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Why is the correct answer downvoted? LOL. People are weird sometimes
/r/seduction23/07/26 07:43 PM
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Bro. This is why you feel guilty. You're being dishonest. Just be honest about your intentions. Be honest about dating around. Be honest that this is just casual, and you want to date casual only. Your guilt is not about sleeping around. Your guilt is about misleading. And that guilt is appropriate because you should not mislead people. There are plenty of women that are okay with casual sex, and you don't have to lie or mislead to get casual sex. Frankly, being honest about wanting casual sex w…
/r/seduction23/07/26 07:40 PM
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Not gonna watch the video but I will answer the question: Yes, age matters because women generally have a preference when it comes to a guy's age. And if you are not within that preference, it makes things very difficult, or more likely: Impossible to succeed with that woman. Also keep in mind that while there are typical / common age preferences that many women share, there are many that keep unusual preferences for guys much younger or older than herself. It also depends a bit on the country. …
/r/seduction23/07/26 07:13 PM
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Why do you feel guilty? Are you lying to them? Or not being honest with them / being misleading with your intentions? Or do you just have a shame around casual sex?
/r/seduction23/07/26 07:10 PM
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Stop somewhere and make out with her, and then hope she gives you a BJ. IMO you don't escalate to a blow job. You escalate otherwise, and if the girl is nice - she will give you one. You could also ask, but the thing with BJs is that they don't feel as good when you have to ask for them. It removes the whole validation part.
/r/seduction23/07/26 06:35 PM
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You always get it wrong because you always assume that it's mean spirited. Always assume it's good spirited / well-meaning batner. Because most of the time it is. You'll be correct a lot more just by flipping to this assumption. Besides that, you will ALSO look better. Wrongly assuming it's mean spirited when it's well-meaning, will make you look like a very sensitive or insecure person. But wrongly assuming it's well-meaning when it's actually mean-spirited will often make the teaser look rude …
/r/seduction23/07/26 04:59 PM
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Geez man, yeah you may want to look at actual therapy for that
/r/seduction23/07/26 04:58 PM
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I recommend you listen / read to some books by Brené Brown. She has this idea of "fitting in" versus "showing up". Fitting in: Trying to make people like you. You try to blend in with the group. Obviously, since you're into seduction, you inherently want people to like you and it's natural to want that. The group might accept you, but you're making yourself into a boring sheep / wall-flower with this approach. Showing up: When you show up to the party, you are boldly behaving as yourself and not…
/r/seduction23/07/26 04:44 PM
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Do you worry about saying the wrong thing? Worry about people judging you? Sounds like social anxiety mate. Like low level version. That creates a "block". Stopping yourself from talking, because you want to avoid their judgement if you accidentally say something they don't like. To talk in public openly and freely, you have to have this attitude of not giving a shit about what others think about you, as a person. Stop self-censoring. The people that actually like who you are will stick around. …
/r/seduction23/07/26 02:40 PM
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Your current mindset is "I need something to say". Meaning you see communication as coming from you, and being sent to another person. This is selfish and ego-driven. It prevents you from being a good talker. A good talker thinks in a very different way. They ponder: "what can I learn from this person?" they think about extracting information from others. And they think about cooperation. See the difference? The best way to think about it is that it's not about you. It's not about what you know,…
/r/seduction23/07/26 01:59 PM
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She broke up with you because you're insecure about your own value? Think of the pedestal. That means you put her "value" above you. Correct? And there are two ways you can do that: You can elevate her value in your mind. or You can devalue your own worth. If you fight over boys, bars etc. This tells me that you're probably in category 2. You have devalued yourself. This also is evident when you describe yourself as a "little kid". That is the type of language used by men that devalue themselves…
/r/seduction23/07/26 12:09 PM
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Ahhh, gotcha. So you're still idolizing a woman you used to date? Like those "memory of my dead wife" scenes in movies? Look at why you broke up. That is the "food" to teach your brain to devalue beauty. She was beautiful, but we broke up not because of her beauty but because .... BLABLA reason. Focus on that BLABLA reason intensely and make it bigger in your mind. Much bigger than her beauty.
/r/seduction23/07/26 08:27 AM
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In general a confident man doesn't "make people apologize". But you can call someone out for being an asshole. Just say she's being an asshole and move on quick. Asking about this a long time after it happened shows that you did not move on from it. This is one of this things where you just "block her" and move on. Don't let it ruin your day.
/r/seduction23/07/26 07:42 AM
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You're pedestaling the woman you've been in a relationship with for the past 3 years? I'm confused, because how does that work? Usually when you're together in a long-term relationship: how she treats you becomes way more important. What negative consequences are you experiencing because of this?
/r/seduction23/07/26 07:39 AM
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By seeing them as complete human beings, with flaws. The "pedestal" attitude is connected to objectifying women. You only see the beauty and then you rank her at the top due to her beauty. Ignoring all her other qualities. Usually, this objectifying happens because you're not interacting with the women. You're not talking with them or hanging out with them. You're instead just looking at them from a distance, so the beauty is the only thing you notice.
/r/seduction23/07/26 07:31 AM
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It depends. There's playful banter, teasing. That's all good fun. That's flirting. As long as it's not overdone I don't have any issue with it. I will either tease back or be like "damn, good one! Respect. I have no comeback". But if there's like a hint of disrespect behind it.. like I feel like she actually is getting personal with it, or mean-spirited, or there's some veiled criticism. Then I will usually reject her on the spot. Especially if it's early and we're just getting to know each othe…
/r/seduction23/07/26 06:51 AM
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Try first, ask questions when you fail. You should start with practice. Not theory. Theory comes later. It's second priority.
/r/seduction23/07/26 06:45 AM
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btw. romantic stories aimed at women often feature a similar element. Where she is unsure if he's interested
/r/seduction22/07/26 06:32 PM
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Imagine the movie story goes like this: Man likes woman. She likes him back. And then they get together and are happy. BOOOOO BORRRINNNGG STORY BRO. Why don't you add some problem / tension to your story? Introducing a problem to overcome is part of the basics of good storytelling.
/r/seduction22/07/26 04:56 PM
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It's a good question. Possessiveness is both a pro and a con. Pro: It shows that he is committed to her, dedicated, and protective. Con: He can become controlling and/or violent if she disobeys him or tries to leave. Women balance these pros and cons. And that's why it's sometimes seen as attractive, and sometimes not. This is true both today, and in our ancient human past. Possessiveness is a double-edged sword. You can read brand new "smut" category, sex-novels written by women where the man i…
/r/seduction22/07/26 08:06 AM
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Uncertain level of interest + she probably prefers a slower path to sex. Nothing strange about it... or maybe you're unsure why she accepted going to your house?
/r/seduction21/07/26 02:18 PM
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No, this comes across as very out of touch with the setting. This is NOT a business meeting or a professional networking event. In a well-run speed-dating event, the organizers will pair you up and give one of you the contact info of the other if you both like each other. If they don't have an organized system to facilitate this, then just take your phone out and ask for her number. I mean, it really sucks the organizers don't do a better job, but what can you do at this point. Seems super lame,…
/r/seduction21/07/26 12:07 PM
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Women that care: Those that value superficial status-symbols Women that don't care: Those that don't like or care for superficial status-symbols Women aren't all the same. Some care, some don't, and some will even think it's a turn-off.
/r/seduction21/07/26 07:25 AM
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Maximize looks: Depends what is wrong with your looks Repair reputation: Depends what you did to lose it Have sex with beautiful woman: Ask beautiful women out, and once you're on a date with them - invite them home. Start with that. If you have issues, come back to ask why you failed.
/r/seduction20/07/26 08:54 AM
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Personally, no.
/r/seduction20/07/26 08:46 AM
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Game = Using social skills to seduce someone to sex, or a relationship. Study it = Practice it in real life (most important), read theory and ask for advice (less important)
/r/seduction19/07/26 03:53 PM
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It's true in those places where women have less money than men. Typically. When women make enough money themselves, they tend to look for men that provide other things.
/r/seduction19/07/26 07:45 AM
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My cousin thought your post was OK.
/r/seduction18/07/26 05:01 PM
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I think you need to ask some locals in Africa that know you. I don't know anything about this dating culture, and I don't know anything about you.
/r/seduction18/07/26 04:56 PM
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Those things aren't that important to get consent for, but you can still just ask like "can I hold you hand?" if you're in doubt and want to be super cautious because you aren't getting clear signals one way or the other from her.
/r/seduction18/07/26 04:50 PM
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These are my own go-to statements and questions: Kissing: Lean forward and whisper, "can I kiss you now?" Sex: After making out in the bedroom. I stop her, and ask: What kind of sex do you like? Want to try that? Got anything you don't want to do? How would you stop me if you suddenly felt uncomfortable or pain? Then proceed slowly from there, checking in with her every now and then in as we go - being mindful if I sense any hesitation / freezing / discomfort / auch-sounds / tensing or suddenly …
/r/seduction18/07/26 04:10 PM
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I don't understand your post. You have never been asked by money or a favor by a woman? But have you dated women or not? If you have dated women, but they did not ask for your money. Then I assume they were seeking an authentic relationship. That is what that means. If you have not dated women. Then well, that means you're not trying to date women, don't know how to get women to date you, or you aren't attractive or too picky or whatever.
/r/seduction18/07/26 02:57 PM
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Just use your words man. When in doubt: use verbal consent. Our culture is already moving in that direction. Verbal consent used to be seen as awkward. But now it's like the cool proper thing to do, being pushed by everyone and their grandma. Of course you should still read body language to know when it's likely she wants to get physical. Don't just think you can bypass reading the room. But once you have already read the room - verbally confirm in a suave manner. Choose your words carefully, so…
/r/seduction18/07/26 02:41 PM
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Are you in Spain by any chance? If so, you're breaking the law here.
/r/seduction18/07/26 01:34 PM
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Yeah the beach is also a good bet
/r/seduction18/07/26 01:17 PM
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Yeah, go to the mall. Go on dating-apps. Heck, you can even go to the airport.
/r/seduction18/07/26 12:58 PM
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Brother... don't post video of women that they did clearly not know they were being filmed. And you clearly did not get their consent to post this in a seduction subreddit. You can post what was said / did and how they responded without posting a video exposing them. If you feel like absolutely MUST post a video to show your behavior in context, at least blur their faces.
/r/seduction18/07/26 12:54 PM
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When a decent sized portion of the population is extremely wealthy, it raises women's financial expectations. I've heard it referred to as the "Dubai-ification" of women. Lots of sugar-baby / halfway prostitute relationships. Expecting lavish dinners and being spoiled from the start. I 100% recommend moving, but apart from that: For short-term fun obviously the travelers are a good bet. The massive tourism is a benefit for casual sex. If you want something longer-term, and if you're not weathy y…
/r/seduction18/07/26 12:43 PM
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Basics: Go to all the social events / parties and talk with as many people as is feasible Ask women for their contact info if you vibe Once you have their contact info - ask them out Social status plays: Become the leader of a student organization that also has women in it Join a cool frat house Become the student body president If there's a buddy-system where you can mentor or guide newer students, aim to become such a buddy or mentor If you're good at something, and can volunteer as some kind …
/r/seduction18/07/26 09:01 AM
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It's a double-edged sword. On the one hand, it gives social proof that "other women want you". Which means you're attractive. On the other hand, that can be a negative if you give those women your time and effort. You might be more likely to divert attention away her (the one you want), and she might consider it more likely that you're a player (bad for commitment) or that you will end up cheating on her with one of your attractive female friends. If it it seem like they're into you, and you're …
/r/seduction17/07/26 03:11 PM
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How does preselection/mate choice copying work in recurring environments (gym, cafés, climbing gyms, sports clubs, etc.) where you regularly see the same people? The same as everywhere else. Preselection simply means that they notice or hear that other women find you attractive. If you're trying to build genuine social proof over time, what actually has the biggest effect? Getting earned status at the venue or just in life with your career. At the gym, you have status and social proof if you're …
/r/seduction17/07/26 02:27 PM
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Yes, 100%. Most women want commitment over casual sex most of the time. But almost every woman might be drawn to casual sex at various points in her life. Like when she's recently single. Or her husband doesn't have sex with her anymore. Or she's just young and wants to party and have fun. Think of it as wanting commitment being the default setting, and a desire for casual sex is a temporary mood.
/r/seduction17/07/26 01:37 PM
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I've had it 4 times, all including my ex. Here are some general pointers: It's very difficult / based on luck if you find two women at the same time that want to do a threesome. It happens, but very unusual. It's much easier to find one FWB (or open-minded girlfriend) that is open to threesomes first, and then look for a third "unicorn" together. How I found my open-minded ex: At a university party. How we found the other women: 1 in a hostel in Hawaii (this hostel organized social trips / outin…
/r/seduction17/07/26 08:20 AM
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Do you ask follow-up questions? Take this example: You ask: Where do you see yourself living? She answers: Fort Lauderdale. What do you do now? Do you follow up with a question about why / or what is important to her there? Or do you move on to another question?
/r/seduction17/07/26 07:31 AM
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Why do you think the issue is "chemistry on the first date?" It could be so many other things. First try to identify the issue properly, before you go down the wrong rabbithole. Let's go through what you do on these dates, and after. Tell us how these dates go? What do you do? What do you talk about? One thing that is totally normal is that after the first date, the woman will sit and wait for you to ask her out on another date. If you don't do that, then expect her interest to decrease. This is…
/r/seduction16/07/26 07:54 PM
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You're probably in the wrong place, or aren't giving off a vibe that inspires them to show interest.
/r/seduction16/07/26 07:36 PM
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While it's weird to say, this problem can also be blamed on the newbie learner. Coaches give learners not what they need, but what learners ask for. Because many newbie learners don't understand how learning this stuff works, they ask for the wrong thing - which is what coaches give them. These businesses run on supply and demand, just like any other business. Coaches can only sell something people want. To your point: Many coaches give people a "method", a "blueprint" or some generic advice tha…
/r/seduction16/07/26 01:58 PM
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So many things. Great looks, fit body, make me feel desired, treat me with respect, have a giving / pleasing personality towards me. A calm temper. When you want to bring up an issue you have with me - it's done with respect. Not in a naggy aggressive sudden outburst. Be at least decently intelligent and value intelligence. If your goal is to be like the Kardashians then I lose all interest. Be trustworthy. Only white lies allowed. Live a healthy lifestyle, be caring, and selfless. Look for the …
/r/seduction16/07/26 12:35 PM
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I completely disagree. And that's fine. I believe you, and anyone else can have whatever standards they want. Also super hypocritical ones. The only thing that matters is informed consent. If someone wants to date me, and I want to date them. Then we both give our informed consent. It doesn't matter if we hold each other to completely different standards. As long as those standards are openly discussed and agreed upon between us.
/r/seduction16/07/26 09:12 AM
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You have to believe you're attractive to women who have this feature.
/r/seduction16/07/26 09:03 AM
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Do you think people should only date those who have the exact same positive and negative qualities as they themselves? And if not, are they hypocrites? You are saying a lot of stuff I'm not saying.. Also known as projecting. Some examples: ONE: by people you mean women. No, I mean people. Stop trying to put words in my mouth. TWO: you have explicitly mentioned having no interest in judging women as human beings I have never said this AT ALL. THREE: that fact that you’re gleeful Who said I'm glee…
/r/seduction16/07/26 08:58 AM
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Begin asking them on dates.
/r/seduction16/07/26 07:10 AM
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IMO: The easiest way to create emotional spikes (that also aligns with seduction) is physical escalation to sex. Just escalating itself creates these spikes. Keep your game simple. You already need to be thinking about physical escalation in your game, right? And you want to create emotional spikes too? Well lucky for you: Escalation does that as well, so you get a 2-for-1 combo! Keep your game simple.
/r/seduction16/07/26 06:48 AM
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You would have to ask my girlfriend. I'm currently in a long-term one-sided open relationship where I have sexual adventures, and she doesn't (by her own choice). And yeah, we will probably get married because she wants that. So yes, I very much expect it to happen. There are plenty of women that aren't sexually promiscuous that would date or even marry a sexually promiscuous man. Why they do that? You would have to ask them. I can't speak for them. If I were to guess? There is a lack of good si…
/r/seduction16/07/26 06:19 AM
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You are assuming this woman that becomes my wife will want a lot of "sexual adventures" with other men. Most women that want to date seriously aren't super into that stuff. They want sex with one guy. They aren't into sleeping around a lot. They value commitment above all of that. Therefore, she won't encounter my judgement because there is no reason for me to judge. Your scenario is a super weird hypothethical: First it involves me finding a slut when I want something serious, then it involves …
/r/seduction15/07/26 08:00 PM
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I would just talk to her about sex, and usually she will bring up the reasons for why she's hesitating. Sometimes it can be addressed and sometimes not. As an example: She could be hesitant because "she did not bring condoms". OK, that's a solvable problem. I might have them. Or she might say "I'm worried what our friends would think"... and that's also solvable: We can just agree not to share it with our friends. But she might also say "I don't do that, I'm not into casual stuff". OK, in that c…
/r/seduction15/07/26 06:59 PM
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Yeah. But we're talking about when she is acting interested romantically, but just acting sexually hesitant to not seem slutty. So the interest has to be there for this post to be on topic. If there's just no interest, then yeah - move on. If she seems interested romantically but sexually hesitant - you have to figure out why and what you want to do. Some women want to wait longer before moving to sex for example. So it's not disinterest, but just too soon for her to go there. But you could of c…
/r/seduction15/07/26 06:55 PM
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why are we pretending the Madonna-Whore complex is not extremely prevalent in men? We are not. My post is reaffirming its prevalence in men, and I also have it. Not judging women for being slutty when I also want to be slutty, is honest. I am very clear with these women that I want casual sex. That's when I let the judgement go. Which is contextually based. There is no illusions here that I want to commit to them. So it's not relevant that you bring that up that I'm supposed to "commit to slutty…
/r/seduction15/07/26 06:05 PM
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Yeah you're right that it heavily depends on the setting. In a group setting, or in social circles - those other people's opinions really begin to play a big role. I think it's more on the one-to-one approach or one-to-one date, that their friend's opinions begins to count for less, and your opinion begins to count for more. I will also note though, the phenomenon of group-inspired sluttiness. So it going the complete other way. Some female friends go out and encourage their friends to be more s…
/r/seduction15/07/26 11:40 AM
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Yeah! Both styles can work. I think it's important to find something that jives with your personality. I'm big on non-verbal stuff. I don't flirt too much verbally. It's more with flirty looks, mild teasing, mild touching etc.
/r/seduction15/07/26 11:26 AM
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yeah I do cold approach in daytime from time to time, although it's not my main way to meet women. When I do it, I will typically ask if she knows a good place to get coffee around here, and then invite her for the coffee. So the indirect opener transitions directly into the instant-date situation. It's not exactly weak on intent, because I move it forward to an instant-date right away. How I behave on dates / instant hangouts: Dates last a long time so I can't cover too much detail here or this…
/r/seduction15/07/26 10:54 AM
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Physical escalation is really a case-by-case decision. Some women are very comfortable with physical closeness. You might notice a warm long hug when you first meet her, or when you're walking she walks very close to you or in extreme cases will even lean against you. OK. You have green lights to maybe grab her hand, and hug more when you're out or even kiss if you're in a private location. Other women are very averse to any kind of physical escalation in public. You get a feeling she is uncomfo…
/r/seduction14/07/26 07:32 PM
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You just have to be better than the other guys
/r/seduction14/07/26 03:28 PM
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extroverts are usually more socially confident and will not give you such overt signs of interest. So you have to ask them out with less evidence of interest. Does that make sense?
/r/seduction14/07/26 03:08 PM
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And why can't you date extroverted women?
/r/seduction14/07/26 03:04 PM
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Most people tend to be attracted to those that are similar to themselves. If you are introverted, introverted women will like you more. If you are extroverted, extroverted women will like you more. What issue do you have when you try to seduce extroverted women? You said they give a bro-vibe. But that is just a description of their behavior - not an actual problem for you in terms of seduction. So what is the actual problem you encounter?
/r/seduction14/07/26 02:54 PM
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I don't really want to randomly ask someone I barely know. Why not?
/r/seduction14/07/26 02:46 PM
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By being a bad bitch yourself
/r/seduction14/07/26 12:31 PM
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I have my own method: 1. Safety: As a stranger, you are first evaluated as a potential threat. You have to get her to lower her defences enough to hear you out. That's why I approach with a plausible excuse that is not hitting on her. I go indirect. I try to seem safe and friendly, and like a normal socially capable upstanding guy. That's during the day. If it's night-time I typically approach on dance floor by dancing. 2. Date: I don't flirt much. One of the first things I do is try to get her …
/r/seduction14/07/26 12:14 PM
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Ask her if she had sex before, and what kind of sex she likes. Then tell her you're a virgin and that you would love to try a few things if she's up for it. She's going to ask you what kind of things, and then you can just tell her what you have in mind. She might be down for some of it, or all of it. When sharing that you're a virgin, your frame matters. Your attitude should be that it's the most natural thing in the world to be a virgin, no big deal, and you're 100% confident and relaxed about…
/r/seduction14/07/26 12:06 PM
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I've dated both in Norway and the US (although, in the US it was in SF - which is a liberal bastion), but I've also dated in Asia a bunch (Thailand, India, Philippines). But yeah, most places they don't feel remorse for the idea of being slutty. But I have encountered this attitude when dating in Poland. The thing is too: I seek out sluts and sexually open minded women. They are my target audience when I seek casual sex. Why would I try to bang conservative women that have sexual shame, anti-sex…
/r/seduction14/07/26 06:55 AM
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They have a lot of sexual options. But the options for a serious committed man are often very limited. Tienen muchas opciones sexuales. Pero las opciones para un hombre que busca un compromiso serio suelen ser muy limitadas.
/r/seduction13/07/26 08:29 PM
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Not who you responded to. But you're generalizing that women who do this are "all women". And it's simply not the case. There are a large portion of women that are sexually open-minded and don't feel ashamed to say that they went home with a guy. Some even brag about going home with a certain guy. It is also very culturally dependent.
/r/seduction13/07/26 08:18 PM
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You don't need these excuses, although they can be helpful. I have on many occasions just asked women if they wanted to go home with me if I sense that she is sexually liberal / open minded. I have also straight up asked women during the date what kind of sex they like, like when we're in the bar having a drink. I have also been asked by women if I wanted to go home with them at the end of a date. No excuses, no "plausible deniability". Women with sexual agency 100% exist and there are many of t…
/r/seduction13/07/26 08:10 PM
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No. I use a bit more socially intelligent phrasing than that. You made up those weird sentences. I simply invite her home. No need to say "for sex now" like some weirdo.
/r/seduction13/07/26 07:41 PM
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Good question! A woman "doing it the right way" is happy to go home with you to have sex. She will not say "noo,, maybe noot.. it's getting late" *wink wink* She will just say "sure" when you invite her home. Or she will even propose to back to her place or your place directly. There will not be any performed reluctance. To me, performed reluctance is a bit of a yellow flag that I have to be a bit careful. Because consent can be tricky because of her ambiguous two-faced communication, and she is…
/r/seduction13/07/26 07:36 PM
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I agree in principle, and you're right. But please be aware people that this is a very risky game. These women that OP is describing often experience sexual shame, as well as feeling regret after casual sex. And that can lead to false accusations or just a bad reputation. There's was a case back in the day where this guy's favorite tactic was to get a woman from the club to that nightclub's bathroom and have sex right then and there. Within minutes of meeting her. And this was fine maybe the fir…
/r/seduction13/07/26 07:27 PM
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I have never experienced this. But in general, if a woman is a member of such a group I don't want to date her. Btw. If you discover people are lying about you in the group - check the laws where you live. Because you could in many places sue them. These groups are in many places illegal. You can also try reporting the group to Facebook for being a hate-group or a group breaking the law.
/r/seduction13/07/26 06:52 PM
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You are rejecting yourself because of that belief.
/r/seduction13/07/26 06:38 PM
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What have you tried? If you've tried nothing, it's not over - it means you haven't even started. If you've been trying this stuff consistently for 5 years and you haven't even gotten a date. It's just thousands of rejections. Well then yeah, give up and rely on prostitution for any sexual need.
/r/seduction13/07/26 06:26 PM
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Almost all women find certain celebrities and very high social status attractive. This makes them human. There's not something wrong with them. Men are largely the same way. But some take it to the extreme, where they refuse to date someone that is not a celebrity. And what happens when you try to get with them? They will just reject you - solving the problem on it's own. You don't have to do anything to avoid them. They will avoid you or reject you. Problem solved. Most women, do adjust their r…
/r/seduction13/07/26 04:52 PM
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You asked her LinkedIn and she typed her named in the LinkedIn app. So you got the contact information you asked for. Right? Meeting later: I don't know what you did wrong for that, did you message her on linkedin or what was the follow up? In general, based on your story alone it seems like all the effort was coming from your side. You ask the questions, you talk etc. and she just replies to everything, not showing much engagement other than being pleasant. So maybe her interest and investment …
/r/seduction13/07/26 03:32 PM
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did something go wrong? What went wrong?
/r/seduction13/07/26 03:02 PM
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She's flaky. Most likely just a time waster. As for this situation, I would move on. You could have made some mistakes too. So it's good to reflect. Like your date was... watching UFC.. This seems like it was 100% your plan. And she had no part in that plan. Right? Think about how you can get her invested in the plan. Get her input. If she contributed to the plan, she's more likely to show up for the plan. But like, watching UFC is a very bad date idea UNLESS she is like a hardcore MMA fan (whic…
/r/seduction13/07/26 02:39 PM
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Do you want to get to know them?
/r/seduction13/07/26 02:19 PM
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Correct. Always ask. Always be closing. It's smart to have an excuse / reason for why. So that when her friends ask "why did you go home with him?" she has a ready-to-go answer that you provided. "oh he told me he had a cute cat" or whatever.
/r/seduction13/07/26 01:30 PM
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Any trait or behavior that leads to you having babies is going to be heritable. Survival and replication is the only thing that matters for heritability. There's no ethics involved.
/r/seduction13/07/26 01:10 PM
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Some babies in our human past were made by rapists, and we still have rapists today. So this is basically the same argument as what I was making. Not everything is genetics, but the behaviors you talk about, which could probably be described as a combination of extroversion + narcissism are at least partially heritable. Quick google search: genetic factors accounting for approximately 40% to 60% of extroversion and 35 - 64% of narcissism.
/r/seduction13/07/26 12:54 PM
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Some men are chill guys, some are loud and clog the conversation in an attempt to impress. What does that tell you? It tells you that throughout our human history, women have mated (had babies) with both types of men. And that is why both types of men still persist today. If women only mated with one type, then the other type would be weeded out through evolution. Women have different preferences. They are not all the same. Some like this, and some like that. There are of course some things that…
/r/seduction13/07/26 12:42 PM
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hmmm... from Balcan.. let me guess: You don't smile in any of your photos?
/r/seduction13/07/26 09:03 AM
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Yes of course. Some women will be into you and others won't. Game / seduction is rarely about flipping women from uninterested to interested. It's about seducing women that are already interested, and not messing it up by turning her from interested to disinterested with some blunder.
/r/seduction13/07/26 08:58 AM
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If you stay only in the "now" or focus too much on that, you might feel happy, but you lose motivation and ambition. Because ambition / drive / motivation / dopamine is about focusing on what you can get in the future (what you don't have today). That drive is crucial to accomplish anything.
/r/seduction13/07/26 08:35 AM
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I think it's a big mistake to use some kind of routine for sex. You should ask her what she likes, and communicate what you like. Because what "she likes" is unique to every woman, and everyone has unique boundaries - it's really dumb to just try to do the same stuff with everyone. Try to do what she likes, and ask her if you can do what you like. Hopefully there is enough overlap so both feel satisfied. But communication is key.
/r/seduction13/07/26 08:32 AM
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There are two ways to deal with this in uni: When you are a noob: Use campus primarily to practice your social skills. Limit your attempts only to women that give you signs of interest. You cannot try and fail a lot here, because your reputation will be ruined. To really practice hitting on women - step outside the uni environment. Find other social events going on, use dating-apps, and cold approach. That ensures you get to still practice and improve your skills without ruining your reputation …
/r/seduction13/07/26 08:22 AM
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Specificity matters. Read books about how to become a player if that's what you want. Stay on topic. Reading books that are about other things might have some relevant paragraphs or not. But you're gonna be wasting a lot more of your time. Also, Owen Cook is a doofus who bragged about raping women. He also has a history of other severely questionable behavior. So I frankly don't give a damn about what he thinks or what he advises.
/r/seduction12/07/26 06:32 PM
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All the dudes I know that read this book became total losers. For some time, it seemed like they lost all will and drive to do anything. Luckily some rebounded but that book is not a seduction book. It's more like "how to be a monk".... Also have you seen the author of the book? He is the exact OPPOSITE of a player.
/r/seduction12/07/26 06:02 PM
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Do you get rejected when you try to get her home? Or do you not invite her home at all?
/r/seduction12/07/26 03:57 PM
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Yeah, that's right. Have the courage to be disliked! You can of course change if you agree with the criticism. But don't just accept criticism because it comes from a woman you find attractive. First filter it and see if you agree or disagree. If you think you're simping sometimes, then yeah - work on that. But no need to become toxic or a "bad guy" or something because she happens to be interested in a type of man that is inherently not who you are. I'm not saying to "just be yourself". But lik…
/r/seduction12/07/26 03:48 PM
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Why would you think you're doing things wrong because ONE (and I repeat: ONE) woman doesn't like you? Do you think she speaks for all women? Heck no! She has a very particular taste and seemingly very unusual opinions. Never change because one person doesn't like you. You can consider changing when 10 women tell you the same thing. Until then - ignore and keep on moving. You cannot please everyone, and neither should you try.
/r/seduction12/07/26 03:39 PM
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In that case I would put that under you being short-on-time. So if you're in a hurry like that - go for the direct approach instead. But there are grades to how direct. You don't have to compliment her looks or make it sexual or anything. You could just say "you seem cool, got snapchat?" or something like that.
/r/seduction12/07/26 12:22 PM
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Typically transform into a second excuse / reason for why you should spend some time together. Like an instant date. For example: "okay great. I still have an hour before my friend arrives. Btw do you know a good place to get a coffee around here?" The goal is to transition it into an instant-date / instant casual hangout
/r/seduction12/07/26 12:14 PM
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That's something you can practice. Think about it in terms of excuses / reasons for talking to her. You see someone you want to approach in some kind of a setting, and think to yourself: What is a good reason or excuse for saying something to her in this setting? Begin brainstorming as you walk around in your daily life, and you'll see that it's very difficult to come up with good excuses / reasons to talk to her to begin with. But over time, as you brainstorm more and think about it more - the …
/r/seduction12/07/26 12:07 PM
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Indirect / non-direct is better when you have the time you have low trust (total stranger situation) you don't spot signs of interest before approaching you want to improve your skill of seducing someone you want to maximize your result-per-approach (quality over quantity) Direct is better when: you're short on time you could not come up with an indirect opener you want to practice getting to a close / being more intentional it's higher trust (your good reputation precedes you or it's a safer en…
/r/seduction12/07/26 11:59 AM
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And she "shit tested" you (if you want to call it that) because she doesn't like your behavior. Instead of worrying about how you respond when a woman doesn't like your behavior. Why don't you instead try to act in a way that doesn't make her annoyed or dislike you in the first place? You are walking a fine line between preselection (other women are interested in you) versus looking thirsty (you being into multiple women). Preselection is good. It reflects positively on you that many other women…
/r/seduction11/07/26 06:38 PM
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You're flirting with both women. Why? You'll alienate both of them. This is bad seduction. Pick one target or you'll probably lose both. I don't know if you're dreaming of a threesome but this is not how that typically happens. Life is not a porno. Most women want you to pay attention only to them. Not other women. I don't see it as a shit-test because I don't see "looking at a woman's butt" as a frame that you created to look good or seem high value. What kind of frame staring at another woman'…
/r/seduction11/07/26 06:16 PM
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You can just respond calmly: "Ahh, we're workout friends. I'm just checking her form". Shit test = Questioning your frame. This is not questioning your frame, so not a shit test. This is just her seeing a behavior she doesn't like and calling it out. What does this have to do with seduction, if I may ask? Or are you just always concerned that people will confront you in public for whatever reason?
/r/seduction11/07/26 06:06 PM
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Aren't women desperate for sex also like guys do? On average, men are more desperate for sex than women. Though there are many exceptions. Aren't they alone as guys do? Some are, and some aren't. On average, women have a bigger social circle and more friends than most men. So they are generally less lonely than men. If so then why do they block? ghost? and what not? Because they aren't interested in you, or they already have a boyfriend. They can get their needs met from other men. They don't ha…
/r/seduction11/07/26 12:07 PM
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I feel like you're acting a bit tactless verbally in the sex department. Two things stand out to me from your stories: I said oh you don't like doing stuff on your period right no freaky stuff This is a question coming from a place of insecurity, and includes what is probably a wrong and negative assumption about her sexuality. So I could picture it landing quite badly. Most women enjoy sex on their period with a guy that doesn't judge her for that or makes her feel gross. It's also interesting …
/r/seduction10/07/26 06:22 PM
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Can you answer some questions? I feel like more data is needed. - Where do you meet these women? - Is it "in the cards" that this is just casual fun? - Do you talk about what you both want / are looking for? - Do you discuss exclusivity at some point? Or rules of fidelity? - Does your effort change? Like, do you put in less effort now that you "have them"? - When you talk about insecurities and "open up" so to speak. How does that play out? What kind of insecurities? How do you talk about it? - …
/r/seduction10/07/26 03:46 PM
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But in that case - that is your fault. Not the man's fault. If you want to be approached, look approachable. That is your basic responsibility, and it's frankly a task that is much easier than approaching someone.
/r/seduction09/07/26 07:20 PM
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Yes, you can make good progress going out one night a week. Especially as a beginner. But progress will slow down quickly. So it's good to bump it up to twice a week, where one is daygame. Or some other form of social dating-like training. You can try cold approaching during the day.
/r/seduction09/07/26 03:34 PM
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Any kind of party-atmosphere is usually good. Is there music and a DJ? Good sign. Also check out most kinds of festivals and conventions. Go on Google and search "your city" + "convention" or "your city" + "festival" See what pops up
/r/seduction09/07/26 03:25 PM
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Being a "bad guy" is different from being assertive and confident. So you really need to separate the concepts. But, there are certainly some women that find the bad boy-trope very appealing. And most women go through a period of feeling that way. But it's more like danger=exciting and stimulating, that is the appeal. Just like doing an extreme sport is also exciting and stimulating. It gets the heart racing. It's not that they necessarily want to have children with such a man, or even consider …
/r/seduction09/07/26 01:02 PM
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Chemistry is there with some, and not with others. That is a natural part of dating. But you can save time by video chatting first. If video chat goes poorly, then you don't waste your time going on a date that would not end up in anything anyway. If you meet her, remember to assume attraction from the get-go. When you invite a woman over and she accepts, you assume she is interested and wants to have sex, yes? Assume the same thing when she wants to meet for a drink. No difference in assumption…
/r/seduction09/07/26 12:42 PM
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Yeah, I think just pushing yourself to do it is a good step. It will get better over time. less awkward. And if it's awkward the first 10-20 seconds so what? Not the end of the world
/r/seduction09/07/26 11:56 AM
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That's a sign of a bad venue. When women want to meet new people, they put their phone away and take their headphones off. If everyone is burried in their phone, it's a signal "I'm not here to meet new people". Go somewhere else. You don't have to hit on women in that mall. Like I was recently as an EDM concert / DJ festival thing. Women there were rarely on their phone because they're there to be social.
/r/seduction09/07/26 11:52 AM
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What are you afraid of? the rejection?
/r/seduction09/07/26 11:20 AM
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Your problem is approach anxiety. Here are some ways to improve that: - Start smaller. Like just talking to strangers in general, commenting on what someone is wearing, or asking for directions or local tips. Get comfortable with that before trying something more scary. - You can mentally practice approaching and coming up with openers with your eyes closed at home. Practice breathing slow and deep, and relaxing your muscles so that you get used to imagining that scenario but without getting the…
/r/seduction08/07/26 06:59 PM
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It's not that complicated. Just start by being aware of what is triggering your emotional investment. Why you invest in a woman. And get some control over your own investment by becoming conscious about it. Just by thinking about it, and being aware of it - you are already 90% of the way there. It's not like you have to do something special. Just begin being aware of when and how you invest in women, and for what reason. And notice if you're over-investing, under-investing, or investing appropri…
/r/seduction08/07/26 05:45 PM
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I said "sure" to when you said "there certainly is". I did not mean "sure" to your request to re-write it. I'm not going to rewrite anything. Because this is not a mistake in the post.
/r/seduction08/07/26 07:18 AM
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Why do you think you "played the game right" when you failed? You are NOT supposed to flirt with other women in front of her. Huge mistake. Where did you get the idea that you were supposed to do this? I think maybe it comes from a misunderstanding of preselection? Preselection is when other women want you. It's not when you want other women. Huge difference. Hot-and-cold behavior only works with anxiously attached (insecure) women), if she's not - it will backfire and she will lose interest bec…
/r/seduction08/07/26 07:08 AM
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In the book? Yes, pretty sure
/r/seduction07/07/26 07:03 PM
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Mystery method not really "one method" persé. It's just a bunch of teachings combined from this old school Pick Up Artist guy that calls himself "Mystery." And he called his method "The Mystery Method". But his basic method is nightclub game. There he would use an indirect approach where he pretends he's not interested to begin with. Then he also talks about 3 stages: Attraction (sparking interest by pretending to be a "high value male". High social status "alpha male" essentially, and using Pea…
/r/seduction07/07/26 06:29 PM
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Coffee or drink - then sex.
/r/seduction07/07/26 12:57 PM
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Yeah, I've noticed several cycles. Like a weekly cycle: Monday: Meh Tuesday: Meh Wednesday: Some interest Thursday: BOOOMMM everyone wants to make weekend plans Friday: OK. Saturday: Yes Sunday: Yes Then you have vacation cycles. Some want to date during vacation, some leave the city to travel. Big city-like events also matter. (like let's say Taylor Swift has a concert in your city - it's a massive boom of women coming into the city around that time), and of course weather. Few one to go on dat…
/r/seduction07/07/26 12:31 PM
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Yeah, it's not different mate. It's the same thing we're talking about. There is nothing called "triangular effect". You just made that up. If you want to talk about "triangulation". That is a thing, but it's very different than what you're talking about. It has more to do with conflict management.
/r/seduction07/07/26 07:38 AM
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Sure, but in seduction theory / seduction community, when we talk about "escalation" what we mean is physical escalation.
/r/seduction07/07/26 07:33 AM
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Think international. NYC is very competitive. While the city has more women, the city also has a lot of rich men. Wall street dudes. Same with LA: Wildly competitive landscape. Lots of rich, handsome guys. The ratio of men to women is not that important. It's really overrated how much it matters. What matters far more is the quality of your male competition. Like Latinas? Get on a flight to a Latin country where the men dress kinda meh, and aren't generally known for being rich or handsome. This…
/r/seduction06/07/26 07:02 PM
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I think you're talking about the effects of social status / social proof? If another person likes you that they know - it provides a massive boost in your status and also makes you more trustworthy to them. While this is great, inviting a third person into the mix creates a different problem: Escalation. For that you ideally want to get her alone with you in the bedroom. And if her friend or a third party is tagging along that makes the whole process of getting-to-sex that night more challenging…
/r/seduction06/07/26 06:20 PM
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sure. but there are easier paths to Rome
/r/seduction06/07/26 05:33 PM
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I just said in the post there is no such thing as verbal escalation.
/r/seduction06/07/26 05:32 PM
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How do you know if you're attracting women or not? It's not like women make the first move, generally speaking. I think what your missing is making a move. You're not asking any women out. If you ain't risking rejection, you aren't doing anything.
/r/seduction06/07/26 03:45 PM
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Go on Facebook Events and see what types of social events are happening. Look for those that seem most promising for meeting women and sign up / buy tickets.
/r/seduction06/07/26 03:41 PM
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What have you tried so far? Nothing? Let us know where / how you fail and maybe we can actually give some input. Also understand it's a skill. You have to start at the noob level just like everyone else. You don't just become an NBA all star from day 1. Start trying to bang the uggos / mid options you could feasibly bangg, and move your way up from there gradually
/r/seduction06/07/26 03:29 PM
1

