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[–]autistic_cool_kidSelf-made Chad 39yo man | Buddhistpilled & Autismaxxed 2 points3 points4 points 11 months ago (0 children) | Copy Link

[–]Lift_and_LurkMan: all pills are dumb 3 points4 points5 points 11 months ago (14 children) | Copy Link

[–]N_Count_CouncilRed pill Man -1 points0 points1 point 11 months ago (12 children) | Copy Link

[–]autistic_cool_kidSelf-made Chad 39yo man | Buddhistpilled & Autismaxxed 5 points6 points7 points 11 months ago (10 children) | Copy Link

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[–]autistic_cool_kidSelf-made Chad 39yo man | Buddhistpilled & Autismaxxed 3 points4 points5 points 11 months ago (6 children) | Copy Link

[–]N_Count_CouncilRed pill Man 0 points1 point2 points 11 months ago (5 children) | Copy Link

[–]autistic_cool_kidSelf-made Chad 39yo man | Buddhistpilled & Autismaxxed 0 points1 point2 points 11 months ago (4 children) | Copy Link

[–]N_Count_CouncilRed pill Man 0 points1 point2 points 11 months ago (3 children) | Copy Link

[–]autistic_cool_kidSelf-made Chad 39yo man | Buddhistpilled & Autismaxxed -1 points0 points1 point 11 months ago (2 children) | Copy Link

[–]N_Count_CouncilRed pill Man 0 points1 point2 points 11 months ago (1 child) | Copy Link

[–] autistic_cool_kid Self-made Chad 39yo man | Buddhistpilled & Autismaxxed -1 points 0 points 1 point 11 months ago (0 children) | Copy Link

[–]Lift_and_LurkMan: all pills are dumb 5 points6 points7 points 11 months ago* (0 children) | Copy Link

[–]attendquoiwoman....pills are dumb 1 point2 points3 points 11 months ago (0 children) | Copy Link

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[–]autistic_cool_kidSelf-made Chad 39yo man | Buddhistpilled & Autismaxxed 5 points6 points7 points 11 months ago (0 children) | Copy Link

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[–]Bulky-Throat-3055Black pill man -1 points0 points1 point 11 months ago* (3 children) | Copy Link

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[–]Bulky-Throat-3055Black pill man 0 points1 point2 points 11 months ago (0 children) | Copy Link

[–]Lift_and_LurkMan: all pills are dumb 3 points4 points5 points 11 months ago (6 children) | Copy Link

[–]Bulky-Throat-3055Black pill man 0 points1 point2 points 11 months ago (5 children) | Copy Link

[–]Lift_and_LurkMan: all pills are dumb 1 point2 points3 points 11 months ago* (4 children) | Copy Link

[–]Bulky-Throat-3055Black pill man 0 points1 point2 points 11 months ago (3 children) | Copy Link

[–]Lift_and_LurkMan: all pills are dumb 2 points3 points4 points 11 months ago (2 children) | Copy Link

[–]Bulky-Throat-3055Black pill man -1 points0 points1 point 11 months ago (1 child) | Copy Link

[–]Lift_and_LurkMan: all pills are dumb 0 points1 point2 points 11 months ago* (0 children) | Copy Link

Find the next ten, or 20, or 30. Or however many it takes.

Way way back in the day I brought a girl to a party and she bounced right off. I was feeling bad but the host was making boilermakers. I never had one, so I tried (they sneak up on you quick) anyways after 4 i was so far gone I had this idea that I should just walk down sorority row and ask ANY girl I saw out. So off I went, approaching literally any girl that happened to be outside or cross my path.

Eventually my bros realized I was gone and went looking for me, which was good cause I don’t remember much after a while, but it sounds like I asked out dozens of girls that night.

Well the next morning, as I was nursing a brutal hangover, I reached into my jacket pocket and in it was a napkin with a blurry name and phone number written on it. Turns out even in my completely bombed out state, I still managed to get one girl to go “ok call me,”.

After that I stopped worrying about the rejections. At some point someone’s gonna say yes as long as you stick with it.

[–]PSXSnack09AntiPorn | No Pill Man - Blue Pill fatigue 1 point2 points3 points 11 months ago (46 children) | Copy Link

[–]RahLytPurple Pill Man 0 points1 point2 points 11 months ago (12 children) | Copy Link

[–]N_Count_CouncilRed pill Man -1 points0 points1 point 11 months ago (0 children) | Copy Link

[–]PSXSnack09AntiPorn | No Pill Man - Blue Pill fatigue 1 point2 points3 points 11 months ago (3 children) | Copy Link

[–]RahLytPurple Pill Man 0 points1 point2 points 11 months ago (2 children) | Copy Link

[–]PSXSnack09AntiPorn | No Pill Man - Blue Pill fatigue 0 points1 point2 points 11 months ago (1 child) | Copy Link

[–]RahLytPurple Pill Man 0 points1 point2 points 11 months ago (0 children) | Copy Link

[–]ThatBitchA♀️ My husband takes out the trash🗑 1 point2 points3 points 11 months ago (6 children) | Copy Link

[–]PSXSnack09AntiPorn | No Pill Man - Blue Pill fatigue 1 point2 points3 points 11 months ago (1 child) | Copy Link

[–]ThatBitchA♀️ My husband takes out the trash🗑 0 points1 point2 points 11 months ago (0 children) | Copy Link

[–]RahLytPurple Pill Man 0 points1 point2 points 11 months ago* (3 children) | Copy Link

Lol it has nothing to do with guys on PPD. It has exclusively to do with identity. Women are here collectively trying to validate themselves by the shaming of men. It's as simple as that.

