New independent RPW sub -- Redpillwives

_wingnut_ · 2016-04-03T05:54:05+00:00

The Mod team at RPW has decided to cut ties to the TRP sub. We still believe in and agree with RP ideas, but we feel the culture of reddit, combined with the...

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I think the anger phase is absolutely useful, and in many cases necessary. I also think it would be beneficial if more established users told the newer ones "anger is to be expected, and it's normal...but if you're still influenced by anger in negative/counter-productive ways in 8 months, then you need to lock that down and get over it."

Anger can be a useful emotion that fuels change and progress, but if it's actively stunting growth and interfering with positive change? Then it becomes a problem. There is a level of anger that simply cannot be concealed for any length of time. If a man's goal is to spin plates for example, active and visible anger is going to be a turn-off to women. More than that, even if he can establish plates in the short-term, the turn-over rate will be very high as they become more familiar with his personality.

Ultimately, I think anger is justified and necessary...within reason. It shouldn't halt progress or limit personal development however, and I sometimes get the impression that that is very much the case with some users.

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There are much healthier ways to move past anger other than a) suppressing it or b) feeding into it

Great! Tell us more. This has long been a topic discussed on MRP and it is one of the hardest things about unplugging- it defines "unplugging."

Let us try to deal with your solopsism logically. I know, bear with me. Shall we try a thought experiment? What if every magazine you read, every man you met, your own beloved father, your lovers, your sons, your friends- ALL of them, told you that they like rough, aggressive women with gigantic fat bellies, tramp stamp tattoos, and a shitty attitude.

What if you did everything all the MEN told you they wanted, and all society told you, everything! What if the result was you become a desperate and lonely woman who nobody wants to be around? All the guys avoid you and look at you with disgust.

What if you discovered the lie, we could call it "The Red Pill" and were forced to confront that every man who told you about loving fat, rude, loud, tramp stamped women was actual lying.

April Fools!

You should have realized it- and guess what fucktwit? It is all your fault.

Would you be angry? Just a tiny bit?

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What healthier ways?

Self introspection, physical activity (yes I'm aware TRP heavily advocates this, but that doesn't justify the acceptance of unhealthy outlets), talking to people who are willing to give you emotional support in a productive way. These are just some immediate ideas, I'm not a psych but I guarantee you that an expert in the field would not say "fuel the fire". Venting, sure, but not venting in a way that develops an unhealthy inability to move past unsubstantiated and negative stereotypes. Shit it helps to just have people listen. It helps much more if those people aren't saying "keep up the anger and implement it toward 50% of the population".

Can you even try? Or is everything those Red Pill guys say about girls the truth?

You didn't try to get me to do this, a simple "do you understand the anger" would have sufficed. Instead you made an argument against something I never contested in the first place. Had you have legitimately asked, instead of strawmanned in a very sarcastic way, I happily would have answered you directly.

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The idea of an 'anger phase' is so childish.

I disagree, I think anger can be a useful and productive emotion. Denying anger or ignoring it over the long-term is more harmful in my opinion. I'm basing this on what I have observed from the people around me however, so your experiences may differ.

Instead of overcoming problems rationally, hey, lets allow ourselves a 'brief' period of anger at women, society, the people who gave us bad advice.

I think anger is often a necessary component when dealing with significant, unexpected changes. It can lead to more level headed, and rationale decisions ultimately. Again, I think anger is a normal emotion, and it can be very healthy to express anger in responsible, focused ways. I've used anger to train harder in work-outs for example, and as motivation to complete projects or create art.

That said, perpetual anger that goes unchecked and uncontrolled can be destructive and lead to many problems.

As is evident by RP subs... most all RP men never fully recover from this 'brief' period.

I don't agree with this. Some of the loudest voices are often the angriest, I think that's true to a certain extent. There are also many users that only lurk and never actively add to that segment of the community. Others that start out angry and then get over it and move on. I suspect the majority of users take what they need from TRP and then move on quietly with their lives.

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When you have to point to lurkers to show that a sub isn't permeated with vitriol, you're not doing well.