Correct answer. Just like anywhere else.
/r/seduction06/07/26 03:08 PM
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As soon as you're not seen as a threat. People evaluate strangers that approach them in this order: Are they a threat? Are they appealing to me? So when you approach indirect what happens is this: Are they a threat? NO (you went indirect. You probably passed this requirement) Are they appealing to me? UNKNOWN But basically, you hit on them at this point because they have potentially decided they're interested. As soon as you get some kind of positive, or relaxed response (which shows they don't …
/r/seduction06/07/26 09:01 AM
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You are mad at yourself for not approaching. Once you start approaching, you will stop feeling down when other guys do it. This is just one more reason to approach
/r/seduction06/07/26 06:53 AM
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I don't think communicating with women "comes naturally" to any man. It's something everyone has to learn. It's a skill. I think you're combining social skills and self-worth issues in one bubble. Yes, they interact. But they're fundamentally very different things. You can have great social skills, with bad self-worth issues. Some of the best seducers have severe unresolved childhood traumas and self-worth issues. It's good to work on both aspects. So I agree that working on the inner stuff is a…
/r/seduction05/07/26 05:49 PM
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You follow the exact same strategy as a tall guy. There is no difference. 175 cm is not short. It's average.
/r/seduction05/07/26 05:38 PM
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What woman says she wants a masculine man? I hear this obsession about becoming "more masculine" far more from men than I hear women talk about that. If to some you seem boyish, I think they just mean you seem young. Could be due to genetics (babyface), or the way you behave, talk, think etc. Some like that, and some don't. Some women want a man that presents as older or more experienced.
/r/seduction05/07/26 05:33 PM
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Being vulnerable. Talking about deeper topics. Leaving your bag with her while you go to the bathroom. Showing respect for her wishes when she suggests something or expresses a preference. Asking for consent.
/r/seduction05/07/26 05:17 PM
2