Modern women can't introspect. So it's easier for them to change the narrative than to change how they see themselves.

That's why a man who didn't pay is fake man. Modern women never confronts her discomfort.

It's also why many of you are here everyday complaining about the guys dehumanising high n count women. If there's 5 comments per thread of anything like that is too much. But most women who complain about that are complaining about how they feel or how they feel they are perceived. It's not reality it's anxiety filling the holes.

There's nothing wrong with promiscuity, the universe doesn't punish anyone for it.

The problem is that with this model women need the world to validate their narrative so they can feel good.

Lol if people learned to be sovereign most if you would understand that the opinion of random guys means nothing anyway, but somehow you're always here.

If you're married and 35+ why are you here on this thread every single week it's up? Lol anyone who can't answer this question proves my point.

[–]ThatBitchA♀️ My husband takes out the trash🗑 -1 points0 points1 point 11 months ago (2 children) | Copy Link

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[–]ThatBitchA♀️ My husband takes out the trash🗑 0 points1 point2 points 11 months ago (0 children) | Copy Link

[–]attendquoiwoman....pills are dumb 4 points5 points6 points 11 months ago (5 children) | Copy Link

[–]N_Count_CouncilRed pill Man -1 points0 points1 point 11 months ago (1 child) | Copy Link

[–]attendquoiwoman....pills are dumb 2 points3 points4 points 11 months ago (0 children) | Copy Link

[–]PSXSnack09AntiPorn | No Pill Man - Blue Pill fatigue -1 points0 points1 point 11 months ago (2 children) | Copy Link

[–]attendquoiwoman....pills are dumb 5 points6 points7 points 11 months ago (1 child) | Copy Link

[–]PSXSnack09AntiPorn | No Pill Man - Blue Pill fatigue -1 points0 points1 point 11 months ago (0 children) | Copy Link

[–]autistic_cool_kidSelf-made Chad 39yo man | Buddhistpilled & Autismaxxed 3 points4 points5 points 11 months ago (12 children) | Copy Link

[–]PSXSnack09AntiPorn | No Pill Man - Blue Pill fatigue 0 points1 point2 points 11 months ago (11 children) | Copy Link

[–]autistic_cool_kidSelf-made Chad 39yo man | Buddhistpilled & Autismaxxed 0 points1 point2 points 11 months ago (10 children) | Copy Link

[–]PSXSnack09AntiPorn | No Pill Man - Blue Pill fatigue 0 points1 point2 points 11 months ago (9 children) | Copy Link

[–]autistic_cool_kidSelf-made Chad 39yo man | Buddhistpilled & Autismaxxed 0 points1 point2 points 11 months ago (8 children) | Copy Link

[–]PSXSnack09AntiPorn | No Pill Man - Blue Pill fatigue 0 points1 point2 points 11 months ago (7 children) | Copy Link

[–]autistic_cool_kidSelf-made Chad 39yo man | Buddhistpilled & Autismaxxed 0 points1 point2 points 11 months ago (6 children) | Copy Link

[–]PSXSnack09AntiPorn | No Pill Man - Blue Pill fatigue 0 points1 point2 points 11 months ago* (5 children) | Copy Link

[–]autistic_cool_kidSelf-made Chad 39yo man | Buddhistpilled & Autismaxxed 0 points1 point2 points 11 months ago (4 children) | Copy Link

[–] PSXSnack09 AntiPorn | No Pill Man - Blue Pill fatigue 0 points 1 point 2 points 11 months ago (3 children) | Copy Link

[–] autistic_cool_kid Self-made Chad 39yo man | Buddhistpilled & Autismaxxed 0 points 1 point 2 points 11 months ago (2 children) | Copy Link

[–] PSXSnack09 AntiPorn | No Pill Man - Blue Pill fatigue 0 points 1 point 2 points 11 months ago (1 child) | Copy Link

[–] autistic_cool_kid Self-made Chad 39yo man | Buddhistpilled & Autismaxxed 0 points 1 point 2 points 11 months ago (0 children) | Copy Link

[–]ThatBitchA♀️ My husband takes out the trash🗑 4 points5 points6 points 11 months ago (2 children) | Copy Link

[–]PSXSnack09AntiPorn | No Pill Man - Blue Pill fatigue -1 points0 points1 point 11 months ago (1 child) | Copy Link

[–]ThatBitchA♀️ My husband takes out the trash🗑 2 points3 points4 points 11 months ago (0 children) | Copy Link

[–]Lift_and_LurkMan: all pills are dumb 2 points3 points4 points 11 months ago (0 children) | Copy Link

[–]N_Count_CouncilRed pill Man 2 points3 points4 points 11 months ago (1 child) | Copy Link

[–]PSXSnack09AntiPorn | No Pill Man - Blue Pill fatigue 3 points4 points5 points 11 months ago (0 children) | Copy Link

[–]MuscletovMaroon pill man 3 points4 points5 points 11 months ago (7 children) | Copy Link

[–]ThatBitchA♀️ My husband takes out the trash🗑 1 point2 points3 points 11 months ago (0 children) | Copy Link

[–]Lemon_geckoWoman (blue). I adopted the bear 4 points5 points6 points 11 months ago (5 children) | Copy Link

