Growing up I always have been a disaster with women. So for most of my life I have stayed away from them. This was not done intentionally on my part, it's just the way things went. I did marry, eventually... but it was a very late in life marriage. At the age of fifty, after having corresponded online for quite some time, I married a woman from the Philipines who was more than two decades younger than me. Things went well for a while but quickly went South. The problem that stood in between us the most was my inability to give her children without having to undergo expensive fertility treatments.
She insisted I undergo them anyway, I refused to be poked and prodded like an animal by doctors and have my beanbag examined in medical facilities. It was too humiliating for me, I would rather just adopt or have none at all. She disagreed... she had to have her own biological offspring at all costs.
So I said no... I put my foot down, firmly. Till here, and no further. She said: "Why don't we have a child through a donor? I would carry it and birth and it would be mine... and nobody, even the kid, would be any wiser." I said no. Hell no. I'm not going to raise another man's child, put in all my effort and resources into raising it. I just didn't want it.
My wife left me, only two years into our marriage. She was still in her twenties, and had her life ahead of her. I was in my fifties and felt like, in many ways, my life was pretty much over. I did have quite a bit of savings. And in the years that followed until my retirement, I grew out those savings more. I have some land of my own, a house of my own, and quite a bit of disposable income.
Am I the happiest man in the world? Not at all. Am I the saddest? Not at all. I'm just... me. I am sixty-four years old. I am retired. I am in excellent health. I stand 5'11" and weigh 180 pounds without an ounce of excess flesh. I have a full head of hair and beard, all of it grey. I've been told I look handsome for my age, and I keep fit. I think I look better now than I did ten years ago or even twenty years ago. Almost with each passing day, I realise the power of freedom more. And in some ways, appreciate it more too.
People told me, even here on Reddit, that I should stay away from this sub. That it was a toxic place. I believed them. But I started reading, and researching, and I realise that MGTOW is a philosophy that describes the sort of life I live and the sort of lifestyle I have quite well. A lot of it fits me to a T.
At this point in time... I know for a fact that I will never marry again. I will never enter any serious, long term relationships anymore either. But I will continue to hike, travel, climb and see the world around me. I will keep fit. Perhaps there will be women, girls, on my path at some point. I wouldn't mind a woman's soft touch. But I know how that touch can be deceitful. How that touch may be soft but underneath their skin is a core as hard as steel and as cold as ice. How a lot of the softness, the gentleness, is simply calculated to get something out of me. I am too old to be fooled. To awake to be lulled to sleep. And what remains of my life, time and the money made from a lifetime of hard work is too precious for me to share it with anyone else.
The only thing I regret right now is not having a son, grandson or just any young man to take under my wings, teach about the things I have learned, share experiences with and help out. And maybe leave my stuff to, to care for when I'm gone. That would have been sweet. Maybe I'll run into such a young soul one day. Maybe not. Either way, I'm alive. I'm a man. And I'm going my own way.
[–]Ms_TillyRuthless Strategist171 points172 points173 points (5 children) | Copy Link
Good lord. Does he not even see how stupid he is? A young woman actually wanted his child and he wouldn't even go to a doctor. She was willing to settle for a sperm donor, but OH NO he couldn't raise a stranger's child even though he literally said he was open to adoption. These hypocrites. Lost his marriage because he only cared about himself. LUCKY HER! Glad they are MGTOW. We don't want them and the universe doesn't want their offspring.
[–][deleted] 76 points77 points78 points (0 children) | Copy Link
Exactly my thoughts! What did this old man figure was going to happen when he married a fucking 20 year old? But here we go again with the whole "women are shallow, she didn't love me for me," trope. He even admits he had a large savings account while simultaneously turning down fertility treatments because they're too expensive. Again, what the fuck does this old scrote think he had to offer a 20 year old? Nothing to offer but the audacity, lol
[–]luna_kumaFDS Apprentice27 points28 points29 points (0 children) | Copy Link
Stupid and delusional. Biggest regret is not instilling his knolwedge onto a young man? For what? So he can also end up old, bitter, and alone?
