Why white men hate when their daughters date black guys.

lluser · 2017-02-13T18:48:34+00:00

I'm the same way with Jewish girls. My mother gives me shit about why am I not dating a Jewish girl, and I can't actually tell her that it's because I see the broken spirit and utter depression in my father's eyes from all their years married.

GayLubeOil · 2017-02-14T00:07:58+00:00

When you stigmatize anything you make it more attractive. Alcohol consumption soared during the prohibition. Feminism is the best requirement for the Red Pill. Political correctness is driving the growth of the Alt Right.

If you want to influence someones behavior you have to use hard and soft power. The men who didn't want their daughters to create mulattos, only used hard power. Eventually that created resentment in their daughters which lead to loss of authority and eventually taking the black dick rebellion.

Gadnuk_ · 2017-02-13T14:20:40+00:00

A woman I know dated black guys exclusively since college. Not just the men with dark skin, it had to be large, powerful black men: basketball and football players primarily all at least 6"2 and 225. But going up in range to 6"7 300lbs

Anyway, after over a decade of large black men she dated a regular white guy for 6 months and married him. Her carousel was black, and that is CLEARLY where her sexual preferences lie, but when it came time for beta bux she found whitey. Very clear cut AF/BB.

I think that is where a lot of the SMV loss comes from when someone has black men in their past, a fear of being the obvious beta bux in their own eyes and that of society too. You get to pay for the rest of her life but deep down you'll always know she will never desire you like she did that massive NFL player. Maybe she will even keep a few numbers in her phone for when you lose frame.

Now, if instead of a string of linebackers a girl dated one or two skinny black guys who program computers, I'd guess that whole dynamic never even exists because there's no threat to the ego or the alpha status

TimmyTurnersNuts · 2017-02-14T18:52:44+00:00

Lmao the red pill is starting to turn into stormfront. Better evacuate soon. Well it was fun while it lasted. Great knowledge on here but the Klansman make it hard to overlook their insecurities. Stay red.

abdada · 2017-02-13T13:55:48+00:00

The more a white father made rules for his daughter, the more she broke the rules.

I am white, spent many of my adult years in the worst black ghettos of Chicago, though, and I think the shaming is worse on black dudes with white girls than most whites realize. Black dudes are taunted by their homies and the women shit on them constantly.

The thing is, I think it's way more acceptable today than 20 years ago (I'm in my 40s). I don't even notice biracial couples anymore -- I see so many of them.

The big problem isn't race, it's culture and income. If a black dude has a cosmopolitan cultural upbringing and can speak the language and afford the lifestyle, the racism level drops immensely.

If a white girl has ghetto culture and speaks that language and is broke, her SMV drops no matter how hot she is.

ralphnlauren · 2017-02-13T19:43:30+00:00

Everyone wants to pin the blame on white men for the racism against white women going interracial but it's not just us, it's everyone. In American society, we just don't like it when white women decide to go for men of color, the only time it's acceptable is if she is fat and ugly.

I've had friends from various ethnic backgrounds who dated good looking white women. While the odd white guy here and there might give them issues, the most aggressive hate they received was from women of their own race who didn't even know them. At least white guys were subtle with the hate but women of color broadcasted it out in the open.

One of my friends from back in school was a darker skinned latino who married a blonde, she is pretty good looking. A while back they moved to California where interracial relationships are supposed to be acceptable, he says people openly say racist things to his face and most of the times they are minorities. Whether it is black guys trying to get a piece of his wife or latinas trying to make him feel guilty for dating a white girl, they received some serious hate.

I know everyone wants to play a game of blame the white man but from what I have seen, women of color can are just as against it, even if they date white men themselves.

Xander_DB · 2017-02-14T04:00:24+00:00

A black man using the term "mudsharks".

You know what that term means right? It means that banging a black guy is the equivalent of swimming in shit, dirt and mud. So why would you as a black man use that word to describe women who sleep with you? Also, why would you say that women who have children by you would take a hit to their social status. Who says this about themselves? You're either a racist white guy pretending to be black or a black guy with really low self-esteem.

Edit: You definitely are a white guy.

Oberyn_Reed · 2017-02-13T20:41:45+00:00

I think part of the reason white girls have a thing for black guys is the virtue signaling.

"Look, I'm not racist, I date a black man."

If I ever had a daughter I probably wouldn't care about the race of the person she's dating. I've never asked a women about her past boyfriends, and they've never advertised it to me. But I'm only 20, grew up in a different time, all of the black people here whee I live act like white people. Dress nice, talk properly, apart of the skilled labor force. I'm in-between a poor neighborhood and a middle class one, most of the poor people are white and Latino. I'd be more wary of the background.

throwaway09213 · 2017-02-13T19:31:54+00:00

I feel like in American society, there is this underlying double standard when it comes to interracial relationships, regardless of a guy's SMV or value. White guys can date women of any race and it's perfectly okay, interracial dating is "progressive" all of a sudden. When men of color date white women, unless she happens to be fat and/or ugly, interracial dating is suddenly not so cool. It's not just among white men but just among everyone in general.

No one cares if a white guy dates a pretty latina but if a latino dates a pretty blonde, everyone loses their minds. It does not matter if the latino is successful, good looking, and classy, it's just that he has no business being with her.

America is more okay with some dumb uneducated redneck dating an educated and beautiful woman of color as opposed to a handsome and well off man of color dating a beautiful white woman, god forbid she's a blonde. The USA and I believe the red pill in general have this sort of a "protect the white woman" mentality that I don't really see as much in Europe.

It's funny how America is okay with minorities moving up the social ladder in terms of wealth and economic prosperity but is even more strict towards them dating white women than most European countries are.