[–]PSXSnack09AntiPorn | No Pill Man - Blue Pill fatigue -2 points-1 points0 points 11 months ago (1 child) | Copy Link

[–]Lemon_geckoWoman (blue). I adopted the bear 5 points6 points7 points 11 months ago* (0 children) | Copy Link

[–]MuscletovMaroon pill man -1 points0 points1 point 11 months ago (2 children) | Copy Link

[–]half_avocado33No Pill Woman 3 points4 points5 points 11 months ago (0 children) | Copy Link

[–]Lemon_geckoWoman (blue). I adopted the bear 3 points4 points5 points 11 months ago (0 children) | Copy Link

[–]attendquoiwoman....pills are dumb 3 points4 points5 points 11 months ago (30 children) | Copy Link

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[–]PSXSnack09AntiPorn | No Pill Man - Blue Pill fatigue 5 points6 points7 points 11 months ago (2 children) | Copy Link

[–]attendquoiwoman....pills are dumb 4 points5 points6 points 11 months ago (1 child) | Copy Link

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[–]N_Count_CouncilRed pill Man -1 points0 points1 point 11 months ago (14 children) | Copy Link

[–]ThatBitchA♀️ My husband takes out the trash🗑 5 points6 points7 points 11 months ago (13 children) | Copy Link

[–]N_Count_CouncilRed pill Man 0 points1 point2 points 11 months ago (12 children) | Copy Link

[–]attendquoiwoman....pills are dumb 4 points5 points6 points 11 months ago (8 children) | Copy Link

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[–]ThatBitchA♀️ My husband takes out the trash🗑 4 points5 points6 points 11 months ago (2 children) | Copy Link

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[–]attendquoiwoman....pills are dumb 5 points6 points7 points 11 months ago (0 children) | Copy Link

[–]Lift_and_LurkMan: all pills are dumb 5 points6 points7 points 11 months ago* (2 children) | Copy Link

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[–]grillopieThats like, your opinion Man -1 points0 points1 point 11 months ago (5 children) | Copy Link

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nowhere did i say anything about lying. if its a fact, you are self sabotaging by finding excuses to not get experience. unless you just physically cannot bring yourself to be with a high n woman, like you need to know its < 3 before you have sex, just to feel any attraction, then this doesnt apply to you. but if youre trying to justify not dating high n women with science or thinking it is associated with whatever outcomes, youre just self sabotaging.

if some possibly higher n woman you like, who likes you, is interested in some monogamous arrangement (hardly much of a commitment, not marriage or anything) and you try to convince yourself not to go forward with it because you think high n may be slightly more associated with cheating or something like that, and bail on the whole thing for that reason, how is that not self sabotage if experience is seen as good by women? its just a dumb red flag to have. when someone has nonsensical red flags, that just strikes me as self sabotage.

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[–]Lemon_geckoWoman (blue). I adopted the bear 1 point2 points3 points 11 months ago (4 children) | Copy Link

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I didn't imply it, and I certainly don't think so.

I was responding to another comment about how some men here find 5 sexual partners to be high. I laughed and said, "I hit 5 in high school.

Which implies you don't think it's high. From there it's no longer some massive leap of logic to think that you believe it may even be normal. That's the implication anyway. Either you worded it poorly or are dancing around it because.....just because!

And here we are. You seem to be bothered by my remark. That's something you should explore.

Inasmuch as I find it stupid, sure. But I'd hardly call that being "bothered", I read a lot of stupid stuff on Reddit. This was just one of them.

Best of luck. I hope you flexing your "academic dominance" brings you all that you desire.

It did. It also proved I'm good for much more than how good I can fuck.

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[–] ThatBitchA ♀️ My husband takes out the trash🗑 1 point 2 points 3 points 11 months ago (0 children) | Copy Link

[–]autistic_cool_kidSelf-made Chad 39yo man | Buddhistpilled & Autismaxxed 5 points6 points7 points 11 months ago (30 children) | Copy Link

[–]Mathemaniac1080 1 point2 points3 points 11 months ago (0 children) | Copy Link

[–]Downtown_Werewolf_44Disenchanted chad (man) 3 points4 points5 points 11 months ago (16 children) | Copy Link

[–]autistic_cool_kidSelf-made Chad 39yo man | Buddhistpilled & Autismaxxed 4 points5 points6 points 11 months ago (15 children) | Copy Link

[–]Downtown_Werewolf_44Disenchanted chad (man) 4 points5 points6 points 11 months ago (14 children) | Copy Link

You didn't get the comparison.

I get it, it just doesn't work since their not on the same level at all.

I'm talking about how misguided it is to use statistical trends to make conclusions about people.

I would not say it's missguided, it obviously need a little bit of individual examination (and I do believe everyone does that intuitively) but it's still a good predictor.

Avoiding men with a history of violence sounds like a good way to avoid violence, and avoiding women who have sexual experience sounds like a good way to increase your chances of ending up in a dead bedroom.

You got it wrong, it's not about avoiding women with sexual experience, I wouldn't want a 30 years old virgin. It's about avoiding women who makes questionable choices. Most of the time, I wouldn't pick a woman who swiths partners every 3 months for a long term relationship. If she had sex 3 times a day during a few long term relationship, that's totaly fine.

But even then, this isn't what we are talking about, we are talking about the validity of using statistical trends to make judgements about people. If your argument is "should we take her past into account" that's a different discussion.

