Is this how consent works,?

Platoi · 2019-08-28T09:09:38+00:00

I think I heard a story like this a little while ago, two college kids got drunk and fucked, woke up the next day realizing neither of them consented, and essentially raced eachother down to the authorities to try to pin it on the other one.

Egalitarianwhistle · 2019-08-28T09:11:14+00:00

This is title 9 in a nutshell but it is spilling over into mainstream. This is not how criminal law works but feminists are pushing for it. And that is the problem. MRA's are actually more feminist because we say that women have equal agency as a man.

DaddyPopcorn · 2019-08-28T10:42:49+00:00

I was an exchange student in California State University in Los Angeles for 6 months in 2017, those pictures were all around the campus, sometimes dozen of them in the same hallway. And this is just one example, there were many others on the same topic. This is disrespectful for women, and makes males feel like shit. But, I have to add something, from this experience I noticed that young people from this city and university have a very bad relationship with alcohol, I can't count how many times I had to help a girl or guy standing while she/he was puking on the ground, and holding her/his clothes to keep the situation decent. I can see how some people will think that this person can't give consent. But the problem isn't that she/he can't give consent. The problem is that this person drank to the point of not being able to give consent. In my opinion it is due to poor alcohol education before 21, so when the person finally access to it (without any information or preparation) she/he will overdrink and make stupid shit.
Oh, as a last note : drinking is supposed to be a social activity right? So if someone is drunk, they'll most likely be around friends or people they trust. Where are the friends in those situations?

5th_Law_of_Robotics · 2019-08-28T11:25:57+00:00

Women are equal but also entitled to special treatment. Oh and fewer obligations. And maybe a couple of extra rights.

Gaki-San · 2019-08-28T12:05:47+00:00

Ahh, feminism. If it didn't have double standards, it wouldn't have any standards at all.

Dantevortex · 2019-08-28T14:05:17+00:00

Women are going to have to choose:

1: Women are strong and independent and are equally powerful as men.
2: Women are weak and incompetent who cannot be left alone with a single bit of responsibility in life.

Pick one ladies.

tableender · 2019-08-28T12:00:56+00:00

Its comical. Feminists habitually infantalize women and remove all agency from them, at the same time saying women are strong. Camille Paglia points out how things have reversed. She said (roughly) In the 60s girls at uni had to be in for 11. Men didn't. It was to protect women. Women protested and demanded the same rights as the men, they demanded the right to risk being raped and treated as an equal adult. Now it's the other way round. Feminism fights for women to be treated as infants with no agency compared to men. If I had a son at uni I would advise him to avoid sexual situations with girls while there, especially if they have had even 1 drink as females are toxic for men in that environment. If men could have regretful sex and at any time later, possibly a year or two, simply on the basis of his word ruin the lives of women, I wonder how popular dating would be with females there?

Ody_ssey · 2019-08-28T10:30:57+00:00

The law should be neither of them should be charged if both are drunk.

fogoticus · 2019-08-28T15:36:30+00:00

What this poster is subliminally trying to tell us:

Jake was DRUNK. ----> Jake has a lot of control. He is at the top of his game and he clearly has the power to understand what is going on around him. Thus, him trying to do something like... let's wildly say "sex" is just fucking disgusting because men suck fml. Men only want to rape obviously.

Josie was DRUNK. ----> Josie has 0 control. She literally starts saying "no please" over and over in her own mind even though she probably wants to kiss Jake. When they got into bed Josie was imagining over and over how the 911 call would go even though she probably took off her own clothes.

This is the dumb shit feminism today promotes. This is what feminism wants to tell us. This disgusting bullshit behavior is why a lot of people say:

Feminism promotes equality but gives a huge, fat middle finger to responsibility. BECAUSE IT'S FUCKING TRUE.

Edit: correction

Nybaz · 2019-08-28T08:41:05+00:00

Whoa, is that how the law is in the USA? Because that's ridiculous.

specialwinnerssong · 2019-08-28T16:36:56+00:00

This is ironically sexist because it makes Josie look quite pathetic and unable to control herself or hold council over her own affairs.

marcooni1 · 2019-08-28T12:51:56+00:00

Actually in that situation, the one who reports first, is the "victim." If Jake would report first, then he would be victim

thenull_corporation · 2019-08-28T15:09:23+00:00

As a gay man, I can't possibly run into a consent issue.

