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A woman paid for two lap dances from a male stripper, during which she grabbed his junk, blew him and fucked him. She later regretted it and, instead of owning, cried sexual assault. He was thrown in jail for 2 years. He’s finally getting a new trial by appeal. Wtf is wrong with these women

TheToxicWyvern

December 18, 2019

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Title	A woman paid for two lap dances from a male stripper, during which she grabbed his junk, blew him and fucked him. She later regretted it and, instead of owning, cried sexual assault. He was thrown in jail for 2 years. He’s finally getting a new trial by appeal. Wtf is wrong with these women
Author	TheToxicWyvern
Upvotes	3931
Comments	231
Date	December 18, 2019 8:50 AM UTC (6 years ago)
Subreddit	Posted in /r/MensRights
Original Link	https://old.reddit.com/r/MensRights/comments/eca35j/a_woman_paid_for_two_lap_dances_from_a_male/
Archive Link	https://theredarchive.com/r/MensRights/a-woman-paid-for-two-lap-dances-from-a-male.862737 https://theredarchive.com/post/862737

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[+]mrmensplights1 points 6 years ago [recovered] (1 child) | Copy Link

They have nothing to complain about now and feminism has never been stronger. If you think the feminist meme is perpetuated by actual inequality then you're in for a bad time.

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Which time? :( the last one was threats, and approaching causing them to passout (plus one other instance). Unfortunately for them, i had stat declarations and evidence which proved otherwise. It was still numerous court sessions and the feminist judge "accidentally" forgetting to notify applicant that court had been ajourned for them failing to show up. I was also told "i do not care for your evidence which proves you are innocent"

I must note that these applications are usually applied for when trying to sort out custody of children to make the father look bad. Which was what mine have been. I have been lucky that on the occasions ive received the summons that my child hasn't been in my care.

Other cases ive heard were a lot worse than mine in terms of the false allogations. You can tell most of the time wjen the guys a dick in court and when the woman are making shit up.

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Exactly my thoughts. There are corrupt systems, however it does not mean all women are corrupt like this. I should know. I have quite the many female acquaintances. They accept me and don’t try to harm me just for who I am, they accept me.

Men can be just as bad, and have been in the past. Do you remember a time when women were treated as objects by the entire society? I do not, however it was commonplace all around the globe at one point in history. The same goes for people of colour. They were treated as animals one time in history, now we accept them as being human. Maybe we are going through a new time in history where men are treated badly, and our future generations will look down and say, “Why did we humans do this?” They will ponder the same questions we look back on now. We just need to push past this. Maybe we can get it all resolved a lot faster than what happened in the past. Be the change, not the end.

[+]menstruatrix1 points 6 years ago [recovered] (3 children) | Copy Link

I paid a prostitute and then I had sex with the prostitute I paid. Clearly no reasonable person could believe sex was what I had in mind when I gave money to the person who has sex for money.

[+]EevieXo1 points 6 years ago [recovered] (2 children) | Copy Link

Obviously you were raped. I'm so sorry you should absolutely report the incident to the police! I'm sure they will see it from your point of view.

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It's an excuse as old as time, "He made me do it."

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Honestly wouldn't surprise me, it's usually either this, or she's scared of her friends finding out and gets embarrassed then seems to think that justifies her making a false accusation.

For those who don't know, it's actually very interesting even if it is psychotic how women like this justify false accusations. The main reasons seem to be embarrassment, revenge and money. The embarrassment side of things I find particularly interesting because it isn't as predictable if you haven't already studied the behaviour before because I really do wonder how fucking entitled do you have to be to think that a totally innocent man deserves to go to jail just because you're embarrassed about a casual hookup and are afraid of people finding out.

Think of the sort of mentality it takes to do that, you're basically telling everyone you found the guy that disgusting or bad generally afterwards even though you were a completely willing partner in that situation that you think that ruining his life is acceptable just because of your fucking pride and social status.

That's what I think the embarrassment aspect is about, the money and revenge thing is predictable but it's incredible how there are women out there who go to extremes over how they think their friends and acquaintances will view them. If it weren't for MRAs I would never have found out about this sort of aspect to false accusations, everyone sees this stuff in the media but the media never really goes that into why these accusations happen in the first place.

I bring it up because it gives you a bit of a glimpse into what was probably going through this woman's mind when she made the accusation against the male stripper in the first place.