I get your point but both are kind of linked. Statiscal analysis of behavioral data are usefull, they are not magic but a lot of business ( marketing, insurance, finance,...) are using them for a reason.

[–]autistic_cool_kidSelf-made Chad 39yo man | Buddhistpilled & Autismaxxed 1 point2 points3 points 11 months ago (13 children) | Copy Link

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Insurance work with N > 100 000 number of people to determine that an individual has an higher risk of getting into a crash than an average person. Just like men work with N > 100 000 number of people to determine that an individual has an higher risk of getting into a divorce than an average person.

Not what I meant. The processes make sense when dealing with a lot of people, they don't make sense on the individual level. You are not the single client of that insurance you are a number in a huge sum of people.

The insurance company cant tell your exact actual risk of accident, that makes zero sense. But they can apply the same set of rules to a large number of people based on statistical trends, only then they can evaluate their financial risk.

I have exactly the same feeling about you.

Good, we agree to disagree

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Not what I meant. The processes make sense when dealing with a lot of people, they don't make sense on the individual level. You are not the single client of that insurance you are a number in a huge sum of people.

The insurance company cant tell your exact actual risk of accident, that makes zero sense. But they can apply the same set of rules to a large number of people based on statistical trends, only then they can evaluate their financial risk.

You are almost there. The company can't tell the exact actual risk of accident, no one can. They use a large number of statistical data to determine were an individual belong into the lader, from the less likely to be a financial burden to the more likely.

It's not different from what men do when they use statistics to try to determine the higher risk of divorce of an individual by seeing where she belong on the lader, from less likely to end up the relationship to more likely to do so.

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The odds aren't random, that doesn't make sense.

You are trying to bet on the future, you can model this as a bet which have certain outcomes, when you are taking a decision you are basically gambling on the outcome. Doesn't matter if it's 50/50 or 80/20, the whole point here is you are trying to predict what will happen, you don't know the future so it's effectively a random outcome which odds you are trying to guess.

"Can you tell me how your logic differs from "men have higher statistical trend of being murderers so I should avoid all men" ?"

Allready answered it on my first post.

You said this:

This comparison doesn't work. Men aren't avoiding any women, just the ones with high bodycounts.

That's not a good answer. Whether the population you avoid is "A certain subset of women" or "The whole set of men", a set is a set, and both of those sets have bad statistical trend associated to them.

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"You are trying to bet on the future, you can model this as a bet which have certain outcomes, when you are taking a decision you are basically gambling on the outcome. Doesn't matter if it's 50/50 or 80/20, the whole point here is you are trying to predict what will happen, you don't know the future so it's effectively a random outcome which odds you are trying to guess."

Might be a traduction problem, random means "equal odds" in French, I'll keep using it as I would do in French.

You are not trying to bet on random odd, you're trying to predict future behaviors based on past behaviors, that not the same.

This is not guaranteed, we agree on that but random odds would mean an equal distribution between all women and stats shows that the higher the body count, the higher the chances of divorce.

Your narrative is the same fallacy pushed by some women around there that you can't tell women to "chose better" since they are always blindsinded by assholes (which is almost never the case). Past behavior isn't a perfect way to predict future actions, but it's, without a doubt, the most effective one.

"That's not a good answer. Whether the population you avoid is "A certain subset of women" or "The whole set of men", a set is a set, and both of those sets have bad statistical trend associated to them."

My answer is good, yours is totaly inacurate since it ignore the outcome. Avoiding a certain subset of women means that you still want to end in a relationship while minimising risks. Avoiding all men means that you give up on a relationship. Women are free to do so but saying it's similar to avoiding "a certain subset of women" is just not true.

Would you say that "looks like Boeing's planes have a lot of troubles lately. I'll still fly but I would avoid boeing at all cost" and "Looks like Boeing's planes have a Lot of troubles lately. I'm done flying forever" are the same thing?

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I think even average women can have basically as much sex with the most attractive members of the opposite sex as they like as long as they don't ask for commitment in return. I think those women that take advantage of this are more likely to experience fantastic sex compared to those women that don't do it. In the first place, I think the range of sexual experience that's possible for women is much larger than for men, so it's pretty likely that a woman with a low n-count has a few sexual encounters and walks away with an impression like "That's it? That's sex? I don't see why everyone makes such a big deal about it..." Whereas a woman who is fully taking advantage of her golden ticket is very likely to have her mind blown by someone capping out the attractiveness scale.

Eventually she'll start to want commitment and now she runs into trouble because the King of Sex wants to keep her on his rotation instead of settle down with her. He's probably not planning to settle down until age 55 or so and she doesn't want to wait that long. She lowers her standards to find a guy that'll commit to her and the first thing she sacrifices is attractiveness because less attractive guys are more desperate and therefore more likely to commit. The guy is still a little attractive to her (otherwise she wouldn't be able to stand him touching her), but nothing like the guys she had before him. That's okay, though, because what she loses in looks she gains in all the commitment and relationship stuff she wants. She's willing to accept taking a hit to her sex life if it means an improvement in all other regards for a full, long-term relationship.

