaway punchline on nearly every episode of Comedy Bang Bang.

Cuntfart9000 · 2020-01-17T02:17:22+00:00

Has Elizabeth Warren released any new smoke signals to address this issue, or is she having reservations?

VeganSuperPowerz · 2020-01-17T02:45:56+00:00

One thing. If Bernie did say that he didn't think a woman could win, that doesn't mean he is a misogynist. It means he thinks America is and at least 40% of America definitely is.

CommitSudokuPerverts · 2020-01-17T09:37:11+00:00

If anything it proves females are liars and will lie even after being found to be irrefutably lying.

2020-01-18T22:52:49+00:00

I’m pretty sure that the point of #MeToo wasn’t to imply that women are incapable of lying. I think people who have taken it to that level completely ruined an otherwise very around and respectable movement.

blackjackgabbiani · 2020-01-23T23:32:23+00:00

What we SHOULD be getting out of Me Too isn't to believe everything a woman says. It should be to believe the facts. Plus this person seems to be discounting the idea that a woman could ever be an abuser.

booomahukaluka · 2020-02-05T16:59:37+00:00

Well this aged well with the depp stuff

tmone · 2020-01-16T13:33:28+00:00

someone correct me if im wrong, but isnt Julia Loffe actually arguing the same thing? in other words, shes being anti metoo here. shes exposing the ridiculousness of it all.

_limjahey_ · 2020-01-16T14:32:27+00:00

Trumps gonna win anyway boi

Catson2 · 2020-01-16T13:53:12+00:00

I though Julia msg was a sarcasm

OofieElfie · 2020-01-17T11:19:20+00:00

metoo was such an upsetting movement for everyone except the people making false allegations, it's really fucked up. It was meant to bring some degree of power back to actual victims, yet of course some selfish assholes decided that would be a great time to falsely accuse others. In the end, just taking even more power away from real victims.

Cuntfart9000 · 2020-01-16T23:53:48+00:00

“It’s scientifically impossible for a woman to tell a lie.” - The Average Democrat

2020-01-16T14:01:43+00:00

I downvoted this out of pure anger even realizing what sub I was in. Calmed down then upvoted

AlteredCabron · 2020-01-16T16:50:36+00:00

Never liked her anyway

Its sanders vs trump

Classicpass · 2020-01-16T17:01:35+00:00

Most women fall for it

TheDeerssassin · 2020-01-16T17:11:32+00:00

Also that movement was about rape and sexual assault, not presidency

Uncle_Magic · 2020-01-16T17:48:05+00:00

That guy is a Russian mouthpiece.

jixxor · 2020-01-16T19:13:23+00:00

I thought Presidents lying their people into a war is tradition in the US

kwigon · 2020-01-16T19:14:07+00:00

Jesus Christ the lesson from #metoo was that women do lie and should not automatically "be believed". It is sad how many people see an event unfold right in front of them yet believe the exact opposite of what happened.

MissSoxxy · 2020-01-16T19:32:00+00:00

Literally every woman I’ve ever met is a liar, usually compulsively, and proud of their lies as well. And this is coming from a woman haha

2020-01-16T19:41:04+00:00

IsN't iT thE LeSSoN We BeLIeVe WoMeN UnCoNDitIoNaLLy?

2020-01-16T19:41:57+00:00

When you lie multiple times to make yourself look better and try to have people support you out of pity, you lose credibility. Goodbye warren. You are no progressive and you scales are showing.

RIP_FartMaster · 2020-01-16T20:00:08+00:00

I'm pretty sure that the lesson of #metoo is that thinking that women should always be taken at their word without vetting is how you end up with Donald Trump as President of the United States.

dobrefetus · 2020-01-16T20:00:27+00:00

Is metoo just for girls?ii thought it was for anyone

LyingTrump2020 · 2020-01-16T20:04:17+00:00

I think the scene immediately after the debate demonstrated one thing: they both honestly believe they're correct. Ergo, neither are lying; one is simply remembering wrong.

OnceUponaTry · 2020-01-16T20:29:48+00:00

Nevermind how many Warren supporters say Bernie is "Too old" to be president.

empatheticapathetic · 2020-01-16T21:31:35+00:00

BALEVE WASMEN

Kieferton · 2020-01-16T21:37:50+00:00

This whole sub just got r/woooosh

speedweasel12 · 2020-01-16T22:47:19+00:00

And warren has a well documented history of conveniently lying for personal gain soooooooo

Tntn13 · 2020-01-16T22:50:53+00:00

piss off enough Bernie fans doing this and some will stay home on Election Day. Pretty sure this made a difference last time around.

Her behavior here makes her much less likable to a lot of people.

DangerAvocado · 2020-01-17T01:20:44+00:00

Believe all women unless they say something bad about the political candidate i support

TSPGlobal · 2020-01-17T02:59:22+00:00

It's not like she lied about anything dumb, like her race.