Flirting is one way to create comfort. But there are 100s of other ways to create comfort too that are much easier than flirting.
/r/seduction05/07/26 11:57 AM
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I am 100% suggesting skipping flirting for beginners, but I'm not saying to jump straight into physical touch in all situations. You are right that you have to build some comfort and attraction before physically escalating. But this is not something you have to do with flirting. There are many other ways to accomplish that.
/r/seduction05/07/26 11:55 AM
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My general rule is to ask anyone that seems interested, that I'm attracted to. Exception: I will just avoid those that are taken (have boyfriends or husbands) - if there are clear signs of that. And I will generally avoid blending work and dating as much as possible. For store clerks that seem very interested, I will not ask, but just leave my number on a note. It's less intrusive / pushy that way. Many store clerks still want to date customers and are looking for a smooth way to get in touch wi…
/r/seduction05/07/26 08:19 AM
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That's because you haven't done it / haven't seen it done enough. It feels weird, because you have no reference and/or think it's outside the social norm. But among players this is the most natural thing in the world. And women don't see it as strange or weird at all. Just do it many times and it won't feel awkward.
/r/seduction05/07/26 07:53 AM
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You have the time to talk. But that one sentence "hey, can I get your number"... that takes too much time...Can you explain the logic? Also, why can't you do it in front of other people in public? What's the logic there?
/r/seduction05/07/26 07:45 AM
1

Yes
/r/seduction05/07/26 07:45 AM
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It's not my mental rationale. Attachment styles are developed by psychologists. It's a well-known theory. I'm simply relaying the theory. If you don't like it - take it up with the therapists and psychologists. Or make your own alternative model and bless us with your wisdom. Personally, I think the model, while it has some minor flaws, is very good and powerful to explain different behaviors. And there's a very good reason for why it's been popular for many years now. This is not "new hype". At…
/r/seduction04/07/26 08:29 PM
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Avoidants and secure people aren't the same in their behavior. Avoidants will avoid relationships or will ghost / stop communicating / pull away when they're scared. Secure people don't do that. They stay and communicate.
/r/seduction04/07/26 03:31 PM
3

Psychology in Seattle Youtube channel + Booked called "Attached"
/r/seduction04/07/26 03:30 PM
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There are 3 "modes" of attachment. It's somewhat based on your personality: Anxious, Avoidant, Secure. Anxious = Fall for avoidant people and chase them. If you want an anxiously attached person, "detaching" ie. sometimes playing hard-to-get, or using push-pull strategies can be extremely effective. Anxious people are easily coaxed into chasing someone that doesn't seem 100% interested. They're like a rabbit chasing a carrot. Avoidant = Are afraid of getting hurt, being vulnerable, or losing con…
/r/seduction04/07/26 07:56 AM
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I don't see any obvious mistakes. Keep going out and you'll sometimes have some luck on your side. The only thing is probably to invite her home instead asking for a kiss. You already talked about sex - so sex could have been in the cards.
/r/seduction04/07/26 07:05 AM
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I would ask her what that looks like to her. You'll get the most useful and correct answer from her, because hers is the only opinion that matters here.
/r/seduction03/07/26 03:45 PM
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Oh, you're already talking to her for 5 minutes? Well then it should be easy, because she has told you like 20 different things in those 5 minutes. And you can ask questions about any of those things. Follow-up questions are the best questions.
/r/seduction02/07/26 07:11 PM
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I have a bunch of questions I could ask to spark conversation at any point to break the silence. I can just freestyle it at this point, since it's not that hard once you've interacted with strangers a lot. Some basic questions: Family, friends, relationships, goals, dreams, traveling, interests, pets, etc. But I'm also totally comfortable just sitting in silence for a little bit. I think you should learn to do both.
/r/seduction02/07/26 06:56 PM
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If you open with a compliment, chain another opener after it. It helps to have a more coherent plan where you think a bit past the opener. Not too far, but like... where do you want to take the conversation? What is your plan for the first 30 seconds or so. You should have a general outline to serve as a base for freestyling it. Also think about how it can tie in with the type of close you want. Number? Instant date?
/r/seduction02/07/26 06:15 PM
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Appreciate the response! Agreed, moderation is key
/r/seduction02/07/26 05:51 PM
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Try to find places women go to be social. And try to avoid approaching face-to-face. Like, when a woman is walking towards you it's usually not the best scenario. Can still work, but it's better if you pass a woman or walk in front of her, and then open over your shoulder looking behind you. Like let her follow you a little bit first, that usually reduces the feeling of being prey. Or approach her being stationary. Let's say she's waiting for the buss. Pretend you're also waiting, look out. Igno…
/r/seduction02/07/26 05:33 PM
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You are at least out there trying and failing!! Respect, because that is already wayyyy better than a lot of people. For daygame, when women look annoyed, scared or confused - it usually means you triggered their fear response. "Stranger danger", if you will. So your task to solve this is figuring out ways to reduce their fear early on and seem like a safer person. That can be done with what you say, your body language, your tone of voice, your clothing, how you walk towards them, and the settin…
/r/seduction02/07/26 05:17 PM
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Funny pick-up lines are a great inspiration. A good opener is supposed to amuse yourself just as much as you amuse her. As long as you say it in a playful manner - she will not be sure if you're actually hitting on her or just goofing around for your own amusement because you're in a silly mood. That uncertainty is your way in. It helps if the pick-up line is so ridiculous that it can't be taken seriously by anyone. You can freestyle your way from there and come up with your own variations.
/r/seduction02/07/26 04:12 PM
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What kind of approaches come to mind for you? I'm sure you have heard about some pick-up lines or approaches here on the sub or elsewhere in your life.
/r/seduction02/07/26 12:41 PM
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Go out alone more often and it will solve the anxiety part largely just by repeat exposure. What part of your daygame or nightgame needs work? Where do you fail? If you ain't failing, you don't need advice yet.
/r/seduction02/07/26 12:33 PM
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Yeah, but then comes the problem: What part of your game needs working on? You don't know if you aren't trying anything. Maybe your game is already perfect but you have no idea because you never tried. Maybe you're an A-level natural. Learning theory is only a point if you're also out there getting real-world experience. Because that real-world experience is your guide to figure out if advice you hear is good or bad. You can say "that advice aligns with my experience" or "that doesn't align with…
/r/seduction02/07/26 12:28 PM
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Ok, so you want to be personally attacking my credibility. Not arguing any points about indirect versus direct approach. Is that because you have zero arguments? I will leave the discussion here. Ain't got time for people like you
/r/seduction02/07/26 09:02 AM
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What is your point here? You got an argument about direct versus indirect approach? Or are you just going to be personally attacking?
/r/seduction02/07/26 08:57 AM
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I'm an old dude and I used to do a lot of cold approaches before OLD was on mobile apps. Got laid several times from cold approach (unlike most guys). I started game / seduction in 2006. Tinder launched in 2012, and I got on that in 2013 or so. So I had about 7 years of cold approaching before OLD. I still cold approach occasionally, but yeah most are from OLD now because it's just faster / easier for me. Edit: Blocked the dude because he was more interested in attacking me personally, and avoid…
/r/seduction02/07/26 08:52 AM
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The best approach is problem-based learning. It works like this: You go out and you practiced, then you failed. Figure out the problem first. Really spend some time to nail down what it actually is. Because your first hunch is often wrong. Think about it for a while. Once you are reasonably confident know the root problem, you can find the solution here on this sub by searching, asking questions, or you can see which books talk about that problem in which chapter - and then find those chapters a…
/r/seduction02/07/26 08:33 AM
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A woman can be interested, but due to your direct approach some women gets massively turned off because you just seem very desperate and playerish. So by going direct, you will often turn a "yes" into a "no". At least for a portion of women. The approach matters. Indirect converts much better because you come across non-needy. Non-desperate. And you let yourself be won over by her personality rather than her looks, which also signals non-needy, non-desperate, non-superficial vibes. That's all mu…
/r/seduction02/07/26 08:02 AM
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Being direct saves just a few seconds in one approach, but loses time overall due to much higher rejection rates. And honestly, it doesn't save that much time. Like an indirect approach might take 30 seconds longer than a direct one. Not a huge difference. Let's say to have one success with direct approach, you need 20 approaches. But with indirect you only need 10. In my experience, indirect approaches are at least twice as effective when it comes to getting real outcomes (a date / sex etc. ). …
/r/seduction02/07/26 07:59 AM
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I don't know that guy, but if he has a successful Youtube channel, chances are he is already at least decently socially intelligent. Maybe even highly socially intelligent. He spent time developing that social skill. Yes, he also focused on building his social status-driven career. So he did both. If you only focus on one thing: Social status-driven career advancement, or just your social + seduction skills. Then you can have some success, but the best success happens when you combine both.
/r/seduction02/07/26 07:56 AM
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For sure. This is not something you start off with if there's little to no interest
/r/seduction02/07/26 07:53 AM
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I agree with this essentially.
/r/seduction02/07/26 07:52 AM
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The worst one that I see people use a LOT is the "2 truths and a lie". Like.. nobody got time to figure out a freaking riddle when they are swiping fast through profiles. Whichever you choose, I like those that focus on values and relationship-stuff. LIke how you are in relationships with women, what you do. How you behave. That kind of thing is way more interesting than random interests or facts. The most important thing is how you behave towards her. Right? That's what they care about. The res…
/r/seduction01/07/26 07:10 PM
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yes, I agree she wants to be with a guy that is "better". But that is a belief that she can have in her mind. It is different when you behave like you're better. Yeah, it might prime her to think so too. But it's a fine line, because acting like you're better can also mean acting like a dick that doesn't see her as an equal. That's why I wanted more input from MrTerno on how he navigates that balance. Let her think he's better, but without going into the toxic side of it
/r/seduction01/07/26 07:05 PM
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I wasn't asking you. I was asking MrTerno. To counter your point, women also want a guy that treats her like an equal, and with respect. Especially if this is going to be a long-term thing like a healthy marriage, and if they want to have children etc.. And definitely in egalitarian cultures with high gender-equality.
/r/seduction01/07/26 06:58 PM
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Sheesh. That's certainly controversial, and it can really backfire into a toxic relationship dynamic with certain women where the guy basically is a total selfish jerk and the girlfriend feels deeply unhappy and leaves or cheats. How do you avoid it spiraling into that?
/r/seduction01/07/26 06:53 PM
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I remember back in the day there was this huge push on sex-talk in the seduction community. The advice was to bring up sex as a topic in conversation in various ways, and be quite aggressive with that essentially. So I was in the bar, and there was this super horny and drunk girl that was very cuddly with like all my friends. I sat down next to her and she leaned on me too (clingy vibe all over) so I whispered that I was going to take her home to F her brains out. She went home with me and we ha…
/r/seduction01/07/26 06:51 PM
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Yeah, in general, unless it's gender-capped, women have a lot of the power there since there are often like 3 women for every 30 dudes.
/r/seduction01/07/26 05:00 PM
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Yes.
/r/seduction01/07/26 03:14 PM
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what is unfair?
/r/seduction01/07/26 02:44 PM
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Well, she was initially not interested in you. She asked you out for her friend. This pivot to her, when she is trying to hook you up with her friend, rarely works out. You did shoot your shot anyway, and respect for that. But obviously you should not be surprised at the rejection. BDSM dungeons are very open. Women tend to have a lot of sexual agency there. They don't really enjoy that much "being seduced". They know what they want, and they go get it. When a girl in that setting tries to hook …
/r/seduction01/07/26 02:13 PM
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I wouldn't.
/r/seduction01/07/26 09:08 AM
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Personally, I don't see us going any further in terms of kink and sex, but for sure it would be cool to do (board game activity) or see each other at (event venue) 😊 I'd love to be friends if you're open to that! Sorry if I'm misreading this, but you asked her if you could have kinky sex!? It does seem pretty childish and inexperienced to pop that kind of question, and I could 100% see why a woman would reject you in patronizing way for that. What is the way you propose these women typically? Wh…
/r/seduction01/07/26 08:41 AM
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You answered your own question: You have sex with women casually and then they propose a relationship. The only difference from what you did before is that you say "yes" when they propose it. You can also propose it yourself after a while if you feel like things are going in that direction. The easiest way to get a girlfriend is to have sex with her first (that's an Owen Cook quote. He's a doofus, but he was right about that one).
/r/seduction01/07/26 08:23 AM
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Why do you think being social is a spirit / mood? It's an action. You choose to be social or you don't.
/r/seduction01/07/26 08:11 AM
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says in my name
/r/seduction01/07/26 08:00 AM
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Then you try 100 more approaches. 3 approaches is not enough to learn much of anything. You know the story about Edison and the light bulb? "I have not failed. I've just found 10,000 ways that won't work"
/r/seduction30/06/26 12:27 PM
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It's 100% an excuse because you're thinking that you need to say the right words. And you don't. You can say the wrong words. You just need to say something and it qualifies as an attempt / approach. You could go up to a girl and say "bla bla goo goo gaga". And congratulations. You did it. You approached. You tried something. You think you could say "bla bla" to a girl? Like literally just "bla bla".
/r/seduction30/06/26 12:21 PM
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This is honestly a very silly excuse. There is no "idea" to try. You just try. Use your brain. Monkeys can figure this out. So can you. Just go hit on the girl. That's all. If you feel like you can't come up with anything. You are focused too much on testing the "right thing" because you're afraid of failure. If you really struggle. Just go up and say "hello" and introduce yourself. Start there. The most basic shiit like IQ 20 level.
/r/seduction30/06/26 12:17 PM
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When you see woman with a friend, or with a group. You need to shift your thinking from "approach girl" to "approach group". When you approach a group, you need to address the group as a whole. So think about openers that make sense. What could you say to a group in this setting that is logical and likely to yield a positive or at least neutral response? Get used to thinking about this. Try to come up with various openers for groups you see in different settings when you walk around in your dail…
/r/seduction30/06/26 12:14 PM
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You know because you test and adjust on an on-going basis. You try one thing. Failed? Form a hypothesis about a potential mistake. Change that thing. Then try again. Failed again? OK. Disgard your original hypothesis and look for a new explanation. Then fix that new thing, and test again. This is why you have to shoot your shot many times to learn. You don't learn much from 1 approach a month. The more you do it, the more you develop some core ideas around what things actually matter - and what …
/r/seduction30/06/26 12:06 PM
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Why do you instantly assume every woman will prefer the taller guy? You should never assume such negative things about yourself until you actually have proof that she prefers another guy. Generally speaking: Assume you're attractive. It will go a long way
/r/seduction30/06/26 12:04 PM
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You try. If you don't try, you won't succeed.
/r/seduction30/06/26 06:44 AM
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True that. Or because they were recently stalked or harassed by guy that looks just like you.
/r/seduction29/06/26 08:30 PM
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This rudeness is their way of rejecting you. Just think "rudeness = not interested / rejection" and don't take it personally. They could reject you for many different reasons but the most common are: You're a stranger showing romantic or sexual interest too early, and they find that scary because "stranger danger". Built more trust and safety first before showing romantic or sexual interest. They just think you're ugly. Your approach is socially miscalibrated. Like you might approach in a really…
/r/seduction29/06/26 07:46 PM
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You can get women that are at your level of attractiveness and skill. As you're 42, you get some minus-points with most younger women due to your age. So then it depends what else you bring to the table. Or, you need to find those women that are into older men. There is definitely a subsection of the population that fall into this category. However, the competition for them is high. Everyone wants young women - level up your game and what you have to offer, or accept that you will be outcompeted…
/r/seduction29/06/26 04:23 PM
1

Just do it? What's stopping you?
/r/seduction29/06/26 11:55 AM
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Don't know what to say? Just go up and say "hi I'm Maximus" or what your name is. If fear is holding you back - start smaller. Like approaching women you don't find that attractive, or just asking something innocent like where the bathroom is in the bar.
/r/seduction29/06/26 07:22 AM
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Maybe ask yourself why most commenters on your post seem to agree on that this approach with that checklist is childish. I already made an effort to explain it to you, but it didn't seem to land. Not my problem that you don't get it
/r/seduction28/06/26 06:50 PM
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My opinion stands: I think having this checklist comes from a place of insecurity. And I also think these tests are childish / immature. Like "oh no, don't ask a girl first. SHE has to ask first".. Like that's straight up immature as F. Like it's laughable. You can discuss the details with those that are interested in getting into the weeds with you. I have spoken.
/r/seduction28/06/26 06:47 PM
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These all boil down to the fact that you don't trust yourself to make good decisions about picking a partner. And then you have to ask yourself: Why you don't trust yourself to make a good decision? And you should also ask yourself: Does following a checklist like this even make sense in the real world? Because most people don't use checklists like that, and for good reason. You can't choose what you're attracted to. If you really want someone, you want them.
/r/seduction28/06/26 06:42 PM
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It's never too late to improve. But people with autism will never be "normal" socially speaking. So it provides a blueprint / idea for how much improvement you can expect with training, depending on your starting point.
/r/seduction28/06/26 06:02 PM
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I think when you're in that situation, the very first thing you should do is check with a therapist to see if you have autism. Because you gotta know what you're dealing with. Is it simply a lack of social training? Learned helplessness and insecurity? Or are you autistic? You really need to know what the starting point is.
/r/seduction28/06/26 05:33 PM
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Here are the examples of covert testing: She has to be the one to suggest the relationship She needs to initiate contact at least half the time after the 6 week mark You do the exact same thing at the beginning as 3 months in and she doesn't ask for more constantly Basically, they are tests because you have a "pass / fail" for each of them. And they're covert, because she doesn't know she's being tested in this way. It becomes a problem when she passes a test, but because of your insecurity, you…
/r/seduction28/06/26 05:05 PM
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You already know a lot about her. Here's a formula that often works well: Give a compliment on something that isn't her genetic appearance. Ask a question about something else. For example: "I like your alt style. What do you do within marketing?" This gives her 2 potential things to talk about. It's a very safe, neutral message. If she likes your profile it's often enough to get things moving. Although it obviously doesn't have a "wow" effect.
/r/seduction28/06/26 01:44 PM
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I agree with some, but many of these are very silly and childish. It's like you're playing these teen games with your little checkbox list. Testing her in various ways without her knowledge (covert testing). It's not how most psychologically healthy adults form relationships. Using covert testing is something very insecure people do, and it's borderline toxic because you're avoiding direct communication in favor of hidden tests.
/r/seduction28/06/26 07:31 AM
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What problem does this actually cause in terms of seduction? This seems like a bad problem to solve. Meaning: The problem is real, but it doesn't interfere with seducing anyone. Right? It's like you're saying "Oh no... I need the attention of the entire crowd. Not just the hot girl I'm talking to." And my question is why? Why do you want to seduce everyone in the group when you're talking intimately to a girl in the group you already like? This seems to have more to do with your ego than seducin…
/r/seduction28/06/26 07:27 AM
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It is the right answer to stop going out with that buddy whenever women is around that you want to meet. 100% correct. If you want to be a bird-on-the-shoulder to see what makes your friend appealing to women, it can be a good way to learn. But when your goal is meeting women yourself, aim to go out with dudes less attractive than yourself. Obviously you can still hang out with your hot friend when your goal is not to meet women. OR alternatively: Go out with a friend that has a completely diffe…
/r/seduction27/06/26 05:18 PM
3

Grab her by the hand, and say "sorry guys" and just lead her away. If she doesn't want to take your hand or move with you - then she prefers the guys over you and it's time to find another girl.
/r/seduction26/06/26 09:03 PM
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Just gotta push yourself in the beginning. When you start it's uncomfortable. Do it 100 times, it's more comfortable
/r/seduction26/06/26 06:54 PM
2

Just go in and say hi to everyone.
/r/seduction26/06/26 06:22 PM
2

You can absolutely have an FWB in Bangalore. I got one there when i visited, and my Indian friend that lives there has had it multiple times.
/r/seduction26/06/26 11:41 AM
3

What keeps you from asking them? Men are supposed to ask - that's just the cultural norm, so they are waiting for you to ask. If you don't? Well you clearly lack confidence and they will see you like a loser lacking courage.
/r/seduction26/06/26 07:36 AM
1

So invite them to hang out again and get their contact info
/r/seduction26/06/26 07:30 AM
2

