Feminism has completely destroyed relationships how do we fix it?

L1me1nthec0c0nut · 2024-04-19T11:42:56+00:00

Never, ever date a feminist.
See rule number 1.

The problem is the blatant misandry. You are dating someone who hates you. What’s the point?

Street_Conflict_9008 · 2024-04-19T11:41:28+00:00

If there is no trust, there is no relationship! If there is no respect, there is no relationship!

Set boundaries, and stick to them!

psychosythe · 2024-04-19T14:40:46+00:00

Homie I do not give a fuck if she's feminist, Marxist, white nationalist, Buddhist or whatever combination of adjectives.

That is abusive behavior.

It's a method of partner control, constantly enforce guilt and keep them constantly reacting to you. Either by constantly holding a few passed things over your head or by inventing new ones on the spot.

Radicalism is wayyyyyy more about personality type than ideology, and so is abusive behavior.

InvasiveSpecies1738 · 2024-04-19T12:34:27+00:00

“I don’t trust you, and I don’t trust men” - k, byyyee

DegeneratesInc · 2024-04-19T15:15:30+00:00

Don't date feminists. They are malignant narcissists. (I'm a woman, btw.)

zoxzoxzo · 2024-04-19T12:15:26+00:00

Use common sense and don't date someone who hates you or looks down upon you

Billmacia · 2024-04-19T15:06:19+00:00

Agree, In college I had a Crush on a girl, but she was super into the feminist movement. And each Time she was talking about men, it's was always with a lens that men are predator and shouldnt be trusted. She was telling me, she will never want kids (ever less a daughter), because she would always fear that she would get attack/rape/etc by men. In the end, I wasnt interested in her anymore, she show me that she would never trust a man. Feminism is really a love Killer.

ForTheRobot · 2024-04-19T14:43:13+00:00

feminism actively brainwashes women to hate men, especially if they are in a relationship or married, or if they have kids with someone. They will be brainwashed to believe they are trapped and patriarchy etc etc.

They are literally brainwashed to actively fight agaisnt men.

Dont date feminist, don't entertain their ideas.

HelpfulViolinist3562 · 2024-04-19T13:34:30+00:00

If she can't trust you then she doesn't love you, it's as simple as that.

Nihilistic_Mermaid · 2024-04-19T12:12:07+00:00

There is no solution.

Feminist or not, man or woman, if your partner doesn't trust you, your relationship is a hallow one. The only thing you can do is end it and look for someone better.

What you described here is a toxic partner, insecure and jealous. It's even a bit hard to say if her way of acting was due to feminism or due to her being jealous or both. But there is no point in staying in a toxic relationship trying to fix a toxic partner.

anothermanwithaplan · 2024-04-19T15:31:39+00:00

The ‘man-hating’ feminists are a write-off, don’t even bother engaging, as soon as you notice it, abandon ship.

The ‘women are better than men’ feminists are hard work.

The ‘confused but following other women feminists’ aren’t so bad, they usually get wrapped up with indoctrination that they don’t necessarily agree with but do the whole blindly sticking together thing.

Back when I was still dating, I ended up on a date with a feminist that hid it really well, we had about a week of chit chat before we went out, absolutely great chat, good fun, humour, relatable all that, no indication of anything odd or weird at that time. We meet for drinks, seated at table, pleasant small talk for a minute or so, drinks ordered, bit more small talk warming up, drinks arrive. “Cheers, so how was your day…?” Is met with a long becrazed look before words started, she starts with something that happened at the beginning of the year, a colleague got a raise and she didn’t, colleague was also female not sure of any other conditions, and this escalated over the next hour into a non-stop rant, she didn’t stop for anything other than a quick sip, after the first few times of attempting to participate in the conversation she continued to talk over me waving me down. Why did I stay for an hour do you ask? Well I wasn’t expecting the sharp left turn this took and I ordered a bottle. So we get through the bottle, she’s ranting and raving about how women have it like this and like that and nothings fair and everything’s difficult, it’s easy for men and equality is the answer to everything blah blah blah. The bottle runs out finally, she ramps down possibly expecting another order but I tapered the date off there. After over an hour of listening to this I was genuinely unsure what to do. I said to her look I hear your principals and morals, I don’t want to offend you, usually I’d take care of the bill but would you rather we split it? She gives me a smile, a psychotic one, so I thought fuck it we’re splitting it I had to sit through all of this nonsense. We split it, she didn’t make a fuss or anything. Outside she gave me a big sloppy kiss which I wasn’t expecting and I walked her to the train station. Next day I get a message from her about two screens long about how she wasn’t expecting to have to pay for anything and how it was wrong for me to split the bill on a date and what a terrible person I am to let a women pay, didn’t I hear anything she said? - I’m pretty sure she made more than me at that stage she was quite senior in her company. My wife loves this story, she says I should have left her with the whole bill.