(wish I was joking)

pteawesome1 · 2019-08-28T12:03:50+00:00

No you shit Lord, you see men have all the power it's called patriarchy even when drunk he uses that power over her to make her consent, of course he wanted it he's a man and allmen are sexual predators /s (but seriously that's roughly how it's justified by the left)

Egalitarianwhistle · 2019-08-28T15:37:49+00:00

Any rules on consent must be genderblind.

lolitselea · 2019-08-28T16:42:48+00:00

I'm not sure about where this campaign was, but I know that in the UK only men can be charged with rape because legally rape is the forced insertion of a penis into an orifice. This doesnt include anything you could use to simulate a penis (like a dildo) literally only a penis. This doesnt mean woman cant be given the same amount of prison time/community service, but it does mean that legally she isnt charged for rape specifically.

Edit: it isnt in the UK. It's from Coastal Carolina University, 2008. Theres an updated poster as this one was taken down later that year.

https://www.dailydot.com/irl/anti-rape-poster-reddit-conversations/

TheDongerNeedsFood · 2019-08-28T16:57:20+00:00

Feminism: for when a woman never wants to be responsible for any of her decisions ever again.

JustHereToLurk63 · 2019-08-28T15:16:01+00:00

This is exactly how it works, because you know, men!

MrMagtow · 2019-08-28T16:24:26+00:00

No, because women are the victims because men are all rapists /s

Honestly, this propaganda makes me sick. If Josie is such a victim and cannot be held responsible for her choice to drink to excess, she should not have the right to drink alcohol. Nor drive. Nor vote.

This is why children are not legally considered adults until 18 years of age, because by that time, they should know enough to be responsible for their own actions. But, because women want to be victims, they require a perpetrator.

I'm so glad I swallowed the Red Pill, now I can see the hypocrisy that is woman.

MasonTaylor22 · 2019-08-28T17:08:34+00:00

Is there something called "bullshit saturation" - where you're exposed to all this bullshit and it's enough? I think I had enough of this Clown World bullshit logic.

jbslol · 2019-08-28T18:39:58+00:00

Men don’t have victim status.

Lion_amongst_gods · 2019-08-28T09:30:49+00:00

So you're saying... Josie raped Jake?

williamshakemyspeare · 2019-08-28T15:04:32+00:00

LOL how casually they say "it only takes a single day to ruin your life". Yes, let's not only continue to perpetuate these sexist double standards against men, but also rub it in their faces and take pride in ruining men's livelihoods. Fuck these people.

cobbb11 · 2019-08-28T16:10:07+00:00

We clearly need to walk around with breathalyzers now. It's gonna be the killer new phone app now that fingerprints and facial recognition is pretty much standard.

Ansodyte · 2019-08-28T16:19:57+00:00

Luckily the original poster got massive backlash.

data-prohibition · 2019-08-28T17:10:31+00:00

Pure sexism. Wouldn't be too bad if pointing this out publicly wouldn't be so challenging. Should be totally obvious.

We're men and were great the way we were.

Arcane_Ronin · 2019-08-28T18:44:01+00:00

Be responsible, dont get drunk.

Blutarg · 2019-08-28T16:14:36+00:00

Equality? Hahaha! Good one!

candidly1 · 2019-08-28T16:29:10+00:00

What if it was two women?

FightClubHamster69 · 2019-08-28T17:00:17+00:00

Oh boy a mattress girl in the making

xXx_BL4D3_xXx · 2019-08-28T17:09:30+00:00

Ok i don’t know if that was supposed to be a meme but it was terrible.

I do agree however that pamphlet is absolute garbage and that none of them could be charged with rape.

fuetdevic · 2019-08-28T18:21:12+00:00

Women are children

medici1048 · 2019-08-28T18:46:01+00:00

Dave Chappelle said it best on his new stand up special: "Or, here’s another idea that’s going to be very controversial, you could… shut the f*** up. I’m sorry, ladies. I just… I got a f***ing Me Too headache."

J2501 · 2019-08-28T18:52:54+00:00

Every time I see this, I think of the chick who went on r/relationshipadvice, asked if it was OK if she needed a drink to relax before sex with her committed partner, and was told by many idiots she was being raped.

It's like, 'Sexual repression is a thing. It's mostly from shaming and vilification exactly like this. You don't want a chick to have to drug herself just so she can break the Junior Anti-Sex League conditioning, and do what she wants to do, in her heart and mind? Stop second-guessing this shit.'