Ultimately it's about a user's personal journey and whether or not they can utilize the information provided to achieve their desired goals. Personally, I think there could be some very positive changes implemented to the sub, but it's not my call and they probably don't care what my opinions are - which is fine.

I know there are some users that actively try to help users progress past the anger phase and move onto more important focuses. The TRP chat for example, is a great resource. Users are encourage to do more than simply talk, and are pushed to improve themselves in several different ways.

TRP has a large userbase, with new additions every day. The less experienced users are shuffled off to the askTRP sub when they ask simple questions.

Everyone has different ideas, approaches, goals, and priorities. Some seem to use it purely as a space to vent, others as a resource for information and ideas.

At the end of the day, every sub has room for improvement. I know the TRP mods have a lot of ideas they want to execute, and that they work to make TRP a useful community. Regardless of whether I agree or disagree with their ideas and direction, I understand they have a lot to deal with and consider.

I'm sure all those lurkers are simply great people though, agreed.

There's an idea I've heard before, and I must say that I pretty much agree with it: debating on PPD is pointless because you'll never change the mind of the person you're talking to - but you're also not trying to convince them. You're talking to the fence-sitters, the readers, and the lurkers. You are presenting your case to them, and hoping it makes a difference.

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It's like an unavoidable positive-feedback loop. It's like a very very long staircase with a revolving door at the bottom.

TRP grows, it gains new subscribers who are in their anger phase at the beginning of their journey. While these guys are going through their journey another bunch of subscribers walk through the door a month later. They're fresh to the sub and are now a month behind those who started reading a month earlier, they go through the same realisations, same indignation, same anger and end up expressing it in the same way (posting it to the sub).

This activity leads to the sub growing, so next month even more people come in through the door and they're at the bottom of the staircase. They now start their climb but they are two months behind the people who first came to the sub. They have the same realisations etc.

This continues ad nauseam. The sub is at 146K now. In a 6 months, it may be 160K. That's 14,000 people starting from the beginning, going through the same set of emotions, coming to the same realisations and making the same posts that seem par for the course to people who have been on the sub for a long time.

The mods are doing a great job from cutting a lot of the shit-posts, but it's an inevitable consequence of the sub's growth. There will always be new people starting their journey and they'll be angry. So it can seem like the sub is full of anger, but looking at the people who are making these posts, they're all different people. But when enough people are making the same points over and over, to someone who's been on the sub for a while it can look like stuff never changes and that there's an undercurrent of anger permeating through the sub.

It's probably best if TRP is left as a little cul-de-sac where guys can go to vent before leaving for other parts of the web, I don't imagine this situation will improve any as the sub continues to grow. I don't imagine everyone who comes to TRP succeeds, I imagine some never leave the anger phase, but if for every one person that's stuck there's another who improves themselves, the sub is 100% worth it.

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Who should this anger be directed at, though?

Established thought and its supporters, this includes "women" as a group.

Why are particular women responsible for what some see as a collective 'lie' (if that's what you think it is) participated in by the whole of society?

They're not, but they're (on the whole) untrustworthy and aberrantly conditioned.

Women aren't 'lying' when they say they 'like nice men'

Baby turtle.

Who and what are they angry at, in precise terms?

See above.

It seems irrational to me to get angry about a collective societal assumption - especially if you once bought into the 'lie' yourself. That is not a righteous anger.

Men can and do have feelings. Being lied to and mislead ones entire life (especially about something so central to life goals and fulfillment) is something that stirs anger. RIGHTEOUSLY so.

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Established thought and its supporters

Right, and it also includes plugged in men - the 'before' version of the men we're talking about. If no one's really aware that something is a 'lie' to the point that you yourself are a participator in it, how can you rightfully be angry at everyone else when you change your mind about things? Isn't that a bit like getting viciously angry at people in the 60s for thinking smoking wasn't harmful?

They're not, but they're (on the whole) untrustworthy and aberrantly conditioned.

Not particularly more untrustworthy than you're average man I'd argue, but we'll probably have to agree to disagree on that one.

Being lied to and mislead ones entire life

I suppose I don't consider this an instance of 'being lied to'. Like I said, if anything I think it's more an instance of collective, general misunderstanding about the particulars of female attraction. There's no intentional deceit. What even IS the lie, in your eyes? Why would women be actively and intentionally perpetuating it?