[–]take1990FDS Apprentice18 points19 points20 points (0 children) | Copy Link
Always easier to blame women for all their problems. Seems like some of these men have no capacity for self-reflection.
[–]CyanCayenneFDS Newbie10 points11 points12 points (0 children) | Copy Link
Yes, it's very contradictory! He lost is wife because he didn't want kids with her, and then at the end of his life his biggest regret is not having (male) kids?
[–]siberiansummerFDS Disciple6 points7 points8 points (0 children) | Copy Link
“I wish I had a son or grandson to give my stuff to”!!But he wouldn’t undergo procedures. “I hope I meet a young soul that I can give my stuff to”. But won’t raise another mans child. Even though wanted to adopt. And it’s so terrible all these money hungry thots are after his wealth!! It makes much more sense to give your shit away to a stranger before you kick the bucket. Notorious male logic at its best
[–]TheMarbleSlabRuthless Strategist[S] 148 points149 points150 points (6 children) | Copy Link
He called her “calculating” because she wanted to have children and escape poverty in a third world country 😂. HE COULD HAVE GONE FOR AN OLD WOMAN WHO WAS HIS EQUAL AND LOVED HIM FOR WHO HE WAS BUT HE HAS TO INSIST ON GETTING A YOUNG ASIAN GIRL
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[–]hoIds_up_sporkFDS Disciple68 points69 points70 points (2 children) | Copy Link
Every creepy old fuck preying on 20 something woman always thinks that they actually like him for his looks/personality. Of course your 20 year old wife is "scheming"!! Why else would she put up with his wrinkly balls and erectile dysfunction? The ONLY thing 40+ men have to offer young women is their wallets or citizenship. A 25 year old guy looks better, fucks better, he'll actually live to see the kids graduate high school, he's young enough to coach the kids during sports, and a lot of the time they even have better jobs than these geezers.
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[–]YgirlYBFDS Newbie20 points21 points22 points (0 children) | Copy Link
Right? That whole sub has a combined IQ of 90.
[–]rerererereeeesFDS Newbie6 points7 points8 points (0 children) | Copy Link
What a fucking loser. L M A O
[–]NoThisIs-PatrickFDS STRATEGY COACH129 points130 points131 points (7 children) | Copy Link
Wow. Imagine being in your sixties and still this delusional.
Also, this line is gross:
But also also, I thought you were going your own way. Leave girls alone you dirty old man.
[–]FitncurlyFDS Newbie78 points79 points80 points (3 children) | Copy Link
Yea, when a man in his 60’s uses “girls” to refer to sexual prospects I wretch 🤢
[–]NoThisIs-PatrickFDS STRATEGY COACH56 points57 points58 points (2 children) | Copy Link
Not just that - he says women and girls. WTF?!
[–]FitncurlyFDS Newbie50 points51 points52 points (0 children) | Copy Link
Yea, dude is a pedophile, good thing he’s been sent his own way, hopefully into the desert never to run across any young girls (CHILDREN)
[–]FDS_TranscriberRuthless Strategist7 points8 points9 points (0 children) | Copy Link
🤢
[–]NinauposkitzipxpePickmeisha™️18 points19 points20 points (1 child) | Copy Link
I actually shivered. Fucking lech.
[–]rerererereeeesFDS Newbie10 points11 points12 points (0 children) | Copy Link
I hope he drowns lmao
[–]siberiansummerFDS Disciple4 points5 points6 points (0 children) | Copy Link
Yeah, when I was a girl (teens through 20s) I wished nothing more than an old scrote casually using my body while being “aware of my nature”. Probably have to suck him off for like an hour to get his old wiener semi-hard 🤢🤮 What in actual fuq!!
[–]SslimReaperrFDS Newbie99 points100 points101 points (2 children) | Copy Link
Love the racism & sexism in the comments.