Expose_Ur_BS · 2024-04-19T13:12:08+00:00

“As a strong, driven, feminist; I demand a man pay for my clothing, shoes and meals, it’s only fair! We don’t want to spend our own money, why else would I be dating you?!?”

Miss Independent.

woodquest · 2024-04-19T11:47:49+00:00

I don't believe most women are hardcore feminist militant.
I mean many will probably still adopt some of the postures, when faced to peer pressure, and why would they be opposed at something that is supposedly to help them, but aren't that involved.

I'd say be picky, perhaps choose somebody with more traditional values and avoid the ultras.

Generally, they display heavy hints that they wear as badges of honor, so not really hard to spot early on, like she "hates" to cook, is overly bratty, agressive and questioning through men..., doesn't look like somebody sweet and caring....

Any doubt and she's disqualified

EEEGuba69 · 2024-04-19T13:17:02+00:00

She always assumes you are cheating or lying? Thats just a paranoid insecure woman at that point, no matter the ideology there needs to be a baseline of trust or else nothing will work

Latter-Champion551 · 2024-04-19T14:36:40+00:00

If you were black, would you date someone who openly says that they distrust black people? Even if they had a black person mistreat them in the past?

The answer is no, that person is a racist (the race equivalent of a feminist)

Felarhin · 2024-04-19T14:54:58+00:00

By leaving the country and finding new ones. The damage is done. Most of these women will never want to be suitable wives and mothers.

Extreme_Spread9636 · 2024-04-19T12:00:39+00:00

What sort of relationship dynamic are you exactly expecting? People are holding each other on a line until something better comes around.

FakingZy · 2024-04-19T15:01:55+00:00

Warning coloration is how animals let other animals know that they are poisonous or dangerous. It is the same with feminists, avoid purple hair or similar.

Fist_of_the_mad_gods · 2024-04-19T15:15:49+00:00

As others have said never ever date a feminist. They see you as the enemy that causes every single problem they have in life, why the hell would you subject yourself to that? Why would you invite somebody into your life who hates you?

Also it's not our responsibility to fix this, they're the ones who broke relationships, they're the ones who have to fix it. I refuse to expend any effort to try and repair the damage when all they're going to do is yell at me about how I'm such a toxic male for doing so. Women are on their own as far as I'm concerned.

Rothbardy · 2024-04-19T15:23:51+00:00

Can put the toothpaste back in the tube. Unfortunately, I don’t think anything will change this apart from a societal reset. Apart from the obvious large scale wars and economic meltdown or hyperinflation, Feminism is leading the world towards the breakdown of the family unit which could trigger it.

N2-Ainz · 2024-04-19T15:49:07+00:00

Start a new life in China/Asia [except India]. They value traditions

IamTheConstitution · 2024-04-19T13:22:15+00:00

Mgtow. Work on yourself and do things you enjoy. Be very picky about girls and totally ok being alone. Either the right girl will come around or not and that’s ok too.

cracksparove · 2024-04-19T13:05:30+00:00

Bring back, men only, spaces. Start men’s only gyms, men’s only rifle clubs..etc.