It's a combination of everything: What you say, how you move, where you look, which way your feet are pointing etc. Needy approach: You walk straight up to her from the front. Your feet are directly at her, you're giving full frontal direct eye contact. And you say "Hi I saw you from over there and thought you were so pretty I had to come say hello. Can I get your number?". Then you lean forwards and smile with goofy "in love" eyes as you do it. Non-needy approach: You pass a girl eating ice cre…
/r/seduction26/06/26 07:26 AM
3

What is your goal? What do you want to accomplish out of the interaction for you to feel like it's a win?
/r/seduction26/06/26 07:23 AM
1

Why does it feel like a half win? Brother, just ask her out.
/r/seduction26/06/26 06:38 AM
4

Perfect excuse to have an at-home date where you cook her something. That's also good for seducing.
/r/seduction25/06/26 07:54 PM
3

Can you explain what you mean by entitled attitude? you don't have to get into it if you don't want to. Conversations can be private. I'm just a bit confused how these convos go, and what types of things they say that are entitled in your view. I just feel like there's a lot of context missing. Or maybe you have a profile that could be a bit of a trigger to women. Like provocative if you know what I mean. Do you like to provoke or go against the grain? Does it reflect in your profile? I'm sure s…
/r/seduction25/06/26 07:45 PM
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Most women on dating apps treat me with respect and act normally and friendly. What are you texting them brother? Seems like you must be triggering them with something if you bring out their worst sides. Show your messages. I'm sure there's lots to unpack
/r/seduction25/06/26 07:22 PM
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Pass them and work on yourself
/r/seduction25/06/26 05:14 PM
2

Probably connected to seeming needy versus non-needy. When you're openly caring about their opinion and try to make contact and get their attention - you are more needy. When you don't care what they think and focus on yourself - you are less needy. Being "non-needy" is attractive. Could also be that you're imagining a connection where there is none. Also known as just being superstitious. Humans often find correlations everywhere that are just based on random chance, or because they focus on tr…
/r/seduction25/06/26 03:32 PM
2

you can't. you just gotta prioritize
/r/seduction25/06/26 12:29 PM
6

what is "the wrong track"? What do you mean by that. You mean you'll accidentally stick it in her butt when you aim for the vagina?
/r/seduction25/06/26 12:04 PM
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I don't think everyone is as ethical as you my friend
/r/seduction25/06/26 12:03 PM
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You mean the creepy men that secretly film women without obtaining their consent, and then publish it online - also without their consent?
/r/seduction25/06/26 11:36 AM
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It helps if you have an excuse that is not sex. And it also helps if you go through multiple venue changes to build trust before asking. For example: From the dancefloor, invite her to the corner to chat, from the corner, invite her to check out another bar with you, from the other bar, invite her for a short stroll near the water, from the stroll, invite her home to "look at your new goldfish" or whatever. But if you guys are making out, and she's getting really horny. Strike while the iron is …
/r/seduction24/06/26 09:56 AM
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You might do better in other countries. But those countries are like Latin American countries like perhaps Panama or Mexico, or maybe other Asian countries like Phillipines or Thailand. You will have a much harder time if your goal is Germany or the USA. That's literally much worse than staying in India. Why? Because the women that are ethnically from there think Indian men are among the least attractive types of men they could pick. Your status is bottom shelf as an Indian: You could have succe…
/r/seduction24/06/26 06:46 AM
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Who is John Cooper and why do you care what he says? Anyway, PUA is an old term. You could say this sub was a "PUA sub" many years ago, but I don't know if you can still associate it with all that "Game" stuff from 2005 today. The world has moved on. Seduction as a field has changed and developed a lot. Most people here don't think of themselves as "PUAs" and they don't strive to become a "PUA". But it does have a lot of similarities. Like most here want tips on how to bang women. That general v…
/r/seduction23/06/26 05:21 PM
1

There are legitimate uses for AI. But using them to make you dating-app photos is SLOP no matter how you do it, because you should just not use AI for this purpose, period.
/r/seduction23/06/26 05:12 PM
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What? You are the one that makes no sense at all. Matter of fact you make so little sense, it makes more sense if you're an AI bot. What skill does it take to write an AI prompt? Not much
/r/seduction23/06/26 01:10 PM
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You can, but it's worse. You risk shadow-banning, the images usually look fake, and you get a real problem on the date when she asks "I loved that photo, where did you take it?" and you have to come up with a bad lie to avoid revealing you used AI. And if you just admit you used AI, she will instantly look down on you for it. Just get real pics to avoid all that. It's not that difficult. If you take dating apps seriously, you should be happy to invest some effort to put your best foot forwards w…
/r/seduction23/06/26 11:24 AM
1

You're overthinking it. You can look fun and playful with your expression. You don't have to "dress down" because you're younger. That's often a mistake younger guys make - they dress too casually. Giving marriage vibes is just a bonus. You should not see this as a downside at all. Women are culturally trained from birth to idolize the idea of marriage. You just take advantage of this cultural knowledge. You don't have to marry them. You can seek one night stands with your "marriage" pic. This i…
/r/seduction23/06/26 11:19 AM
0

I always get this complaint from someone, but no, I never use AI.
/r/seduction23/06/26 08:00 AM
2

Practice gratitude. There's always a hotter girl. It's not gonna make you drastically happier if you settle down with a 9 versus an 8.5.. After a year, you will feel exactly the same. Try getting into a relationship for practice. See how you like it. Not saying to settle down with the first best thing, it's ok to be picky. But once you find someone you really like - give it a go. Even if she's not perfect. No-one is perfect. You will have pros and cons with every woman. No-one checks absolutely …
/r/seduction22/06/26 08:01 PM
5

Beware of the hedonistic treadmill
/r/seduction22/06/26 07:52 PM
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It makes it harder for a few reasons. You spend less time in actual long-term relationships, so you don't get practice at it. Because of this, your relationship skills may begin to lag behind other men on the dating-market that prioritized relationships. You also get used to sexual variety. And while most men want and enjoy sexual variety, not everyone chooses to get it (or have the skills / attractiveness to pull it off). When you're used to a perk, like access to multiple sex partners, it gets…
/r/seduction22/06/26 07:42 PM
1

I don't worry about this. If I want to communicate I communicate. This is one of those things that I consider "over-gaming". You're analyzing everything like a pick-me girl. Some things should be carefully considered. Not this.
/r/seduction22/06/26 05:45 PM
1

LOL fish photos are the classic "not to do" cliché 😂 But I guess guys that MUST have a fishing woman can get away with this tactic. For that 1 in a 10 000 match.
/r/seduction22/06/26 05:40 PM
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Currently, you're trying to follow the "dual strategy". Where you're looking for both a relationship and casual sex at the same time. When you do this, you should always give off "casual sex vibes" first. NOT boyfriend vibes, that comes later. So your thinking is 100% correct here. You need to shift the vibe. Here is the main way to that switch fast: Escalate to sex sooner! There's obviously more to it than that. But if you can just do this one thing, I think your problem will largely be solved.…
/r/seduction22/06/26 02:03 PM
1

I don't decide when we meet typically. The woman usually decides. If a woman plans it further out. I don't "try to meet her sooner". I deprioritize her. So you're misunderstanding my intentions. Nowhere am I claiming that I'm trying to meet her sooner or that you should do something to meet her sooner. Let that idea go completely.. Because this not my point... like ... at all. What I'm saying is that I categorize women into two boxes: Those that want to meet sooner and those that want to meet la…
/r/seduction22/06/26 01:53 PM
1

The way I do it is as follows: Step 1: Ask a bunch of women out on dates. Step 2: Prioritize the ones that want to meet sooner. Step 3: Deprioritize those that want to meet later. I recommend not investing effort into low probability plays. When a woman wants to meet further out, I don't put a lot of effort into that one. I put less. You are arguing for the opposite. You're saying when a woman plans a date further out - you need to invest more (to keep her engaged) I don't think that makes logic…
/r/seduction22/06/26 01:26 PM
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If you are in the real world and you try to date women. You will typically notice a distinct relationship between "how far out" a woman plans a date with you, and how likely she is to ghost. At least this is what I have noticed very clearly. A "far out" date planning, is often a woman's way to smoothly ghost you / fade you. The reason they do this is because direct rejections can rub a lot of men the wrong way, leading to aggression. Women put their safety first. Not saying it's a perfect correl…
/r/seduction22/06/26 08:46 AM
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I think if you still smell neutral / good, that's probably something you could get away with yeah. Your clothes weren't stained or with holes right? I wonder if people would have success with this challenge if they also stinked.
/r/seduction21/06/26 06:56 PM
0

A shaved head is somewhat kept though. It's usually a very clean look
/r/seduction21/06/26 06:52 PM
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I don't think game always beats looksmaxxing. It's like two sides of the coin. You need both to some extent. Well... lookmaxxing is probably not the term I'm looking for, but caring about your appearance and putting some effort into it. Like a normal socially adjusted human being - is almost a non-negotiable. In a study on dealbreakers, women rated looking "unkept" as their biggest dealbreaker. Over all others (personality stuff included). It's very hard to hit on appealing women if their first …
/r/seduction21/06/26 06:43 PM
1

I think we need to break down some words here, because I don't agree with this at all. Misogyny is the hatred of, contempt for, or prejudice against women or girls. Agree with this definition? Rating someone on a scale from 1-10 has nothing to do with hatred for women or girls. I could rate a guy this way. I rate myself this way. Women can rate men the same way and it doesn't bother me one bit. If a woman rated me this way, I would not feel like she had "contempt for me". So no. It's not misogyn…
/r/seduction21/06/26 05:44 PM
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What does a 1-10 attractiveness rating have to do with misogyny? Genuinely curious why you think that. And also don't understand why you think it's stupid? Feel free to explain
/r/seduction21/06/26 05:14 PM
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If a woman schedules the date 5/6 days out - she is probably planning to ghost you. So that logic doesn't hold up. She had most likely already planned to ghost you from the start.
/r/seduction21/06/26 12:45 PM
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Not all women that go clubbing want to meet new dudes. Look for signs that they are. They will usually try to distance themselves a bit from their group (or seem disinterested in their group). If they give you eye contact and show open body language, that's a great sign. Another way to go about it is to infiltrate the group first. Become part of the group with the innocent intention of having fun and getting to know everyone. Once you get accepted into the group that's when you can begin chattin…
/r/seduction20/06/26 12:54 PM
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The only thing I talk about when I first get a woman's number is LOGISTICS AND MEETING UP. Get the date locked down. Why would you talk about anything else? There is only one reason you get a woman's phone number: So you can ask her out or arrange to meet her. So that is what you talk about. Anything else is completely and utterly pointless and a waste of time for everyone involved. Once the date is locked down, yeah you can talk about other shit for fun. But you don't have to. That's optional. …
/r/seduction20/06/26 08:54 AM
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Yes, the most important thing is to be uninhibited
/r/seduction20/06/26 07:02 AM
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I usually just go straight to the dancefloor and dance. Then I spot which women are looking, and/or which women are trying to dance closer to me, or "accidentally" bumping into me. Then I dance with them, and try to move them from there to a dark corner to chat (or outside for some fresh air), or just make-out on the dancefloor. I thrive the best in these very busy spots with tons of people + active dancefloor. I enjoy it because I enjoy dancing and think it's fun. If you prefer calmer bar / lou…
/r/seduction19/06/26 07:50 PM
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Cold approaching women just means to go up a woman you don't know, and hit on her. The basic steps: Say hello, and invite her on a date. just start practicing that. This is the bare bones open + close approach that every noob should start with. Provided they have the courage. If that seems too scary, start smaller like asking for directions.
/r/seduction19/06/26 05:21 PM
3

You need to invite them home.
/r/seduction19/06/26 05:17 PM
3

Yeah, if there's no vibe I move right on to another one. It's usually a waste of time to chase women that aren't responsive.
/r/seduction19/06/26 06:32 AM
0

western europe story on a girl? What does this mean
/r/seduction18/06/26 04:01 PM
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While it's up to you, I'd say the ideal timeline is around 2-3 months from you start dating. Then you usually have enough time to get to know each other relatively well before making a decision. But it depends a bit on how old you are, and how serious you want to get. If you're teenagers looking to have a short relationship lasting maybe 3-4 months to a year or two, then you can get together on day 1 if you so please. If you're 40 and you want to find a person to stay with the rest of your life,…
/r/seduction18/06/26 12:09 PM
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Feeld app.
/r/seduction18/06/26 11:40 AM
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You can tease her on it in a playful way, but honestly - when you're just chatting on a dating app realize you probably don't have her full attention. On dating apps the goal is not to chat anyways. The goal is to meet for a date as quickly as possible. Any extra message that doesn't promote safety, trust, or interest in meeting up, or specifically discusses meeting up - is wasted time. If you ask her 10 questions that do not move things forwards then you're just not efficient enough.
/r/seduction18/06/26 11:29 AM
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I tell her up front I'm not looking for anything serious. Whether it works depends on what she is looking for. You could lie and trick someone, or you can be honest and have fewer but better people to hang with. Sex with someone that wants casual sex is usually a lot better than sex with someone that actually wants a romantic relationship - that you're tricking into casual sex. You'll feel better about it because the consent is pure. And she will feel better about the sex too because it is what …
/r/seduction18/06/26 11:18 AM
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I never change my phone number. I have never had a problem with this. If someone contacts me, they always have done it just once and if I don't reply - I don't hear from them again. And why would I be bothered by that? Getting one message here and there in a year from someone I don't want to see again? It's not an issue. If you have problems with stalkers - then yeah I could see that benefit of changing numbers. But if that has happened to you more than once, maybe reconsider what type of women …
/r/seduction17/06/26 06:11 PM
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If I could start completely over, I would choose 2 parents with great social skills to raise me from I was a baby. If I was starting over as an adult, I would probably just read all the most popular science-based books on social skills, and be as social as I can in diverse environments. Being social in one environment is not that helpful. Being social in many different settings makes you adaptable.
/r/seduction16/06/26 05:41 PM
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Just agree.
/r/seduction16/06/26 04:47 PM
2

Good looking women can choose from a lot of men that don't hit on her in the street. So she has a plethora of options. She can just go on Instagram or Tinder and her inbox will explode. Therefore, she will naturally become picky. It's not just about the number of men cold approaching.
/r/seduction16/06/26 04:32 PM
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This is not what I'm talking about
/r/seduction16/06/26 07:40 AM
1

depends why you think people suck
/r/seduction16/06/26 07:40 AM
1

It can make it a bit harder when you don't fit the stereotype. But it also makes you a unique offering on the dating market. You have differentiated yourself from many other black men. There are for sure some women who are dying for the things that you're offering. But it may take a bit more time to find these women.
/r/seduction16/06/26 07:38 AM
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NYC is only good if you're rich. Because that city has an overflow of rich men that move there from the entire planet. You're competing with these rich dudes for hipster girls. I don't think this particular cold approach method you're using is a good tactic. The way I see it, you should not just rely on one method (like pure cold approach) to meet women. You should develop a broader approach. Think multi-channel marketing. Not single-channel cold calls. When I meet women / date women, it's usual…
/r/seduction15/06/26 05:32 PM
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People will be as picky as they can afford to be, or if they can't adjust to what they can get - then they will remain single. It's really a self-solving problem. They can choose to be too picky and stay single. Or they can lower their standards until they find someone. My take is that most women lower their standards until they get a boyfriend. For most of them, the desire for commitment is stronger than the desire to keep to their original standards. But when a woman is quite young, she has a …
/r/seduction15/06/26 04:48 PM
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Sure, it's all relative though. Having a healthy relationship, at least speaking for myself, has been much harder than getting laid. Getting laid consistently took me about 5 years to figure out. Getting healthy relationships figured out took me about another 10 years. So based on that, maybe we could say that being good at relationship is twice as hard. At least it was for me, growing up in a broken home with divorced fighting parents. Not having any good role models on that front.
/r/seduction15/06/26 04:45 PM
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We don't want to get married for the time being. Perfectly happy just cohabiting for now. LOL, I wouldn't be thinking I have this part figured out if my girl was a 2. It's not so much about equality in doing or money or whatever like that. It's more about seeing someone as equal in worth. Equally capable to make independent decisions. And this basis should be the default. If you're in a relationship where you want inequality and it's mutually agreed upon you both want this - then go for it. What…
/r/seduction15/06/26 04:36 PM
2

mature takes
/r/seduction15/06/26 04:34 PM
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If you're black, like your profile picture - it's very common that men have dominated the conversation with these toxic ideals of male dominance to such an extent that women in that culture also begin to believe it. Similar to how some black people are racist against their own kind, because those racist views have become so dominant they adopt them as their own. Some women have also adopted the view that "they need to be dominated". This is quite common in certain cultures. Not just the afro-ame…
/r/seduction15/06/26 04:21 PM
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No kids yet, but we're planning to try starting next year.
/r/seduction15/06/26 01:55 PM
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Agreed. I think most people that reach a certain level of maturity get to this point.
/r/seduction15/06/26 01:40 PM
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I already have plenty of other posts on how to get results in a non-toxic way. This entire sub is filled with posts on how to get results. Most posts don't talk about needing to have these toxic ideas to get results. But some do. And I'm just calling them out, that in my experience - it's not necessary to have these toxic ideas and that they're usually just making someone's game worse. You have a map of reality, and if your map of "how women really are" is wrong, then you will make inferior deci…
/r/seduction15/06/26 01:32 PM
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This post is talking about that. I have other posts talking about other things
/r/seduction15/06/26 01:24 PM
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Does she have some experience with masturbating / sex? Ask her if she has come before and what things usually bring her to orgasm. Communication is key here. Some women already know exactly what you should do to make her cum, so then you can just do that exact thing. If she has no clue, the best bet is vibrator to the clit (number 1 choice), or long oral sex (think 10 minutes+). Learn to lick puss. These are generally the easiest paths for most women.
/r/seduction15/06/26 12:56 PM
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You can't choose what you're attracted to. It's not a moral decision people think about and make out of logic.
/r/seduction15/06/26 12:37 PM
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You're just highlighting the point of my post. You can have success without being toxic. But some guys (like you) wrongly think that this is not possible. This post is for you. Too bad you can't take it to heart.
/r/seduction15/06/26 12:21 PM
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This post was written for you. Sad that you couldn't take it to heart.
/r/seduction15/06/26 12:19 PM
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If you think these are true, you haven't even scratched the surface when it comes to understanding women. These ideas are held by men that have a very shallow understanding of women. Like a sterotyped caricature of what a woman is, that their misogynistic dad told them, or that they learned from some toxic influencer. So everything gets interpreted through that lens.
/r/seduction15/06/26 12:16 PM
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Yes, this post is also for you. Hope you learn the lesson, and not miss the whole point.
/r/seduction15/06/26 12:15 PM
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I don't think they're the same as men on every metric. I think they're equal in worth / value / dignity. And when men and women are different, it's in my view not about power. It's on subtle nuances in communication, goals, focus etc. But the toxic way to see it is that men and women are different in terms of power, intelligence, self-knowledge etc. It's not about "men are on average better to read maps" and "women are on average better at language", like you might find in studies and experiment…
/r/seduction15/06/26 12:09 PM
1

Charm is not "looking nice".
/r/seduction15/06/26 11:37 AM
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Unless you're genetically misformed (which most men aren't), being attractive is to some extent a choice. Most men can be more attractive than the average man with a little bit of effort. The average man is quite unappealing and obese - or at least borderline obese.
/r/seduction15/06/26 07:00 AM
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How you are as a person comes from a combination of your genetics, and your environment / upbringing / learning. Just like any other quality or trait. "Charm" is not exempt as a trait. It is part of your personality.
/r/seduction15/06/26 06:59 AM
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OP admitted he rarely talks to women in real life. I rest my case. Dude is not practicing as much as he should. This is the only thing he should focus on for now.
/r/seduction15/06/26 06:28 AM
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And when you're being social. Are you actively trying to be charming? Or are you just behaving "normally"? There's a huge difference between intentional training with clear goals versus casually training (just going through the motions). It's also hard to quantify "charm". So it's hard to really measure any improvement. It's a lot based on feels and vibes. A better measure is perhaps how well you're doing at seducing people. That can be an indirect measurement of charm, and this can be counted a…
/r/seduction14/06/26 07:26 PM
0

Everyone has a genetic limit. Same with any other skill. Let's say you ask "how do you get good at running". The answer is "run more". And then you ask: Why you can't run a sub 3 hour marathon after running for 10 years. And the answer is: Not everyone has the genetic potential to run that fast. Not everyone has the genetic potential to become very charming. But you are probably more charming now than you were before you started. Right? You improved? Or not?
/r/seduction14/06/26 07:12 PM
1

It happens naturally. The more social you are, the more charming you become.
/r/seduction14/06/26 07:06 PM
4

