Do you think men maintaining a strict diet would be more beneficial to their physical appearance than weight lifting?

Regular-Loser-569 · 2022-09-26T19:58:31+00:00

适度健身吸引异性，过度健身吸引同性

It's a popular saying on Chinese internet: working out appropriately will attract the opposite sex, working out excessively will attract the same sex.

Feisty-Saturn · 2022-09-26T19:59:52+00:00

It is hard to maintain a strict diet year round so just being reliant on that alone will probably be a detriment.

You talk about both gym rats and lean men (both go to the gym) both having girlfriends. It sounds like weight lifting worked for them. So I don’t really get how you are saying weight lifting isn’t beneficial.

PlatypusPolka · 2022-09-26T20:02:42+00:00

Maintaining a strict diet will keep you thin but it will not provide you with the muscle definition that weights will.

MoMoney_MoHoes · 2022-09-26T20:09:08+00:00

A man who falls in between not a stick and not chubby will do well regardless; it'll come down to how you present yourself appearance-wise and socially. Lot of dudes are fed the get swole advice, but can't dress, hair is a mess, and can't exude the right charisma/energy towards a given demographic.

All in all, weightlifting is cool, but you're not going to get chicks if you don't have what I listed above. Strict dieting is unneceasary unless you have specific health issues, doing bodybuilding cuts, or are a fitness influencer.

WilliamWyattD · 2022-09-26T20:14:14+00:00

This is a false dichotomy. You can sculpt many different kinds of bodies at the gym--you don't have to aim for WWE size.

It is well known that men prefer more musculature than women do. But that is right now. It is hard to say how much that will change in the future. Furthermore, women have developed a taste for things like abs, and it is growing.

Diet and exercise intersect, and to some degree you can compensate for deficiencies in one by more effort in the other. All one can say is that the ideal male body for females, as of today's culture, tends to take both a good diet and a lot of exercise and gym work. But not bulking up gym work.

Mobrowncheeks · 2022-09-26T20:04:53+00:00

The lean people you see together probably live similar life styles. Like swimming teams, hiking / climbing, cycling, which is why they are usually together.

Becoming abnormally muscular casts yourself into a zone of being gross to a lot, seen as arrogant/ intimidating by a lot, and being fetishized by the ones who like that. This happened to me as well. Muscle men also tend to make chubby girls feel smaller in more feminine then a dude of the same height but thin so there’s that too .

simeneta_two · 2022-09-26T20:22:51+00:00

First of all those lean guys are doing some form of strength training too. Diet alone won’t give you the “Brad Pitt in Fight Club” physique that’s considered ideal.

Second, do the gym rats actually have an aesthetically pleasing physique? Because you can be strong af but not have a body that’s attractive to women (see: a lot of powerlifters).

DrinkItInMan11 · 2022-09-26T21:38:12+00:00

You should be doing both.

As a man you should try to always be on a lean bulk, you should be avoiding fast food, eating out, alcohol and smoking while maintaining a CLEAN diet.

Coolio_Street_Racer · 2022-09-26T20:35:24+00:00

If you don’t use your muscle at all and just diet you will likely end up skinny fat, not lean. As your body will atrophy away all your muscle and try to retain fat instead.

Kahing · 2022-09-26T20:36:18+00:00

Both. Get in the gym to get some decent muscle tone, then maintain a body fat level that will ensure a decent face and make all that muscle tone visible. Just dieting alone without any strength training makes you simply skinny.

InfoVariety-8842 · 2022-09-26T20:39:16+00:00

With my particular body, I will get very small arms and weak looking shoulders if I don’t lift. And my gut will hang in there until very low bf%. And if I actually get low enough to lose the gut with no weightlifting, I will look absolutely scrawny and emaciated. So no I definitely need to do a bare minimum amount of lifting, regardless of diet.

ViolentTakeByForce · 2022-09-26T21:30:45+00:00

You need both as a man. Personally I think it’s a huge discredit to yourself as a man too look fat or like a gust of wind can blow you over because you are too skinny. You should want to have some physical strength behind you and not let your body go one way or the other.

Valuable-Marzipan761 · 2022-09-26T20:20:36+00:00

I heard a bodybuilder saybsomething like "80% of the work is done in the kitchen" so yes i think workong out without maintaining a strict diet would be ineffective.

bunnakay · 2022-09-26T20:30:00+00:00

I like skinny with very little muscle (meaning, the muscle you can see should be visible because there's no fat covering it...not because the muscles are so huge), followed by dad bod.

toasterchild · 2022-09-26T20:42:57+00:00

Women have been telling men for a long time weight lifting is over rated but men do it to impress themselves i think.