I'm afraid I'm not catching on with 'baby turtle'.

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Man I just feel so sad about this whole thing I don't know why , But after reading everything I agree with this decision 100%.

Men build edifices. Women show up when edifices are built, asking, "where's my share?".

This is 100% disrespectful, it shows a lack of understanding , and coming from someone who is so esteem in the RP community is simply disappointing.

RPW have always been amazing, I never posted there and simply use the sub to know what could be if I become the man I should be.

Unfortunately RP has no political skills , and barely any social skills , this is evident in the entire manosphear , we all hate each other, so TRP mods not respecting RPW is the norm.

They don't respect , PUA, MGTOW, or even Men's right, every one talks smack about every one.

I see a lot of young boys looking for something to believe in and I truly believe with all its fault RP is the best by far, and I mean by far, nothing compares to the benefits it has brought me in my life.

TRP has stated it has no interests in tactical assimilation, so it will use terms like plate, hamster, shit test, bitch,slut, whore . Even feminist are more tactical in their approach with toxic masculinity.

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I think I got the general ideas.

Archwinger made a post in RPW (don't know the content) and regardless of the validity of the info the “tone" he used most have being insulting to women there, then the mods decided to remove the post and finally Scottish decided to use his authority as top mod to defend Archwinger's right to post, and also decided to make rules as to what the mod team should ban, the rest of the mods didn't like it so they separate themselves entirely of TRP. The irc channel thing is another story but I bet the above played a part too.

Scottish's stand in “better be slapped with the truth, than be kissed by lies" is something I do agree on, but truth is hard to take, that doesn't mean it has to be hard to deliver, and Archwinger's retoric (which I do like) is a counter balance to MS feminist retoric thus overly aggressive.

I know there's a middle ground here, and I'm strongly against fracturing the community.

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This is the transactional thinking that kills genuine connections (if they ever existed) in relationships imo. Its funny because TBP usually harshly criticizes TRP for viewing relationships as a transaction, then pulls shit like this out and shows their true colors. Thinking like this leads to a culture of combat dating, which women usually win at, and this is exactly what spawned TRP in the first place. TRP = advice for how to win at combat dating.

RPW, especially the women I know IRL who think very similarly to the sub but have no idea what reddit is, have helped me to grasp the concept of having character. The happily married/LTR women I know don't think of their relationship as a transaction. They view their treatment of their SO as a reflection of their character, and being a good wife as a goal unto itself that is not dependent on their SO's behavior. Yes, this can hypothetically lead to one sided situations, but with the amount of screening such women typically do for their husbands, it rarely does.

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Wow, very very on-point. Although, I don't necessarily agree that /u/questioningwoman is specifically describing a transactional type of relationship. She's describing a feedback system for responding to how your SO treats you, to avoid imbalance in relationship that can lead to dissatisfaction on one side and complacency on the other. Different people want the give/take to operate differently, and at different levels, with their partner. Some couples work best with a very large amount of give-and-take from both sides, and other couples work better in a more independent way, where they coexist effectively and interact in a more mutual way. Two good concrete examples are surprises and gift-giving. Some couples give each other a lot of gifts because they like the feeling of receiving something from them, as a sort of testament to their commitment and love or whatever. Others prefer to buy their own shit, if they're pickier or have other ways of expressing their commitment/love. Some partners are very frugal and find regular gift-giving to be wasteful and pointless. Others derive enough sentimental value from it that they see it as totally worth the cost. Surprises operate similarly: some couples find it touching, and others find it distracting, a nightmare of coordination/planning, and devoid of meaning. It depends on the language the couple has settled into for communicating their appreciation and feelings for one another.

Thus since a lot of these things are hard to discuss explicitly, a good way of settling into a good balance is to measure how much giving/taking your partner gives you over time, and adjusting your level to better reflect and respond to theirs. If you realize your partner is not giving you the level of reciprocation (whether it be too much or too little) that you want, then it may be a reason to end the relationship, either now, or to prevent it from becoming a long-term commitment. The amount of time you plan on investing in your relationship seems like a very important factor, since it dictates the day-to-day nature of the relationship.