TKD1989 · 2024-04-19T13:46:25+00:00

Never date a feminist. I had a former friend who became one of those raging bra burning feminists who thought that all men and boys were potential rapists and that women should be allowed to be topless outside in public

Emotional-Rhubarb725 · 2024-04-19T13:27:26+00:00

when you are together you should both think about each other, not the big picture

nor you give her the weight of all bad women who treat men bad, nor she gives you the weight of bad men who treat men bad

xxTheMagicBulleT · 2024-04-19T14:45:04+00:00

We all have our baggage. But women would never find it ok to be attacked based on what a other women did right?

Why is it ok for women to do that to men?

We all responsible for or own feelings. And you can't just push a bad experience you had on every other person you meet in your life. But somehow that's acceptable. When women do it. And cause women do it and when they do it. They're not worth your time .

Your to busy with what of or what could happen. What makes most part of any inaction painful and pointless.

As long as women want to bitch and moan about things they them selfs do all the damn time why would people take them seriously ever.

There so many dubbel standards they enforce to benfits them alone. But as soon as it's the other way around... but but I'm the price you should do this that and that. But at the same time scream for equality.

You can't have equality and scream and moan when you get it. Cause there negative things to it.

And you also can't bitch and moan your progressive modern women and don't get any traditional outcomes.

That's the thing it's ok to have high standards even to the moon of you want that. But when you don't live by those same standards your demanding of people. Your a damn clown and you don't deserve any respect.

Cause if men say even half the thing women say those men would not get any respect and be laughed and made a mockery all day every day. So expect the same treatment back.

Cause be the person you want others to be for you. And they are getting that.

And no one is responsible for your own feelings but you. No one has to care your scared or trauma of something. Just like no one cares I got robbed and stabbed one time. Should a be afraid of every person cause I could get stabbed again randomly. Every person can stab me ow no. Ow no stay away from me you can stab me. If I walk true life like that. No one would take me seriously. Yet women can have a bad experience with a men and every men on the world is a piece off shit get real and you have to take people like that seriously. Fuck no. There raging hypocrites. That totally can't live on the standards they demanding of people in there life. So they get what they give nothing

And women that do live by the standards that they demand from others do deserve all the respect and love that they will get. Cause they live by example and don't just expect the world to be handed to them.

sickofretards · 2024-04-19T14:56:42+00:00

you dont, wake up to reality date people worth dating and dont date people not worth dating

nathanv70 · 2024-04-19T14:58:58+00:00

If all men avoided feminists, feminists wouldn't date or reproduce. The same goes for the flip side. The power of voluntary collective choice is crazy to think about. If women held all men to the standard of 'no sex unless you marry me', then men would achieve any standard in order to get married in order to have sex. This is what it used to be. Standards held by 85% or more of the population create cultural change.

HyakuBikki · 2024-04-19T15:05:26+00:00

You can't fix a problem that's been in the making for generations overnight. I firmly believe that it's a lost cause for our generation and a large chunk of us are going to die alone regardless.

Best we can do really is course correct for the next generation of young men and teach them to firmly reject feminism at all costs.

Jake0024 · 2024-04-19T15:12:34+00:00

Don't date people you don't want to date.

MrAnonPoster · 2024-04-19T15:40:19+00:00

Easy: we dont date feminists. How do we know? Well, in addition to the visual indicators of arm pit hair, perpetually triggered face, purple hair and roundness the feminists announce who they are every chance they get

Aros125 · 2024-04-19T17:31:15+00:00

They have an extreme distrust and dislike for men.

Tell her that if she's a lesbian it's not your fault.

mrkpxx · 2024-04-19T17:50:02+00:00

The best way to fix is: MGTOW

MGTOW, meaning "men going their own way", is a philosophy of life that is derived directly from the findings of the Red Pill. It is not a movement, for it is entirely up to you to draw the right lessons. It means a man should go his way and not be driven by the needs of others. In order to help others, he must first ensure that he is able to take care of himself.