LMAO these incels really convinced themselves they “chose” MGTOW 🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡
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Hahaha
[–]silvernikkiFDS Newbie88 points89 points90 points (1 child) | Copy Link
Married:
Divorced:
[–]FitncurlyFDS Newbie25 points26 points27 points (0 children) | Copy Link
😂
[–]KitKat1705FDS Newbie67 points68 points69 points (3 children) | Copy Link
That man is insane? Does he think of himself as some descent of the British royal family?!!! The fuck. Your genes aren't that great pipe down. He must have thought so too because he wouldnt even go through the fertility treatment. And cudos to that 20's woman for sleeping with a 50's something man who she probably disliked. It's a job in itself.
[–]bloompthFDS Newbie17 points18 points19 points (0 children) | Copy Link
For what it’s worth, the royal family has some grotesque genes lol. He’s more like Royals-before-Diana
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[–]modernmedusaaRuthless Strategist2 points3 points4 points (0 children) | Copy Link
I've seen quite a few middle aged men with thai brides of late and I just internally LAUGH/barf at them
They failed at a primitive level so hard, they had to fly across half the globe just to buy a more vulnerable woman in poverty to marry them (so she could escape poverty)
what a pathetic FAIL-imagine how repulsive of a personality you have to have to sink to that
[–]quasarbarFDS Newbie56 points57 points58 points (2 children) | Copy Link
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YES! They have some really strange thinking when it comes to their “cuck” phobias.
“Adoption is fine, but no other man’s sperm can be used in fertility treatments. What do you think I am? A beta cuck?!”
Did you read about why he would t do fertility testing? He couldn’t even use proper terminology for his reproductive organs. Afraid the doctor touching and prodding him would make him gay. Ridiculous.
Out of his damn mind.
[–]quasarbarFDS Newbie33 points34 points35 points (0 children) | Copy Link
It's almost like if he can't have a bio child, then she can't either. Which is ridiculously petty, and yeah, that part about the fertility testing was just insane.
And then he wraps up his little rant by wishing he had a son or grandson. Well, buddy, you could have. (Or maybe daughters and granddaughters -- wouldn't that be tragic?!)
[–]SaddleUpBucephalusFDS Newbie39 points40 points41 points (0 children) | Copy Link
What an absolute loser. It's perfectly fine for people to choose to be childfree, or to adopt, but this old man is so fucking entitled. If he wants love he could date someone age appropriate, without that power imbalance of buying an overseas wife. Women past childbearing years aren't this fucking entitled. We just end up adopting animals or volunteering our time to the community. He needs to get over himself!
[–]me-but-betterFDS Newbie35 points36 points37 points (2 children) | Copy Link
“Other people told me this subreddit is toxic, but it fits me to a T” conclusion: those people were wrong 🤦♀️
Maybe just maybe they were right and you are just toxic too
[–]_HEDONISM_BOTFDS STRATEGY COACH21 points22 points23 points (1 child) | Copy Link
Or that subreddit is 100% correct in that this is what MGTOW can expect at 64. To still be chasing 20 something women who aren't attracted to them, and to be reminded of the brutal reality of the declining male fertility after a certain age. No matter how much they believe in the superstition of the "forever fertile male", biology will not yield to their beliefs like society does, and they will become involuntarily childless.
I want them to become involuntarily childless! Their genes need to be thrown out of the gene pool and they're doing a FINE job of throwing themselves out. I love it when the trash hurls itself out, enthusiastically!
[–]siberiansummerFDS Disciple4 points5 points6 points (0 children) | Copy Link
They say we are useless after 30 but they get better with age. And this man is clearly a prime example lmao
[–]alt-gingFDS Newbie38 points39 points40 points (0 children) | Copy Link
I wasn't going to say it, but I'm gonna say it...