You don't have any relationship problems. You don't have a marriage. So right now you're just mentally making yourself worried for no reason. Once you find yourself in a relationship it's possible that you won't have any big issues, so you won't need any advice. You don't need advice until things go wrong! Don't make yourself worried that "things will go wrong, so I need to prepare" when you have no evidence of that it will go wrong. Deal with things as they come. Solve only the problems you hav…
/r/seduction14/06/26 05:07 PM
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If you feel like focusing too much on theory is causing these issues, then yes. It's normal that some dudes focus too much on theory, because they don't want to "mess it up". They don't want to deal with rejection. So instead they try to learn everything so they can do it perfectly and make zero mistakes. This is a very dumb way to go about it, because fucking it up is part of the game. Trying to be perfect is just fueling the approach anxiety. Practice beats theory, hands down. If you can only …
/r/seduction14/06/26 05:03 PM
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Acting that way is usually due to nerves / approach anxiety. But I don't know if you're just like that with women or if you're like that in all social situations?
/r/seduction14/06/26 03:32 PM
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Ok, can you tell me if this is correct? When you try to talk with women, you kinda stand there stiff, you don't smile, and your tone of voice is monotone. Then you ask her "how is your day?" or something like that?
/r/seduction14/06/26 03:25 PM
1

I'm too scared of getting murdered to get involved with any wives.
/r/seduction14/06/26 03:09 PM
3

I understand. It's rare to get delayed feedback. Feedback is usually instant. Meaning - if they react badly it's usually the very last thing you said. Not something you said 10 minutes ago. If you never have positive results, you're simply not coming across as someone that they should get to know. You don't come across attractive, confident, valuable, socially competent. You instead come across unattractive, insecure, perhaps needy, or socially incompetent. Practicing is the best way to get soci…
/r/seduction14/06/26 03:04 PM
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You're thinking about it all wrong. It's not about "how". It's about "do". The fact that you ask "how" means that you're afraid of doing it "wrong". And you need to let that go completely and just practice talking. When you learned to talk as a baby - did you ask your parents to explain to you how to talk? No. You just got it intuitively. In the beginning you just said nonsense. Bla bla bla. Ga ga ga. And eventually you figured it out. The same it is with building more advanced social skills. In…
/r/seduction14/06/26 02:50 PM
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This stuff requires practice. How often are you going out of your way to be social? Ideally you do something social every single day. And ideally, with women. See if you can structure your life in that way. It needs to be a daily to-do or habit. Just as an example: Monday: Chatting on dating apps Tuesday: Pilates Wednesday: Zumba class Thursday: Cooking class Friday: Salsa night at local bar Saturday: Nightclub / Rave Sunday: Day game at the local park
/r/seduction14/06/26 11:47 AM
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It's not necessarily a bad thing in all cases. Some women get "won over" by persistence and want to see it. But there are a lot of problems with it. One downsides is that it's inherently disrespectful. She is not interested initially, and instead of accepting her "no", you ignore it and keep pushing. Being selfish. Many women find this not only annoying, but some also find it scary. Some men who are very persistent end up with getting restraining orders, or even just a very bad reputation. A sec…
/r/seduction14/06/26 11:40 AM
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Can you make a conversation playful? Start with getting good at that. Learn to be silly, learn to joke, learn to tease, learn to have fun / play around with the conversation. Instill a mood of playfulness into the convo. Once you know how to do that, you're most of the way there towards flirting. And all you need to do is to add compliments, sexual one-liner jokes, or double-entendres (misunderstand what she says as if she said something sexual). Flirting = playfully showing romantic or sexual i…
/r/seduction14/06/26 07:47 AM
3

Yeah lots of gym guys fall into this trap
/r/seduction13/06/26 02:39 PM
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You also have to think about what kind of woman you want. If you want a gym-girl, or an athletic woman in general, then having a good physique is probably something she will value higher than most other women.
/r/seduction13/06/26 12:37 PM
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Good question! It matters to different degrees depending on where you're currently at. Someone that is extremely skinny, or someone that is extremely obese will benefit immensely from getting closer to an average-preference attractive body. So when you're starting very far off the mark, the change in results (and how much positive attention you receive) can be dramatic. But if you're pretty normal / healthy, have a decent BMI, not too much fat, some muscle etc. Then the gap from that to being re…
/r/seduction13/06/26 12:04 PM
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- Curiosity - Excitement / novelty (trying new experiences) - Feeling attracted also to women - For the LOLs / for the story - Wanting to please her male partner (some get a kick out of pleasing)
/r/seduction13/06/26 08:01 AM
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No worries my brother in Christ
/r/seduction12/06/26 08:13 PM
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Being sexual early on is bad. Because you have just made yourself into a dude that is thirsty for sex. Just like every other guy on dating apps. In addition, even if she participates in the flirty sexy banter, you reduce the chance she will meet you because you have made it all about sex and that raises the stakes immensely. Women never want to feel like sex is expected of them if they were to meet you in person.
/r/seduction12/06/26 08:12 PM
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Where was she sexual? I only see you being the sexual one. Anyway. Being sexual from the beginning is a texting mistake. Even if she begins it. Because sexting early on is bad texting game generally speaking for countless reasons. If you want me to elaborate why sexting or being sexual in early convo is bad texting, let me know and I'll explain.
/r/seduction12/06/26 08:10 PM
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You're inviting her to a massage, or implying you want to give her a massage. A male inviting a woman to a massage, is generally translated into an invite to have sex. Because saying "sex" is too crass, many adults use "massage" as a euphemism for sex. This is common general cultural / social knowledge.
/r/seduction12/06/26 08:07 PM
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According to a Norwegian study, people go on a date with about 1 in 40 matches. That is the average. So before you assume you're bad at texting, keep that number in mind. Most matches don't go anywhere. Not getting replies or getting ghosted mid conversation is a totally normal part of using dating apps. In your particular conversation. Let me translate how women read your messages: You: “you know I have a motto, every woman who gets back from a long day of work deserves a massage ;)” you like t…
/r/seduction12/06/26 07:50 PM
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Sometimes. Usually not. I just think "wow they're attractive". I'm usually not imagining having sex with them, but there are exceptions.
/r/seduction12/06/26 01:03 PM
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The easiest way is probably dating-apps. Travelers use those extensively and if you make your profile especially set-up to be a local "travel guide" type of profile - that would benefit you. A lot of women want "tinder travel guide" type of dates when they get to a new city. You can also stay at the hostel (book a room) and just pretend you're also traveling. That's probably the best, but this costs more money and is inherently dishonest.
/r/seduction12/06/26 12:34 PM
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Why would I DM you? Peace out bro. I've said what I wanted to say. Let's just move on
/r/seduction11/06/26 01:53 PM
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You can't control how she will handle it or how she will take it. So let it go and don't worry about it. Be 100% okay with seeming like a newbie. Be 100% okay with turning her off.
/r/seduction11/06/26 01:52 PM
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You aren't really doing a good job of defending your method in terms of it being more effective. I have gotten plenty of success asking women for their number without this convoluted BS. So that's why I'm saying it doesn't matter. You're over-gaming.
/r/seduction11/06/26 01:50 PM
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I'm not the only one here that thinks your approach is silly. Look at the comments from others here. It's completely OK to ask for a woman's number. It can signal confidence. Giving away your number can seem low effort and careless / too nonchalant, or frankly even childish. There are pros and cons to each method, but your method is not inherently better. So my point is you're just over-gaming. Over-complicating shit for no reason in terms of getting results. If she likes you, she will gladly gi…
/r/seduction11/06/26 01:45 PM
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Women are often on the look-out for guys with overly cocky attitudes, as a red flag for him being a douchebag. So if she pushes back and confronts you on "why you assume that"? It is generally the case that you triggered her "douchebag antennas". You may have been an overly nice guy before, and now you try to pretend to be the bad-boy. But when women react this way to it - calling you out and confronting you on your cocky assumptions, it's generally the sign that you went too far in the asshole …
/r/seduction11/06/26 09:01 AM
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I almost never get shit-tested like this anymore because: I don't act like a cocky assumptive player using gimmicks. I own my personality. I recommend you do the same. To some people, cocky banter is a natural part of their personality. If it is - by all means act that way. But if that's not who you are, don't pretend it is.
/r/seduction11/06/26 08:57 AM
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If you did not try to act overly cocky and assumptive, you would not get this "shit test" in the first place. Why improve your problem-solving skills when you could instead avoid the problem all-together?
/r/seduction11/06/26 08:34 AM
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You acted cocky confident. Now she's checking if that is really who you are. Are you cocky or confident or not? Because you get insecure and begin asking us on Reddit about what to respond - it is obvious that you are in fact NOT that cocky or confident. And you faked it. When you fake your personality - most women will look right through it. If you are not that cocky and confident in real life, don't fake it. Simply ask her out on a date like a normal dude. Don't be assumptive if you're not the…
/r/seduction11/06/26 07:34 AM
1

Be more active in conversation. Try to say something more often. The "I don't know what to say" thing is an excuse, because you want to say the right thing. But you should learn to be okay with saying the wrong thing. You could literally say "quack quack fart BING BANG BOOOP", and you said something. You won. You don't have to use brain power to say something smart, logical or appropriate. Rright now you care too much about how you're coming across and filter your thoughts. You have things you w…
/r/seduction11/06/26 07:31 AM
1

I never use chatGPT. I just know how to make a list.
/r/seduction11/06/26 07:27 AM
0

You have her number. So you got her number. It's complicated and ego soothing, because instead of doing this roundabout dance, you could have just asked for her number like a normal human being. But no, instead you got to do it in this needlessly complicated way where "you don't ask". Which for some reason, you make out to be a big win
/r/seduction11/06/26 07:18 AM
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You are still taking her number. You're just doing it in a needlessly convoluted way to soothe your ego.
/r/seduction10/06/26 06:50 PM
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Adding a list from ChatGPT in your post should instantly get you banned from All of Reddit for eternity. Please let us have ONE PLACE where we can all just be human pls.
/r/seduction10/06/26 06:48 PM
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Usually yeah, especially when she REALLY likes you
/r/seduction10/06/26 12:52 PM
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My last date that went successful was a Hinge date where we chatted a bit, and discussed getting an Airbnb together. I called her at this point, because most women aren't that forwards or sexually open-minded to suggest getting an Airbnb. So I wanted to ensure she was real and that I wasn't being scammed or something. She lived a bit of travel outside the city. Anyway, she sounded genuine over the phone so I booked the Airbnb. When we met up at our meeting spot we went to get some food at a good…
/r/seduction10/06/26 12:06 PM
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If basketball skills were real, you should be able to hit the basket with every shot. Right? No. Seduction skills are real, and it's also a numbers game. Because skills are never perfect, and there are many other factors outside your control. Like whether she finds you physically attractive or not - is largely due to taste and not something that you can control much. But some part are within your control. Just like any other skill in any other sport, being a stand-up comic (as an example of soci…
/r/seduction10/06/26 10:28 AM
1

Finding friends that are charming can be he helpful. I was friends with two very charming "naturals" like that. But to be honest, I question the value of having examples. Because my own style of flirting is completely different from any of those guys.
/r/seduction09/06/26 07:07 PM
1

I think just going to bars / nightlife / social events a lot will expose you to a lot of real-world examples by other men.
/r/seduction09/06/26 06:43 PM
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This study has been criticized for how they define "rape". It is much more accurate to say that they fantasize about consensual non-consent. Where there's an element of non-consent happening. But none of of these fantasies are actually non-consensual because the fantasizer is always agreeing to them in their mind. When it's a fantasy to turn themselves on, they are always the ones 100% in control of the action. They decide exactly what will happen and how far things will go. They get to choose t…
/r/seduction09/06/26 04:56 PM
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I get a lot of "i had such a good time but dont see this going any further/didnt feel a connection" texts after my first dates, which I chalked up to a lack of escalation on my part and have been working on fixing. That is indeed the right way to think. Getting this feedback regularly is almost always connected to a lack of escalation. But in this latter case, you did, in fact, escalate - so here that was not the issue. It can just be a lack of overall attraction. Which is another common reason …
/r/seduction09/06/26 01:31 PM
1

Half is a stretch.
/r/seduction09/06/26 07:07 AM
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It is largely due to our testosterone. Because women that get on higher levels of testosterone (like female bodybuilders) experience this intense surge of sex drive and largely become pervs too. Men and women are different. It benefits men to have a higher sex drive than women - evolutionarily speaking. Pregnancy is riskier than getting someone pregnant.
/r/seduction09/06/26 07:06 AM
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What is holding you back from being fun and flirty? Is it a skill issue, a social anxiety issue, or both? Regardless, the answer to your question is probably just: Practice. As boring as it sounds. If you want to be more fun and flirty, you have to try being more fun and flirty more often. Until you get better at it and more comfortable with it. There's no way around practice.
/r/seduction09/06/26 07:03 AM
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if you go through that one sister's photos on instagram. Does she not have a single photo with her other sister tagged? If she does, you can follow the sister directly and get in touch that way
/r/seduction08/06/26 07:56 PM
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I think your plan is pretty solid. Ask for another friendly hangout and hopefully meet both of them. During the hangout, bring up the topic of dating, and ask if they're seeing anyone. Alternatively, you can just ask her if she's single over text. And if she says no- ask if you can get sister's contact info if you did not get it when you were hanging out (I was a bit confused if you got both their contact infos or just one of them)
/r/seduction08/06/26 07:43 PM
1

She doesn't trust you with the truth then. Why do you think she doesn't trust you?
/r/seduction08/06/26 07:38 PM
1

Ask her what's going on in her head in those moments where you sense that she's getting anxious or avoidant. Get more info to understand her better
/r/seduction08/06/26 12:05 PM
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The people that really struggle with it will not understand what the you're talking about. Because you're not sharing anything of substance, you're just alluding to some "secret knowledge" that people supposedly will get intuitively. Noobs don't get things intuitively. That's why they're noobs.
/r/seduction08/06/26 08:32 AM
2

"Wanna see where I live?" I use this line all the time. Timing: When leaving a venue during the first date.
/r/seduction08/06/26 08:29 AM
1

You have already made it awkward in the friend group. I think that ship has sailed. It doesn't really matter that much what you do at this point. If you hit on her, she might say yes - she might decline. The awkwardness in the group will not go away. It might get worse when you try again.
/r/seduction08/06/26 08:26 AM
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The key is to recognize the "key stages of attraction". Yet you failed to mention what these key stages of attraction are. You tell us you have a secret, but you refuse to share the secret? What is the purpose of your post?
/r/seduction08/06/26 08:22 AM
1

Watch / listen to podcasts, talk-shows, and stand-up comedy shows. Notable mention: Craig Ferguson.
/r/seduction08/06/26 07:58 AM
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Be mentally OK with losing her. Have other goals in life than her. Goals you're actually passionate about. Get emotional needs met from friends and other activities. Do not rely on her for all your emotional needs. Straight up tell her when you're feeling needy and clingy, and say you're working on it. Say "I feel very needy and clingy today". Oftentimes just putting words to it will reduce the emotion in seconds. Once she knows that she doesn't have to do anything when you say this, it will be …
/r/seduction08/06/26 07:48 AM
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It is established science. I recommend you read about the Halo effect, Primacy effects., and Confirmation Bias on your own time if you're not yet familiar with the research. If she found you physically attractive, and then when you interact with her you are a loser, she will lose attraction for you. But that loss of attraction is much less than what you would expect, because of her initial first impression counts for much more. First impressions are weighted stronger. That is the halo effect. Yo…
/r/seduction08/06/26 07:04 AM
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You want to know ahead of time so you don't have to risk rejection? Wouldn't that be nice. Life doesn't work that way. You have to risk rejection to find out if she's DTF. You have to invite her from the club to the bed, or some other sex-possible location. Maybe through another venue change in between to build comfort. Accept she might decline your proposal. That's life.
/r/seduction06/06/26 07:27 PM
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It's impossible to decouple someone's looks and their behavior / body language. Because people are not static. They're almost moving, giving off signals. Based off her looks alone I can tell almost nothing. Except wearing headphones (that's usually a bad sign). But from her behavior I can tell a whole lot. If I get a feeling she is not approachable, I won't approach. I always check for signs of approachability. Especially walking slow, being loud / chatty, eye contact, or looking bored in a soci…
/r/seduction06/06/26 05:06 PM
1

It's not awkward at all. You're overthinking this. I always order alcohol-free something, and the woman usually does the same by following my lead. How to escalate is covered by many posts already
/r/seduction06/06/26 04:40 PM
1

It is a clear yes if they like you and trust you enough. If it's not a clear yes or no - they don't like you enough or don't trust you enough. It is typical the case that a beginner seducer gets women interested. But he fails to convert to sex because he gives off too much fake player vibes and therefore he struggles to build the necessary trust for her to have sex. If she can't trust you, she's not gonna sleep with you.
/r/seduction06/06/26 04:27 PM
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130 something
/r/seduction06/06/26 04:26 PM
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Yes, abundance mindset matters to some degree. But being a woman matters more. Men are way more open to being approached than women are. So women generally have more success with this than men. Men = desperate. Women = picky. That's mostly why you experience more success at cold approaching than men. You are approaching a hungry and eager audience, whereas men are approaching an audience of skeptics.
/r/seduction05/06/26 03:36 PM
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People evaluate others through a combination of the halo-effect and through a subconscious counting-system where they add all your positive qualities, give them different weights and find your total attractiveness score based on the qualities they care about. When you take one quality most people find attractive, like confidence - and you reduce it. What happens? Well if that is their first impression of you it creates a negative halo effect. So that's quite unfortunate. They are less likely to …
/r/seduction05/06/26 02:57 PM
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Try to find munchies / open minded events, or facebook groups wherever you are. The swinger / sex party / ENM scene. In small cities this may be impossible to find. But if the city is a good size there are often spaces like that. And you are wayyy more likely to find threesome-willing women there quicker. Also use dating-apps like FEELD and Fetlife - catered to people that are more on the wild side sexually speaking. Lastly, you can also try hosting small parties / get-togethers at your place. F…
/r/seduction05/06/26 02:17 PM
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It's not binary.
/r/seduction05/06/26 08:26 AM
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You are way more attractive than you would have been if you were not fit and healthy.
/r/seduction05/06/26 08:20 AM
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You looked really bad due to bad health. That y is supporting up my argument that health and attractiveness is strongly connected. Am I saying genetics don't matter? No. I'm saying they matter less than what most guys think.
/r/seduction05/06/26 08:17 AM
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When they were young, Gilmour was clearly in better physical shape than Nick Mason. Gilmour sports double chin and clearly has a higher bodyfat percentage. You can see that clearly when you look at the photos. I'm not saying genetics plays zero role. But it plays often less of a role than guys think. And that is what I'm arguing in this post. If Nick Mason was in better shape - your argument would stand. But the opposite is true.
/r/seduction04/06/26 07:51 PM
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Not being fat is not the same as being healthy or fit
/r/seduction04/06/26 07:43 PM
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I've been to Equinox. Lots of attractive people there in good shape
/r/seduction04/06/26 07:41 PM
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That is just a guestimate dude. It's a reddit post / argument. Not a scientific paper. I said "people on this sub". Obviously I don't meet people on this sub. I ask them what they do in terms of fitness etc., and they almost always say they're out of shape when you dig into why they're not having success. And what do two ugly and out-of-shape men: Nick Mason and David Glimour have to do with anything? Completely irrelevant.
/r/seduction04/06/26 07:36 PM
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There are levels to this. Most people in the gym aren't that healthy. You can find a lot of unhealthy people in the gym at any given day. A better place to look is at Olympic 800 meter runners for example. See many people there with bad looks? nah.. World of difference between a pro athlete and an average gym goer.
/r/seduction04/06/26 07:30 PM
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Where is the photo? Ohhh I see you could not find one. Bye bye now. You lost this debate. You are already backtracking and downgrading your claims.
/r/seduction04/06/26 06:29 PM
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Behaving unethically is "never that deep" to the people doing it. You always justify it with excuses.
/r/seduction04/06/26 06:28 PM
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Show me a photo of a person with a double chin and a clear six-pack. I'll wait. There are a lot of bodybuilding shows you could choose pics from. Where men purposefully diet down to low bodyfat percentages. See if you can find a single one on stage with low bodyfat and double chin. I'll wait. You just need ONE photo to prove me wrong. A single one. And even if you find one, I can almost guarantee you they're an extreme outlier with some extremely freaky genetics that in no-way applies to most pe…
/r/seduction04/06/26 06:17 PM
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Hello
/r/seduction04/06/26 06:17 PM
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That's complete bullshit. I invite you to take a look at holocaust pictures and find a single prisoner that doesn't have a jawline that is sharp AF. Also see if you can find one that has a "thick waist". LOL.... good luck. Genetics my ass
/r/seduction04/06/26 06:13 PM
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It's not that deep
/r/seduction04/06/26 06:12 PM
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Of course, but it's rarely the case. A good example I love to bring up is to take a look at group-photos / class photos from Navy Seals or other special forces. You will struggle to find a man in those line-ups that is legit ugly.
/r/seduction04/06/26 06:10 PM
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In a relationship it's obviously extremely important to have good emotional intelligence. But the role of health is not reduced over time. How many widowed women had a husband that died decades before them from a lifestyle related disease like stroke, heart-attack or cancer? It's a lot.... wayyy too many. Emotional intelligence is only valuable if you're still around.
/r/seduction04/06/26 05:53 PM
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Yeah there are of course exceptions to every rule. Would not create a baseline strategy based on that though. There are enough fat guys around, it's not like it helps anyone trying to date most women.
/r/seduction04/06/26 05:47 PM
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Brother. Stop being a total ass. Write your own content. Instead of rehashing shit that was JUST posted minutes ago. And IF you're going to repeat something someone else posted, then CREDIT them. What you're doing is just karma-farming by regurgitating what others posted. It's despicable behavior. Stealing their thoughts for your own gain and giving nothing in return. You're not even providing any value.
/r/seduction04/06/26 05:44 PM
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Why don't you write something new instead of copying other people. And also, you're not even crediting them?
/r/seduction04/06/26 05:05 PM
5