The worst thing that can happen to a man is a divorce, which is initiated by women in 70 to 80% of cases. I therefore recommend that every man live from tier 2.

Tiers of MGTOW

1st Tier - Purple Pill Man

The Purple Pill is for men who have become aware of the Red Pill but have decided to mix the inconvenient truths with their earlier hopes.

It's the view that knowing the red pill is something you can deal with, or at least live with the risk of, if it doesn't just go away.

2nd Tier - enemy image of feminists

No marriage

No children

No pulling together

3rd Tier - protection against false accusations

Due to the omnipotence and sovereignty of interpretation in public space, dealing with women is reduced to a necessary minimum.

They maintain polite contact with women, but avoid private contacts.

still have sex

In professional life, the door to the office is open and the elevator is deserted when a woman comes in.

4th Tier - MGTOW Monk (Hermit)

The aim is to remain invisible to women.

They are convinced that there is no equality in contact between men and women.

They deny that men must always court women, which makes them vulnerable.

None of these men hate women.

Jealous-Friendship34 · 2024-04-19T18:34:13+00:00

Join a fundamentalist church. You’re more likely to find a tradwife there.

Proper_Frosting_6693 · 2024-04-19T12:22:12+00:00

Women shouldn’t date very misogynistic men!

Men shouldn’t date very misandrist women aka Feminists as they commonly refer to themselves!

Suspicious-Singer659 · 2024-04-19T13:16:53+00:00

"I was always assumed to be cheating, lying, or up to no good at all times no matter how much I tried to validate my partner"

This is abuse. You do not have to put up with it. A feminist woman cannot help but do these things because it's essential to their ideology.

If you can't find non feminist women to date then stay single. The greatest power is the power to walk away.

In the interest of balance I feel compelled to argue that Red Pill ideology is also contributing quite severely to the decline of gender relations in the west.

Eterna_Caelestia · 2024-04-19T13:38:48+00:00

Don't fix it. Let it rot.

wardenferry419 · 2024-04-19T13:11:53+00:00

We, as men, do nothing. Anything a man tries to fix will be met with suspicion.

fakehalo · 2024-04-19T14:01:45+00:00

Would you expect a normal woman to "fix" an incel? It's just the inverse to your situation. As obvious as it is, find a person that is not like this instead of trying to fix people you aren't compatible with.

kkkan2020 · 2024-04-19T14:21:45+00:00

the logical conclusion is you will need a whole group to literally die out and start with a clean slate. because you can only poison the well so much before it's undrinkable. what is kind of interesting is that the new generations aren't as zealous with feminism and if feminitsts don't reproduce their ideologie inevitably dies with them.

IceCorrect · 2024-04-19T11:55:28+00:00

Did you broke it? If women have problem with this then they need to fix it, beacuse they are the ones with power and tools. Start to treat them the same they treat you and you would see how funny it is when they get triggered by their own beliefs.

It's like joke that wife come with great idea to redecorate good working kitchen, but you must pay for it and probably do some work by yourself.

Enough-Staff-2976 · 2024-04-19T12:55:10+00:00

You are being abused. Leave before the accusations come. Leave before it gets worse. Don't be afraid to be alone. Work on yourself. Get better at being you. The better you get, the prettier woman you can get. The more money you earn. The more you can travel. Don't accept mediocrity in yourself. Her moist hole is not worth poor treatment. You can rent a hole that doesn't talk.

ButWhatOfGlen · 2024-04-19T14:25:44+00:00

We have to ignore them for a few years.

Women are extremely adaptable. They have adapted to the complete lack of boundaries that men used to enforce.

Can't blame them really. It's a hard pill to swallow but in my opinion, it's "men's" fault. Women complained of their "position" and treatment over decades. As generally reasonable creatures, we men said ok, have it your way, and stepped aside. They never looked back.

Things are now way out of balance. There's no stuffing the genie back in the bottle.

We have to remove all rewards from them until they realize they need us and want us. Then the bargaining begins.

Gonna be a long long time.