No doubt this plays out in regards to game and explains why white American women are by far the pickiest about race compared to their European sisters, often choosing low SMV white men over high SMV men of color.

NeoreactionSafe · 2017-02-13T15:53:59+00:00

European genetics are rare... under 15% of the world population.

So it's logical the father doesn't want the daughter to mix with the generic.

MrPrepper2U · 2017-02-13T22:25:28+00:00

Or we just find it disgusting since most black males end up impregnating a girl and running off.

Strum_Gewehr · 2017-02-13T14:53:41+00:00

I am glad that the "White" blood cells are working fine. Possessive fathers guarding daughters is a good sign.

gthing · 2017-02-13T22:30:25+00:00

I don't mean this to come off as an attack or something, but I'm legitimately curious what some of your "scores of other reason" for not dating black women are. And I'm curious if you feel like any of those things qualify as unfairly painting a race with a broad brush in a way you have also undoubtedly experienced.

askmrcia · 2017-02-13T20:41:23+00:00

As a black guy who also dated (still am) his fair share of white women, all I can say is this. Yea white girl's daddy may not like you, but honestly I rarely found myself in that situation unless they talk about me behind my back.

The demographic that gave me and still gives me the most shit for dating white women are black women. Black women are the worse and honestly I truly hate saying that about black women because again I am black myself. But it's true.

I grew up in the hood, still lived in the hood a couple of years after I finished school, so I was around black people for most of my life. The black guys that date outside their race are the same black guys that young black women never wanted in the first place

Once those black girls hit the wall and are single mothers from all the thugs that pumped and dumped them, only then they want the black guys that they stepped on in their early years. And I'm not talking about soft black guys here. Guys like Kyrie Irving are the type of black guys that black women would not give the Time of day when they were younger. But when they see guys like Irving dating a white or Asian girl, all hell breaks loose.

That's one issue. Now for me personally, even if I wanted to date a black girl, finding a good one is Damn near impossible. Hell white girls are everywhere, and most users here who are white have a hard time finding a good white girl. It does not matter if I'm in grad school, corporate environment, high end clubs/bars, ski resorts, co ed rec adult Leagues, the gym, ect... There are rarely black girls around. Then the ones that are around, they are fat or single mothers.

I go to a gym downtown where a big part of the city's democratic is black. I'd be lucky if I see more than one black girl in there. So my point is if I only went for black women, I'd probably get laid once a year.

Tell this to black women and watch them come for you with torches and pitchforks while calling you superficial.

At the end of the day I don't care and interracial dating will always ruffle feathers. Yea I know racism still goes on and I know that some white families still have huge issues with their daughters dating black men, but black women are the main ones out of any demographic with the most venom on black men dating white girls.

theredpillcommentguy · 2017-02-13T20:59:33+00:00

Look its TRP's weekly 'where da white women at thread'

walkingmydog · 2017-02-13T17:55:44+00:00

I'm half black and if I have a daughter there's no chance I'd want my daughter fucking with black boys are you mad. Look at it from their point of view, all they want is for their daughter to date a nice guy who is going to protect and take care of her needs, now look at "black" or hiphop culture which essentially treats women the opposite of that.

Black guys are obviously going to follow this culture because it gets them more pussy, I have to follow this culture to get laid too its sad.

That being said whenever ive been to a girls yard and their dads been home they've all treated me with respect apart from 1 but I don't blame the man tbh, just look at how us black and mixed race boys treat white girls, for some reason they love it.

blackdoginside · 2017-02-13T23:53:41+00:00

Reading all those racists posts out there it's clear that many of us misunderstood what TRP is meant to be. Instead of becoming better men, they are wasting their time trying to find excuses to give up working themselves claiming they, by being "superior" to black man, need to work no further.

I find funny how they always begin their texts saying that black men are "stealing" white women from them. Not only envy is seen from those posts, but also a form of oneitis too, as they simply can't accept some women, specially those they love, as BP man, prefer the black alpha man. They simply can't move on to the next women.

They don't even need to check sources and study what they are claiming. Every time someone mentions "black dude something", they come with the same biased researches and extrapolating conclusions about genetics they don't even understand, even the same broken links.

That's sad. It shows us how immature many of us are.

Skyyacht · Mon Feb 13 22:33:39 2017 UTC

It's because the ones with true power, the elites, continue to push the Identity War as a way to distract the masses from the real conflict, the Class War.

Full disclosure, I consider myself mostly conservative, but I do acknowledge that fundamentally this is what is going on.

JohnnyRaz · 2017-02-13T20:50:33+00:00

Stopped reading after "as a black man". How could you possibly tell us why we do something? I could elaborate in detail exactly as to why things are the way they are but I doubt you would believe me or absorb the info anyway.

1v1crown · 2017-02-13T16:34:12+00:00

Welp... not having kids. Thanks for reenforcing that for me.

aboutarookie · 2017-02-14T00:22:38+00:00

Weird racist mind, idk if your white or black. If your white, you sound like a self hating white man. If your black, you sound like you think white men are below you. White dads don't want their daughter dating black men because we want our grandkids to look like us. We don't want our grandkids black. TBH, this post is super Beta.

mismm · 2017-02-14T02:23:55+00:00

It's impossible to deny that whites and blacks are in conpletely opposite ends of the spectrum in terms of how different we look.

You have to ask, with so many different colors between white and black, why would a white woman go for the most extreme when people in general tend to gravitate towards people who look similar to them and their family?

That's why white fathers hate when their daughters date a black man. It offends them on personal level. Something must have gone wrong in their growing up for that to happen.

