The mockery of male loneliness

Phuxsea · 2025-05-23T14:39:20+00:00

I strongly agree with this rant. To second it, I notice that the crisis primarily affects working class and disabled men, especially men with mental disorders. So when people mock the 'male loneliness epidemic' they are punching down on already marginalized men. This is why misandry is a threat.

AbysmalDescent · 2025-05-23T14:32:10+00:00

It's ironic because in mocking male loneliness they are, in effect, demonstrating why the male loneliness epidemic exists in the first place. Men feel lonely because they are treated like second class citizen, and most are treated as unwanted in society. Especially so by women who are not only the ones in the most power to make feel men wanted(biologically and socially), but who are also benefiting from a tremendous amount of privilege in men consistently being there to make them feel wanted.

The general attitude that it's a burden to treat men with even the most basic level of kindness, decency or empathy, or that women are somehow oppressed because of this despite the fact that men already do this blindly and enthusiastically for them, is incredibly hateful towards men.

Systematic misandry takes a toll on men, the same way systematic misogyny would have been recognized as having taking its toll on women. Not just in terms of loneliness but mental health and general wellbeing as well.

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alawadhiy · 2025-05-23T15:17:50+00:00

Literally saw a post on tiktok , with 700,000+ likes, that mocked male loneliness and even took a step further.

It had the captions on the video of a young woman filming herself saying:

"Propaganda I'm not falling for:

male loneliness epidemic
men are human beings
etc.."

.

Yeah, I don't think it's a question about women not hearing enough about male struggles, it's more so about us left wing MRAs understanding that not all people can be reasoned with, even the self-proclaimed progressive feminists.

psych_student_84 · 2025-05-23T17:17:44+00:00

it's interesting how the vulnerable men are attacked but they never take direct aim at the men they generally complain about

johnnycarrotheid · 2025-05-23T09:25:16+00:00

Those that are beat down, are the easiest to manipulate. Are the most willing to "take what they can get".

Luckily I've "been around the block", saw what I saw, and didn't want to move there 😂

Gives me the position of, they can't mock me as I own it.

Single guys that are confident in it, breaks people's brains 😂

Brave-Pie-9831 · 2025-05-24T05:04:48+00:00

What I find interesting is the assumptions that are made about this. The idea that if a man faces loneliness it must be because he's a misogynist or a 'shitty person', which in my experience is very inaccurate. I haven't seen much correlation with guys I've met who face lonelines and their moral character. There are lots of great people who are respectful of others who feel lonely all the time, it just seems to me to be a very dismissive and stigmatising way of looking at things.

Local-Willingness784 · 2025-05-23T16:28:23+00:00

and in the very odd case that, i dont know, men got less horny and got tired of simping and most women didn't get attention just because, how would they react? most feminist would say women would be happier, assuming the attention is unwanted or negative but I have seen women who "miss being catcalled" because as it turns out, some do like getting validation, and I dont know if this is offtopic from the post but I would like to know how you lot think women would react if they had to live the lives of those men they despise so much.

NHS_24 · 2025-05-24T20:09:54+00:00

Absolutely, you’ve articulated something deeply real that’s been dismissed for far too long.

The mockery of male loneliness isn’t just insensitive it’s dangerous. It creates a culture where men are shamed for expressing emotional pain, then further blamed when that pain manifests in unhealthy ways. And you’re right: many men have tried to seek connection in healthy, community-driven ways, only to be shut down by assumptions of bad intent.

It’s deeply hypocritical to demand emotional openness from men, while simultaneously ridiculing their vulnerability the moment it doesn’t align with a politically correct narrative. This double standard doesn’t just silence men—it isolates them. And ironically, that isolation drives them toward the very extremes critics then use as proof that male spaces are inherently toxic.

Acknowledging male loneliness shouldn't be controversial. It's human. And addressing it seriously doesn’t diminish anyone else’s struggle it simply makes space for healing that’s long overdue. You're definitely not alone in noticing this.