Here's the problem though: few guys would want to fill that role if they knew about her past. She's trying to find a guy who cares about her, will invest in and provide for her, and who is in it for her long-term because her instincts are driving her to avoid the outcome where she ends up pregnant and abandoned because her guy cares about some other girl more. But the guy's instincts don't work like that. His instincts are prioritizing trying to find the girl who wants to actually be made pregnant by him. And above all, the girl that's not going to try to trick him into raising a kid with some hotter guy's genes. So he wants to find, above all else, the woman who wants to sleep with him more than any other man. Once he finds out that she's had better than him in her past and has compromised on sexual attraction to find the relationship she wants, he will be out of there. He doesn't want to be placed in the role of her relationship 1st choice but her sex 2nd choice (or 3rd, or 17th, or whatever). His instincts are driving him to seek out a girl that maybe he likes less than golden ticket girl but she genuinely wants to sleep with him more than any other guy.

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Like half the population (and a disproportionately large amount of guys that are popular with women) are extroverts. Going out, meeting new people, and partying is fun and energizing to them, not tiring. On the flip side, settling into a routine of living the same week and having the same sex over and over again on autopilot is depression-inducing. Some seek novelty and presence in the moment over thoughtless autopilot routine. Some seek challenge and growth over minimizing money and effort spent to make life as easy and frictionless as possible.

That said, I do think most guys take breaks from dating. Either just to rest or to focus on something else for a while. But eventually the feeling of "I'm just stagnating while living in my comfort zone" plus the hunger for challenge and new experience drives them out of it.

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yes, no chance that she actually liked him, she had to lie and manipulate.

You're not getting it. I think she DOES like him. She genuinely loves his above all other men. They might be best friends. He's probably the man that cares about her the most, and vice versa. They're most likely very emotionally connected. He's the man she wants to spend every day with and raise a child together with. These are the reasons she's choosing him as a relationship partner.

But what I'm saying is he's probably not the best sex she's ever had. She's knowingly compromising to a certain extent on sex because, in her mind, he's "the total package". With everything factored in, he's way over the top of all other men. So it feels like a worthwhile tradeoff from her point of view.

But if she told him exactly that, he wouldn't be happy about it. And unless she's totally clueless about men, she knows it. So she hides it from him.

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Well, if what you're saying is true and you're one of the rare ones like that guy, then respect.

I could switch girls every weekend if I wanted to but (been there done that) but frankly I'd rather play Baldur gates 3 or have a meaningful date with one of my partners.

Yeah, I'm over here in my monogamous relationship being lazy and playing Shadows of Doubt myself. It's good in a way. But, this isn't ideal for me. I'd rather be like that guy (and apparently you).

I got a text a month ago from a girl from my past that said she wanted to travel to meet me again and was saving up money to do it. Then I got a call last week from another girl from my past who told me "Well, if you have a girlfriend now then I don't want to talk to you" (so she definitely wanted to hook up again.) But my girlfriend was having none of it. She wanted to shut all that down immediately.

I like my girlfriend better than the other two, so it doesn't make sense to implode my relationship for them, but it still sucks. I hate having to put up with only one girl while other guys gets to have variety.

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Every one of the girls I mentioned above have tried to seek a monogamous relationship from me in the past. I can't even get hookups without doing an elaborate relationship avoidance negotiation. I'm certain from her general vibe and history that the woman that called me last week regularly sleeps with guys on the first date, but she made me wait until date 5 because she thought making me wait for sex would make me want a relationship with her more. Almost every woman does that "make him wait for sex" thing to me.

I've had enough dating experience to know where I stand. Women see me as a "relationship guy". A woman even told me this directly once, thinking she was paying me a compliment. In other words, unless commitment and exclusivity are attached (or at least are on the table as possibilities in the future), I'm not worth hooking up with. With only one exception, all of my attempts at extra-relationship relationships have been met with failure.

So while I appreciate the invitation and would love to try ENM, I think it's out of my reach.

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One thing about the existing studies thus far is that they correlate divorce with n-count, however, there's little literature as far as I'm aware attempting to measure the correlation between n-count and actual relationship satisfaction itself. The stuff I can find on the subject is unreliable, either coming from conservative think tanks or not being peer reviewed. Thus I'm not sure just from looking at the data how much of this divorce rate is from low marital satisfaction, and how much it is from these people tending to be very serially monogamous, not taking the christian marriage vows seriously, and preferring to end mediocre relationships instead of trying to make them work.

- Conservative think tank: https://wheatley.byu.edu/00000187-7c64-d575-ad9f-7c77a1a40001/the-myth-of-sexual-experience-press-release-pdf

- Not peer reviewed: https://spark.bethel.edu/cgi/viewcontent.cgi?article=1005&context=psychology-students

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I have posted studies.

This one shows the actual lifetime average is 4-7 partners for both men and women.

https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/nsfg/key_statistics/n-keystat.htm

This one shows that by age 44 only .3 percent of men are still virgins

https://health.howstuffworks.com/relationships/love/how-many-people-die-virgins-never-have-sex.htm

And this one shows that only about 10 percent of young people are engaging in casual anyways

https://www.bustle.com/p/the-size-of-hookup-culture-is-being-greatly-overestimated-report-finds-its-having-some-damaging-effects-61050

So maybe the reason there aren’t studies of “good” is because there just aren’t that many people that are high N: which you never defined- so what is high n?

Let alone the ones that are that would have to be sought out and be willing to “partake in a study”

Also: does this mean you don’t actually have that evidence you claimed?

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There isn’t a single study to disprove the existent of a Flying Spaghetti Monster. That doesn’t mean no he exists.

My claim is about real human behavior, which can and has been studied.