[–]chadwickofwv 8 points9 points10 points 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

[–]Egalitarianwhistle 2 points3 points4 points 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

MOTIVATIONS FOR A FALSE RAPE ACCUSATION (DE ZUTTER 2017)

Material gain: to receive money, professional promotion) or other material benefits.
Producing an alibi: a false allegation is used to cover up other behaviour, such as being late or absent to an appointment.
Revenge: to retaliate against a disliked person by damaging the reputation, freedom or finances.
Attention: an attempt to receive any kind of attention, positive or negative, by anyone.
Sympathy: a special kind of attention-seeking whereby the complainant tries to improve a personal relationship with a specific individual.
'A disturbed mental state'; this may include false memories ("sexual hallucinations") or pathologic lying.
Relabeling: consensual sex is relabeled 'rape' to the police, because of its 'disappointing or shameful character'. De Zutter et al. argue that a distinction should be made between some acts during a consensual sexual encounter that a participant did not want or had no desire to engage in but nonetheless gave consent to (e.g. to please their partner) on the one hand, and rape (nonconsensual sex) on the other, but that many lay people and even some scholars do not make this distinction and confuse the two. It is often when accounts of such 'unwanted consensual sex' are told to friends and family that the latter interpret it as rape, and put the complainant under pressure to file an allegation.
Regret: after having had consensual sex, a complainant experiences negative feelings such as disgust, shame, and sorrow; when others notice this and ask about the source of these negative feelings, they are prone to view the encounter as rape and put the complainant under pressure to file an allegation.

'Don't know'

According to De Zutter et al. (2017), 20% of complainants said that they did not know why they had filed a false allegation.[8]

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ok boomer

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"in a way"? lmao shut the fuck up

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Hang this cunt. Imagine the shit she's done to innocent men we haven't even heard about.

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Remember Epstein.

I always try to leave a little something for everyone in my comment.

¯\_(ツ)_/¯

women in robes at state level courts?

33%.

I don't see this as raising to the level of alarm your comments elicit. Literally there are more men judges doling out the same harsh sentences to male spousal battery perps for a reason and its not because they have teh peniz.

Perhaps women are better judges of women and men better judges of men, because they have a deeper perspective in common gender. Did you ever think of that? And did you think that the numbers can be flipped - that male judges are harsher on women than female judges?

Men get harsher sentencing over DV because the societal trend is for men to escalate the violence, not the other way around. Sometimes escalation even to murder.

This isn't r/incel, true, that sub mocks the positions posted here. This sub has drawn a fair share of male metoos, and the comments throughout this post is clear evidence.

Anyways, good convo!

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I see you feel threatened by an opinion that runs contrary to yours. Did you really need to type those last two comments? Do you really think I am actually going to 'fuck off and die"

I certainly don't feel threatened by anything you have got to say, more just disgusted that you'd defend what went on here and side with the outcome of a perpetrator

And how did you come up with the conclusion that I am OK with all of this? Or even better question: Why do you think the judge was easy on her just because they both packed ovaries?"

I can only assume you're ok with it since you are defending it

Really now, your attack shows a great deal of masculinity victimization and defensive posturing on your part. Do you feel threatened here?

Oh I'm sorry, did I 'attack' you? Christ I wouldn't want to make you feel under attack or feel threatened lol. Masculinity victimisation and defensive posturing? I wonder, does the tone conveyed here represent the view that somehow defending ones masculinity and calling out victimhood of males, say in legal cases (such as the one in question) is somehow wrong, or laughable? What a very sexist viewpoint to have. Imagine I had tried to put down a woman saying she feels threatened because she's playing the 'victim of femininity'. The masses would be out with their pitchforks. But alas, feminist bigots and white knights can't smell their own hypocritical bullshit never mind see it. Good day.

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Toxic Feminism.

The real blame for this kind of thing are the weak beta cuck men that “m’lady” their way through life, giving women the social and legal fuel to continue to act this way.

Men need to learn to defend themselves legally. Being a male stripper today (anytime in the past 5-10 years) is practically legal suicide. This guy took a huge risk by working that job when, in principle, it shouldn’t be a risk at all.

Imagine every woman you meet is a potential “metoo” accusation against you, and avoid them accordingly. That’s about the safest way to orient yourself these days.

There are recent stories of men at mixed workplaces refusing to socialize or even interact with female employees for fear of being hit with a false “metoo” accusation. In fact, I’m going to call it right here...

Soon we’re going to see men targeted with lawsuits for being “unsociable” at the workplace.