Gumpool · 2017-02-14T11:22:20+00:00

Isnt this supposed to be called red pill but the elephant in the room never gets discussed

Stay blue pill guys

ellen_pao · 2017-03-02T03:56:56+00:00

I am so happy i unsubscribed from this sub.

Vile racist and eurocentric white sausage party

sonicdrumm80 · 2017-02-13T17:52:36+00:00

I grew up in the south, not the deep south, but the south nonetheless. My Father and Mother raised my three sisters and me with the idea in mind that races shouldn't mix. I am the oldest of my siblings, I listened to their advice and didn't get involved with black chicks. The oldest of my sisters and the youngest of my sisters both decided to stray from my Fathers warning. Both ended up with Herpes and Gonorrhea. They did go after a specific type of black man, football players. In the end both have consequences to live with, the youngest one moreso, she got pregnant after the 7th dude she fucked in a 3 month period. I love the little guy like he was my own son. He had no choice in this matter. Mixing races isn't a bad thing, but there are definitely stigmas attached to it. My Dad specifically stated that he had no problem with an exceptional black man dating his daughters, the only problem was that he never met an exceptional black man. Basically, he wouldn't rule the possibility out, but it would require an act of God to change his mind.

imakepostsonreddit · 2017-02-13T19:19:05+00:00

The reality here in the USA is that no one likes it when white women, especially the attractive ones, go interracial. While black guys undoubtedly get hate for it, the hate is even worse and out in the open when the guy is of other minority groups like Asian, Hispanic (non-white), and any kind of brown (especially these days with what has been going on in the news). Not just white men themselves who hate these sorts of interracial couples, women of color hate them even more.

I feel like there is an unwritten rule in American society where white men can date and hook up good looking women of minority groups and no one will say a thing but if minorities date attractive white women, everyone loses their shit. A part of it is shown in the media too where they can show white guys with women of color anytime in movies but if they show a handsome Korean guy making out with a pretty blonde, everyone goes berserk.

Even the media is set up, no matter how liberal they may claim to be, to stop interracial romance from happening between white women and most minority groups.

I've known beautiful white European women who were open minded, moved to the USA, started dating a minority (in some cases a brown or asian guy), and the hate they received was eye opening.

All of this is part of the reason why it is so rare to see beautiful white women go for minorities in the USA, especially of the non-black variety. The underlying hate in American society towards white women going interracial is probably worse than it is anywhere else in the world. I found that in Europe, it was less of an issue about race and more about SMV.

StarBeastTheSecond · 2017-02-13T18:47:09+00:00

I'm married to a woman of Sri-Lankan heritage. She is brown as a mother fucker and my Celtic skin can't handle a cloudy day.

Not one white person has said anything. My family like her and her family like me.

But... If we go into a corner shop (7/11 for you yanks) the Asian men look at me with Medusa eyes. If they happen to be Indian, I can almost see their red dot charging up for a laser blast.

The girls, however, are either indifferent or look at her with envy.

I guess it's a tribal thing with men. Kind of territorial.

But it is down to the father. Daddy issues are a major thing for women. My wife doesn't speak to hers and hates any man from any culture even remotely close to hers. And if you look at white women with black men, there's always a story.

The thing about black women is different, though. White women don't get mad if a white guy dates a black girl. It's because black women are considered unattractive by a lot of people. Couple that with a cultural confidence and the term "queen" and you have a bunch of black women who are jealous and confused.

use4356n · 2017-02-14T09:57:36+00:00

Men of ANY race do NOT want their daughters to date blacks.

This is not a uniquely white thing, I'm hispanic and my family would give me shit if i ever dated a black.

And if I had a daughter, I would go to great heights to make sure she does not date a black.

Here's a truth that the MSM and pop culture try to suppress:

Blacks are VERY ugly, they have shitty hair, they have giant lips, beady little eyes, massive noses. There is nothing aesthetically beautiful about them which is why their women try to look as white as possible, and why the pop culture essentially has to sell mulattoes as the standard negro.

Not to long ago there was data from OkCupid that showed that black males were at the bottom of the desirability totem pole. Nobody except trashy people of either race wants to date a black male, or even female.

There is no race that will generally be okay with mixing with blacks, and I've only touched upon their aesthetics, when you get into their nature, that opens a can of worms. While black males might be able to put on a face of masculinity, they are in general not intelligent enough to FULFILL the face of masculinity. Which is what builds advanced civilizations. Black males are not intelligent enough to lead, which is why their countries always go to shit.

Nothing is more alpha than a leader, blacks are shitty leaders.

Ergo, breeding with blacks is dysgenic for just about any race on the planet.

OP, you're not going to find peace going interracial, because it's not healthy for any race to mingle with yours, you present a threat to just about everyone, and if you want a war, you're going to get it. Because this is essentially a war for the eggs. It's perfectly rational for every race to defend itself from your corruption, few people want mutt babies of sub-optimal intelligence. This is a shitty pill to swallow, but I hope its one that can push you to stick to your own kind.

Coluphid · 2017-02-13T14:44:56+00:00

Frankly I'd be more concerned about the low IQ, genetically violent tendencies and massive rates of STDs in blacks.

Not to mention the large genetic gap between the subspecies.