Do men really not realize that modern day pregnancy for women IS constantly being poked, prodded, examined, exposed, etc. multiple times in the 9 month span they carry a child EVEN when they are having a totally healthy/normal pregnancy? You literally have all kinds of doctors looking and touch on, in, around your vagina, especially during the actual birth. This guy can't even be bothered to have his "beanbag" touched for fertility treatments because it was too embarrassing for him? I'm all for adoption and other alternatives, so I am not saying that I totally agree that she was in the right by telling him a biological offspring was the only acceptable choice, but still...the male logic somehow confounds me time and time again.
I realize I honed in on one part of the story here, but that part really riled me up.
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He tells his wife he wants to adopt. She asks why can’t she use a sperm bank and he loses his damn mind?! Ha. Ha ha. Then all of a sudden he’s not “raising someone else’s kid.” What a mental midget. Was the child he was going to adopt going to... not be someone else’s kid according to his thinking?
Yikes! They are really something else when it comes to their weird sperm-“cuck” phobias.
[–]shellshocked8FDS Newbie32 points33 points34 points (3 children) | Copy Link
These men are so hilarious and fucking delusional! Note to all male lurkers....women in their 20's don't want your old crusty ass...shit women in their 40's and 50's don't even want your dried up shriveled penis. The ONLY reason any woman would entertain you is for your MONEY...that's it and that's all! If you think you have anything to offer other than your wallet than you are a delusional fucking imbecile. You hope to come across some "girls" and have that "soft touch" again??? LMAO!!! Why don't you try someone your own fucking age you piece of shit! But no, they can't have their porn fantasy so they'd rather just die alone wanking off their limp dicks instead of finding someone their own age that would actually love them for them. Sorry delusional dumbass, young women do not and NEVER have been attracted to old men and if they SAY they are they are attracted to your money, not YOU. Wake the fuck up, and PLEASE for the love of GOD go your own way and don't come back.
[–]_HEDONISM_BOTFDS STRATEGY COACH20 points21 points22 points (1 child) | Copy Link
"mEn dOn'T hAvE a wALL!!!!"
~ Lying ass men who hit the wall at 90 mph and have been facesmashed by it.
[–]BlueBlackRedPFDS Newbie8 points9 points10 points (0 children) | Copy Link
I've always thought that's one of the funniest lies they tell themselves. That men age gracefully. Become that silver fox.
Men over 45 are 98% ugly AF, and that 2% exception isn't on MGTOW or RP.
Look like wrinkled paper bags that never took care of their skin a day in their lives.
[–]siberiansummerFDS Disciple2 points3 points4 points (0 children) | Copy Link
Yeah!! And he doesn’t mind giving his shit to a stranger but oH FuQ nO, aS LoNg as iT’s nOt sOmE mOneY hUnGry ThOt 🤦♀️ After claiming he wants some pussy 🤦♀️ Stupid old scrote
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[–]_HEDONISM_BOTFDS STRATEGY COACH11 points12 points13 points (4 children) | Copy Link
Isn't it wonderful? He's childless and he essentially threw his own genes out of the gene pool.
The trash took itself out!
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[–]modernmedusaaRuthless Strategist4 points5 points6 points (2 children) | Copy Link
Tbh since a lot of women end up single mothers to LVM like this anyway, we may as well go to the sperm bank, get some healthy chad genes, live in a loving community of women where we support eachothers WOMEN owned businesses and let the trash fall into a pit of misery on MGTOW- leave them to their 'sex dolls' or whatever they rely on
That's my ideal Utopia tbh
Why on earth are we passing on the genes of uglier or older LVM men who can't even treat us with respect? Women need to become more tactical- cos these men are always getting their cake whether we play nice or not. They're always getting a leg up the food chain & trying to drag us down it
[–]_HEDONISM_BOTFDS STRATEGY COACH0 points1 point2 points (0 children) | Copy Link
IMHO as Artificial Intelligence becomes more sophisticated and cheaper, there will be a day where the sex dolls will want nothing to do with them too 🙄
[–]_HEDONISM_BOTFDS STRATEGY COACH21 points22 points23 points (1 child) | Copy Link
I thought "mEn'S fErTiLiTy nEvEr dEcLiNeD". Aren't MGTOWS the MAIN ONES who froth at the mouth and INSIST that "mEn dOn'T hAvE a WaLL"? Well well, WELL. Lookie what we have here. A 64 year old man who's infertile and can't knock up a young, fertile woman, who wants nothing more to do with his geezer weiner??