[+]DelayedNeutron1 points 6 years ago* [recovered] (6 children) | Copy Link

Imagine every woman you meet is a potential “metoo” accusation against you, and avoid them accordingly. That’s about the safest way to orient yourself these days.

This needs to be "male management trainee" training material, front page, in bold. No closed doors, no shared rides, rule of 3 at ALL times, NEVER travel with female co-workers, stay in a different hotel, and zero socializing outside of organized groups.

It's pathetic, but I'm not letting someone with an unrelated bone to pick over being held accountable for their inability to do their job take me down with a fucking hashtag.

[+]comehugme1 points 6 years ago* [recovered] (3 children) | Copy Link

Exactly. This is exactly how I act in the workplace. I don't spend time alone with any women. Ain't gonna risk it. The only place where I'm alone is in the lifts. I can't do otherwise.

[+]DelayedNeutron1 points 6 years ago* [recovered] (2 children) | Copy Link

You better hope the elevators have cameras.

If there's not a third person on, I will excuse myself. Hashtag notme, bitches.

[+]comehugme1 points 6 years ago* [recovered] (1 child) | Copy Link

They don't have cameras. Old lifts. Funny thing is the women who argue and fight among each other said that I never spend any time socialising with them. And question why I don't work late or one on one with them.

I even leave doors open when I'm alone with a women

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Toxic Feminism.

You mean Toxic beta masculinity? Every word you typed is the most toxic anti woman and male self destructive shit I've read in a hot minute.

What woman shit on your life to the point you advocate total sexual abstention between future spouses, and an avoidance of any place where genders might meet.

Your comment was so full of over the top worse case scenarios I had to analyse how you use your account.

I didn't have to go into your post history to see you spend a lot of time in the fem toxic subs (here, trashy, ppd, et al) and you type the word, men, women, and rights almost as much as you do all other words together. You are human, by the word "people" as your most typed word out of the last 1000 posts, which is really disturbing.

You can't let your pain from being dumped or ignored by your potentials spill over and negatively impact other men on reddit.

Why don't you just do yourself a favor and get castrated? You don't plan on using them balls for anything other than a hand cushion anyways.

Aren't you glad your daddy didn't have your attitude? Otherwise you might have been just a stain under his computer desk.

Good grief, son get better soon!

[–]rwp80 13 points14 points15 points 6 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link

You mean Toxic beta masculinity?

Same exact thing.

Every word you typed is the most toxic anti woman and male self destructive shit I've read in a hot minute.

No, not even close. try r/MGTOW

you advocate total sexual abstention between future spouses, and an avoidance of any place where genders might meet.

I didn't advocate couples to abstain from sex. I *observed* that men are getting wiser to the fact that any encounter with a woman can be easily conflated into a a false accusation, just like the man in the OP story.

Your comment was so full of over the top worse case scenarios I had to analyse how you use your account.

Analyze my account lol... The hallmark of a butthurt feminist attacking my character instead of arguing a point. This is known as the Ad Hominem attack, and is basically you saying you have nothing better to argue back with.

I didn't have to go into your post history to see you spend a lot of time in the fem toxic subs (here, trashy, ppd, et al) and you type the word, men, women, and rights almost as much as you do all other words together. You are human, by the word "people" as your most typed word out of the last 1000 posts, which is really disturbing.

You can't let your pain from being dumped or ignored by your potentials spill over and negatively impact other men on reddit.

Everything you wrote there is just pure cringe, trying to place yourself in some form of superior position by judging my reddit post history. Again, the hallmark of a loser with no argument. You really shot yourself in the foot there.

Why don't you just do yourself a favor and get castrated? You don't plan on using them balls for anything other than a hand cushion anyways.

Just to add the cherry on the cake, the habitual anti-male genital insult. What's your next joke, Mrs Comedian? Penis size and balding head? Again, pure cringe, just showing your true colours as a man-hater.

Aren't you glad your daddy didn't have your attitude? Otherwise you might have been just a stain under his computer desk.

Hahahah if my Dad ever got that good at using computers, I'd buy him a beer!

Besides, I was conceived way before computers were widely available. Did you think you were talking to some edgy 12-year-old gen-Z kiddo lol

Good grief, son get better soon!

I'm doing fine. Endured multiple false accusations similar to OP, found NOT GUILTY in criminal court all THREE times - Apparently my ex-wife thought she could use the criminal system like a gossip blog, much like the woman in the OP story.