And for anyone about to cry 'Das Racist!' you'll need to take it up with the following world class scientific institutions

Race-mixing is a cause and and contribution to various health issues http://home.uchicago.edu/~tholt/racemixing2003.doc

http://www.scribd.com/doc/84235846/Three-Effects-of-Outbreeding

http://www.counter-currents.com/2010/09/miscegenation-the-morality-of-death/

http://majorityrights.com/weblog/comments/genetic_structure_and_outbreeding_depression

Mixedrace children suffer from more health problems: http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC1448064/

http://www.unc.edu/news/archives/oct03/udry10302003.html

http://majorityrights.com/weblog/comments/the_health_consequences_of_race_mixing/

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/16282974

http://genomebiology.com/2009/10/12/R141/table/T1

http://www.time.com/time/health/article/0,8599,1993074,00.html

http://www.nwfsc.noaa.gov/publications/techmemos/tm30/tm30.html

http://t1nyurl.com/6tr9e6t

http://www.jstor.org/pss/1537084

Because intelligence is by far the most important thing and the washes of Africans and hispanics would dumb the result down to about 90 IQ or lower. Because whites are the only ones voting right wing. Because whites have the right genes for creating greatness. And, you know, not wanting to be eradicated from the face of the earth is also pretty appealing

Human intelligence up to 75% inheritible http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/science/science-news/12061787/Intelligence-genes-discovered-by-scientists.html http://www.nature.com/mp/journal/v16/n10/abs/mp201185a.html

Scientific consensus is that IQ tests are not racially biased. http://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0160289608000305

Very poor Whites are comparably intelligent to very wealthy blacks. http://www.jbhe.com/features/49_college_admissions-test.html

Black children raised in White households have similar IQs to black children in black households. http://psycnet.apa.org/psycinfo/1977-07996-001

The average African IQ is estimated at 79. http://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0191886912003741

The average African-American IQ is 85, compared to the average White IQ of 100. http://www.udel.edu/educ/gottfredson/reprints/1997mainstream.pdf

The white-black gap in SAT scores, a proxy for IQ, is increasing. http://www.jbhe.com/features/49_college_admissions-test.html

Genes for large brains, linked to high IQ, are common everywhere except Africa. http://www.wsj.com/articles/SB115040765329081636

Intelligence has at least a 40-50% genetic basis. http://articles.latimes.com/2011/aug/10/news/la-heb-genetic-study-intelligence-20110809

IQ scores are the best predictor of success in Western society. http://psychology.uwo.ca/faculty/rushtonpdfs/PPPL1.pdf

IQ is 75% heritable among Whites. http://psychology.uwo.ca/faculty/rushtonpdfs/PPPL1.pdf

Degener0 · 2017-02-13T21:44:04+00:00

Generally speaking, people do not like lower status people. People judge by stereotypes upon first perception. Clothes, posture, mannerisms, hygiene, fitness are the first things anyone notice. It does not matter what race they are, if they are ghetto/hood/trailer trash then parents will have immediate resistance as they do not want their offspring to regress in life.

People have not evolved out of tribalism. Globalism and progressivism has clearly not done so. But, you can always sway people's first impression and subsequent ones by suaveness and class, particularly through use of 48 Laws/Art of Seduction by Greene are good for those who date upwards in status.

TheRedStoic · 2017-02-14T11:20:07+00:00

Hmm. Aside from a few, the majority of girls I've had have been white. Usually redheads. A few yellow.

I don't deal with black chicks, mostly because their culture is shit and African Queen syndrome makes them nightmares to tolerate.

But I'd have to say the biggest difference is class. Black women are the least likely to be in the same class as myself and my friends. Cohorts don't mix that well at that extreme a difference.

Didn't notice much about the racism though. I've yet to meet a guy whose happy about you polling his daughter, and I don't know a mom who is honest about much of anything.

I mean I've had a few issues almost exclusively class not color based.

ppvknifefight · 2017-02-14T14:24:52+00:00

The answer is simple. It's Self preservation, primarily.. mixed with misguided notions about how black men are as a whole since we're judged by the underbelly of our community 99% of the time. Dr. Francis Cress Welsing (RIP) taught us that Racism from whites is basically fear of genetic annihilation. Whites are and have already been a global minority, so when you have a bunch of white women sleeping and procreating with blacks, it obviously doesn't fare well for the longevity of the race.

esperanzablanca · 2017-02-15T05:53:19+00:00

I want a grand children that looks like me, thats all, no hate

Snottiesthorse · 2017-06-03T06:56:39+00:00

ew if you're black stay away from the white women

blackedoutfast · 2017-02-13T17:53:48+00:00

part of it is that everyone knows that black dudes are perfectly happy with the girls very bottom of the white barrel. some girls are just total sluts and want black cock, but typically if a white girl is dating black dudes (even high smv AF black dudes) it's almost always because she is a fat, trashy 3 out of 10 who none of the quality white guys want to fuck.

and before anyone accuses me of being a racist, it's the same for white dudes with yellow fever who frequently date ugly asian girls. if a girl is already high-smv within her race, she won't need to rely on cross-racial fetishization to get a guy with decent smv.

IGoYouStayTwoAutumns · 2017-02-14T02:12:54+00:00

Come to Hollywood, it's all black men dating white women out here. May change at some point in the future, but that's very much what the scene is right now. (In fact, I was out at a well-known diner here in the area a little while back, saw a white couple sitting a few tables down, and I actually pointed it out to my friend, it was THAT unusual. I was like "Wow, hey, look, a white couple! Out in public!!" He actually gave a surprise "Huh!" and we both stared for like 10 seconds, it was that strange, like seeing a unicorn out in the wild).

As to why this is, I can hazard a few guesses:

-- There's an extremely strong push right now in Hollywood (and all media) for the BLACK MAN / WHITE WOMAN dynamic. The new STAR WARS movies, every HBO flagship show, every music video, EVERYTHING is black men with white women. Hollywood will tell you it's in the name of "diversity", don't believe it. The truth is it's because white men have now become so feminized that they just can't pull their weight on camera anymore. No gravitas. Casting directors have been complaining about this for years. It's one of the reasons why, even when we have an American superhero, we have to go to Australia or England to cast him. American (white) men have just become far too girl-y.

