CMV: most men can be attractive

Archwinger · 2016-10-24T13:21:56+00:00

So the gist of this post is that every man has a maximum potential, and that maximum potential, wherever it is, is great enough for every man to be attractive enough to bed most women?

If a man isn't getting laid, that means he's not doing the work, or that he's doing the wrong kind of work?

BPremium · 2016-10-24T13:53:53+00:00

Most guys cannot become Chad. Sure, if the average dude spent months/years doing gruelling exercise and eating healthy they could become better, but it is not a guarantee. Let alone the kind of looks that allow a guy to passively get women, which is the ideal.

Scurvemuch · 2016-10-24T14:13:50+00:00

If most men actually wanted to become attractive, they could.

Hows this :

If Since most men actually wanted to become ~~more~~ attractive, they could. However, being "more" attractive may or may not lead to desired results.

DarkLord0chinChin · 2016-10-24T13:43:59+00:00

Attractive is not binary. It is relative. If so, your whole point is useless. Indeed, everyone can be attractive, to some degree. Not everyone can be Chad though

OncleJulian · 2016-10-24T13:40:33+00:00

Most men can be attractive to some women some of the time. The men on here who strive to be attractive want to attract upper echelon women for casual sex without working to benefit her in any other way. The former is realizable, the latter often is not.

Uyrr · 2016-10-24T13:25:36+00:00

Actually, I agree. By nature, women will always be more selective than men. But, I think men can be at least marginally attractive to the general female population.

The problem is that Western men are feminized. We have the fact that many masculine traits are suppressed, including instinctive behavior by boys in school, relabeled as things like ADHD. Instead of encouraging masculine traits, they are suppressed. Boys are taught to obey authority and sit in school all day with little time to run around and actually be boys.

Another huge factor is the fact that there is not much need for physical labor and we have an abundance of food. This is a big deal. Physical activity has a whole host of benefits, especially for men.

Men are meant and are built to do physical activity. This inactivity has led to men being out of shape and lowers testosterone levels. This is why I say that women can get away with being relatively out of shape (still healthy) while men are held to higher standards - men are supposed to have much lower body fat levels, the ideal is around 12%. Most men are around 20 - 30%, this is way too fat for guys.

Lowered T levels is a huge deal and has many affects on men, not just physical but also mental. It can also affect your facial structure. Higher T levels combined with muscle growth actually changes the structure of your face and is generally more attractive for men. There is something called "lifters jaw". Lifting accentuates your jawline/maxilla making it much more attractive to women.

All of this matters because opposites attract. By feminizing men, you are making them more like women. Encourage masculine traits and men will be more attractive.

LittleWindowpane · 2016-10-24T13:46:22+00:00

Most men can get to be average, or the 50th percentile in looks as rated by women. "Attractive" is more difficult, though.

LewisCross · 2016-10-24T15:56:41+00:00

What do you mean by "attractive"? To me, "attractive" means women desire him and want to have sex with him. So let's use that definition.

If you mean most men could become attractive to most women if they wanted to and put in the work, no. That's wrong.

I would have agreed with you if you had said some men could become attractive to some women if they wanted to and put in the work. And the number of men who comprise that "some" is dwindling by the day.

Most men cannot have sex with most women, even if they optimize their physical appearances. Because physical appearance is what it's all about. For men, physical appearance is becoming much, much more important for sexual attraction. It has always been important, but it is taking on an even more prominent role now with cultural deregulation of sexual mores.

purpleppp · 2016-10-24T17:23:23+00:00

Most men can become attractive to some women, but if online dating data and survey results mean anything, most women care about height and ethnicity a whole lot. A lot of men will never be attractive to the general female population no matter what they do.

EmilyCharland · 2016-10-25T08:24:13+00:00

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What is this?

OncleJulian · 2016-10-24T14:44:01+00:00

No, it doesn't really matter in the end. You can be attractive as a man but you'l are still going to have a hard time getting casual sex with women in your league, and why would a woman in your own smv range want to date you when she can punch above her own weight and get a chad? What does it matter that you are a 7/10 male? You are either a 10/10 or nothing at all to women.

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anitapk · 2016-10-24T14:40:25+00:00

Some guys can't actually do much without surgery. Even then I'm not sure it can make miracles.

DerNeuere · 2016-10-24T18:28:37+00:00

Yes you can become more attractive, but it is not just looks. Alot of it is also behaivior. The real problem with the red pill is, that all this talk about attractivness and the ideal "chad" is a limiting factor, because they can always blame their below average results on your looks. And its sooo negative and frustrating. I know personally guys who are not attractive, but have really good looking girlfriends. I am way more attractive and I don't have anywhere near the results. Hell, I even know a male model who doesn't get laid.

i_have_a_semicolon · 2016-10-25T01:23:54+00:00

I am not Stacy but I am attractive. My man is not Chad but his is attractive. I could never be with a Chad. I'd probably want to die. At least I feel like in my bfs league and he attracts me quite well and I attract him. It works out, ok?

voteGOPk · 2016-10-26T04:00:50+00:00

no.

https://youtu.be/iOHdZKDldIg?t=1514

trail22 · 2016-10-26T04:27:15+00:00

Define attractive. Like attractive enough they can be with a women they find attractive.

Bullmozer · 2016-10-29T01:59:22+00:00

When are people going to realize that there is nothing as "too tall" for a man.

Tall women will flock around and fetishize said giant.

-CcCc · 2016-10-24T18:07:14+00:00

Not really.

Trying to fix yourself is literally a race against the clock. It's a catch 22. By the time you've fixed all the flaws that prevented you from slaying, you will have lost the one thing most essential to slaying in the first place -- youth.

Most men who are attractive have top-tier genetics and/or started "looksmaxing" at a very young age.

Once a man is 23 and unattractive it's over. He will never be attractive to prime women and getting attention from used up single moms is not very motivating.

yaboitinky · 2016-10-24T13:29:49+00:00

No. most men cannot be attractive. Most men are considered genetic waste by most women

SkinnySweaty · 2016-10-24T16:35:47+00:00

Every man can maximize his fitness and looks. This is a fact.

The results of that maximizing will vary greatly from man to man, but what these men will have in common is to be seen as "looking good" and "having his shit together". From there, chemistry with individual women based upon tons of different variables will determine who will want to fuck you.

Title	CMV: most men can be attractive
Author	SipsSparklingWater
Upvotes	7
Comments	267
Date	October 24, 2016 12:52 PM UTC (9 years ago)
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