Just because you assume high-N behavior doesn't affect LTRs doesn't make it true. Your opinion isn't evidence. Actual studies do exist showing correlation with marital outcomes.

I've provided peer-reviewed studies showing high-N women have higher divorce rates. You haven't provided any studies showing the opposite. That's why your "it doesn't matter" argument is irrelevant. Just because you assume high-N behavior doesn't affect LTRs doesn't make it true. Your opinion isn't evidence. Actual studies do exist showing correlation with marital outcomes.

Now stop talking to me without studies. I'm done with Redditors who can't debate.

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For me, it's not about experience as in skill, but as in frame of reference.

I had a feeling of wanting to explore further before I knew about her experiences, and that only grew stronger after I found out.

At this point, I am quite understanding of that need to explore (which is stronger in some than in others).

To give an analogy; It's like I was relatively happy living in some small town, but when I heard a friend tell about their experiences all over the world I felt like I was missing out and also wanted to explore that. In the end, I might very well conclude that my small town is best and come back, just like him. But the problem lies in the fact that for me this is still a question mark. There might very well be something out there that suits me better...

And at first I was ok dismissing that feeling but after finding out she did all that exploration I'm no longer satisfied with the current set-up.

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If it was important biologically you would be able to say body count just from looking at woman, or being near her.

No, lots of things are important biologically that we never evolved mechanisms to deal with.

I don't even see how that would be important biologically, all you wired for is to procreate, so all you need to know is that a woman isn't pregnant and available, that's it. You're not wired to procreate but only with virgins.

A woman we have sex with may have already been impregnated by another man but not yet showing, or may be impregnated by another man soon after we have sex with her, both of which are more likely with a promiscuous woman. This means that, if we invest resouces into the child she births in roughly 9 months, we're more likely to be investing into a kid that isn't our own with a promiscuous woman, which is a big reproductive opportunity cost.

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You people need to learn that just because you've pinpointed reasonings that apply to some guys, that doesn't mean they extend universally to all guys.

I will never have status and I don't care how women feel about sex as long as they still have it. I still hate the idea of dating high-n women since I trust statistics that they're higher breakup risks (and being forced back into the dating scene is terrible for men) and I also don't like how they hooked up with other guys but want me to commit first (would actually seethe eternally over this, in fact, poisoning the relationship). Also I'd feel great pressure to cheat if I felt I didn't get to have as much life experience as my partner did. And I'd be paranoid about her past partners impeding me in some way. Petty sure but those are my reasons and they're different from the ones you listed.

Also some guys just find it icky (whether they're hypocrites or not; some women find shy guys icky despite taking zero initiative in dating themselves, etc.)

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I still hate the idea of dating high-n women since I trust statistics that they're higher breakup risks (and being forced back into the dating scene is terrible for men)
I also don't like how they hooked up with other guys but want me to commit first (would actually seethe eternally over this, in fact, poisoning the relationship).
Also I'd feel great pressure to cheat if I felt I didn't get to have as much life experience as my partner did. And I'd be paranoid about her past partners impeding me in some way.

I'm with you bro but the fact is that all this is 100% insecurity and feeling inadequate.

By which I am not trying to dismiss those feelings, because I actually think they are valid. I think that the invitation, or challenge is to become a man who is not afraid of the dating market because he knows he can get the women he want. To become a man that does not feel inadquate because of a lack of experience because you have that experience. To become a man that is attractive enough to the point where you don't mind when chicks give sex away freely to other guys because they give it to you for free as well.

It's not a feel good truth as it's a tough challenge, but this is the way reality is, and you only fail and stay sour if you give up and never rise to the challenge.

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That doesn’t make sense because in red pill theory women always prefer commitment over casual, so why would a woman want to “bypass” commitment? And the flip side is of course the guy would want to “bypass” commitment by getting easy sex, because men allegedly prefer casual to commitment. So they’re not parallel.

Also if women in general getting the ick from men using prostitutes was about “bypassing commitment,” then you’d see the same response given to high n count men, but it’s not. The women who do often get icked by high n count men, are low n count women.

Men who use prostitutes are disliked because prostitutes are most often there because they’ve been trafficked. It’s rarely “consensual” and it’s likely the man doesn’t care if it is or isn’t. There’s also the reputation that it’s mostly married men visiting them, i.e men with no ethics anyway.

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I don’t know any women who did chores for a man or hook up without becoming exclusive first. That does just sound like you’re describing a sad pickme.

I'm sure they do, but it's never with a guy below their league lmao, that's the entire point. No 5/10 woman is going to have casual sex with even a 5/10 man.

That sounds like you’re talking about a small minority of hookups. The women around me who have hook ups do so with men with the same “mate value” imo. The hook up happening is mostly the guy being in the right place at the right time. That’s how their relationships often start out, too.

Even the chads I know irl never bother to spend effort on women who they see as less good looking than themselves, unless they really enjoy her vibe. Because why would they unless they were desperate?

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huh? What do you think we're talking about here? How are women racking up huge bodycounts while getting commitment, in your eyes?

They hook up with someone not having specific intentions in mind, and if they end up liking each other, they go exclusive and date. Then when the relationship doesn’t work out, they eventually are open to hook ups again.

As someone who has casual sex, and seen a lot of hookups from my friends, no. Women our level never actually will do this, it's only women significantly lower level.

You and your friends only hook up with women you see as beneath you and that you’re barely attracted to if even at all? And they’re sad pickmes on top of that?