-- Black men naturally (I believe) have more of a masculine presence than white men. Again, a lot of this goes back to the fairy tale tropes, the MMBM (the "Mystical Magical Black Man"--the classic black mentor character who helps the white hero tap into his intuition, his mojo--see Morpheus in the Matrix etc), but basically black culture and energy is, generally speaking, more about the bottom chakras (if I can get New Age-y for a sec), while Asian culture is all about the top chakras, and white culture seems to be somewhere in the middle. What that translates to is simply: bottom chakras (down near the groin) are about growth, sex, emotion, feeling. THE INDIVIDUAL IS EMPHASIZED (INDEPENDENCE). Top chakras (up towards the head) are all about the intellect, creativity, the spirit. THE COLLECTIVE IS EMPHASIZED (INTERDEPENDENCE). We're all Red Pillers here, tell me gents, what's more attractive to a woman: a guy who THINKS about putting OTHERS FIRST, or a guy who FEELS (AND FUCKS) FOR HIMSELF FIRST? (Obviously there are exceptions to this rule but that's the cultural trope as it stands, and I really do think the general energy dynamic tends to bear that out, as stereotyping as it may seem).

-- Black men sexualize the frame IMMEDIATELY. A female friend of mine (very cute white girl) works at a bar on the same block as my building, bar has a huge black clientele (we actually think the whole thing is a money laundering operation but that's another story). Every black guy who walks in (which is every guy) walks right up to her and says "You ever been with a black man before??" FIRST WORDS OUT OF THEIR MOUTHS. NO EXCEPTIONS. She even has a comedy bit about it. (She retorts: "I don't know, you ever been with a BLACK GIRL before??" ZING!!) White guys will beat around the bush, work their covert contracts, tell the girl "Let's go out sometime, let's work on this project together, let's do a shoot together..." etc etc. Black guys: "Wanna fuck?" Right out of the gate.

-- With black men, there is no Beta Bucks. I have a few black male friends, they're all pretty well off, not a one would every spend ONE FUCKING PENNY on a chick that he wasn't already fucking. Hard. All the time. And even if they are fucking, I still don't think they spend any money at all. It's strictly "Come over, let's fuck." That's it. It's Alpha Fucks from beginning to end. Beta doesn't exist in their mindset.

-- In Hollywood Gangsta Rap and Rap culture in general (fashion etc) is pedestalized, and obviously black men pull this off better than white men. So if you're a girl and you want to date a guy who's currently a part of the pop cultural zeitgeist, you have to go black.

-- Now that women are up front about their Alpha Fucks requirements, they have no shame in saying, out loud, "Black men have bigger muscles and bigger dicks, that's what I want, that's what I'm going for." I know quite a few white girls who EXCLUSIVELY date black men for exactly these reasons (I use the word "date" loosely here, the reality is they are of course members of a black man's harem). Don't know about the genetic reality of all that, but that's the female take as it stands.

-- All the white guys are becoming more and more girl-ish with each passing day. And the girls are becoming more boy-ish. There's no more sexual polarity, hence no more attraction. I'm a pretty manly white guy (I hope) but even I am finding it harder and harder to muster up any attraction for most white girls these days. (The half-shaved heads, the tatts, the pierings, the purple hair...) Black men, however, because their masculine energy is more "pumped up" (from all of the above) find more attraction with white girls, and of course this is a 2-way street.

And so on. Point is, if I was a white girl living in LA and looking around at all the soft, pasty white guys waddling around, with their ridiculous man buns and feminsit / SJW causes and all the rest of it, clearly attempting to pull off their covert contracts, and then a good looking black dude rolled up and, with blazing confidence, came out and said "Hey, you're fine, let's go back to my place..."--I'd probably go for the black dude too. It's just how the sexual marketplace is right now. White men have become too feminized and only black men are left to carry the masculine torch. (It doesn't help that the mainstream media is pushing this with everything they have.)

And yeah, as for the diversity thing: as someone who works in Hollywood, I'll believe it when I see a movie or a TV show starring an ASIAN MAN dating (and fucking, hard) a BLACK WOMAN (in fact, hell, maybe I should write that script and pass it around town, see if I can force the SJWs to get it produced in the name of Diversity, wouldn't that be hilarious...). Until then, I call it what it is: pop culture pedestalizing black culture as the last bastion of masculine energy.

okkyle · 2017-02-13T21:21:11+00:00

Two reasons:

Men are wired to have more tribal loyalty than women, and men are the protectors. Add these two instincts together and you get men - not just white men btw this happens in every race/country around the world - who guard and shame their women for dating outside the tribe(dating outside your tribe in Muslim and African countries can even get women killed)
Black men in particular are generally a bad choice for white women. A white woman having a child w/black man has a 92% chance of being a single mom. African American blacks have an average IQ of 85 compared to whites' 100, so by starting a family with a black man, the white woman is dooming her child to a low IQ which will hurt that child's chances of success throughout life. Black men are far more likely to have STD's and criminal records than white men.

Tribal loyalty aside, black men are objectively a bad deal for white girls, therefore white fathers are perfectly rational to pressure their daughters to avoid them.

EssencialToLife · 2017-02-13T23:41:23+00:00

The redpill truth. You wont like it.

African blacks have a median IQ of 70. If my daughter has a mixed race kid chances are it will be well below the median white IQ of 100. I do not want stupid grandchildren. I wont accept a black son-in-law. Not on my watch.

https://static.iq-research.info/20150809/img/iq_by_country.png

Rommel0502 · 2017-02-13T15:46:51+00:00

I think you're barking up the wrong tree. IMO, all other things being equal different races are attracted to each other because of genetic reasons.