It is a delicate matter when "record-keeping" starts happening, where one side or the other says "I've done x y and z for you and you've done nothing for me, so now what?" Usually it's not a good way of looking at things unless the balance gets so bad that it's necessary. Overall, it's better to say "I'd like you to play this role in the relationship" as an individual need, instead of referring to it in the greater context of how much has been given and taken by both partners. If the balance is a problem, it will become a running trend. if the individual need is a problem but the balance isn't, expressing the individual need to a partner who has good will should allow that need to become accounted for in some way, and eventually incorporated into that overall balance. The need itself is the problem worth discussing in that case, not the balance.

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Consider the difference between RPW and the new sub to be analogous to the difference between TRP and MRP.

There were some competing concerns that allowing a broader range of people and viewpoints in RPW would encourage women to become plates, vs concerns that a more conservative moderation policy would prevent altogether the discussion of some obstacles faced by women who are not yet wives, but wish to successfully become so.

In this respect, people's needs are probably best served not by choosing one approach, but allowing both to have their own community, so individuals seeking help and advice can pick what works for them.

In general, you can expect RPW to be little bit more lightly modded in the future, while the new sub will most likely use moderation more vigorously in order to maintain a tighter focus on certain particular strategies and viewpoints.

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Can you explain this part a little further?

RPS felt that banning respected RPW users from TRP, or vice versa, was creating a pair of monocultures where opposing views were being silenced, rather than debated with.

Others felt that certain views were very dangerous.

Basically, it boils down to:

Someone just said something that makes your blood boil. Do you construct a rebuttal, or remove them with a mod tool? RPS favoured the first approach, others wanted a place where the second approach was used.

And can you give examples of such obstacles?

For example, many TRP writers advise men to avoid marriage. Marriage is, however, central to the typically RPW writer's goals.

So, is someone who is in the habit of advising men to avoid marriage welcome in the women's discussion group, or not?

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It seems to me that the dispute was about moderation and the contents and aims of the new sub will the same as the old one. In this case, whatever beef bloops have before will remain, especially since it still has "red pill" in its name.

Although I do agree with you that there is no reason BP should care about them wanting to live traditionally, fact is they do because anyone living in a way different to how they live is bad.

Hardly anything new in the feminist movement tho is it?

"No woman should be authorized to stay at home and raise her children. Society should be totally different. Women should not have that choice, precisely because if there is such a choice, too many women will make that one."

-Simone de Beauvoir

Feminism: freeing women from the patriarchy so we can control you instead.

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but we feel the culture of reddit

...Which will still be there unless you move off reddit...

combined with the male userbase of TRP has distorted certain ideas almost beyond recognition and comprehension

How so? I'd point out they came up with it, and last I saw rpw was happy to ban anyone that didn't agree with them.

In the interest of self-preservation we feel the only sensible course of action is to create a non-affiliated sub where the Mods and users will not be forced to accept advice, input, or influence from users that have zero interest in giving RPW relevant advice that furthers the female sexual strategy of dating and marriage.

If you couldn't do that in your old sub, what's changed?

All i'm seeing is an attempt to rebrand without even rebranding as you've kept the 'redpill' part, the only difference now is all the male mods are gone...I can see this going the way of twox.

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The old subreddit was basically turning into a sub about advice, fashion, and cooking. The new girls didn't read the material or bother to understand what RPW was even about. People were interested in being housewives, 1950s style women, or a host of other stereotypes that aren't the focus of RPW. This new sub is a fresh start and we have expanded the scope of the subreddit and made it clear in several locations. We will have more discussion of current events, philosophy, science, and culture in general. As an example I posted one of Milo's full videos to the sub, and there is other content that is more about feminism specifically vs relationships. Another thing we will add is more Girl Game. A lot of the old ECs don't come around anymore so the sub is mostly newbies and intermediate people. We will be focusing on the sexual strategy aspect of RPW for both single and married women.

I am very excited about all of the possibilities and I can offer more clarifications or insights if you want!

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There were female bloggers within the manosphere before the RP subreddit was founded.