So you just repeated what the last post was saying?
/r/seduction04/06/26 04:06 PM
4

OK, so what happens when you try other age groups?
/r/seduction04/06/26 01:54 PM
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When you're at your lowest: Always focus health first. You cannot have a healthy mindset with an unhealthy body.. Unhealthy body -> unhealthy brain -> bad mindsets & emotions. Healthy body -> healthy brain -> perfect foundation for healthy emotions and positive mindsets. Your body and brain are insanely connected. Respect that.
/r/seduction04/06/26 01:44 PM
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What ages of women can you currently get? If the answer to that is "I can't get ANY", then just begin learning seduction like a skill just like everyone else. Honestly, there's nothing magic about a woman's age in how you must do something. They all respond to attractive men with seduction skills. Just do that. Do the basics well - then aim for the women you want.
/r/seduction04/06/26 01:41 PM
1

Yeah sometimes
/r/seduction04/06/26 01:28 PM
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I typically don't respond at all. Or if I do respond, it's very neutral like "no worries, take care!" Then don't really try to initiate anything for at least 1-2 weeks. If I even bother to try again. Usually I just move on to the next.
/r/seduction04/06/26 08:59 AM
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I don't like gimmicky, so I would say with a confident smile "I get that a lot, but no😉" It acknowledges you're aware how you come across to some people (signals social intelligence), but that you aren't bothered by that because you did you try to change it and nor are you embarassed or insecure. So I think it shows confidence and that by itself is attractive. You're comfortable with social pressure. You're confident with your masculinity.
/r/seduction04/06/26 07:08 AM
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That's not what creepy means, but ok
/r/seduction04/06/26 06:25 AM
1

How do you define "successful" and how misogynistic are we talking? Most men are slightly misogynistic, just like most people are slightly racist, and most women are slightly misandrist. The question is the degree. How bad is it? If it's mild, it's usually not a problem. If you're very misogynistic, you could still get casual sex and a relationship. But would it be a happy fulfilling relationship where your wife or girlfriend is deeply happy? Hell no. It would be a miserable relationship for her…
/r/seduction03/06/26 08:11 PM
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Practice and risk being seen as creepy or weird, or make her potentially uncomfortable. That is just a risk you have to take. The most important thing is that you practice. Not whether she likes you. Obviously, do NOT try to make anyone uncomfortable on purpose. That's not what I'm saying. I'm saying you should try talking to women and understand some won't like you, some will become uncomfortable, some will think you're creepy etc. That is just something you cannot avoid completely. Especially …
/r/seduction03/06/26 06:35 PM
1

It depends. You sit next to a chatty woman at the café and you look their way to interject a funny statement? Normal. You scan the entire room like you're the Terminator, then slowly cross the entire venue to chat with one particular woman in a corner of the room? Kinda weird and creepy. The point is: You should make it feel like you did not come here to chat with her. You were already here. Chatting with someone next to you was just convenient.
/r/seduction03/06/26 08:01 AM
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What is the "fundamental breaking point?" what does that mean?
/r/seduction02/06/26 05:51 PM
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There are levels to it. Choosing signals are the strongest signs you could look for, but there are lower levels that still provide value. Such as: 1. Venue (is this a place women feel safe and go to be social, or to meet guys?) 2. Approachability Slow walkers Not wearing headphones Loud chatters Laughing / smiling Wearing sexy outfits
/r/seduction02/06/26 05:04 PM
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Congratulations on the progress brother! If you go to any kind of meet-ups, or salsa classes in your area. I can assure you that you will meet quite a few single men there desperately hoping to meet women. These dudes are ripe pickings for wingmen. Find one you vibe with and ask if he wants to team up to help each other out with the ladies. Maybe start by inviting him to have a beer or something before you get into that stuff. Vibe first - propose wingmanning later.
/r/seduction02/06/26 12:13 PM
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Acknowledge the message coming from the fear, but do not let fear control your behavior. If you want a relationship, go and get it. Ignore the fear / override it. Do the right actions, and the right emotions will often follow
/r/seduction02/06/26 08:36 AM
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It's just fear... Fear of making the same mistakes. It's kind of like approach anxiety. Fear of fucking it up Fear is trying to keep you safe.
/r/seduction02/06/26 07:58 AM
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You are partially on the way there. Right now you're blaming her, yourself, and "relationships". Blaming yourself is good to some extent = that is where the learning happens. Overlooking her red flags and coming to grips with your neediness. Blaming her is also fine = she had problematic behaviors and treated you poorly in certain ways. Blaming relationships as a concept = this is where you still have some healing to do. It makes no sense to blame "relationships" as being inherently problematic.…
/r/seduction02/06/26 07:46 AM
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I haven't noticed this kind of thing at all. I think it's a combination valence and confirmation bias. Valence meaning: you remember it more because she was beautiful. If an average woman gave you eye contact you forget about it easier. So it creates a biased memory over time, which then leads you to form a wrong belief. Then you subconsciously look for more evidence to confirm that belief. Remember that your base assumption should be the null hypothesis (there's no association between how hot a…
/r/seduction02/06/26 06:47 AM
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I see you are not going to address anything I said. So you clearly have no argument against what I said. Seems perhaps you now understand your take was wrong? Women lying to protect themselves against certain men she is afraid of, is a right they have. And it doesn't say anything negative about her character whatsoever. It does say something about men's behavior though: That women feel like they can't be honest because certain men get very angry when they hear the truth. That is the real issue
/r/seduction01/06/26 06:50 PM
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You claim this woman is a liar and therefore a bad person. That is what you are implying very very strongly here. Women have legit reasons for lying in certain situations, like this, which is about safety from some very bad people (read: MEN) who can't take direct rejections without getting aggressive. So get of your high horse 😄 And stop judging women for lying to protect themselves when finding themselves in situations you would never encounter in your life. You should not be the one to judge …
/r/seduction01/06/26 06:35 PM
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It depends a bit how you met, what impression you've given prior to meeting on the date, what kind of woman she is and the vibe between you, and what you're looking for etc. If you met on tinder and you have "looking for short-term fun" on your dating-profile, do you think it's too forward? I don't think so.
/r/seduction01/06/26 04:46 PM
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Relationships, dating, sex, desires, communication-styles, values, lifestyle, family, goals. Make the topics relevant to dating. That is what makes it different from a lunch-break talk with a co-worker. Also talk about yourself as little as possible. People want to talk about themselves, so let them, but don't be like that yourself because it gives a selfish impression. How to change it to sexy vibes: Invite her home at some point during the date. It also helps to start the date in a sexy locati…
/r/seduction01/06/26 12:51 PM
2

Meh I dislike blondes with big booties so for me it sucks.
/r/seduction01/06/26 12:33 PM
2

Get pics in a suit too!
/r/seduction01/06/26 12:28 PM
2

Pictures is everything. Get multiple photoshoots many different outfits and locations. Test pics on Photofeeler I have WAYYY more success with women around own age. The younger I go, the more the pool shrinks. Or... let me rephrase that. The pool is still there with women in their early 20s. BUT they almost all want a sugar-daddy situation.
/r/seduction01/06/26 12:21 PM
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Right now: 14-15% ish. I go between about 9-18% depending on where I am in my bulk / cut cycle. But honestly, there is no difference between being 9% and 18% in my success rate. There's a big splash zone. If you look at studies on attraction women prefer men between 12-18% BF and they don't really seem to care that much where you are exactly as long as you look healthy. That has also been my experience.
/r/seduction01/06/26 12:03 PM
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Haven't been there, but have slept with a Khazakh woman that had recently moved to Poland. She was a bit reserved / romantic vibe, and very perceptive to any bullshit / game. Took some patience and very slow persistence over messages to get her to my place for the second date. Because I had "over-gamed". So be careful about pretending to be cooler than you are. Just be down to earth / yourself. Even in bed it took about 3-4 hours of cuddling and listening to music and talking about deep shit bef…
/r/seduction01/06/26 07:31 AM
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Reflecting / thinking / analyzing. If you're clueless, get outside help. I've also had great success from using Photofeeler to evaluate my pics. Especially the first photo.
/r/seduction01/06/26 07:08 AM
2

Try to get a threesome
/r/seduction01/06/26 07:08 AM
1

Just like you are. Stop pretending you're somehow morally superior. You are also lying all the time - just like everyone else. Lying is the social norm. It's social lubrication
/r/seduction01/06/26 07:07 AM
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37
/r/seduction31/05/26 07:29 PM
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177 cm / 5'10 if I stand up tall and stretch my neck up as high as possible. That's the height I put on dating profiles. If i stand normally I'm more like 175 cm / 5'9.
/r/seduction31/05/26 07:07 PM
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There are many things that play into whether you get matches on dating apps. Such as population density whether you pay and how much how active you are how picky you are when swiping which apps you use Etc. Also note that just because your female friends think your profile is OK, doesn't mean it's great. There's always room for improvement.
/r/seduction31/05/26 07:06 PM
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So I mostly rely on apps. And it was mostly just about Getting my looks, pics, and profile up to a level where I can get a lot of matches. Being in a big city. That's it. Not rocket science exactly. Having these two in place, means getting dates is very repeatable and easy. And from a date, converting to sex is also pretty easy.
/r/seduction31/05/26 06:11 PM
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Ahh yeah I've heard people try to to pull this "i'm just a tourist" card... You have to be able to change your accent completely and be a very very good actor that can keep a straight face for a long time. But this is honestly quite a dumb way to get laid. Because the chance that you will slip up is incredibly high. Much better - if you want to have the "foreigner" bonus, just go travel.
/r/seduction31/05/26 05:43 PM
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True. This is why less physically attractive dudes often try to appeal in other ways, or develop strategies like developing their sense of humor niche-down their target audience to an extreme degree, like going all-in on the Metal, Hiphop, Rave, Renaissance Fair, tattoo, or cosplay crowd ++ (many others). get moneyyyy develop social status / fame. Like becoming a politian, comedian, or notable Youtuber etc. passbort-broing
/r/seduction31/05/26 04:49 PM
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That's that old-fashioned judgemental attitude I was talking about. Get with the times grandpa because everyone uses dating-apps now. Time to stop judging and begin adapting to the new reality. Obviously cold approach is cool! That will never change. But don't shit on apps based on wrong ideas. They should both co-exist in your arsenal
/r/seduction31/05/26 02:58 PM
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When dating-apps were new, there was this massive stigma attached to using the apps. People had all kinds of negative assumptions about "dating-app users". Thinking they were low quality, losers because they could not find someone the "real way", or that they were all just loose sex-fiends that wanted to bang everyone and everything. Maybe you still carry some of those ideas? Where I live no-one bats an eye that a married couple met on Tinder. Almost no-one is shocked or has any negative judgeme…
/r/seduction31/05/26 02:56 PM
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I don't think Hinge is bad. Frankly, it doesn't matter much HOW you met someone. It just matters that you met them, and how well you match from that point forwards. Who cares if it was through an app or some other way? It doesn't matter
/r/seduction31/05/26 02:53 PM
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Yeah it indicates she's street-smart and safety minded
/r/seduction31/05/26 12:52 PM
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Hahah true yeah you can of course banter with it and it can be hilarious. When she asks for red flags in a woman - just begin describing her to a T. Like what she's wearing, what she looks like, that she would be asking about red flags etc. Great point
/r/seduction31/05/26 07:41 AM
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That is... what this subreddit is for. The entire sub is dedicated to provide tips for that. Be more specific perhaps?
/r/seduction30/05/26 07:20 PM
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Getting laid is pretty easy. You can just walk up to any man on the street and ask if he would like to hook-up. You should have like 30-50% success rate with that according to studies in which they tested this with a woman of average appearance.
/r/seduction30/05/26 05:23 PM
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The best framework / system is one that you develop for yourself. I have never met anyone that is a great seducer that just uses "someone else's system". They all developed their own. They have usually taken inspiration here and there from other guys, but that's about it. Today I follow that same philosophy. My own system is the best for me. I made it. I tested it. It suits my personality and the type of women I like. It works for me. I recommend you do the same. Make your own system. Test - ref…
/r/seduction30/05/26 04:30 PM
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It's less exhausting if you Heavily screen for women that want casual sex. Instead of screening over text, video chat or phone call is the best for that kind of negotiation. Although you can certainly have that chat over text too, as long as you aren't too direct or vulgar. Invite them to have casual sex during the first or second date. Simply don't do third dates if you did not get sex in the first two dates. Don't lie and pretend you want a relationship when you don't. This is exhausting to ke…
/r/seduction30/05/26 04:02 PM
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Statistics is the counting of what many people do / or what many people like. It can give a good idea of how the world works on average. But it is pretty useless when it comes to knowing something about one woman. So you need to understand the limits of statistics. Statistics can say that women, on average, as a group, prefer taller men. But it cannot tell you whether the three women around you right now, prefer your taller friend over you. Don't give statistics power it does not have. These thr…
/r/seduction30/05/26 03:43 PM
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To some extent it's easy to be confident when you're tall and handsome. But this is an area that you can actually be better than them. Confidence is a mental game / inner game. If you don't feel confident around taller men, that is an insecurity. Why do you feel inferior to them? You should not. A great example of a man that feels confident around taller men is Mighty Mouse (Demetrious Johnson). Just look at how he conducts himself around men that are way bigger than him. There is zero insecurit…
/r/seduction30/05/26 07:53 AM
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It sounds weird the first time you try it. But honestly, I've asked this like 20 times now and now it doesn't feel weird to me at all. Feels totally natural at this point. I think you just gotta try it man. More than once. Try it a few times. Risk rejection. You can bring it up totally out of the blue as a new topic, but the timing matters. It's good for when you're about to leave a venue (for example when you've finished your drinks).
/r/seduction30/05/26 07:48 AM
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This is not conclusive evidence that you're a bad texter. You could be a great texter and this could still happen to you. They could just not be interested in your profile for whatever other reason that had nothing to do with your text.
/r/seduction30/05/26 07:46 AM
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Just be honest? I answer these questions honestly. Here you go, these are my answers: Red flags in a woman: Entitled, disrespectful, impulsive, past cheater, reckless behavior, jaded, negative, habitual liar, not being able to apologize for anything, and not caring about by opinion. I think you get the gist. My red flags: Sexually liberal lifestyle. Cannot be monogamous. Brutally honest, a bit too brutal at times. Sometimes I lack a bit of empathy or it takes time for me to understand the other …
/r/seduction29/05/26 07:11 PM
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I mean the flirting / seduction skill aspect is completely identical to taller men. It's not like the seduction advice here doesn't apply to you because you're short. You are more or less like other dudes. You need to hit on women, you need to risk rejection, you need to learn social skills and how to be confident and charming and somewhat goodlooking like all the rest of us. The only thing being short does is make your dating-pool is smaller. That's all. Some women don't mind dating a short guy…
/r/seduction29/05/26 07:00 PM
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This is why you practice with total strangers or in a scenario with people you will not interact with much. Like, I first practiced flirting mostly from parties at total strangers house where I knew I would probably never see most of these people ever again. Then later I did an exchange program, and again - I knew I would probably never see these people again so I could flirt and FUCK IT UP without major consequence to my life. Later, I went and studied abroad again, and again - I could bomb as …
/r/seduction29/05/26 06:04 PM
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In that case I just say "want to see where I live?" after about 30 min - 1 hour into the date.
/r/seduction29/05/26 05:48 PM
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Gothcha. Thanks for clarifying and I can see how my message "for starters" could be misinterpreted. You bridge it very simply by inviting her to your place. And for that to sound safer / less scary etc. it's good to have some kind of excuse. Ever heard about "netflix and chill?" That has been such a common excuse that it's a cultural trope at this point. Don't use that exact phrase one since it's over-used. But find something similar. I think you get the idea. I often ask women what kind of thin…
/r/seduction29/05/26 04:48 PM
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It is one of the last steps in a long series of steps where asking her to come to the bedroom is the last step. USE LOGIC!!! Meet a girl on the street and ask her to your bedroom within 1 minute? You're a complete moron right? Wayyy too direct. But if you have invited a girl to your place on a first date and you're making out on your couch and now you invite her to the bedroom? Totally LOGICAL The point is: Get her to your bedroom. That is the goal. Now work backwards to figure out how to get he…
/r/seduction29/05/26 04:26 PM
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Hopefully you can make enough money to visit larger cities from time to time for some poontang
/r/seduction29/05/26 03:52 PM
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Too bad for choosing such an industry. Should have thought about that before you chose it
/r/seduction29/05/26 03:44 PM
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Invite her to your bedroom for starters.
/r/seduction29/05/26 03:09 PM
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This type of opener is good only as practice for complete noobs that need to practice open+close in one step, but it has an abysmally high failure rate since it's wayyyy too aggressive for most women to accept
/r/seduction29/05/26 12:17 PM
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the best opener I've found is "do you know a good place to get coffee around here?" Why? because the next thing you do after chatting is invite her to get that coffee with you.
/r/seduction29/05/26 11:24 AM
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In my own, and a lot of other guy's experience, it's 100% worth it to move to a bigger city. But if you don't believe me, here's a good test you can do to find out for yourself: Travel to the nearest very large city and rent an Airbnb there for a few days. See how you like the difference before making a choice.
/r/seduction29/05/26 10:37 AM
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Instagram allows users to tag locations in photos. Look up cafés nearby and see which women posted pictures of their Matcha for example
/r/seduction28/05/26 06:21 PM
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So what do you see mostly on the dating apps? What type of women are there in your area when swiping? What does a "catch" look like to you?
/r/seduction28/05/26 06:02 PM
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"I will let you know" is a soft rejection. It's not always a rejection for meeting you some other time in the future. But it's almost always a rejection for meeting you at that specified time you proposed. If she says this - assume the plans are off and give her space. Do NOT CALL HER! That just signals desperation and will just turn her from "probably no" to "hell no"
/r/seduction28/05/26 04:55 PM
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I respect your opinion, but disagree 100% with it. Single amazing women everywhere. It's like a fucking all-you-can eat buffét of Michelin star food.
/r/seduction28/05/26 03:41 PM
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Of course not. Go outside and meet single women. The people that say otherwise have NO GAME. Sorry losers, but seriously, the quality of amazing single women of all ages out there is beyond comprehension. There are single 10s all around. There are far more available than you could ever have the time to date. Every time I go date, I'm shocked at the quality out there. Y'all just have no game or are looking in the wrong places. I'm always amazed how many of these women are single. Break-ups happen…
/r/seduction28/05/26 03:35 PM
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You are delusional if you think this won't happen with like 99% of women. FWB is temporary! Understand that! You have a few options to convert the FWB to something else once the FWB free trial period has run its course. Choose your new subscription: Convert it to nothing / friendship and "break-up" Convert it to a deeper open-relationship Convert it to a standard monogamous relationship Take your pick. But you usually cannot stay in FWB land forever. That is extremely rare / unusual. Most women …
/r/seduction28/05/26 12:46 PM
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You know what the problem is, so the advice should be obvious - is it not? Become a people-person or at least begin acting like one. Lose weight Work on your social skills Make enough money to move out of your parents house. Move out of your parents house Go out without friends for nightgame Use dating-apps for times when you don't have time to go out or the weather is bad.
/r/seduction28/05/26 12:39 PM
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What I hear from pilots: For casual sex it's AWESOME. But for having a long-term relationship it SUCKS ASS. It's very difficult to be away from a girlfriend or wife for a loooong time, with very long shifts including night-shifts. Trying to maintain a healthy relationship long-term with one person under those conditions is very challenging. Lots of women cheat on husbands that have this type of job where they are gone for long stretches of time. Similar to off-shore workers (although maybe not a…
/r/seduction28/05/26 11:09 AM
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You should answer these questions: How jealous are you compared to most people? Do you feel some attraction towards women as well? Do you feel like he would respect you during a threesome scenario. For example, if you placed limits on what he could do with the other woman - do you think he would follow that? Does he have a history of respecting your boundaries or pushing your boundaries?
/r/seduction28/05/26 10:38 AM
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So them thinking you're wrong is and then spending 1 hour arguing with you is a WIN to you? That's a LOSS. This ain't seduction. That's verbal battling. It's incredibly bad game to say a woman is "gorgeous" before she's naked for a million different reasons. It accomplishes absolutely nothing positive UNLESS she's very ugly and has never heard things like that before. If you want to get to know a woman's depth: Just begin talking about that and skip the whole "you're gorgeous so let me make 20 a…
/r/seduction28/05/26 06:54 AM
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Doesn't matter if it's the worst way to communicate. What matters is preference. And most women prefer texting over calling. And most prefer to date men that know how to text well. Note you're also writing your comments here in text. Which you seem perfectly capable to do. So maybe your idea that your "texting sucks" is profoundly wrong. I don't see any issues with your texting here with me. So that begs the question: Why do you think your texting sucks?
/r/seduction28/05/26 06:41 AM
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Brother, it's like saying you can't talk. Texting is just as fundamental as talking since most times you are not in the same house - so the main option is texting. Especially when you're both at work. Saying you just can't figure it out is a cop-out. It's not taking responsibility for flaws that you could fix if you wanted to
/r/seduction27/05/26 03:49 PM
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The most common recommendation women give dudes in this situation is to leave your phone number on a piece of paper. That way, you leave the ball in her court and this is a bit more respectful when people are working.
/r/seduction27/05/26 08:56 AM
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Most people in your situation move to a bigger city. I know that can be difficult and might not be a realistic option right now. But I would at least begin to form an idea in your mind for how you might be able to move to a more populated area in the future. Because it's like a night-and-day difference in your dating-success. You say the nearest city is an hour and a half away. And you have no reason to go. Uhm... You want a relationship or date women or have sex? Is that not enough reason to go…
/r/seduction27/05/26 07:46 AM
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Texting is a non-negotiable skill imo. In long-term relationships, most partners are texting each other all the time.
/r/seduction27/05/26 07:26 AM
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You can either make yourself a more attractive option and become a better texter, or you can lower your standards. Or both. You can also move to greener pastures.
/r/seduction26/05/26 07:12 PM
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Hitler was quite good at seducing women. Just sayin
/r/seduction26/05/26 03:06 PM
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True, I agree that a dating-coach can help with the outer game stuff. But I believe a therapist is better at inner game issues. OP seems to suffer more from inner game issues. Note that this is just form of social anxiety. And therapists are usually treating people with social anxiety ALL the time. It's incredibly common issue for them to deal with. Ask a dating-coach how to deal with that and he will say "just approach more". And that does address one part of the issue (exposure therapy), but d…
/r/seduction25/05/26 08:34 PM
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Getting laid causes just as many mental health issues as not getting laid.
/r/seduction25/05/26 08:29 PM
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This question is not relevant to our discussion at all. But I'll answer it anyway. She can give help, but will also assume the man has ulterior motives. She doesn't need to decline giving help just because of this assumption. She doesn't have to actively reject a guy that is not actively showing romantic intentions overtly. This is what provides the safety of the indirect approach. That is part of what makes it work. It lowers defenses just enough because of the slight probability that she may h…
/r/seduction25/05/26 06:40 PM
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hmmm... to some extent maybe. But it's not the full story. Early ejaculation is not just based on the position / activity. It's often mental, based on masturbation habits. Insecurity or selfishness can also make a guy cum faster.
/r/seduction25/05/26 03:46 PM
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There was never one thing / one tip that drastically improved my game when it comes to seduction. And frankly, I doubt there exists any such tip. That's magic-pill thinking. No-one becomes great at something based on following just "one tip". It took thousands of small tips to get good at it. It's a process that takes time. There is no magic pill / silver bullet to this game. Most need to learn and practice a lot to get good results. The only exception is if you're already extremely attractive e…
/r/seduction25/05/26 08:53 AM
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Bigger cities typically easier in my view. Just a LOT more options, more open minded women. More younger women, more people to swipe on. And more anonymity when cold approaching. But New York city is not a normal big city. You're competing against a LOT of millionaires. There are big cities, and then there are big cities that are filled with rich men. New York is a very unique case that attracts rich men from all over the world. If you get super rich anywhere in the world, chances are you may wa…
/r/seduction25/05/26 08:26 AM
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Sounds like you should get a therapist. Not a dating-coach. At least start with the therapy first before you add a coach to the mix. Drinking, anxiety, and problems getting "past yourself" - this is fantastic material for a therapist. A dating-coach can help you more with what to actually do and say. But dating-coaches aren't the best for dealing with drinking, anxiety and problems getting past yourself. Those are largely inner-game / thinking-pattern issues.
/r/seduction25/05/26 08:20 AM
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100% can work. Recommend to read up on it though, since it's more complicated and more technical / challenging.
/r/seduction25/05/26 07:47 AM
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What you feel is mutual attraction. When you have it without doing anything, it means things will typically go very easy for you. You can still have success with women without this initial strong mutual attraction, but that usually requires a bit more thinking, cunning, and effort.
/r/seduction24/05/26 06:35 PM
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Yeah same here. That's why I do open relationship. But I still fall in love, and know how to develop this deeper love over time through investing. BUT I really make sure I pick women with good personalities. Someone I can picture hanging out with for years. If I don't get that feeling I know she's not right for me. From all the women I sleep with, I typically can only picture a relationship with maybe 1 out of 10.
/r/seduction24/05/26 06:23 PM
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Yes, this worked for me repeatedly.
/r/seduction24/05/26 06:22 PM
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The 4-8 month honeymoon is a cocktail of "drugs" that feels like the "in love" feeling. This fades for everyone. It's not something unique with your DNA in this sense. Everyone experiences that "passionate love" dies. For some it takes 1 month, some 2 years. But no-one feels the intense feeling of fresh love forever. In healthy relationship - passionate love is gradually replaced by companionate love after that honeymoon phase. Companionate love is developed by your own investment into the relat…
/r/seduction24/05/26 06:09 PM
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No, it doesn't. When you approach indirectly, she still knows you're interested in her. Or will make that assumption whatever comes out of your mouth. There's no surprise. There's no "flip". It's all hitting on her. It's just a less thirsty and aggressive version of it.
/r/seduction24/05/26 05:58 PM
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It should reduce, but personally it has never "gone away" completely. And I think it's because: You're breaking a social norm. That doesn't go away. You still risk rejection, and you're biologically built to avoid that. These are older parts of your brain evolutionarily speaking and you can't just "out-think" it with clever reframing. Old brain overrules it. You get a same type of "gut" response from breaking social norms. You still care to some extent about the outcome. Whenever you care about …
/r/seduction24/05/26 10:51 AM
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A good question to ask her is "how do you protect yourself against Stds?" If a girl says "oh I just sleep with guys that don't have them".. or "I have just been lucky" or "nobody here has Stds" or "I don't have sex drunk" something incredibly naive and dumb like that - put on your clothes and get out. You can also ask "when did you last get tested?" I got out of a date after asking this. We talked about sex and she said she had slept with about 80 dudes, but NEVER got tested because she "did not…
/r/seduction24/05/26 06:38 AM
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I did not say anywhere to follow with "sexual aggression". I did not say that term at all. Going for a close is not sexually aggressive. It's just asking for contact info or instant date. Very innocent.
/r/seduction23/05/26 07:53 PM
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Either accept that she will act like this or find another woman.
/r/seduction23/05/26 07:49 AM
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Compliment, but objectifying. These women usually fetishize men that look a certain way into a perceived stereotype that is sexually a turn-on for them. Totally fine if you like to take advantage of it and bang those women. Just keep in mind that they don't really know you. They just like your "color / look" and they may have some preconceived ideas about you that may be wrong. For example, if you're black, they may assume you have a big dick. If you're latino, they may think you make "passionat…
/r/seduction22/05/26 04:15 PM
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I have used it. Gullible women think it's very interesting, but honestly it comes across like a gimmick. This type of thing is not normal conversation. It's this "I am a mind reader mentalist" type of vibe. "Here's this special conversational trick I have"... That makes it come across as try-hard and weird / strange. Most people that are socially intelligent don't rely on such gimmicks or tricks. I never use the Cube nowadays. I only used it when I was a beginner virgin. Don't recommend you use …
/r/seduction22/05/26 02:21 PM
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I find it to be a good sign if she sucks my dick. I think it might mean she likes me, but maybe she's just being friendly
/r/seduction22/05/26 02:20 PM
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I prefer it when people write on this sub without trying to promote their sex-services
/r/seduction22/05/26 11:41 AM
1