No-Knowledge-8867 · 2025-05-24T05:00:03+00:00

I find it bemusing when women complain about men only being interested in sex or solving men's problems through sex. It comes across as revealing to me. Like, do you not have any men in your life of any depth? What type of men are you attracting, and what are you doing that attracts these men?

Jkid · 2025-05-24T02:31:18+00:00

The real reason it gets mocked, because they don't want to actually solve the problem. They want men reduced as workhorses and slaves

Holiday_Jeweler_4819 · 2025-05-25T04:49:12+00:00

This is a part of a larger problem when it comes to online commentary and how despite how much some narratives are proven wrong they stick around. Right now the prevailing idea behind the “male loneliness epidemic” online is that it’s just a bunch of sad boys who can’t get laid despite the fact that studies have shown men and women report similar levels of loneliness and similar reasons for having feelings of loneliness ( https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC11829320/), and often times if you bring up that the “sad boys not getting laid” theory doesn’t really hold up so scrutiny and isn’t reflected in research people will often shout you down. It’s funny because by them pushing that narrative they completely push out the women who are also feeling lonely, because of everyone is reporting higher levels of loneliness for similar reasons then the chances are the solution to men’s loneliness will help women of vice versa. But people are so insistent on perpetuating silly gender wars online that they’ll cut off their nose to spite their face.

A similar phenomenon is how you constantly see people saying that “single women are the happiest demographic” despite the fact that married people regardless of gender typically rank themselves as being happier than their single counterparts (https://www.axios.com/2024/02/09/marriage-wellbeing-happiness-survey), it’s not even hard to find this information as multiple studies have been done in the matter but you’ll still see people repeating it online and if you mention that they’re wrong and that the study they’re mentioning the author admitted that a mistake was made in misinterpretation of the data and people will act like you’re dismissing their religion

Unpopularjokes · 2025-05-26T00:11:20+00:00

I’ve said it before and I’ll say it again: everyone knows the word “misogyny,” but hardly anyone knows the word “misandry.”

Imakemyownnamereddit · 2025-05-25T10:26:56+00:00

The intolerant tolerant society.

A movement which demands body positivity, the acceptance of women behaving anyway they want, dismisses men who don't reach female body standards and have neuro divergent behaviour.

Layth96 · 2025-05-25T23:31:22+00:00

The burden of blame for male loneliness online has largely shifted onto men themselves so there is less of a felt necessity for society to address it. Very convenient lol.

Leftmost_CaramelKofi · 2025-05-23T19:35:57+00:00

At some point, in your journey as a male feminist or leftwing dude...being faced with wokism contradictions day-in day-out you realize you really stand at a fork that they forced you in:

Lose your sanity trying to content miserable people that don't even know what would satisfy them. And their antagonistic, antinomic injunctions.
Disregard these imbeciles and all the foul, vile, baseless dumbsh1t they take pleasure and catharsis in saying🤷‍♂️

Which way, Left Wing Man ??

Deep down these people are simply convinced of their own irrelevance and insignificance. They have a deep-seated belief that nothing they say matter, carry any weight. Won't be listened to. So they just lash out, seek the vilest phrasing, repeat at nauseam. Exagerate, amplify, parrot. Not realizing it's a self-fulfilling prophecy.

Boys learn at early age to give some gravitas to their words: if only to keep your promise to your friends and avoid being hurtful to girl/women volatile emotions needlessly. It is my experience that most girls don't go thru that phase. Don't get that deep seated sense of responsability/gravitas that "Yes, indeed, I'm only worth the worth of my word"🤷‍♂️

That's why you'll find such a behavioral GAP between moms of toddlers(and older) and childless women. The former know their words commit them, are listened to and relied upon. The latter don't get such experience....and in the lot, some will just devolve to yap sh1t. Just making noise with their mouths and keyboards.