I have no doubt that is the case.

This new subreddit has a wider scope than /r/RedPillWomen and it will be moderated differently.

...Couldn't you have just widened the scope then?

It is important to all of the former /r/RedPillWomen moderation team that we have control of what we can do on the subreddit

According to you you had full control of the subreddit.

and that we are respected.

As long as you continue to use RP and associate with the manosphere that will most likely never happen.

We are aligning ourselves with the manosphere because that is where the majority of us learned about RP theory

I'd seriously question that, i'd bet most of your readership learned of rpw through reddit like a large percentage of trpers.

I am excited about this fresh start and all of the possibilities!

If you couldn't do it before what's changed?

As i've observed earlier this whole thing smacks of a claim to originality/legitimacy that seems very hollow, to me it seems like rpw is trying to set itself as trps equal rather than offshoot when the reality is while some women were redpill before trp, ultimately the vast majority of your userbase came later.

To go back to my earlier analogy, nu=rpw is no claiming to be the original one true church and denouncing old rpw as heresy, i'm getting an almost SJW vibe here.

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...Couldn't you have just widened the scope then?

The direction that we want our sub to go in is incompatible with the goals of the RP Network.

According to you you had full control of the subreddit.

We were subject to the rules of the RP Network and any of us could be demodded at any time without warning.

As long as you continue to use RP and associate with the manosphere that will most likely never happen.

We were not respected by the other members of the RP Network, which is why we removed ourselves from the equation. We do not care if non subreddit members approve of our subreddit, but if we are on a team of mods it should be united, and that wasn't the case.

I'd seriously question that, i'd bet most of your readership learned of rpw through reddit like a large percentage of trpers.

I was speaking specifically of the moderation team, which is why I used myself as an example.

If you couldn't do it before what's changed?

Several examples of disrespect, policy changes that affected the RP Network, and a lot more behind the scenes. We have made a clean break and are focusing on building a better community for our women.

As i've observed earlier this whole thing smacks of a claim to originality/legitimacy that seems very hollow, to me it seems like rpw is trying to set itself as trps equal rather than offshoot when the reality is while some women were redpill before trp, ultimately the vast majority of your userbase came later.

I'm not sure why you think this is about comparing ourselves to the RP subreddit, we made a new subreddit so that we can exist on our own, and set our own standards.

To go back to my earlier analogy, nu=rpw is no claiming to be the original one true church and denouncing old rpw as heresy, i'm getting an almost SJW vibe here.

/r/RedPillWives is not denouncing the old subreddit. The moderation team was unsatisfied with the RP Network for public and private reasons and we have made a change. If you read the about page it is impossible for you to get an "SJW vibe".

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The direction that we want our sub to go in is incompatible with the goals of the RP Network.

The rp network had goals!? I thought it was sexual strategy not activism.

We were subject to the rules of the RP Network and any of us could be demodded at any time without warning.

I though the male mods were hands off?

We were not respected by the other members of the RP Network, which is why we removed ourselves from the equation.

What seems to be part way between mutiny and ragequit probably wont change that...

We do not care if non subreddit members approve of our subreddit, but if we are on a team of mods it should be united, and that wasn't the case.

See my earlier statement.

I was speaking specifically of the moderation team, which is why I used myself as an example.

So what? A couple of members of it?

Several examples of disrespect, policy changes that affected the RP Network, and a lot more behind the scenes.

Spill the beans sister.

We have made a clean break and are focusing on building a better community for our women.

I wish you luck in that.

we made a new subreddit so that we can exist on our own, and set our own standards.

You made a new sub that is the old sub, you just have more control and now claim to be getting your gospel straight from the source instead of having it tainted by heretics.

/r/RedPillWives is not denouncing the old subreddit.

It very much comes across that way.

If you read the about page it is impossible for you to get an "SJW vibe".

As i've said, I've read it, the vibe is from your tactics not your aim/tone.

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The rp network had goals!? I thought it was sexual strategy not activism.

The RP subs are all owned by one user, they have final say over everything, and can at any time 'clean house' if they do not like the way things are going. The RPW moderating team could not reconcile things, and instead of sitting back and allowing changes we strongly disagree with to take over the sub we have all worked hard to moderate and shape over the past few years, we made the decision to leave and start again.