That just sounds like a group of men who don’t respect themselves, or their own time. You don’t need to be bad looking or completely sexless to be desperate.

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That's literally the exact same thing I said, with cope involved. They're hooking up without commitment and hoping that the guy likes them?

No it isn’t? They don’t use sex as some bargaining chip, as if sex makes any man like a woman more. It’s mutual. And they aren’t even doing chores for these men that they’re not exclusive with, because you’d need more feelings for someone to want to do their chores for them than to want to sleep with them. Check your reading comprehension.

No, we're realistic. If a guy is 7/10, then a 7/10 woman isn't going to have casual sex with him. But a 6 or a 5 will. The 7 will make him take her on a date first, she has more bargaining power.

Right, so you guys shoot for pathetic pickme women that you’re also not even attracted to, and then think everyone must be doing what you did?

People hook up at parties where they are friends of friends, or sometimes go hang out somewhere fun first, and how is that a bad thing? So this was just about you refusing to do anything where you’re seen outside with the women you’ve embarrassed to be sleeping with? Lol

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No it isn’t? They don’t use sex as some bargaining chip, as if sex makes any man like a woman more. It’s mutual.

This is the cope. It's "mutual" because you're agreeing to give sex for basically nothing in return except that the guy be higher SMV than you. Any woman can walk down the street and say "who wants to fuck" to 100 men and probably 99 of them will say yes. Of course it's MUTUAL LMFAO

Right, so you guys shoot for pathetic pickme women that you’re also not even attracted to, and then think everyone must be doing what you did?

People hook up at parties where they are friends of friends, or sometimes go hang out somewhere fun first, and how is that a bad thing? So this was just about you refusing to do anything where you’re seen outside with the women you’ve embarrassed to be sleeping with? Lol

A 6 is still pretty good, so idk why you're complaining. Most women here are not even 6s. You're ignoring the point that the female 6s aren't having casual sex with male 6s because you want to be emotional "you're not even attracted to them!!!"

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This is the cope. It's "mutual" because you're agreeing to give sex for basically nothing in return except that the guy be higher SMV than you.

The women are getting sex in return because that’s what they wanted…you’re acting like women all use sex to somehow convince a man to grow romantic feelings for them, when that’s far from true. That is delusional.

A 6 is still pretty good, so idk why you're complaining. Most women here are not even 6s. You're ignoring the point that the female 6s aren't having casual sex with male 6s because you want to be emotional "you're not even attracted to them!!!"

I am literally going off of things you have already said here over time, I’m not “complaining.” You’re the one who’s said “hoes all fuck hotter men and then have the audacity to think they’re as appealing as me to have a relationship!!!” that is YOUR situation. You just don’t like that I remembered what you said lmfao. You can’t have it both ways.

You fuck sad pickme women who you see as uglier than you and that you know don’t respect themselves, because they do your chores…and then assume everyone else having casual sex has the same sad situation. It’s no wonder you hate hoes this much, they are a mirror to your own anger towards them.

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The women are getting sex in return because that’s what they wanted…you’re acting like women all use sex to somehow convince a man to grow romantic feelings for them, when that’s far from true. That is delusional.

Regardless of if they are trying to get in a relationship or not, they are punching up. So this doesn't dispute my point. And 99% of the time this is self-cope because they'd be open to a relationship but are just trying to play coy like they aren't the one more invested. Here's a secret though, you as a woman are always more invested when you have casual sex. Well, not really a secret, everyone knows it.

You fuck sad pickme women who you see as uglier than you and that you know don’t respect themselves, because they do your chores…and then assume everyone else having casual sex has the same sad situation. It’s no wonder you hate hoes this much, they are a mirror to your own anger towards them.

All hoes are like this. They know they're punching up, so they try to leverage by being a pickme. Sure not all of them will let me move in, do all the chores, rub my back, but they're all GIVING more than they take.

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I’ve seen it both ways: When there’s some level of emotional investment coming from both sides in a situationship, where sometimes it’s the woman giving more, but other times the man is giving more. And when the man was giving more he wasn’t necessarily less attractive, but he was just generally a basket case. Like clingy and possessive type men I’ve witnessed women get involved with. Those men can get laid a lot though because they’re very sociable and not bad looking.

So no, I don’t think it’s just about attractiveness as if there’s an epidemic of average desperate women getting a roster of hotter men to spend the time on them (literally never seen this outside of the internet), but it’s about who’s the most mentally ill in the situation. Straight up.

All hoes are like this. They know they're punching up, so they try to leverage by being a pickme.

No, they’re not. Those are the hoes you and your friends spend their time with. But if that’s your sole experience then I can see why you’d hold onto the idea that any potential high n count woman you meet must’ve been with men that you think are “better” than you.