Your only play is to identify them as early and best as you can and simply ignore them.

2025-05-26T16:08:55+00:00

It seems like there’s a lot of discussion around male loneliness lately, but what’s often missing is a real willingness—by both men and women—to engage with the emotional isolation. What I’ve noticed, though, is that in some public conversations, women either sidestep the topic or approach it without really understanding the emotional realities men are navigating. Honestly, I’ve seen a lot of women mock this in a way that I don’t think they’d appreciate if the tables were turned.

Men are increasingly aware of the problem. There’s a growing recognition that our emotional needs have often been minimized or dismissed—sometimes even in our closest relationships. One example that sticks with me is that viral video with the guy holding a spool of wire and his wife peppers him while he’s having an existential crisis— highlights how emotional disconnection often occurs when we try to express distress and are met with solutions or deflection instead of empathy.

But ultimately, I don’t think this is a problem women can solve for us. It’s about men reclaiming ownership over our emotional and psychological well-being—through accountability, through brotherhood, and through setting higher standards in our relationships. And protecting men’s only spaces and including trans men in them.

Speaking personally, I’ve been in a relationship where I carried a lot of emotional weight—listening, supporting, helping my partner through her job stress, family conflict, self-esteem struggles, and even hormonal shifts during perimenopause. I gave that willingly. But when my father was dying and I reached out to her for the same kind of support, she told me, “I didn’t sign up for this.” That moment shattered something in me, and in hindsight, I realize how emotionally one-sided our dynamic had become.

It’s experiences like this—not isolated, I suspect—that lead some men to feel emotionally disposable. There’s often a hidden expectation that we will be caretakers, providers, emotional shock absorbers—and when we need care ourselves, there’s no reciprocity. That’s not just painful; it’s unsustainable.

But here’s the key point: blaming women wholesale isn’t the answer. The solution is for men to step back, reassess, and commit to building lives and homes that are emotionally stable and self-respecting, regardless of who shares them with us. That means forming deeper friendships with other men, cultivating emotional literacy, and creating relationships where mutual support is the standard, not the exception.

We should expect open communication. We should expect reciprocity. And if those things are absent, we should feel empowered to walk away—calmly, firmly, and without guilt.

This isn’t about turning away from women or relationships. It’s about refusing to settle for dynamics where our emotional lives are an afterthought. And it’s about remembering that healing starts with us, not with someone else changing first. I think you prioritize you and not prioritize anyone else at your expense.

hefoxed · 2025-05-26T23:50:37+00:00

> What really got me about that meme was that men have tried to start men's groups or clubs, for YEARS. But every time, they were immediately branded as 'misogynistic' or 'right-wing' without question, and were shut down not long after.

Something I've been thinking about lately: as a trans man living in a very LGBT supportive community, I am /not/ marginalized in the same way cis men are in several aspects, with access to community being one of the big ones (and drafts/genital manipulation being two of other more notable ones). Progressives tend to celebrate and support trans men specific groups (while some demanding the gay ones become all gendered). I think that's something I want to try to convey to other trans man that speak on the male experience and use it to invalidate cis men's pain -- we somewhat DON'T understand what this is like, we don't understand what it's really like to be cis, what this experience is really (tho straight trans men that transitioned earlier in life probably have more relavent experience -- but those of in LGBT supportive communities less so). Like, I've go through periods of isolation due to my own mental health issues (like right now), but I still know I have spaces to go where I can get some support and community for whenever I can shake this.

Sigh.

Living_Accountant_67 · 2025-06-07T23:30:47+00:00

Women don't even try to hide their hypocrisy, and many men still fall for it.

Outrageous_Bear50 · 2025-05-27T19:44:29+00:00

I was watching a tiktok the other day about a guy's thoughts about the freedom of speech and it was about the balancing act of when a conversation doesn't need to be had and the danger of something just being taken as dogma. I think this conversation kinda mirrors that when you take all the versions of feminism and only take them as dogma this is where that route takes you.

