I was watching a video by Aba and Preach which I'll link here: https://youtu.be/ODifmOvjBbs?si=6q1JoKiAuiZj2Kvs&t=669

This part of the section, Aba brought up a good question that I figured I would ask here in this thread. Now I'm not sure if this is the right thing to do as this is a subreddit where we discuss men's issues from a left wing perspective.

Idk if you guys saw the middle ground video of feminists vs MRA (I didn't, I just watched their videos and went off of that). But I think I spent a lot of time on this sub focusing on men's issues and dealing with my own shit, that I don't find the time to also look into the genuine issues women do face. And it's kinda hard to do as for some issue, you have to separate the ideology interpretation from the issue to get a non-biased look at it, even when it comes to statistics.

This might be a heated discussion but I wanna bring it up to see if we can come to an understand. What are some ways women suffer that you can acknowledge or understand?

Right off the top of my head, one of it is the overturn of Roe v wade. Idk if anyone here has taken a look at it, but I believe 14 states out of 50 got banned or it was overturned there. You can get abortions in the country, but you'd likely have to go to another state which might bring in extra labour and more cost. Even with Roe v wade active before being overturned, I would've imagined getting an abortion is not an easy one.

Women are likely to face sexual assault than men based on the NISVS stats I viewed from reports a year ago and what not. When it comes to harassment in general, IIRC the stats were generally equal on both sides, but when it came to sexual assault specifically, women scored higher (tho idk if there were men who didn't say yes to being sexually assaulted by a woman which would affect the numbers). Then there's the whole women being alone on the street or transit. I only bring this up because men are still expected to make the first move and there are a few men out there who don't care about women's boundaries. I believe men and women face street harassment, but women might face this a lot more due to that expectation and biology. In this case, it could be the minority of men making the majority of women feel uncomfortable.

One of the old videos I saw that covered why women become feminist (a video made by an anti-feminist) stated that in male dominated workspaces, women are taken less seriously there and are mostly relegated to secretary work. I'm not too well educated on this topic in particular, but I do remember having co-op positions where the only women I've worked with who held prestigious positions were female senior developers, but maybe what they face is different than male senior developers. From my experience, I was the only co-op student that got a developer role while everyone else of a tech background, including females, got more QA roles. Someone out there might use this to relate to the wage gap, just remember there are still other factors to account for such as hours worked, frequency of time offs, vacations used, etc.

Women deal with more inappropriate attention from men online with men flooding their DMs, with some of these DMs containing threatening messages. The IRL ones I can speak from personal experience, but I witnessed one of my female co-workers getting stalked into their workplace. Another co-worker and I had to step in between them in order for him to leave. Ngl that was a very tough situation to deal with. She even had to ask me to escort her to a car so she could get home safely. If we're broadly speaking, again, it could be that the minority of men are the ones doing this and not the majority.

Now of course, I didn't spill out all details cuz some of the issues I pointed out, I'm also very aware that men go through them too, probably at a similar rate to women, even if they don't talk about it as much.

But yea what other ways can we acknowledge that they suffer in?