And they're gonna act like I'm advocating sex with the unconscious. Well I gotta say: 'sober/unconscious', as a false dichotomy, sure is pretty fucking 'binary', now isn't it?

jaheiner · 2019-08-28T19:03:47+00:00

Nah, women like all the perks and none of the accountability.

Mr7FootCock · 2019-08-28T19:18:09+00:00

False rape accusers need to be put on a public sex offenders list

Gutotito · 2019-08-28T19:39:19+00:00

That concept has always bugged the shit out of me, even when I was young. It relies on the presumption that men are more responsible, for whatever reason, than women and should therefore be be more accountable -- i.e.: be afforded more control. And last I checked, that was a statement which would send any self-proclaimed feminist into a rage.

Groot2k19 · 2019-08-28T19:54:16+00:00

This is indeed clown world! The end is near!

2019-08-28T21:54:17+00:00

There's some bad logic going on here.

Person A get's drunk.

Person B get's drunk.

A drunk person cannot consent to rape. Therefore, person A cannot consent to raping person B.

-Dragonhawk1029- · 2019-09-02T16:05:04+00:00

I see a fellow moto usar

ZarathustraX13 · 2019-08-28T16:30:30+00:00

Don't worry. Once the sex bots are perfected this won't be an issue anymore.

Manny1400 · 2019-08-28T15:48:38+00:00

classic

Wcgraywulf · 2019-08-28T17:06:58+00:00

If becomes a crime to get drunk and hookup with strangers then Civilization will collapse.

TokeyWakenbaker · 2019-08-28T18:27:09+00:00

Make Jake look menacing. That'll prove our point that only women can be raped.

Queer_Goddess · 2019-08-28T20:30:27+00:00

They raped each other, apparently lol

Crazycatgirl16 · 2019-08-28T21:01:43+00:00

The thing is if they're both drunk it's not rape or anything unless one is unconscious or is saying no and being ignored. So many times I hear just being drunk is a call for rape and no. It's not

ghebert001 · 2019-08-29T01:20:01+00:00

No, what this means is women expect to be treated like children when it suits them.

UpperClassStout · 2019-08-29T01:57:17+00:00

The answer is simple. Avoid feminist, liberal "women". I know, I know, there isn't such a thing, because they can't really be considered "women" but it's honestly that simple.

greyslopp · 2019-08-29T13:36:22+00:00

So men cant get drunk?

ALLJAB · 2019-08-29T15:05:00+00:00

Yea like public toilets in my city being a 'womans issue' or how "womens health comes FIRST" plastered all over the drug stores in my area. Equality isn't the goal. Fuck women, it's all they're good for these days.

Master_5000 · 2019-08-29T15:30:34+00:00

This would be good without the meme text

Master_5000 · 2019-08-29T15:32:49+00:00

I saw someone saying that areas where women were more had these with the genders reversed

ConanRobinson · 2019-10-08T22:40:23+00:00

If people are worried about getting sued after drinking, then they might want to sign a consent / agreement beforehand. Obviously it is not a very romantic thing to do, but it would work. Please see an example below:

https://www.docpro.com/document/1136/relationship-contract-consent/one-off-intimate-relationship

If you blackout easily and have no intention of engaging in such activity, then it is better not to go drinking with someone who could take advantage of you.

deepcut6 · 2019-08-28T18:51:38+00:00

I asked my mother about this as well when I was a teenager because I smelled the bullshit even then. She eventually changed her opinion to 'they raped each other' if this happens. Even if they both enjoyed it, even if they both got drunk with the intention of getting laid.

Lendari · 2019-08-28T17:15:28+00:00

Jess sounds like a real slut.

Akesgeroth · 2019-08-28T13:09:23+00:00

This picture is like 6 years old and gets reposted on here every two weeks.

Seagram1 · 2019-08-28T20:20:45+00:00

The point that is missed( in my opinion) is most men get 'whiskey dick'. This is when being drunk your dick doesn't get hard. Ever try to have sex with a limp cock? But a vagina does not suffer the same impediments. This entire campaign is absurd

HATEFULasshole · 2019-08-28T21:40:14+00:00

That's why when I used to be with drunk chicks I would pound down the booze so it would be okay

nfolsen · 2019-08-28T18:04:27+00:00

Bros this shit is so old

conankudo1610 · 2019-08-28T17:54:55+00:00

Cringey meme, valid point.

Title	Is this how consent works,?
Author	AxalonNemesis
Upvotes	2415
Comments	161
Date	August 28, 2019 8:26 AM UTC (6 years ago)
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