Desthr0 · 2024-04-19T15:53:44+00:00

It's not up to you to fix it.

They are broken, damaged people. They need help, but they can only help themselves. And until they let go, they'll never have a real genuine relationship that way.

Ready-Occasion2055 · 2024-04-19T16:13:37+00:00

The feminist agenda is to hate and destroy All men. It's ridiculous. Date a woman that is anti feminist. They are alot more fun and don't cry about everything.

ElliZSageAdvice · 2024-04-19T16:28:17+00:00

One feminist woman is not all feminist women. What traits might we see in a non-feminist woman? Women learn what men have taught them in many cases. It is possible your woman could not trust men. I am a raging feminist with a husband I trust with my life.

karn39393939 · 2024-04-19T17:04:20+00:00

Honestly the extreme version would be to quarantine those that share the ideology. Put them in a place for them to live their own lives how they see fit and not allow them to influence others. Like I said this is extreme. I don't think it's the right way but I don't have a better option either.

KONOCHO · 2024-04-19T17:27:05+00:00

This is a societal problem. As long as women are told this by their mothers, other women and media, we will always have this to some extent. Something drastic has to change for it to go into the other direction.

aerial_coitus · 2024-04-19T17:35:28+00:00

how do we fix it?

we don’t.

Deutalios_818 · 2024-04-19T18:15:17+00:00

It can’t be fixed. This is just how things are now. The best that we can do is adapt to this environment.

WanabeInflatable · 2024-04-19T19:22:08+00:00

I disagree.

Some feminists are misandrists, have double standards or just want to cherry pick beneficial parts of so called patriarchal bargain (men provide, protect, chase and court, while women are independent and empowered).

Nevertheless there are still enough good ones. In my VK group we have a series of posts submitted by subscribers, tellinf about relationships without gendered expectations and such relationships seem to be good for men.

Online dating is horrible for men yet it is not caused by feminists

PUMA-420 · 2024-04-19T12:51:49+00:00

This may sound harsh, but you sound like the kind of guy who won't lead in his relationship and instead wants one of these "50/50 relationships" that modern simps want. No wonder you ended up dating a feminist woman, I'm sorry to say that.

Your only solution is to get your ego up, set boundaries, never let yourself get disrespected by your woman, lead your relationship and never date a woman who says she wants a 50/50 relationship. If you don't want to do any of that, you can always come back here to make a rant post about how another one of your relationships failed.

BravoPUA · 2024-04-19T12:58:34+00:00

I was dating a serial rapist and they raped me.

I was dating a drug addict and they did drugs.

I was dating someone with mental issues and they kept acting crazy.

See the issue.

The 3rd is example is you.

Metraxis · 2024-04-19T12:39:09+00:00

You start by figuring out why you want a relationship and a marriage. Three are easier ways to get your balls drained, and more certain ways of getting a child to raise. More to the point, once you know what need you're filling, you can more easily extract yourself from relationships that don't fill that need

GhettoJamesBond · 2024-04-19T12:44:02+00:00

Date a girl that's traditional and take a long time before having a baby or moving her in. It's not a guarantee but it's your best bet. Also forget about getting legally married. Too much risk today.

TravelingTrousers · 2024-04-19T12:37:20+00:00

I have found the best kind of people are the ones who are for Human Rights and talk about Misogyny and Misandry, both. "Human Rights" is more encompassing and will bet that you will find someone who will be For the rights of any group of people and be willing to hear that group's pleas.

DuyTran0634 · 2024-04-19T16:29:08+00:00

You not only dated a femcel, but you dated a heavy one. LOL RIP you.

EmranRambo · 2024-04-19T11:55:12+00:00

You can't do anything about it. Find an young illiterate woman who has never used a mobile phone.

MrMacDoctor · 2024-04-19T12:17:22+00:00

just be what they expect you to be

Title	Feminism has completely destroyed relationships how do we fix it?
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Date	April 19, 2024 11:31 AM UTC (2 years ago)
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