TRP suggests that women fuck Alpha men to get the fittest seed to produce the best and most healthy offspring. You can extrapolate this to races when you consider most genetic diseases are recessive. That means mating with a person with a very different genetic profile than you will result in a lower probability of a genetic disease being passed on. Ie, healthier offspring.

Taken to the extreme on the other side, its also why we are naturally repulsed by having sex with close familial relations. I recall seeing a study where they took mens shirts after working out and put them into bell jars and had women smell them and rate attraction on just smell. What they didn't tell one woman is one of the shirts belonged to her brother. When she smelled that shirt - she threw up. Genetic profile just too close, and her body immediately recognized it.

NietzscheExplosion · 2017-02-13T18:01:39+00:00

Mudsharks? Give yourself some credit. Sometimes its nothing about race...

TheSlicemanCometh · 2017-02-14T00:41:59+00:00

White girls dont go for black guys.

FAT white girls go for black guys. Important distinction.

The least desirable white girls who cant get any action go for the black guys to get dick cuz they are always willing to bone anything with two legs. Its an easy win for them.

White fathers dont want their daughters going with black men for multiple reasons.

First being, the same reasons most hookers dont accept black customers. Because they are way more likely to get beaten the fuck up, raped, and experience all other manner of abuse.

Second being, its their biological imperative for their offspring to marry up not down in terms of wealth, intelligence, and physicality to produce better grandkids, not worse.

A white girl breeding with a black man is breeding down in terms of wealth, in terms of IQ (yes, there is a racial IQ gap, look it up), and in terms of social standing.

Its literally nothing but losses for the white father.

Sorry to sound harsh but you wanted to make this thread so I had to take it there.

2017-02-14T02:11:53+00:00

I don't think you should take it personally. It's not that people want their children to find a copy of themselves to date but rather it's about the perpetuation of your people. There is nothing wrong with that. Not everyone is into this whole mixing of various cultures and ethnic groups. It results in descendants that don't represent their ancestors. After generations upon generations of this you end up with a country of people with the same skin tone, no real heritage, and it destroys diversity at the same time. If you love whites and whites love blacks than it is best for them to remain separate so that generations upon generations down the road the unique diversity that is so great in this world is maintained. You see, this isn't something that you should find offensive and it isn't necessarily for reasons that you stated. Most people desire the perpetuation of their people.

Lsegundo · 2017-02-14T15:23:51+00:00

Because its TRP I get to say whatever the fuck I want. In no particular order "mud sharks" (OPs term) could:

be fat train wrecks with drug problems
rebellious feminists
have met a great black guy
grew up in the hood
tired of the pathetic BP that seems more prevalent in whites than blacks

Narmer88 · 2017-02-14T17:06:49+00:00

Back male culture is automatically assumed to be one of aggression, from rap music, to the myth of a natural physical inclination. In a age of waning masculinity this is automatically attractive on a primal level because in the past the were indicators of fitness (ability to protect and provide).

Being black it assumed that you are more masculine which attractives CC riders especially those young and dumb ones.

Contrastingly, we have the highest amount of single mothers, the highest incarceration rate, the lowest amount of secondary education and hence income.

Basically, from dating a black guy from a cultural standpoint is a huge risk. He's afraid your going to knock up and leave his daughter which would greatly lower both their social values and essentiallly turn him into a cuck. It concerns him that he raised a daughter so oblivious (stupid) to market value that she preferes high-risk short game over long-time.

From, your mother's standpoint of view she associates all African American women which herself and, looks at your rejection as a personal favor (some Oedipus complex shit).

My advice is focus on cultivating your smv to the point that you easily trample concepts of culture.

I've always been more interested in making mudsharks than dating mudsharks.

Original_Dankster · 2017-02-14T19:07:40+00:00

if she has a mixed baby with the dude it makes her equally radioactive

I am white (mostly, people assume I'm all white).

I know a very cute, very charismatic white single mom, with a half-black kid. The father was African (not African-American). But even in my blue-pill days, when I was still willing to date single mothers, I still refused to date her.

I did some introspection, and realized that I would never be regarded as that kid's father, by friends, family, acquaintances, even passers-by and strangers. It's visually obvious that I'm a cuckold in that case.

Whereas if the kid looked like me, I would have been more open to it. This isn't a problem with black, or mixed race - if the woman was black and had a mixed-race kid with a white guy, I'd be ok with it. In other words, the father had to be the same race as me, the woman's race was irrelevant.

Well - I was ok with it at one point, not anymore. I won't date any single mom whatsoever, race of the father not even a factor.

Know_What_Fvck_This · 2017-05-20T01:40:09+00:00

This is why I couldn't care less if every last white male died

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TheTyke · 2017-07-26T03:20:26+00:00

This is somewhat old but I never thought about this but it makes sense. They are basically choosing someone who looks very different from their "own".

What's funny though, is that it's also very possible that they are choosing someone who's personality is similar to that of their parent's. If you have a loving and great parent and meet a similar man/woman, but who looks different, then you're still doing the same thing of finding a partner who is similar to your parent but they just happen to look different.