Fickle_Friendship296 · 2025-05-24T16:27:51+00:00

It's a consequence of societal expectations.

Men are often expected to take the league in everything they do in life, be it relationships, dating, mental health, jobs physical fitness, etc.. and when you lack in either of those, it's easy to flip the blame onto you.

For women, the only expectation society expects from them is to just be... women. Which they already are. This is why the vast majority of men don't care about what a woman does for a living, how (so long as she isn't in the niche industry as a sex worker or a stripper, but even that doesn't stop most men anyway). How much money she makes, what type of car she drives, etc...

I do feel that the male loneliness thing is self-inflicted for a lot of reasons. The biggest reason is whenever you ask a guy who says he's lonely he often always mentions lacking a gf. And that's the issue: the goal is to just get a gf, like this would magically fix everything that's making him feel lonely.

I always encourage these guys to get active in their communities, join work happy hours, join fitness groups, and take up adult martial arts classes, or SOMETHING. But they always twist it into "I don't wanna be that dude who took up salsa just to hit up women," then don't be that guy. Why do these guys always feel that they're just doing these things to get laid instead of just doing them because they want to do them?

Their outlook is fixated on female validation or female rejection, instead of worrying about bettering themselves and their outlook.

Rejection is part and parcel of dating: no one wants to be stuck dating someone they don't like, that's just unfair.

NHS_24 · 2025-07-30T02:41:12+00:00

... interst

ambelamba · 2025-08-09T01:49:12+00:00

My fear is, somebody will eventually exploit the situation for his (most likely a male) political gain.

LatestLTU · 2025-12-16T14:49:15+00:00

I don't understand? What's wrong with being right-wing? When did God come down and officially declare that left wing is good and right wing is bad?

It's just preferences. Some white people like the idea of living in an erratic racially diverse society, where others prefer to live in a homogeneous society. Neither is objectivity or wrong. Left-wing whites want their race and European appearances to be wiped out and replaced by mixed race African looking people, whereas right-wing people like the appearance of their race and want it to be preserved. Neither is objectively right of wrong. It's purely subjective preference.

NameNearby2887 · 2026-05-09T04:15:46+00:00

I remember the last year or something like that I was following dannyphantomx (or whatever his name is) and I loved his videos but the second he posted a "male loneliness is not real" video i immidetaly unfollowed. It really made it clear what he was trying to do with his platform. It is a frustrating thing for women to dismiss men's issues as irrevelant but it is another thing for other men to be absolute douchebags to their own gender for the sake of applause from society.

Competitive_Side6301 · 2025-05-23T15:48:05+00:00

I’m sorry but there is not a male loneliness epidemic. This is not something I will ever get behind.

It’s just feminist propaganda.

Yes men do struggle but giving it a label like this has just given the feminists ammunition against men to further bully them.

Awkward-Dig4674 · 2025-05-28T15:21:58+00:00

"Male" loneliness but I've not heard gay men or liberal men ever claim this epidemic.

Also if the men are lonely and single that would imply women would also be lonely and single... I've not heard woman complain about an epidemic.

it really seems like its a particular kind of man stating this and it's wild there are men thinking this is somehow related to dating women or women are a part of this issue.

What it seems like is this nonsense comes from "men who have shitty worldviews and social habits and refuse to take responsibility for it and work on it. But instead blame everyone else (specifically women) for not allowing them to be shitty anymore"

Maybe when people tell you its you and you need to go to therapy and maybe not have shitty world views, you should do that?

Few-Coat1297 · 2025-05-23T04:51:47+00:00

That's because incels have invaded so many online spaces with their dumb manosphere talking points, so most women online assume reactionary status to those talking points......and in addition you can't help but feel there is some significant schadenfreude being felt by women who see the suffering of men at a meta level as some sort of payback for centuries of oppression of men.

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