Domestic Violence

63daddy · 2022-06-16T18:11:54+00:00

Amazing how feminist claims and actual fact are often polar opposites.

It’s an example of why we should never just accept a premise a feminist uses in an argument.

Qualanqui · 2022-06-16T19:35:39+00:00

My country has a longitudinal study going since the '70s and they decided in the early 00s to try studying IPV until they learnt that women are far more often the aggressors, at which point the study was quickly swept under the carpet and nothing was heard about it ever again.

Here's the abstract of that study:

A couples analysis of partner abuse with implications for abuse prevention | 2001 Moffitt, T.E., Robins, R.W., Caspi, A.

This research used a couples analysis to test five models of partner abuse: (1) perpetrators' characteristics predict their abusive behavior, (2) victims' characteristics predict their victimization, (3) a dyadic process model in which both partners' characteristics independently and jointly predict couples' reciprocal abuse, (4) a traditional model in which men's characteristics alone predict both men's abuse and women's defensive reactions to it, and (5) an interactive model in which one partner's characteristics can moderate the other partner's abuse risk. We studied a representative sample of 360 young-adult couples comprising non-abusive couples, non-clinical abusive couples, and clinical abusive couples. As outcomes, we used measures of abuse perpetration, and as predictors we used partners' scores on negative emotionality, an indicator of violence-prone cognitions and emotions. Results were consistent with models 1, 2, and 3 for both males and females, but not with models 4 or 5. Findings applied to both non-clinical and clinical abusive couples. This study is the first to identify clinical abusive couples without selection bias (9% of the sample, having injury and/or official agency intervention), and to find that in such couples both sexes engage in abuse. Implications for primary prevention are that prevention programs should aim to: (a) target violence-prone cognitions and emotions, (b) reduce abusive behavior by both sexes, and (c) promote victim safety among both sexes. Implications for rehabilitation of already-abusive couples are: (d) treating only men will not reduce risk completely for most couples, and (e) more resources should be invested in researching couples treatments to reduce abuse. If replicated, the findings would suggest the need for policy that encourages development and evaluation of programs to reduce physical abuse by women.

thinkdeep · 2022-06-16T18:32:18+00:00

I can't attest to the accuracy or sources of this information, but my old neighbors was a lesbian couple that would beat the absolute shit out of each other. Like rolling around on their patio fighting once a week. I can't imagine what happened inside their house.

NEUTRALHUMAN17 · 2022-06-16T19:00:35+00:00

Well r/nothowgirlswork and r/twoxchromosomes 's feminists think otherwise.

I bet you get banned for posting it there

They'll defo say some BS reasoning for this.LOL

SecondEldenLord · 2022-06-16T19:44:37+00:00

Even with solid facts and evidence, feminists will clsoe their eyes and ears to these facts cause they do not want to hear the truth, they love their power and control too much.

McFeely_Smackup · 2022-06-16T20:48:45+00:00

Everytime this issue comes up, I will always point out that Lesbian relationships have the highest incidents of domestic violence, and gay men the lowest.

Domestic violence rates track exactly relative with how many women are in the relationship.

SwamiSweatSocks · 2022-06-16T18:42:56+00:00

Domestic Violence is heavily abused in the courts by women to gain a financial advantage in court proceedings.

Huotou · 2022-06-16T21:44:36+00:00

man: she raped me. abused me. cheated on me. stole money from me.

woman: he hit me

society will focus more on the fact the a woman is hit by the man.

-_-

Potato-with-guns · 2022-06-16T18:58:30+00:00

You shouldn’t have rounded up on the pie charts, there are over 300,000 DV shelters for women in the US and 1 for men

2022-06-16T22:53:00+00:00

No gender, no age, no status, no job, no family role, no nothing is guaranteed insurance against abuse. Every single living being is vulnerable. This is why empathy shouldn't discriminate.

crippledhermit · 2022-06-17T02:34:46+00:00

The last time I lived with a woman, she physically assaulted me on 3 occasions and climbed on top of me when I was so exhausted I couldn't move and tried to rape me. Shockingly, utter exhaustion meant I was unable to do much. Considering I could not stand or keep my eyes open it the time it should have been a major clue.

2022-06-16T22:27:58+00:00

These are always really good but very depressing. It really is like society hates us sometimes

BuzzOff2011 · 2022-06-17T03:09:36+00:00

God if twitter saw this there would be a national crisis that news channels would cover about how men are the "real monsters" and the stats are wrong

my3sgte · 2022-06-17T04:00:58+00:00

Yeah very biased. The county I lived in said they’ve never arrested a female for domestic abuse

reeefghuin · 2022-06-16T21:32:26+00:00

instead of actually accepting the facts, feminists just use their favorite go to argument

"iTs dOnE By OtHeR MEn!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!"

Crazy_Money_5874 · 2022-06-17T06:07:17+00:00

It's no more ok for a woman to hit a man than a man to hit a woman.

The_Heeter1 · 2022-06-16T18:24:54+00:00

Cross post this to 2x and see how long it takes to get banned

Placemakers_Evansbay · 2022-06-16T22:42:28+00:00

Imma need the sources for this before I use this. This is very spicy content

Castle_Magic · 2022-06-16T23:10:30+00:00

Just curious but for the domestic violence what is the source on that? Not saying I don’t believe it but just curious

syedalired21 · 2022-06-17T08:42:06+00:00

But but.. Patriarchy.. and and.. PATRIARCHY.... I AM OFFENDED. !!!!!!!!!!