Wewuzgoyim · 2017-02-13T23:21:00+00:00

Race mixing is so fucking degenerate, it should be banned

Wewuzgoyim · 2017-02-13T23:20:00+00:00

Facts from the FBI and Department of Justice on blacks in America: • Blacks commit 56% of all robberies, 53% of all murders, and 1 in 3 rapes, all while making up less than 13% of the US population. Source: FBI Crime Statistics, table 43 • As of 2008, young black men kill 7 times more often than young white men. Source: Homicide Trends in the United States, 1980-2008 Annual Rates for 2009 and 2010, page 11 • 42% of all cop killers are black. Source: Law Enforcement Officers Feloniously Killed, Race and Sex of Known Offender, 2004–2013 • 93% of black homicide victims are killed by other blacks. Source: Black Victims of Violent Crime, page 3 • 14,000 interracial rapes take place a year, and 99.9% are black men raping white women. Source: Criminal Victimization in the United States, 2007 Statistical Tables • In 2013, blacks made up nearly 38% of the total prison population, despite being only 13% of the general population. Source: Jail Inmates, Midyear 2013, Statistical Tables • Blacks are more likely to have a gene that causes violence. Source: The 2-repeat allele of the MAOA gene confers an increased risk for shooting and stabbing behaviors • The poorest whites are less likely to go to prison than rich blacks. Source: Race, Wealth and Incarceration: Results from the National Longitudinal Survey of Youth • There is no racial discrimination in the justice system. Blacks just commit more crime because of their low intelligence and high propensity for violence. Source: No evidence of racial discrimination in criminal justice processing: Results from the National Longitudinal Study of Adolescent Health

Facts on the family dynamics and education achievement of blacks in America: • 73% of black babies are born out of wedlock. Source: National Vital Statistics Reports Births, 2010 • In 2012, the mean SAT critical reading score for college accepted students was 428 for blacks and 527 for whites. For mathematics, it was 428 for blacks and 536 for whites. For writing, it was 417 for blacks and 515 for whites. Source: National Center for Education Statistics • The racial gap on the SAT is so large that the poorest white children, from families that earn less than $20,000 a year, do better than the wealthiest blacks, from families that earn 200,000 a year or more. Source: Journal of Blacks in Higher Education • 67% of black children grow up without a father, compared to 25% for whites and only 17% for Asians. Source: US Census surveys and National Kid Count • At both the fourth grade and eighth grade level, there is an achievement gap between whites and blacks in both mathematics test scores and reading test scores in every state. Source: How Black and White Students in Public Schools Perform on the National Assessment of Educational Progress • Gonorrhea rates are 30 times higher in blacks than in whites. 48 percent of black women are infected with genital herpes. Source: CDC

Facts on the intelligence levels of blacks in America and around the world: • Blacks have an average IQ of just 85, while white people have an average IQ of 100. Africans have an even lower average IQ score of 70-75. Higher IQ is a factor in causing people to not commit crime, to live longer and healthier lives, to earn more money, to perform better at every type of job, and to make better decisions. Source: Intelligence Predicts Health and Longevity, but Why? • In a 2013 survey of top IQ researchers, 83% said that Africans were the least intelligent race in the world because of their genes. Source: Survey of Expert Opinion on Intelligence: Causes of International Differences in Cognitive Ability Tests

For people who claim that blacks' poor IQ scores are caused by poverty: • In 1976, Harvard psychologists looked at how black children adopted by upper-middle class white American families performed on IQ tests. Black children adopted by white parents averaged 89 on IQ tests at age 17 (slightly better than the 85 average for blacks nationally). Since the black children grew up in white families with good socioeconomic conditions, only genetics can account for their low IQ scores. Regardless of wealth or environment, the racial IQ gap remains. Source: The Science of Mental Ability, pages 483-489

What if IQ tests are biased against blacks? • There are IQ tests like the Raven's Progressive Matrices which don't have any language or words and rely entirely on visual pattern recognition. Even then there is a marked difference between black and white IQ scores, not only in America but internationally as well. In fact, the Black-White IQ gap has been observed in South Africa, the Netherlands, Canada, and many other nations around the world. Source: Jensen Effects among African, Indian, and White engineering students in South Africa on Raven’s Standard Progressive Matrices

For people who say that race differences in IQ are just "white supremacy": • IQ tests made by white people reliably show that East Asian countries have the highest IQ scores. African countries have on average the lowest. European countries are between the Asian and African countries, but are uniformly much closer to East Asia than to Africa. Source: Race and IQ: A Theory-Based Review of the Research in Richard Nisbett’s Intelligence and How to Get It

IQ differences become more important at higher IQ levels: • Overall, 18% of Asians have an IQ over 120, 10% of whites do and only 1% of blacks. Nearly 84% of blacks have an IQ below 100, which is slightly below the average IQ for whites. The ratio of white Americans to black Americans who have an IQ over 125 is 30:1. Source: Thirty Years of Research on Race Differences in Cognitive Ability

Blacks' low IQ scores is linked to their criminality: • The average American criminal has an IQ 85, which is the exact same IQ score as the average black. Source: 21st Century Criminology: A Reference Handbook

What academics have to say about black intelligence in their own words: From the peer-reviewed paper The Totality of Available Evidence Shows the Race IQ Gap Still Remains: The average IQ for African Americans was lower than those for Latino, White, Asian, and Jewish Americans (85, 89, 103, 106, and 113, respectively. Our review of the literature shows that Black-White IQ differences in the United States have remained at 15 to 18 points, or 1.1 standard deviations, for nearly a century. From the peer-reviewed paper Thirty Years of Research on Race Differences in Cognitive Ability: The IQ gap between blacks and whites in the United States—15-17 points—has not changed since it was first measured nearly a century ago. Both races’ test scores rose during the century, but the gap remained as large at the end of the century as at the beginning despite considerable social change. For those looking to pin the lower IQ scores of blacks on poverty, IQ is largely genetic. From the peer-reviewed paper Genetics and intelligence differences: five special findings: Some evidence suggests that heritability might increase to as much as 80% in later adulthood but then decline to about 60% after age 80. Why does IQ matter? From the article Social Consequences of Group Differences in Cognitive Ability: Thousands of studies have looked at the impact of mental abilities on school and job performance, and large national longitudinal studies in both Europe and the United States have shown that IQ is related to various forms of socioeconomic success and failure.