Lift_and_Lurk · 2022-09-26T20:45:25+00:00

“Muscles are made in the gym. Abs are made in the kitchen”.

_Duriel_1000_ · 2022-09-26T20:53:53+00:00

You should go talk to the couples and ask them. Its also up to you, and what you are confident with. If you are happy with your size when you are not working out, go for it. I workout because I like being bulky, not thin or ripped. I also workout because I dont want a strict diet. I eat whatever I want, and drink alcohol. Working out counterbalances my bad habits/

AreOut · 2022-09-26T21:46:39+00:00

I'd say both but without steroids, most women don't like men with oversized muscles.

Or if you want it easier way just strict diet + roids and you will look like a natural bodybuilder who lifts.

RahLyt · 2022-09-26T21:57:32+00:00

This sounds like rationalisation to not work out.

veloron2008 · 2022-09-26T22:27:30+00:00

Above some (admittedly subjective) threshold of muscularity, I believe women are more attracted to leanness and vascularity, which is suggestive of high fitness. Lots of gym rat types are not fit at all, just big. I know, as back in my hardcore lifting days I learned quite painfully that I wasn't really fit when I tried to run stadium stairs for cross training.

So, I got into competitive bike racing and lost all interest in lifting. I'm now pretty much perma-ripped with veins popping (180lbs @ 5'11"). Combined with above average muscularity thanks to genetics and previous weightlifting, I'm always getting looks. Far more than when I looked like a weight lifter (210 lbs).

Moral of the story: don't skip your cardio if you want to be fit and lean.

Bonus: burn more calories and you can eat more, too. ;)

Freevoulous · 2022-09-26T22:40:35+00:00

These guys are not big, but instead look chiseled.

Dude, these guys lift, do HIIT and cardio ATOP of a good diet.

Yes, women, especially young attractive women prefer lean guys with an ottermode shredded physique.

Such physique is created at the gym, at the track, and at the kitchen.

Smitten_Squire · 2022-09-26T21:52:06+00:00

Its because the jacked steroid freaks are compensating for something, it could be anything. But thats why you see them with chubby/fat girls, because they are equal.

The confident lean man doesnt have issues and isnt compensating. So he gets a better girl than the steroid man can get.

Not always the case, but generally

begrydgerer · 2022-09-26T22:33:57+00:00

One of the best ways of losing fat is doing weights

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KikiYuyu · 2022-09-26T20:06:06+00:00

This seems more like a medical question than a generic gender issue

SantarpiosPizza · 2022-09-26T20:08:03+00:00

Both!

DaMilan · 2022-09-26T20:20:11+00:00

Not *just* maintaing a strict diet, but in combination with calisthetics you will fit the female gaze much, much better than "pumped up", and it will cost you much less effort, time and money than running into the gym 4x times a week.

(That beeing said, ofc you shouldn't optimise your life around fitting the female gaze, if you feel better with more muscles, do the gym stuff, it is *better* than a couchpotato skinnyfat or dadbod kind of body, though *a bit* worse than a 10% Bodyfat Calisthetics E-Boy physique.)

On a related note, discovering and laerning in the last year on the difference between the male and the female gaze (not just in terms of physique, but also in facial aesthetics) has been the biggest revelation for me in my whole life of learning about gender dynamics, sad that I am already in my mid-20s by now and dont have much time left to optimise now, but better late than never!

Also, obviously not all women are the same. The majority may prefer a slim, toned physique, but there are also women who prefer really muscular or bear-ish looking guys. But on the other hand, these markets are already oversaturated. And Filterbubbles also matter a lot. Especially to young, kinky and not-looking-for-something-serious-yet girls, the slim e-boy physique will work the best.

Claymore-Roomba- · 2022-09-26T22:33:22+00:00

You should do both, for yourself and nobody else.

jcdbionicman273 · 2022-09-26T22:35:14+00:00

A strict diet is a bad diet, unless you just wanna lose weight and nothing else

Hoopy223 · 2022-09-26T22:51:40+00:00

Diet is the most important thing. It is so damn vital to have a proper diet for whatever it is you want to do.

Own_Wall_4233 · 2022-09-26T23:04:21+00:00

A strict, low calorie diet without weightlifting will get most guys skinny, or even worse, skinny fat. Bulk, lean down, repeat. It's literally impossible to get too "bulky" if you're natural.

FFTzzz · 2022-09-26T23:05:58+00:00

look chiseled. What do you mean by chiseled. Chiseled implies quite a bit of muscle mass and low fat. You will not be "chiseled" if you do not lift no matter how low is your BF%.

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