Best of luck brother!
/r/seduction22/05/26 09:10 AM
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Shy women are seduced through therapy-talk. She's insecure, gives uncomfortable signals and all that. You call it out, say "you seem uncomfortable, is that correct?" and then you basically give them a free therapy session where you help them to feel more confident, secure, self-assured etc. At least to some extent. Obviously big change takes time. But the point is: You begin the healing process of their social anxiety. To do this "therapy": Your goal is to figure out why she's insecure, you ask …
/r/seduction21/05/26 06:32 PM
1

Based on what I found on Google: "Warm-up time" in dating refers to the psychological and physiological adjustment period needed to feel comfortable, open, and physically or emotionally intimate with a new romantic interest. It is the process of shedding initial nerves, building trust, and organically establishing romantic chemistry or sexual arousal So... is that what you meant? Because if so, it seems you perfectly agree with my post. And the rest of your comment also seems to agree with my po…
/r/seduction21/05/26 06:28 PM
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That's probably the ideal goal then. Another 5-6 kg.
/r/seduction21/05/26 02:08 PM
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Notice you wrote that you felt more confident when you lost some weight. So maybe your interactions are better from the increased confidence alone. At what weight would you feel your most confident? I think that is the number you should aim for.
/r/seduction21/05/26 01:15 PM
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Prefer oral without condom over penetrative sex with condom. But penetrative sex without condom = most intimate.
/r/seduction21/05/26 12:29 PM
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Jupp. Agreed. I like to see it that way too. I think a 10 is top 5% for her age bracket. a 9 is top 10% 8 top 20% 7 top 30% 6 top 40% 5 average score 4 bottom 40% 3 bottom 30% 2 bottom 20% 1 bottom 10%
/r/seduction21/05/26 11:53 AM
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Great question. The most important thing is to get to know your city. Make it your mission to know where people go to socialize outside. And what types of venues and events have what type of people in it. Pay attention on "facebook events" and other platforms about social stuff going on. Generally, In order from best to worst: Social events where single people specifically go to be social. Downside? Usually costs money. Bars and nightclubs. Generally socially acceptable to meet single strangers …
/r/seduction21/05/26 07:05 AM
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what is warming time
/r/seduction21/05/26 06:45 AM
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Sure thing! I don't like to tell you exactly what to say, because I believe you should figure the exact words out on your own in the moment. But here are some frameworks that I use: You said you see them on train, street, café and just go. OK, so are you actually looking for women with higher approachability? For example, women that are ovulating walk slower. If a woman is wearing headphones it signals she doesn't want to be bothered. If she locks eyes with you for longer than a split second, th…
/r/seduction20/05/26 07:59 PM
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I think it also speaks to the fact that cold approaching is becoming less normal as people instead use social media like dating apps, or other social media apps - to find someone to date. So when you cold approach nowadays you are more likely to be seen as a weirdo compared to back then when cold approach was more common as there was few other options. It could also have to do with the language used in the approach, as it may become dated over time. The verbiage feels a bit dated nowadays.
/r/seduction20/05/26 07:52 PM
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That was in the original study in 1989 that they're talking about. In this replication study from 2025, women just declined the man for everything at a very high rate. But men said yes to both dates and sex much more often than the women. So in 1989, you would be correct - there was no gender difference for the date proposal. In 2025, in Germany - you're probably not correct because they found a large gender difference.
/r/seduction20/05/26 07:42 PM
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Sorry to say, your assumption is wrong. Check: https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/39661065/ Men were very likely to accept a date request from an average looking female stranger right after her opener. This study was funnily enough also done in Germany.
/r/seduction20/05/26 07:36 PM
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This approach is notoriously bad because you aren't understanding women's psychology. You are a stranger. When you approach them out of nowhere, they are afraid of you. They automatically think you're weird and creepy when you approach in the way you're approaching. You are breaking social norms, you're being too sexually aggressive. They feel scared, and they usually will turn you down even if they're single, attracted to you, and horny. You need to learn to approach in a way that Doesn't make …
/r/seduction20/05/26 07:27 PM
1

Could work, why not.
/r/seduction20/05/26 07:03 PM
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Great job for not only approaching, but also going for the close!! This is 90% of the way there! I also started with these types of ultra-direct approaches with a closer attached. They are great for practicing open + close, and don't require much thinking or creativity in the moment. So to begin with it's awesome. Just keep in mind that such direct approaches have a very high rejection-rate, because she simply doesn't trust you and you're a total stranger. So it's normal for women to be very def…
/r/seduction20/05/26 05:30 PM
1

Why are you on this sub if that is your opinion. This sub is specifically for those who disagree with that take.
/r/seduction20/05/26 04:21 PM
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As someone that has actually had threesomes: It did not have a big effect on the relationship. But it's important to note that both of us wanted to try it. We did it multiple times. I'm now in a new relationship with someone that doesn't want to try it. And I 100% respect that so we don't try. If I pushed her to try, then it would most likely cause major issues.
/r/seduction20/05/26 12:05 PM
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Pretended I went to Stanford. Yeah... that one made me feel shitttt after. It backfired in the way that I could not get my dick to stand up during sex because of the guilt.
/r/seduction20/05/26 07:52 AM
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Nuance: Ask her out. It's much better to show you're attracted to her by doing something, rather than saying something. Huge difference between asking her out on date versus just saying you're attracted to her. Asking for the date is 100 times better.
/r/seduction20/05/26 07:51 AM
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Yes, they know I'm hitting on them AFTER they feel safe with me. That's the difference. The gay guys that hit on you indirectly made you feel unsafe and creeped out. Erego: They failed to make you feel safe. Second guy, while being direct - made you feel safe. You're conflating this with "indirect versus direct" when it was primarily about feeling safe versus unsafe. That guy who asked you to make-out got you to feel safe not because he was direct, but because he was relaxed and gave the vibe it…
/r/seduction20/05/26 07:40 AM
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I have typically asked if they know a good place to grab a quick bite or coffee nearby, and then ask if they want to join me while I wait for a friend that's coming in a bit. Gotten a few instant dates from this.
/r/seduction19/05/26 07:32 PM
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After the indirect excuse I will typically invite them on an instant-date with a false time-constraint.
/r/seduction19/05/26 06:38 PM
1

It's always based on some pseudoscience BS too. Whatever they can grasp onto to defend their views.
/r/seduction19/05/26 05:35 PM
2

How do you know women feel that security with you when you just cold approached them 30 seconds ago?
/r/seduction19/05/26 03:21 PM
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Lookmaxxers were told a lie growing up: That "looks doesn't matter". When they eventually figure out they were lied to, the pendulum of their worldview swings to the complete opposite extreme end, which is "looks is the only thing that matters". This knee-jerk reaction and the pendulum swinging "too far the other way" is quite normal, especially among teenagers, and especially among those that are already extremely distressed because they don't have success with women. As people get older (more …
/r/seduction19/05/26 01:09 PM
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Women like bad guys they already know and feel like they can trust. A bad guy that can protect her from threats. They don't like random stranger bad guys approaching them on the street. Those guys are the perceived threat she wants protection from.
/r/seduction19/05/26 12:19 PM
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The number 1 reason women reject men that cold approach is SAFETY. Your Russian accent is probably already making them hear 10 alarm-bells going off at once. To English-speakers, the Russian accent is often described as the most scary of them all. In the West, many movies have bad-guys with Russian accents. So people learn to associate Russian accent with "bad guy". So how can you soften your approach and seem safer? Smile, dress in lighter colors, start with an initial excuse for why you're app…
/r/seduction19/05/26 08:57 AM
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Lol. well I get it, but at the same time would you drive someone's car so they can commit a robbery? Because you would be helping someone commit immoral behavior which does not leave you off the hook ethically speaking.
/r/seduction19/05/26 08:39 AM
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Seems like she texted you, then blocked you. Maybe she's in a relationship with another dude, and had a split second of loneliness and thoughts of cheating?
/r/seduction19/05/26 08:32 AM
1

Fair. You can have an ethical framework of being a better person by pondering what personal moral rules you want to follow, and maybe write them down for easy memory. This makes it easier to follow. Your own "commandments". That's what I did. They're structured around informed consent and minimizing harm to others.
/r/seduction19/05/26 08:02 AM
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So then you need to solve the fear in various ways. Accountability is not the solution to overcome fear.. Fear-reducing tactics is the solution to overcome fear. Right tool for the right problem.
/r/seduction19/05/26 08:00 AM
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What is stopping you? I don't see what being "good" and religion has to do with each other. You can be good with or without religion. If you think religion isn't manipulation - boy.. do I got news for you. Religion is probably the most effective tool to manipulate the masses (often to do unspeakable evil).
/r/seduction18/05/26 07:50 PM
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just took opportunities to be social. there are so many, just look around you. I'm sure you can just go on facebook events and find 10 opportunities to be social within 2 minutes.
/r/seduction18/05/26 04:08 PM
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10 is super attractive 9 very attractive 7 attractive Don't overthink it. The higher the number the hotter the person. It's a mostly a subjective rating of physical attractiveness.
/r/seduction18/05/26 03:17 PM
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I met a few on dating-apps. But traveling is key. You gotta fish in different pools with better odds. You can still fish 10s on dating-apps being an 8. But you have to have that special-something. Like being from a different country, or having some kind of unique selling-point that sets you apart from the male 10s on the app. Heavily leaning into a sub-group can work. another tip is to have something in common with models. Think about what you might have in common with female models and cater yo…
/r/seduction18/05/26 03:12 PM
1

Hmm.... I use porn a few times per week, and haven't noticed much downsides to my real-world results to be honest. I think it depends on the individual. I don't think "it destroys your brain reward system" is accurate. Like, I still have dopamine a-plenty, also with porn use. It's not like my desire for real women has declined just because I also use porn
/r/seduction18/05/26 03:09 PM
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I'm sorry what? I practice my social skills by being social. Not using some loser app. Go talk to human beings
/r/seduction18/05/26 02:46 PM
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Yeah, if you're addicted and porn / masturbation is taking up too much time.
/r/seduction18/05/26 02:45 PM
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Makes sense, because I was never THAT out of shape. So my visual transformation wasn't as drastic as I'm guessing yours was.
/r/seduction18/05/26 12:17 PM
2

On the days you do 0 or 1 approach. What holds you back from doing 5?
/r/seduction18/05/26 11:55 AM
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I stopped all masturbation and and porn for 1 year: That did nothing to change my dating-life. I got lean and stopped eating bullshit: In general, people treat me better - including women show more interest earlier on. It makes things easier. Increased social skills: This improved my dating-life the most. I would say 80-90% of my improved dating-life can be attributed to this, specifically just shooting my shot more often.
/r/seduction18/05/26 11:54 AM
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What does this have to do with seduction? The seduction part is already over, and you failed. Next. Why spend energy on finding a perfect reply after it's already done? That's such a pathetic way to be spending your time and mental energy. How about you don't reply them at all? I mean it literally doesn't fuckin matter if you respond or not, or what you respond if you do. It's all a pointless ego exercise.
/r/seduction17/05/26 07:56 PM
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Sorry, I just updated my comment as you replied: Such as looks, honesty, career, commonalities, humor, cultural background, values, empathy, ambition, life goals etc. etc.
/r/seduction17/05/26 12:22 PM
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To make it simple to understand, here's how I see it: TOP LEVEL: GAME (using social skills to seduce someone) UNDER THIS UMBRELLA OF GAME: Applied confidence, flirting, teasing, escalating, humor etc. etc. They are all different social skills applied under the game-umbrella. They are just tools in the toolbox. Then you asked essentially: Why does a man that shows confidence get rejected? Answer: Because women aren't just responding to confidence. They're responding to almost everything about a m…
/r/seduction17/05/26 12:18 PM
1

Well it seems we agree then. First you need to get her to invest emotions. Then you can suggest a date. This is exactly what I said in my other comments.
/r/seduction17/05/26 10:44 AM
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So what's the problem with asking for a date early? I get, not immediately. First you have to build the emotions and get some interest like I mentioned. But this doesn't have to take long. Just a few messages (5-10) can sometimes be enough.
/r/seduction17/05/26 08:10 AM
1

You are from Algeria. Are the women you message also from Algeria?
/r/seduction17/05/26 08:05 AM
1