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[–]attendquoiwoman....pills are dumb 1 point2 points3 points 11 months ago (6 children) | Copy Link

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[–]attendquoiwoman....pills are dumb 1 point2 points3 points 11 months ago (4 children) | Copy Link

[–]gtbreddit1Pill Man 2 points3 points4 points 11 months ago (3 children) | Copy Link

[–]attendquoiwoman....pills are dumb 1 point2 points3 points 11 months ago (2 children) | Copy Link

[–]gtbreddit1Pill Man 1 point2 points3 points 11 months ago (1 child) | Copy Link

[–]attendquoiwoman....pills are dumb 1 point2 points3 points 11 months ago (0 children) | Copy Link

[–]Lift_and_LurkMan: all pills are dumb 1 point2 points3 points 11 months ago (0 children) | Copy Link

[–]YldutsRed Pill Man 2 points3 points4 points 11 months ago [recovered] (1 child) | Copy Link

[–]Lift_and_Lurk3 points 11 months ago [recovered] | Copy Link

[–]wtknightBlue-ish Married Passport Bro ♂︎[M] 0 points1 point2 points 11 months ago (0 children) | Copy Link

[–]ConsciencelessNetRed Pill Man -1 points0 points1 point 11 months ago [recovered] (10 children) | Copy Link

[–]grillopieThats like, your opinion Man 1 point2 points3 points 11 months ago (0 children) | Copy Link

[–]Morgoth_WorshipperFeminist Woman 2 points3 points4 points 11 months ago (2 children) | Copy Link

[–]RahLytPurple Pill Man 1 point2 points3 points 11 months ago (0 children) | Copy Link

[–]ConsciencelessNetRed Pill Man 0 points1 point2 points 11 months ago [recovered] (0 children) | Copy Link

[–]Economy-Praline9372No Pill 5 points6 points7 points 11 months ago (0 children) | Copy Link

[–]Lift_and_LurkMan: all pills are dumb 4 points5 points6 points 11 months ago (4 children) | Copy Link

[–]ConsciencelessNetRed Pill Man 1 point2 points3 points 11 months ago [recovered] (3 children) | Copy Link

[–]Lift_and_LurkMan: all pills are dumb 1 point2 points3 points 11 months ago (2 children) | Copy Link

[–]ConsciencelessNetRed Pill Man 1 point2 points3 points 11 months ago [recovered] (1 child) | Copy Link

[–]Lift_and_LurkMan: all pills are dumb 1 point2 points3 points 11 months ago (0 children) | Copy Link

[–]Economy-Praline9372No Pill 2 points3 points4 points 11 months ago (9 children) | Copy Link

[–]PM_ME_ZED_BARABlue Pill Man (gayyy, high n, in LTR) 2 points3 points4 points 11 months ago (0 children) | Copy Link

[–]N_Count_CouncilRed pill Man 1 point2 points3 points 11 months ago (0 children) | Copy Link

[–]MongoBobalossus 2 points3 points4 points 11 months ago (2 children) | Copy Link

[–]OffTheRedSandi’m just kidding guys! okay fine, im not kidding deal with it ♂️ 3 points4 points5 points 11 months ago (1 child) | Copy Link

[–]Redhotangelxxx 2 points3 points4 points 11 months ago (0 children) | Copy Link

[–]Lift_and_LurkMan: all pills are dumb 4 points5 points6 points 11 months ago (0 children) | Copy Link

[–]CriticalInstance2766 1 point2 points3 points 11 months ago (1 child) | Copy Link

[–]Economy-Praline9372No Pill 1 point2 points3 points 11 months ago (0 children) | Copy Link

[–]small-pp-small-smv2 points 11 months ago [recovered] | Copy Link

[–]Redhotangelxxx 0 points1 point2 points 11 months ago (11 children) | Copy Link

[–]Bulky-Throat-3055Black pill man 1 point2 points3 points 11 months ago (0 children) | Copy Link

[–]Cultural-Ad-8486Slavic Purple Pill Man 1 point2 points3 points 11 months ago (0 children) | Copy Link

[–]KapoueBlue Pill Man 2 points3 points4 points 11 months ago (6 children) | Copy Link

[–]Redhotangelxxx 1 point2 points3 points 11 months ago (5 children) | Copy Link

[–]Lift_and_LurkMan: all pills are dumb 1 point2 points3 points 11 months ago (4 children) | Copy Link

[–]Redhotangelxxx 1 point2 points3 points 11 months ago (3 children) | Copy Link

[–]Lift_and_LurkMan: all pills are dumb 2 points3 points4 points 11 months ago (2 children) | Copy Link

[–]Redhotangelxxx 2 points3 points4 points 11 months ago (1 child) | Copy Link

[–]Lift_and_LurkMan: all pills are dumb 2 points3 points4 points 11 months ago (0 children) | Copy Link

[–]Economy-Praline9372No Pill 1 point2 points3 points 11 months ago (0 children) | Copy Link

[–]Interesting_Show_962 2 points3 points4 points 11 months ago (0 children) | Copy Link

[–]AutoModerator[S,M] 0 points1 point2 points 11 months ago (4 children) | Copy Link

[–]Logos1789Man 4 points5 points6 points 11 months ago (3 children) | Copy Link

[–]MuscletovMaroon pill man 0 points1 point2 points 11 months ago (0 children) | Copy Link

[–]Lift_and_LurkMan: all pills are dumb -1 points0 points1 point 11 months ago (1 child) | Copy Link

[–]Logos1789Man 2 points3 points4 points 11 months ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Title	N COUNTS WEEKLY DISCUSSION THREAD
Author	AutoModerator
Upvotes	3
Comments	548
Date	September 13, 2025 4:00 PM UTC (11 months ago)
Subreddit	Posted in /r/PurplePillDebate
Original Link	https://old.reddit.com/r/PurplePillDebate/comments/1ng1642/n_counts_weekly_discussion_thread/
Archive Link	https://theredarchive.com/r/PurplePillDebate/n-counts-weekly-discussion-thread.1561893 https://theredarchive.com/post/1561893

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