Color me shocked, and call an ambulance! I have over-gasped myself today
The ONLY redeeming thing about his post is that he's childless and hopefully he'll take his toxic, pathetic genes out of the gene pool with him when he keels over from bitterness and pornsickness and finally bites the dust.
We must collectively thank the women who have refused to give this man's seed a genetic ride to the next generation. THANK YOU, LADIES, FOR SPARING FUTURE GENERATIONS OF WOMEN FROM HIS SICKLY, WORTHLESS GENES! HUMANITY owes you a debt!
Ashes to Ashes, rust to rust.
[–]Aurore11FDS Apprentice8 points9 points10 points (0 children) | Copy Link
He was 50 when he married her and they were married for like 2 years... which sheds an even worse light on the supposed eternal fertility of men. Women can still get pregnant til their late thirties and some even in their early 40ies. If all men supposedly have sooooo much more time, shouldn't they be able to impregnate a woman fairly easily in their early 50ies?
And this is not even fully sarcastic, I'd honestly expect many 50 year old men to still be fertile - the window is closing quickly but it should still be there.
[–]ItsFreezenFDS Newbie20 points21 points22 points (3 children) | Copy Link
He deserves to be alone. Enjoy your misery old man. You earned it.
[–]_HEDONISM_BOTFDS STRATEGY COACH18 points19 points20 points (2 children) | Copy Link
Cheers to his misery!
I sincerely hope ALL MGTOWs end up in their 60s and childless so our gene pool can be rid of whatever toxic combination of traits led to their unfortunate birth and subsequent existence.
Once again, the trash takes itself out. This time out of the gene pool.
[–]FDS_TranscriberRuthless Strategist3 points4 points5 points (0 children) | Copy Link
This 👍🏻
[–]modernmedusaaRuthless Strategist1 point2 points3 points (0 children) | Copy Link
lmao, I love you
[–]BabyGothQFDS Newbie14 points15 points16 points (0 children) | Copy Link
Fucking GROSS.
[–]PlatyupsCommitteeFDS Disciple29 points30 points31 points (1 child) | Copy Link
I think the part that caused the biggest eyeroll for me was actually how he acted like any modern medical care that gets near his balls would be the height of human indignity and suffering. Jesus Christ.
Like ALL modern medical care? Really? Would he refuse to be "poked and prodded like an animal" if he had mysterious gallbladder pain? I doubt it. Lmao.
Yeah, because women never have THEIR reproductive systems scrutinized by doctors, so THEY don't know what they're asking for when they want a dude to let a doctor examine the function of his balls. And doctors would totally just be laughing about that one guy's balls - it's not like they've seen countless testicles in their career and won't give one flying fuck about OP's.
OP's ex-wife is just lucky he was so resistant to simple medical procedures and examinations. She might have stayed with him if he'd tried to meet her halfway.
[–]MelatoninNightmaresFDS Apprentice5 points6 points7 points (0 children) | Copy Link
Yeah, it's not like the entire process of pregnancy and delivery involves random people and instruments wrist-deep in your cooch every couple of weeks or anything!
And that's just the medical professionals! It's definitely not like absolute strangers just love to grope on pregnant bellies.
But no, he couldn't possibly suffer the indignity of a standard medical examination! Hey... maybe he's not getting checked regularly for testicular or prostate cancer, either. Fingers crossed!
[–]SewudFDS Apprentice13 points14 points15 points (0 children) | Copy Link
He could adopt, but not adopt the child produced from his wife + a sperm donor?