RedEyesBlueShades · 2017-02-13T23:49:29+00:00

This sounds extremely US centric. And, quite frankly, retarded. Not saying your experience is wrong or anything, just find this attitude seriously retarded.

I'm white, and I also don't have kids. Trust me when I tell you that I could care fucking less about the colour of the skin of the guy my daughter would be dating. (That is, if I'll ever have kids.)

I'll tell you more. I do believe in genetic mixing. Mixing the genetics is the only way to healthier/stronger/more beautiful humans. You don't believe me? Look at the Jewish communities, and the Brits. None are known for their physical prowess or attractiveness. To the contrary, both are often studied when investigating inbreeding and associated problems.

Umbrifer · 2017-02-13T18:52:20+00:00

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GetWithThePogrom · 2017-02-13T22:18:58+00:00

Personally, as a white father, I would absolutely categorically refuse to allow my daughter to date outside my race. You wouldn't want to marry a girl who had a strong chance of passing on low quality genes, like a huge predisposition for congenital heart defects, for example, would you?

White father's don't want their daughters making the mistake of having children that will have lower IQs. Even if you personally are a genius, the genes you carry are more likely to produce substandard children.

Blacks just have low quality genes, period. It's nothing personal, it's just a fact of life.

BlitzGo · 2017-02-14T02:04:31+00:00

I'm also a black guy who dates other women of different ethnicities.

I LOVE women with melanin too but I have a thing for cute white hipster chicks with booty. They're so adorable!

I live in California and we're super diverse and seeing interracial couples is common for me... BUT when ever I go to house parties I am approached by white ladies and usually it's the white guys who toss heat more than the women.

My parents also pester me and my interests in potentially dating women who aren't brown.

It's so silly.

sunkindonut149 · 2017-02-13T21:43:06+00:00

Because people are salty assholes and racism comes from a Stone Age impulse to mate guard. It's fuckin stupid. People are still racist because civil rights has only been going on for 50 years.

fenghsui · 2017-02-13T15:28:59+00:00

Donovan Sharpe, a legend in his own time. That part where you discussed your mother on the podcast with O'Shay shall live in my mind forever in infamy. Def some insightful food for thought. Gotta admit, though, I was surprised that you are black.

Stythe · 2017-02-13T19:19:39+00:00

It's neat to me. I have a plate who's Jamaican/ guyanese and she plays her role very well. She wants a relationship ship, I've told her I'm not about it, but I give her a more passionate time when I see her than I do others. I can see through her guise, amd she's admitted it's a "role" but I'm still more impressed with her attitude and her patience and determination than any other plate I've had thus far.

White girls on the other hand have proven incredibly bad.

sonicdrumm80 · 2017-02-14T01:25:58+00:00

Fair point. I personally have no issues with it as it all depends on the person, generally speaking my paternal grandfather felt the same as you.

victor_knight · 2017-02-14T02:02:35+00:00

This might help explain why.

clint_bronson · 2017-02-14T12:37:14+00:00

My grandfather was black, actually mulatto, but so is obama and everyone calls him black. Though my grandfather had more white facial features, the only thing that gave it away was his darker tone and curly hair. He married a white woman, and my mother married a white man, you could never tell i had black ancestry, if i ended up in jail i would be part of the aryan brotherhood.

I personally, would never date a white girl who dated a black guy, maybe if he was a younger sidinier poitier...but even then. Girls i met that dated black guys were all whores. The only girls i would date that have dated black men, are, black girls.

funny story, i had a friend who was half white/black, and so was his mother and grandmother, i guess his grandmother married a white guy and his mother a half white/black guy, so you could tell my friend had African roots. Anyway as a green eyed mulatto his the prize for any black girl, and he only dates black girls, his grandmother and mother hate it. They once told him that he should marry a white girl, because if he didn't his grandmother and mother "purified" the gene pool for nothing. Crazy shit.

0xdada · 2017-02-14T14:07:48+00:00

Interested in what makes girls who date black guys radioactive. I know, it's a thing, I think it's like how white guys who date asian chicks become the same kind of radioactive, but what is the articulation of the issue?

4HitmaN7 · 2017-05-22T15:10:57+00:00

To be honest Many white girls date Black dudes though they are unattractive cause they dont want to be called racist :/

godfatherchimp · 2017-02-14T00:43:19+00:00

Interesting perspective, I never thought about it that way but it makes sense.

If I ever have a daughter, I want her to reproduce with the best genetics she can get because then that means my genetics are more likely to survive and be passed on as well. If the best she can get is black then that's just fine with me.

I care infinitely more about whether she is a slut or not. Of course I'd want her to be LTR material.

BlitzGo · 2017-02-14T02:31:51+00:00

Why do black people, especially athletes.... get so much poo tang in college?

OFF TOPIC - I seen a comment about anti blackness in asian communities and I just want to say, I've been to Asia and women were all over me, literally.

awalt_cupcake · 2017-02-13T19:41:35+00:00

Blacks have more testosterone and are bigger in mass than their white peers. Commentors say blacks have lower IQ. IQ isn't everything though.

Why white men hate when their daughters date black guys.

Comments

Vile racist and eurocentric white sausage party

TLDR: minority women are disgusting.

Title	Why white men hate when their daughters date black guys.
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