[–]WikiTextBot 3 points4 points5 points 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Ad hominem

Ad hominem (Latin for "to the person"), short for argumentum ad hominem, typically refers to a fallacious argumentative strategy whereby genuine discussion of the topic at hand is avoided by instead attacking the character, motive, or other attribute of the person making the argument, or persons associated with the argument, rather than attacking the substance of the argument itself. The terms ad mulierem and ad feminam have been used specifically when the person receiving the criticism is female.

Fallacious ad hominem reasoning is categorized among informal fallacies, more precisely as a genetic fallacy, a subcategory of fallacies of irrelevance.

However, the term's original meaning was an argument "calculated to appeal to the person addressed more than to impartial reason".

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The judge should be subjected to lynching and stone pelting. Canada is a country known for a fulfilling quality of life and equality. Not anymore IMO.

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It's not about those types of women. Those types of women are a symptom of a greater issue: that a man's entire social status is dependent on what he does for a living.

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Men need to be okay with not dating a woman that doesn't work just because she's hot, and leaving if she refuses to. If you allow yourself to be exploited in return for pussy, you are a pussy.

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Did you just compare the political correctness movement to Nazi Germany?

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No he did not...

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He just doubled down and said they’re actually worse than that. So...definitely is drawing that comparison.

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Sexual assault needs to be reported immediately. If there is no evidence of forced entry, no witnesses, and it’s reported weeks or months after than it needs to be thrown out.

You can’t report a robbery this way, you sure as hell shouldn’t be able to report sexual assault this way.

They also need to eliminate civil court claims of this shit, go to a counselor and handle your emotional baggage.

Edit: also I would be filing a civil suit for damages against that strip club if I were the guy. The club should have gotten those ladies removed and not allowed them to touch the talent.

The fact these women can touch the male performers dick is unbelievable! Could you imagine being able to even grab a female stripper, let alone fondle her tits or finger her?! You’d have a mud hole stomped in you! Every male that walks into a club knows this- so why is this not the law of the land in male strip clubs?!

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I'm 34 years old. Two of my girlfriends have cheated on me, both claimed "sexual assault".

Psychologically, it's too easy to understand. Nobody wants others to see them as a bad person. This is the perfect scenario where, with a slight rearrangement of facts, one can transform themselves from the perpetrator to the victim. A simple white lie can successfully deflect responsibility of wrongdoing and simultaneously gain sympathy from the people their actions would hurt the most.

She has everything to lose, boyfriend, social standings, judgment from her family. It can all be solved by crying victim. If a girl pops a Xanax, Molly, or sniffs some white then dumps booze on it, she might do anything, with anyone and not care who's around to see it. Then regret it in the morning. I don't understand how a judge couldn't see this.

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You wish, but it's not a civil matter so it's entirely at the whims of the state itself.

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Feeling that way is completely valid and expressing those feelings are commendable even but spewing hate and toxicity isn't.

When people say, "wait this is bullshit, if we swapped the genders then this wouldn't have happened, the case would have been thrown out for sure" that's probably true although hard to verify tbh but alas, expressing that sentiment is fair game and many women would agree with it.

Saying, "fuck women, their feminine toxicity is ruining being a man" etc, (honestly I don't really want to go through the comments to find actual lines but it's all over this post) just reinforces hate, doesn't bring anyone closer to an actual solution and is just lame.

Bringing up the actual issues is the way to complain, attacking women everywhere for the actions of one woman is stupid and hateful.

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No, men have been disenfranchised in these ways since before feminism was a real movement.

Who went to war, was traumatized, told to keep a stiff upper lip, told to stuff all their trauma and emotions down until they were on the brink of suicide, WHO has been minimizing men's emotions for goddamn fucking CENTURIES.

You know who has? My uncles, my male teachers, my male gym teachers, fucking MEN have been doing that shit to other MEN.

Men have been disenfranchising men for fucking centuries, feminism, at it's core when it hasn't been warped by people full of as much hate as you, was about making sure women had the same rights as men. Some people, with hearts full of hate and malice, have turned it into "men are evil and need to die" but doing the opposite isn't helping anyone.

At to the hating women comment, sure maybe you haven't (I did look through your comment history and I don't agree with your views, but I didn't see the extreme vitriol) but look in this thread and there are tons of dudes talking about how much they hate women.

But I digress, feminism is not to blame for how shitty men have it in certain areas of today's world, it's us that have done this to ourselves. Jesus fucking christ.

https://everydayfeminism.com/2012/08/why-men-need-feminism-3/

The list they have at the beginning, I challenge ANY man on this goddamn fucking planet to tell me they've never felt one of those things.

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