Whats everyones opinion on the 4B movement?

Hot_Blacksmith_3404 · 2024-11-09T16:29:46+00:00

I think it’s great that feminism as a movement is waking up to the fact that there’s nothing empowering or beneficial about casual sex.

Wife_and_Mama · 2024-11-09T13:53:51+00:00

The feminist idea that women gain empowerment from casual sex has ruined dating for decades. Men don't have to show women they can provide by paying for dates (yeah, yeah, there's a debate on that one), being chivalrous and masculine, granting exclusivity, marrying and having kids. They can just sleep around for all of their 20s and never run out of sex on tap.

All of this has contributed to the second childhood than seems to have become so common, with couples settling down later and later. As I understand, dating is even worse now than it was 10 years ago, with few men wanting anything serious. Women play along, let men use them for practice, and then find themselves single at 30 with no prospects. The men who are tired of all of it can settle down with younger, hotter women. Feminists have given men all the power in the dating market. Their willingness to sleep around is a net negative for all of us. Maybe it's time they close their legs.

Astroviridae · 2024-11-09T11:49:51+00:00

Let's see, they're going to own the conservative Christians by checks notes abstaining from premarital sex. Ok?? It's a passing trend and I doubt many except a few hardline feminists remain in this movement past two weeks.

I see feminists advising women to guard their wombs, don't sleep with random men, and only be with men that respect and value them... all of which women should already be doing. Their "rebellion" betrays that hookup culture never benefited nor empowered women. This whole thing is in essence a toddler tantrum.

littlestircrazy · 2024-11-09T19:04:52+00:00

This is just an Internet thing. Most people in real life are going to continue to do what works for them, and for most people, that's at least one or more of the "4B"s.

As far as using sex and all this to protest or somehow control men...I think the general idea is really stupid and shortsighted, and likely only hurting the protester themselves. Not just having sex with anybody is smart, not dating or marrying in protest is just gonna make you older and harder to get that in the future if that's what you actually want, and having children is not something that should be dictated by protest, but rather actual love and desire to raise children.

If there's anyone actually following the "movement", it's just children (regardless of age) pouting about not getting their way.

Also, it won't be enough women to actually impact men in any way - and if it somehow did, it wouldn't have the desired effect of having men "vote left." So just hurting yourself to feel better.

ArkNemesis00 · 2024-11-10T23:04:46+00:00

I tend to assume that the participants in this movement are so focused on the imperfections of the 4Bs that they aren't properly considering the downsides of a lifestyle without them.

Finding good things for one's life to replace what sex, dating, marriage, and kids give is a massive undertaking. If one thinks a job and some friends will do it I think they're in for a lot of trouble as they enter into middle age.

littleladyluv · 2024-11-11T19:47:03+00:00

Isn’t 4B a hair type?

wtf I’m so confused 🤣.

Just over here living my very conservative bubble.

StrangestUnicorn · 2024-11-09T11:20:59+00:00

A female version of MGTOW, which exists only in niche corners of South Korean internet, largely unknown to an average person, but overblown into something far bigger in a recent western Tiktok trend.

Working_Loquat3344 · 2024-11-09T11:49:25+00:00

I think this movement is so funny/ ridiculous…These women are protesting their way into…. Conservative values, yet don’t even realize it. This demographic of radicalized feminists shows how indoctrinated women have become against traditional values

wifelifebelike · 2024-11-10T18:48:21+00:00

Hilarious. Also unifying lol

Jewelry_lover · 2024-11-09T13:02:21+00:00

I think it’s a joke. Women will never all agree on the same things because humans are inherently selfish and will choose their own needs first before anything else.

Also women love to have sex and are attracted to men, that will never change no matter how much it upsets them.

throwawaytalks25 · 2024-11-09T15:17:34+00:00

It's honestly baffling to me. The premise seems to be that because of who was elected, all men are evil, and sadly there have been a lot of posts talking about ways to actually hurt men and cause bodily harm.

Regarding abortion:

They cannot seem to grasp that there are two kinds, elective and medically necessary. I am personally opposed to elective abortions, but not medical, and had to have a medical one myself due to an ectopic pregnancy.

Ectopic pregnancy is a big one they keep using as "evidence." No doctor is going to diagnose an ectopic and send their patient home to get their affairs in order before they bleed out. It is a medical emergency because it is 100% fatal without treatment.

Regarding dating/marriage:

Nothing has changed before and after the election.

People are still the same as they have always been, and I'm blown away by women stating they have a great marriage, but they think they want to divorce now because of who their spouse voted for.

As far as dating/considering marriage, it has always been a risk and most states have no fault divorce at this point.

VasiliyZaitzev · 2024-11-09T11:32:12+00:00

So for the ladies in the USA trying to make it a thing here, it’s mostly unhappy, unpartnered, and, well, unhinged women. As in:

Men:

Them: “WE ARE NOT GOING TO HAVE SEX WITH YOU!!!”

Men: “Um, okay?”

Now this is mostly from what I’ve seen online from Manosphere creators, (but sane ones, like BB and Legion of Men), so they are going to pick the most extreme examples. But really, there was only one I thought was halfway cute. She looks sort of like that little Gen Z blonde girl who was having a meltdown about how she was supposed to work and still have a life while commuting to New York City from New Jersey.

rlyyniceandcool · 2024-11-10T21:49:39+00:00

Why does everyone think 4b is just about refusal to have casual sex? People who subscribe to 4b are against sex in any capacity, along with marriage, childbirth, and dating, some even take it as far as not interacting with men at all

Not defending it but it’s important to know what youre arguing for or against, 4B is wayy more complicated than “promiscuous women deciding to close their legs, thats what we wanted all along”

melanielane87 · 2024-11-09T21:16:20+00:00

An absolute temper tantrum that made them abstain from casual sex which actually helps society become more traditional and heals the dating market. Now men don’t have to date crazy liberal feminists. Now we don’t have to worry about abortions.

BigOleLegs · 2024-11-10T06:27:31+00:00

It implies that I'd ever want to have sex with some blue haired leftist woman in the first place.

Consistent-Citron513 · 2024-11-09T23:07:22+00:00

I think it's ridiculous. If you don't want to date, marry, have sex, or have kids that's your choice but I don't see why it has to be a movement and the only reason more women in the US are talking about it is because of the election, which is more ridiculous to me. What is that supposed to prove?

Unique_Mind2033 · 2024-11-09T14:46:29+00:00

I think it's good to enjoy periods of celibacy

but intentions matter, and if one is intending to bash or withhold something from someone then their period of celibacy is not going to bear good fruits as one will probably turn to substances, too much TV, overeating, masturbation, and numerous other things that are not conducive to human flourishing

but by all means women should take time to self reflect and preserve themselves

amibeingdetained50 · 2024-11-11T22:45:04+00:00

The funniest thing ever.

ComprehensiveHat8073 · 2024-11-09T17:19:43+00:00

I think it's fantastic, hope it continues to spread globally. India really needs it.

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Bellatrix_Rising · 2024-11-09T14:58:45+00:00

I'm joining it until I can get out of a red state where my body autonomy is respected. I don't care what they want me to do with my body or whether the Christians want me to abstain from premarital sex. Women are doing it for themselves, their safety, and various reasons. It has nothing to do with men or pleasing anyone's moral views.

Title	Whats everyones opinion on the 4B movement?
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Date	November 9, 2024 11:11 AM UTC (1 year ago)
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