Doot-Dootoof · 2022-06-17T08:52:31+00:00

Feminism used to be equality, now its just taking over mens rights. Misandrism, isnt always started by misogyny. Its always “man up, stop crying, you should’ve enjoyed it”, for a man but for a girl it’s “awww kill all men baby, queen that man should die”. It’s never, “all women are rapists,” but always “all men are rapists”. A woman can date a younger boy and be called a cougar, nothing bad but if a male dates a woman a bit younger he’s looked upon weirdly, and called a pedophile. A woman is held innocent until proven guilty, and a man is guilty until proven innocent. A woman can hit a man, all good but the moment a man puts his hands on her he is looked upon badly, the other day in school, this girl started slapping the boy because he “looked ugly” the boy pushed her, and the ‘boys’ came out lashing at him and who got in trouble? The boy who defended himself, my final words are and I’ll always say it until they change, “fuck equality, fuck life, and fuck earth.”

C20H25N3O-C21H30O2 · 2022-06-17T09:15:47+00:00

Imagine posting this on some feminist subs....

No-Difficulty1842 · 2022-06-17T09:52:16+00:00

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RoubandoMerdina · 2022-06-17T11:34:52+00:00

Can someone make a new account, get to these same sources and post on feminist sub-reddits these sources, accusing them of lying and gaslighting?

Make it about them and about how even this data is misogynistic and racist. I'm pretty sure you will get up-voted and praised even though you show no basis or proof of it being false data.

Algorithmbuilt · 2022-06-17T11:54:14+00:00

Feminists aren’t gonna like this one

RictusReaver · 2022-06-17T12:37:56+00:00

You have my genuine gratitude for introducing me to this page

risingSon1212 · 2022-06-17T10:48:29+00:00

There have been many instances where during IPV even if the man is bruised cops wont do anything but if a woman alleges she has been hit that man is arrested, in my country there are many instances if a woman wants to take revenge on his husband they put in false DV case with many other cases & multiple cases in different cities and different jurisdictions just out of spite but there is no such thing with males.

As for rape in my country as well as many other countries rape is defined mostly as penetration act is done then there is rape which in turn means a female is not considered a rapist, there have been many cases where a minor was abused by an older age female but she was not a rapist due to this logic but rather that minor was prosecuted.

these kinds of one sided definitions should also be taken into account when seeing national statistics.

No-Satisfaction-2320 · 2022-06-17T08:36:07+00:00

According to the post, more women suffer from DV during their lifetime, but only by a little bit. 51.5% women to 48.5% men. We should help all victims of DV though, not just women.

novadesi · 2022-06-17T12:02:37+00:00

We've still not been able to get the world rid of the women make 77c to the dollar that men make misinformation despite so much of data I wonder how one solves this.

Man_of_culture_112 · 2022-06-17T17:00:24+00:00

FIRE!!!!!!!!!!!

EldritchGrapefruit · 2022-06-17T19:37:46+00:00

second to last slide, BOOOOOOOOO we need some equality too ;(

Bill-Ender-Belichick · 2022-06-17T00:50:29+00:00

Sources? For reference.

JPByrne100 · 2022-06-17T10:28:19+00:00

Based

jaajaaone · 2022-06-16T19:27:15+00:00

Test comment

DepressedDandylion · 2022-06-17T15:54:54+00:00

I agree with this collectively, but every source I've seen points to women being victims of domestic violence more often

DepressedDandylion · 2022-06-17T15:55:07+00:00

I agree with this collectively, but every source I've seen points to women being victims of domestic violence more often

DepressedDandylion · 2022-06-17T16:01:52+00:00

Do you have proof that men are abused more than women?

cjgager · 2022-06-17T14:05:47+00:00

ANY violence is deplorable - but you are slightly hand-picking the stats since overall women still get "abused" more rather than less.
& if you want more help from the government, social services, awareness, etc. - then tell someone - women certainly had to fight to get even acknowledged that there was a problem. if you think men deserve more services then - go to your representative - get some funding going - do something about it then!

No-Difficulty1842 · 2022-06-17T07:40:56+00:00

If I'm reading correctly, women still suffer more total instances of abuse when you factor in rape? So like, what's your point? Rather be hit over raped....

Any-Bluebird-678 · 2022-06-17T03:06:25+00:00

With the numbers of sexual assault, severe violence, and stalking so much higher for women... It seems inappropriate to focus on the one area in which men have higher stats. If my life were that fraught for risk of being sexually assaulted, suffering from SEVERE violence, and being stalked... I would feel pretty twitchy too.

Also transitional housing is typically only available to individuals with children. And when men try for full custody in court, men win more often than women. It's just that typically men don't want full custody. The transitional housing statistic doesn't pass a test of statistical validity unfortunately. What it's actually measuring is transitional housing granted to parents with minor children.

MattDaLion · 2022-06-17T01:01:55+00:00

We as men should not stand for equality. Men lead, women follow, or we will have human sacrifice again.

Bossbong · 2022-06-17T03:13:02+00:00

These citations are so old they'd be thrown out of a minor debate.

Title	Domestic Violence
Author	Automatic-Shelter387
Upvotes	1321
Comments	224
Date	June 16, 2022 4:56 PM UTC (4 years ago)
Subreddit	Posted in /r/MensRights
Original Link	https://old.reddit.com/r/MensRights/comments/vdqjge/domestic_violence/
Archive Link	https://theredarchive.com/r/MensRights/domestic-violence.1209567 https://theredarchive.com/post/1209567

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