[–]TheMarbleSlabRuthless Strategist[S] 11 points12 points13 points (3 children) | Copy Link
These boomer men think having all their hair somehow makes them handsome.
[–]MelatoninNightmaresFDS Apprentice7 points8 points9 points (2 children) | Copy Link
"I'm not fat or bald!"
Neither are most of his unfortunate mail-order bride's peers. And I bet they have functional dicks.
[–]TheMarbleSlabRuthless Strategist[S] 8 points9 points10 points (1 child) | Copy Link
Then they wonder why the women are unhappy when they come here and realize that the old dudes they are with aren’t rich. 🙄 Sherlock Holmes you could have been with an old lady but you had to be hypergamous and demand a young one.
[–]FDS_TranscriberRuthless Strategist7 points8 points9 points (0 children) | Copy Link
I hope these younger women get their citizenships and leave these scrotes ASAP.
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Holy shit this is gold.
"The only thing I regret is not having a son or grandson....'
Like a young 20 something was literally begging you to give her children but you irrationally refused and are pissed you're going to die alone?? Lmao.
Also notice he says "son or grandson" Men like that simply don't want daughters and do not respect them when they have them.
It warms my heart knowing he will die alone with no offspring.
[–]FDS_TranscriberRuthless Strategist9 points10 points11 points (0 children) | Copy Link
I hope she got her green card from this scrote 😂
[–]imsquirtinhereFDS Newbie7 points8 points9 points (0 children) | Copy Link
Stupid man has the opportunity to have his precious son to carry on his worthless name and refuses because he doesn't want his balls touched, despite pregnancy being such an extensive, selfless process she was willing to undergo for him. This is the end of a utterly pointless line of very utterly pointless men.
[–]hilariouslystatedFDS Newbie6 points7 points8 points (1 child) | Copy Link
She realized she didn't want to be with some little dick, wrinkly dick loser and left.
[–]FDS_TranscriberRuthless Strategist3 points4 points5 points (0 children) | Copy Link
Good for her.
[–]level_up_alwaysFDS Disciple5 points6 points7 points (0 children) | Copy Link
I'm shocked I tell you! Shocked!
[–]cerabella1FDS Newbie5 points6 points7 points (0 children) | Copy Link
you already have a foot in the grave, good luck finding a women or girl (ewww) who genuinely interested in an mid sixties incel
[–]randomgirlimokFDS Newbie6 points7 points8 points (1 child) | Copy Link
She wanted an anchor baby, then she would divorce him, stay in the USA legally, AND get child support and then be able to find a younger better guy.
Like any 20-something from a third world country is going to want to be with some old guy unless a green card and money is involved. They know that, right? No, they think they’re still hot shit
[–]CyanCayenneFDS Newbie6 points7 points8 points (0 children) | Copy Link
What?? No!! The women there are just more feminine and submissive and love an older man to clean up after! /s
[–]drragonbonesFDS Newbie4 points5 points6 points (0 children) | Copy Link
So glad this loser was infertile. There is some justice in the world.
[–]ontherailstodayFDS Newbie5 points6 points7 points (2 children) | Copy Link
> I refused to be poked and prodded like an animal by doctors and have my beanbag examined in medical facilities.
Cry me a river.
[–]TheMarbleSlabRuthless Strategist[S] 5 points6 points7 points (1 child) | Copy Link
And she had been poked and prodded by a soggy old dude who was willing to adopt a strangers child but against her carrying her own child and adopting it.
[–]curiecat2 points3 points4 points (0 children) | Copy Link
this dude is absolute looney tunes
[–]sweetlittleflowerFDS Newbie2 points3 points4 points (0 children) | Copy Link
Wtf?????
[–]modernmedusaaRuthless Strategist2 points3 points4 points (0 children) | Copy Link
wowww- the lifespan of a MGTOW
Aspiration
The sooner people realise not all men were supposed to make it....the better