I though the male mods were hands off?

Yes, but owning a sub means that at the end of the day, you still hold all the cards. We want to be in full control of how the RPW community operates, and have the ability to introduce useful additions to the community in terms of focus and content. We are still RP. We still agree with RP ideas.

What seems to be part way between mutiny and ragequit probably wont change that...

Disagreements, dismissal, and disrespect were only a concern while we were actively and visibly part of the TRP subreddits. Now that we have an independent sub, their opinions of us are ultimately irrelevant.

We have resigned as mods, created a new space and removed only the work that we contributed in terms of formatting, flairs, threads, the wiki, and sidebar material. We left it as we found it. We just want to go our own way and focus on building a new community.

You made a new sub that is the old sub, you just have more control and now claim to be getting your gospel straight from the source instead of having it tainted by heretics.

None of our ideas have changed. We're still RP, we still want to help women improve themselves and their relationships. We are not obligated to enforce certain policies and practices that we all disagreed with.

It very much comes across that way.

We don't hate RPW, we don't hate RP ideas. Users are not forbidden from posting to the old sub, no one is forcing anyone to change over. The moderating team has plans we want to see come to fruition, and we're making it happen by getting work done. Whether people stay, leave, or participate on both subs will be a decision every user makes for themselves.

As i've said, I've read it, the vibe is from your tactics not your aim/tone.

I'm not sure I understand. We have made every effort to work with and keep the Red Pill Women sub running smoothly. Things reached a point where that no longer became possible. We all stepped down and removed ourselves as mods respectfully and swiftly. No one is slinging sh-t or throwing a fit. We have created a community we are all excited about and simply want to move forward.

I wish you luck in that.

Thank you for the well-wishes. :0)

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No, they don't. Sluts don't want to capture anything. Do you honestly believe women are so dumb as to believe that they can capture a high smv man by using sex? They wouldn't be sluts if that was so. Women also learn from their mistakes. If they were trying to get a high smv man by havin sex they would have stopped being sluts after realizing that they can't use it to get a high smv man, dude.

Why do people believe this nonsense that women can't just enjoy sex for the sake of having sex and that they're just women who use sex to get a high smv man instead of just enjoying sex with a variety of high smv men?

The majority of women only put out in the context of a relationship? If the guy is average, sure. Oh, I hate TRP. But I equally hate the BP and I think both pills are retarded.

Why wouldn't they give me the sexy for free? Are they prostitutes that need money or attention or validation to put out?

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I don't really care about what the women on this sub have to say about this or anything. The only thing coming out of a woman's mouth that I honestly believe is when she tells me the word 'no' when I ask her if she wants to sleep with me. Other than that.. women are compulsive liars.

Men are too, don't take me wrong. Women are just far better at it. The women here... well, I doubt they have the social capital to fuck chads or men who are close to it so they tell themselves they don't enjoy sex outside of relationships. Meanwhile there's dudes on tinder fucking hot women like its going out of style.

The majority of the women who are attractive and young fuck casually, the rest pull down a boyfriend as fast as they can. There you go. You had lots of casual sex with all kinds of women. That means most women will have casual sex if the guy is hot enough. it just happens ;) it wasn't planned, so that proves women's belief that they don't want casual sex. It just happened. Well, guess what. They're women. Shit happens to them.

Funny, most of the attractive women I know are perma single, either because they are waiting for chad to settle down or because they enjoy casual sex. its the average and ugly women who get a guy and stick to him.

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Title	New independent RPW sub -- Redpillwives
Author	_wingnut_
Upvotes	44
Comments	359
Date	April 3, 2016 5:54 AM UTC (10 years ago)
Subreddit	Posted in /r/PurplePillDebate
Original Link	https://old.reddit.com/r/PurplePillDebate/comments/4d54wj/new_independent_rpw_sub_redpillwives/
Archive Link	https://theredarchive.com/r/PurplePillDebate/new-independent-rpw-sub-redpillwives.275321 https://theredarchive.com/post/275321

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