Trimere · 2020-01-17T03:13:29+00:00

The lesson is that the belief comes in the form of investigating the claims, not the belief that the claims are fact.

Seletixarp · 2020-01-17T03:27:45+00:00

should*

peejr · 2020-01-17T03:30:59+00:00

julia, you are insane if you think women dont lie.

adale_50 · 2020-01-17T04:05:39+00:00

I believe facts regardless of gender. You don't just get to be believed under any circumstances.

2020-01-17T04:27:25+00:00

That’s right we are now required to believe every single word every woman says about any topic, anywhere.

2020-01-17T04:32:29+00:00

Warren is a known liar. It's why we call her Fauxcahontas.

GenuineSteak · 2020-01-17T05:20:12+00:00

If ive learned anything over the past few years, its to be more suspicious of women. Especially if theyre unusually nice or angelic.

DressingRumour · 2020-01-17T13:33:34+00:00

What metoo should be is a support system for victims of sexual assault, where they're not blamed for a crime commited against them.

Not a witch hunt everytime a woman accuses someone of sexual assault (not always a man! As we saw by Melanie Martinez's case) and the apparent assaulter gets dragged through hell and back. We don't know what happened, we are not the police to investigate what happened, so we can't draw definitive conclusions about what happened.

But I guess Twitter activists can't see that.

dehr8624 · 2020-01-17T14:39:59+00:00

Half of #metoo accusers are lying!

ojioni · 2020-01-17T23:24:23+00:00

Having been married once, I know better than to blindly trust what a woman says.

FireKal · 2020-01-18T00:54:29+00:00

Bernie is in the right here, that’s clear from the start

Magidex42 · 2020-01-18T01:00:09+00:00

Umm...women lie all the time. They lie as much, more, as men do. Having an "innie or outie" has no bearing on honesty, ethics, tact, grace, sincerity, or anything else in that regard.

antgalva · 2020-01-18T04:19:21+00:00

I live on a border town and it bothers me so much when I hear the political messages from Mexico saying if you disagree with a female politician it’s like your putting down every one who voted for her, and people need to be supportive of female politicians. I just think WTF imagine they did that same message but with the genders changed there would be a shit storm.

Genei_no_Miria · 2020-01-18T21:05:15+00:00

the lesson was exactly the opposite

AcrobaticDiscount2 · 2020-01-29T09:58:40+00:00

That's not what she means, sigh.... she means that women didn't use to be believed just because they were women. She means, don't automatically call women liars, just as all those assaulted women were. After all, they were telling the truth about Weinstein.

You make fools of yourselves when you do this.

HellaTrill420 · 2020-02-04T13:11:29+00:00

No, the lesson from me too was that anyone can be a victim, and anyone can be a perpetrator.

I'm gonna say it, I don't automatically believe women on that. I wanna hear the damn story, I wanna actually review what happened before I decide if its bullshit or not.

fd0263 · 2020-02-05T06:06:25+00:00

Or maybe we take allegations for what they are: allegations, and we dismiss them if they’re as ridiculous as a claim that Bernie Sanders is sexist from a woman who lied publicly about her own race.

ttystikk · 2020-03-29T08:12:05+00:00

Max Blumenthal is my hero!

Check him out on Grayzone Project!

2020-04-04T01:25:26+00:00

As a Bernie supporter, this speaks to me

scaredofshaka · 2020-01-16T14:40:59+00:00

This lady is out of her mind, even from a feminist point of view. The "believe women" bit is when they have been victims of sexual aggressions, not in all spheres of life!

HoldEmToTheirWord · 2020-01-16T15:17:24+00:00

Metoo was about believing women when they talk about sexual assaults and sexual harrassment, since too often those are dismissed. I don't think it's about believing literally anything any woman says.

Donaldisinthehouse · 2020-01-16T16:41:57+00:00

Haha these kind of bitches are crazy.

AsscrackDinosaur · 2020-01-23T15:12:34+00:00

After my last relationship, I don't even know if women even speak the truth at all. I mean, of course they do but I just have such bad luck that almost every girl I met lied to me when everything could havr been prevented if she didn't.

Sorry that I used this comment for venting

2020-01-16T17:26:56+00:00

The main lesson of "#me2" was that hollywood & washington are shit holes run by bad people.

Why would we listen when anyone from there tries to lecture us on morals and good behavior?

SomeGuyV111 · 2020-01-23T02:34:48+00:00

Don’t worry A women tried to lie and then become president and look how that turned out

ccjohns2 · 2020-01-16T14:44:38+00:00

I agree. I’m not backing warren. I’m just saying she’s better than trump. I would prefer Bernie as well.

ccjohns2 · 2020-01-16T13:54:21+00:00

Trump is lying right now and half the country supports him regardless.

All wars were started by men. She has enough sense to prevent a war.

Her warped logic of the lesson of #MeToo

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Title	Her warped logic of the lesson of #MeToo
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