The overal goal of texting should be to: Develop some positive emotions towards you / interest / attraction / trust. Get the date. When you say that your initial communication is about "getting information from her" like school, age etc. Does this sound like it would spark positive emotions towards you - or does it sound like you're asking her to fill out an application form? To me, it sounds more like the latter. If someone asked me questions like they wanted me to fill out a form, I would lose…
/r/seduction17/05/26 07:57 AM
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Find an excuse. An opener is always an excuse to talk to someone. It can be any excuse. For example, it could be asking if he knows what's good to get to drink at this particular bar. Coming up with excuses / openers on the spot is sometimes hard: So this is something you may want to practice actively in your mind before you even get to the venue. What other excuses could you come up with to chat with a dude at a bar?
/r/seduction16/05/26 08:26 PM
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I think it's a false choice. Why do you have to pick from two bad sets to approach? Scan the room and look for women with higher approachability. Make your life easier. That said, if you can squeeze in besides one of the sets to order a drink, you can excuse yourself and sometimes get into a chat that way. For groups, always open the friend or male buddy first. Not your target.
/r/seduction16/05/26 06:26 PM
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Cool beans! What was the approach?
/r/seduction16/05/26 03:16 PM
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A good rule of thumb is to show some interest initially, and then wait and see what he does with it. Does he respond in kind? From there, you establish some sort of baseline. At this point: Try to keep the effort between you around 50/50. If he does more effort with communication, then you can afford to also do more to match him. If you're doing a lot more than him - then that's your sign to back off until it's balanced again. This balance makes it feel like you're at the same level. You're not …
/r/seduction16/05/26 02:23 PM
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First, make sure you have reasonable privacy. So either you're surrounded by people in the middle of the dance-floor or you're sitting in a dark corner. Then literally just put your face slowly closer to her face and look at her lips. If she wants to kiss, she will lean forwards and complete the kiss. If she doesn't want to kiss, she will lean away or turn her cheek. Keep it stupid simple. Don't use gimmicks. Those gimmicks can work and they can be fun, but they also come across as gimmicky and …
/r/seduction16/05/26 07:15 AM
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I think "classes" are not the best place to meet women for dating. Most women go to classes because they're interested in classes. Not meeting men. When women want to meet men for dating, they typically do a few things: They go on dating-apps They go to bars and nightclubs, often with some other female friends for security and added fun. They go to social events and parties, such as Halloween parties (or any other holiday), concerts, festivals, shows, galeries, food festivals etc. Any social eve…
/r/seduction15/05/26 07:47 PM
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To be a happy person, most people require frequent social interaction, as well as some deeper relationships with friends at the bare minimum. But ideally also a lover or romantic partner. If humans don't get this, then they tend to feel lonely and sad. And if that lonely and sad feeling persists over many months, we call it depression. One of the cures of depression is being social. And seeking out romantic prospects is a very effective way to be social. There's nothing wrong with this. It's goo…
/r/seduction15/05/26 05:57 PM
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While women mean different things depending on the situation and who she is, oftentimes an "exciting guy" means that he is socially engaging to interact with. He knows how to keep her on her toes emotionally / verbally / with jokes, humor - flirting, witty retorts, smart thoughtful questions etc. Not the type of guy that just sends "hey" as a message and then expects her to carry the conversation and engage him socially. She wants to be engaged by him. She wants to feel something emotionally whe…
/r/seduction15/05/26 04:08 PM
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Depression is usually not attractive. BUT, you had several other qualities that made you attractive in this scenario: Not giving a fuck what others think / not validation seeking You're tall You're handsome You got preselection from the first girl liking you You were non-needy / non-desperate You acted somewhat disinterested in her, which can make you a challenge and signal higher value
/r/seduction15/05/26 08:00 AM
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thanks for revealing your uncomplicated worldview
/r/seduction15/05/26 07:40 AM
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It's too late to go into the gym, and not have "approaching possible" on your mind. Then you're mentally turned off from approaching. It's like you need to start the mental approaching engine prior to entering a location. You go into a location, in this case it's a gym. And already before you arrive you are already imagining yourself approaching there. Thinking about scenarios, what you could say etc. You cannot start that engine cold in just a minute. You have to start that engine well in advan…
/r/seduction14/05/26 05:22 PM
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ONE woman says something. Your claim: All women are the same 😂 This logical leap is just as silly as when some women say that "all men are the same" after they hear about one man cheating, and then they assume all men will cheat.
/r/seduction14/05/26 03:23 PM
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Well yeah, social life is happening more on our phones nowadays. Including dating. If you're not utilizing social media and dating apps - you are probably missing out. Because most people get their dates through some kind of online interaction first.
/r/seduction14/05/26 02:52 PM
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This is why you open the friends first, and win them over before you focus on your actual target. Win the trust of her bodyguard, and her bodyguard will let you smash.
/r/seduction13/05/26 08:01 AM
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In what ways do you feel they act different?
/r/seduction13/05/26 07:40 AM
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Sounds like "ring rust". You just haven't been in the game for a while, and you have some nerves around getting back in there. Totally normal. I think it will go away on it's own once you get some reps in. Just begin and things will probably improve quickly and you'll get back into a groove.
/r/seduction12/05/26 07:57 PM
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What is it that makes you "dorky to women" in your view? Would love to get some more info before I give any advice
/r/seduction12/05/26 07:53 PM
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Question: When you say "respectfully". Why did you add a disrespectful statement following it? Maybe think a bit before you say something :-) Rude ass.
/r/seduction12/05/26 06:16 PM
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Depends on the situation
/r/seduction12/05/26 06:14 PM
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What is a "more effective" treatment than CBT? In head to head trials, CBT does equally well to many other forms of therapy for depression. But so far, no therapy has done better than CBT. So I'm wondering what data you're looking at. That said, some people may not respond well to one therapy form, and then they should try another. More important is the relationship with the therapist though. More important than the method.
/r/seduction12/05/26 06:43 AM
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You can usually tell by going up to her, chatting with her, and asking for her number.
/r/seduction11/05/26 04:45 PM
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Thanks for the info! What are your conversations like? What topics do you talk about? What is the vibe in the conversation? Is it playful, is it funny, is it friendly, is it mellow, is it deep, is it superficial, is it philosophical, is it debate-like, is it interview-mode, is it flirtatious, is it sex-oriented, is it simple fact-exchange or what? Dinner is a bad date idea usually. Why? because a lot of women will agree to this date request just for free food even if they have no interest in you…
/r/seduction11/05/26 02:03 PM
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What do you do? What is your approach? Give us some breakdown of what you do on dates. The more details the better. We can't go off just "I struggle and I fumble". We can't help unless we know what you're doing wrong. So give some details that can give clues as to what mistakes you're possibly making
/r/seduction11/05/26 07:12 AM
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There's not just one solution to solving self-esteem. You gotta attack it through at least two angles. This is the cognitive-behavioral-therapy Triangle: Emotion, Action, Thought. You want to change an emotion? Change thoughts and action. Self esteem is feeling bad for yourself. You change that by reframing negative beliefs. And you take action. Both are necessary. One is not enough. Just taking action is not enough. At the same time - NOT taking action won't be enough ether. You have to experie…
/r/seduction10/05/26 07:48 PM
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And that is why you suffer. Because you keep a victim-mentality. Weak mindset. Don't dare to get rejected, so you don't, so you suck at game, don't have success at dating, etc. etc. It's so funny when guys are so confident about world-views that have only brought them more emotional misery and worse real-world outcomes.
/r/seduction10/05/26 07:42 PM
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Every man gets rejected. So do you believe every man is worthless? Guys with tons of value get rejected by a lot of people if they do cold approach. Because women cannot assess their full worth in a few seconds to a few minutes of interacting. They just can judge his behavior / his approach. Not his worth. So saying a man gets rejected because of his "worth" is a silly take. Men, rarely if ever get approached. I think in my lifetime I've been approached by women less than 10 times from birth unt…
/r/seduction09/05/26 06:08 PM
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There's nothing horrible about rejection. And that is something you should learn by getting rejected hundreds of time and realizing it wasn't such a big deal. I remember back in the early days of seduction, some guys were challenging themselves to get 100 rejections in a single day just to get over that. Learning that they were still OK after.
/r/seduction09/05/26 05:59 PM
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I don't think you should just try one thing. Like just cold approach, just apps, just social circle game. When you're single - use time effectively and do it all. When it's raining and no-one is outside: Use dating-apps. When it's sunny and everyone is outside: Go daygame. When it's saturday night and people go party: Go nightgame. etc. Your results are actually very encouraging. I think I did about 40 approaches before I got my first phone number.
/r/seduction09/05/26 05:09 PM
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You can 100% tell people to stop behaving that way, because behaving in the right way and seeing that it's OK (nothing horrible happened) can go a long way to solving someone's self-esteem issues. Self esteem issues are not just solved by thinking. They're also solved by doing. Pushing yourself to do things you're afraid of doing.
/r/seduction09/05/26 04:50 PM
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Yes, agreed. Everyone can improve no matter their starting point or genetics. But not everyone will learn at the same pace or reach the same height of success.
/r/seduction09/05/26 04:26 PM
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Alcohol / drugs
/r/seduction09/05/26 03:06 PM
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Have the courage to be disliked
/r/seduction09/05/26 03:00 PM
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What do you want? I don't get it. Cut your losses? Why? You want this girl or not? What does your heart desire? I'm baffled. On the one hand you're talking about wanting to fuck her. On the other, you're talking about breaking it off. So which one is actually your goal? Because these goal are on complete opposite ends of the spectrum.
/r/seduction09/05/26 02:41 PM
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It's hard to put a number on it. Hard for some, easy for others. Just like any social skill. We have heard from famous comedians that stepped on stage for the very first time and KILLED IT. The crowd loved them. So for them, doing comedy was easy. But for many others it's the complete opposite - they may have bombed their first 20 performances and nothing comes naturally to them. They have to learn everything step by step and it's very convoluted and complicated for them to wrap their head aroun…
/r/seduction09/05/26 02:33 PM
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Well, yeah of course - if you want to approach and they seem approachable. To improve your chances, it's mostly about signs of approachability or approach invitations (like returning prolonged eye contact). Ethnicity has nothing to do with it. If a white woman is checking you out - obviously make a move if you find her attractive. Whether she's white or brown doesn't matter. Any ethnicity can find you attractive, and women of any ethnicity will find you attractive. If you hit on enough women, yo…
/r/seduction09/05/26 07:44 AM
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Good questions! But no, I don't think technology has made any difference in pickiness since then. Back then I was using an old Nokia brick phone to text, or I would flirt with women over Microsoft Messenger. All in all, that was quite similar to today.
/r/seduction08/05/26 02:47 PM
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When I started trying to use "game / seduction" in 2010 - 2015. It was just as difficult as today and women were just as picky. They would get just as easily turned off by any random "mistake" or perceived tiny flaw back then as today. I've noticed zero difference in terms of things supposedly changing since then. I don't see any cultural shift. Others may perceive something. Not discounting your experience if you've noticed a change. I just haven't personally noticed any change. To me, women ha…
/r/seduction08/05/26 02:17 PM
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OK, I see, your point is essentially women are very picky. And you think this is a new thing / a change in the dating culture as of late? That women changed? Did I get that right?
/r/seduction08/05/26 01:53 PM
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You specifically said attractive men. So these are the men we are talking about that have a lot of options, or? Or is your belief that attractive men don't have options? If so, why do you think they're attractive? Maybe men you think are attractive are not attractive to women? The male gaze is different from the female gaze.
/r/seduction08/05/26 01:37 PM
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Have you considered many attractive men are single by choice, or that they're at the very least quite picky when it comes to committing to a single woman?
/r/seduction08/05/26 01:15 PM
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Maybe you're on one of these facebook groups some women go to "are we dating the same guy"? Kinda thing
/r/seduction08/05/26 12:22 PM
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well, sure, but there are plenty of dudes who are rich that still struggle getting girls.
/r/seduction08/05/26 12:22 PM
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Gotcha. What does someone see if they Google your Instagram user-name?
/r/seduction08/05/26 08:48 AM
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The impression you give off on the dating app versus your Instagram account is possibly different. Are you using the exact same pictures? Do you give off the same vibe? How is your bio on dating apps versus on instagram? Who are you following? If a girl sees that you're just following a large percentage of women, or especially sexy women - many will see it as a red flag.
/r/seduction08/05/26 08:39 AM
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Yes, we all know money and looks matter. But this sub is mostly about seduction as a social skill. "all women care about is looks and money" is a myth many guys believe because they have bad or mediocre seduction skills (or their skills are capped out due to genetic ceiling). Or because they simply haven't been around poor, ugly guys with great game so they can't fathom it being a real concept that those guys can have a lot of success.
/r/seduction08/05/26 07:26 AM
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It's rarely important. What is more important is to not appear weak. Don't confuse or mix "masculine = strong" and "feminine = weak". There are many flamingly gay guys that come across very feminine, but also very strong and confident. If you come across as pretty confident and self-assured, you're fine. But if you come across weak and insecure - only a smaller subset of women will be into you (those women that enjoy being the dominant one).
/r/seduction07/05/26 06:49 AM
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Super common. A first date with some chemistry is often "throwaway material" for people that can get first dates easily. I will say though, that in certain cases - your experience can also happen due to lack of physical escalation on your end.
/r/seduction07/05/26 06:47 AM
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You found something that works for you. That's great!! That doesn't mean that the things that don't work for you are bad. Dating apps do work for a lot of people, like myself, they just don't work for you - and that's ok. Just understand there's a big difference between "doesn't work for me" and "is bad for everyone" - that's a leap in logic.
/r/seduction07/05/26 06:38 AM
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In my view, you're not a loner. The way I see it, loners are people that have no friends and struggle socially. You have friends and don't seem to struggle socially. So I would put you more in an "introvert" category over a "loner" category.
/r/seduction06/05/26 07:09 PM
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Arguing with feminists is not seduction. I don't think this is the right sub for this
/r/seduction06/05/26 05:13 PM
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Every woman is different. Some know right away, some after a certain amount of time, and some don't even know but still sleep with a guy because they're too agreeable for their own good or have problems establishing boundaries. It also depends on the specific guy. The same woman can meet one guy and want to fuck him right away. Then she can meet another guy, that she first wanted to fuck 6 months after meeting him. So there are no hard, clear rules here. Everyone is different and it differs even…
/r/seduction06/05/26 05:02 PM
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Sure, it's unattractive for a whole lot of reasons: It can signal to her that other people may dislike the loner, so she may wonder why that loner is so dislikable. She can begin to look for flaws to figure this out why no-one wants to hang out with him or be his friend. We often look to other people's opinions to determine the "likability" of a person. And a loner probably has a poor record of other people liking him. So it counts like a negative Yelp review on him as a person. Loners don't hav…
/r/seduction06/05/26 04:51 PM
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Of course it matters, but you're completely missing the point: The goal is to Stay actionable. People cannot do anything about their age, ethnicity, or genetic appearance. So none of that is actionable. Telling a guy "you're the wrong age" or "your ethnicity is the problem" or "your inborn qualities hold you back" is not actionable. It does nothing to help a dude. Actionable means you can do something about it. If you can't do something about it, it's not worth discussing much. The sub is about …
/r/seduction06/05/26 04:36 PM
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Rules of this sub: Content that assumes the over-importance of the following will be taken down: Race Age Physical appearance or limitations Swoleness or inborn qualities. Keep things actionable. No-one gives a shit about someone's looks and ethnicity here. It's about seduction here, as a social skill. It's not a looks-maxxing or race-jerking sub.
/r/seduction06/05/26 02:44 PM
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Good game. Although, inviting some chick you barely know to travel with you to Spain is pretty insane. Not surprised she shut that one down
/r/seduction06/05/26 02:42 PM
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Like "becomesharp" said, you don't need to tell stories to be attractive. But look at the underlying problem and solve that. Because that makes you less attractive. You said you don't have stories, why? Because you're a loner that doesn't have many social outings... Solve that underlying problem and you will have stories. Seducing women is much easier if you're actually attractive. And being attractive means living an attractive life. And being a loner is inherently unattractive to most women, s…
/r/seduction06/05/26 02:23 PM
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Withholding that info is probably the most socially accepted thing to do. I typically wait until she's in my bedroom before I have a talk about that.
/r/seduction06/05/26 06:58 AM
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Yeah, that makes sense. Early honesty can be a turn-off for a lot of women, my guess is that it's because it can often make a guy appear desperate for fast results.
/r/seduction06/05/26 06:55 AM
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Or, and sorry because this is slightly a rude proposal, but maybe you're just not that attractive below the surface level? What that could look like: If you interact with them for a short time you still appear attractive. If you interact with them longer they get to know you deeper, and find your flaws which turns them off. I could be wrong, of course. Just throwing it out there. Do you often notice that women's attraction for you is strong initially, but fades over time? Or do you typically not…
/r/seduction06/05/26 06:46 AM
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This isn't oneitis. One-itis means you're stuck on a woman thinking she's better than all other women and "special for you".. But like over several months brother. Not like 1 day or even 10 - that doesn't count. That's not that kind of obsession if it's just been a few days.
/r/seduction05/05/26 07:11 PM
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Jupp, it's important to be congruent. Act in the way that makes logical sense from start to finish. Either be boyfriend-material or be a fuck-boy. Don't try to be both on the same date. Be consistent.
/r/seduction05/05/26 06:50 PM
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Find a good excuse. Is there an event like Chinese new year or something? show up! Good excuses can be difficult to come up with, but what can help is look at what they're doing or what they seem interested in and use any information about them to get an entry. Let's say you see one of them reading a magazine of some sort. Quickly google the name of the magazine on your phone, get some basic info about it. Then walk over and pretend you love that magazine and ask how long she's been reading it. …
/r/seduction05/05/26 04:48 PM
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yeah, long instant-dates lead to a lot less flaking afterwards in my experience. The less time you spend with her before the number, the more flaking you're gonna get. I have sometimes gone on instant-dates lasting anywhere from 20 minutes to over 3 hours. These women never flaked. We always met up another day
/r/seduction05/05/26 04:43 PM
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Closing is going for a clear outcome. Usually contact info, a kiss, or sex. If you asked for a kiss - you did a "close". When I say "always be closing". That means always go for a clear outcome you desire: Contact info, kiss or sex (typically).. If you did not try to get either, you did not close and you essentially failed at this task.
/r/seduction05/05/26 04:31 PM
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Closing is going for a clear outcome. Usually contact info, a date, a kiss, or sex. If you asked for a kiss - you did a "close". When I say "always be closing". That means always go for a clear outcome you desire: Contact info, a date, a kiss or sex (typically).. If you did not try to get either, you did not close and you essentially failed at this task.
/r/seduction05/05/26 04:30 PM
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Do you not understand what closing means? It's a well-known term in seduction.
/r/seduction05/05/26 01:37 PM
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Do you not understand what closing means? It's a well-known term in seduction.
/r/seduction05/05/26 01:37 PM
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ABC - Always Be Closing. Not sure where it's from, and it's not something I recommend when you're intermediate / advanced. But when you're a beginner struggling with fear of rejection, not getting enough results, and not daring to escalate etc. then this is a good rule of thumb.
/r/seduction05/05/26 11:57 AM
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You were thinking prior "I don't want this to end in a ONS". On the date: "Never mind, Let's push this to ONS" 😂 You screwed up because you kept pushing despite her signs of unease. Not because she wasn't attracted to you. You can reach out whenever you feel like it, but if you want this to go well, you kinda have to apologize a little and plead with her to give it an honest second attempt. Because right now, she probably doesn't want to go on a second date with you given how you pushed her too …
/r/seduction05/05/26 07:20 AM
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Could be something. She could just be shy. Just drop a note with your number on it next time you swing by. Although if she's completely ignoring you, that's a sign of disinterest. When you have different signs thrown your way, like first she was interested and later she seems to want to avoid you, always place a greater weight on the latest signals. So in this case, the disinterest came last - so that signal is more important.
/r/seduction04/05/26 02:36 PM
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She is working there.. so it's like a café or something and you're typically a client? or what is the situation exactly? I ask because women that work in service being kind and flirtatious usually is just part of their job. It doesn't have to mean legit interest.
/r/seduction04/05/26 02:02 PM
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yes! Most guys experience being seen as potentially creepy by some women. The more they try to date, the more it happens.
/r/seduction04/05/26 01:53 PM
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Buying drinks and food is not the path to seduce women in the West. That makes you seem desperate. Sure, you can pick up the tab on a first date, once it's already implied that she's into you since she agreed to go on a date. But otherwise I would avoid paying for drinks or food. In the US, the dating-culture basically comes down to the man asking women on dates. So just do that. Don't sit and stare, don't offer drinks. Just chitchat for a bit, then ask them out on dates. If you're in a nightclu…
/r/seduction03/05/26 07:31 AM
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Yes! You are correct. To add some nuance: You did not mention the most important thing women consider though: Their safety. Men usually don't think about their safety when dating. But for women: The number one thing they look for is a guy that won't rape or kill them. They value this heavily into their choices on the dating-market. This is a nuance men often overlook. Men just think "that girl is hot I want to fuck her". Women think "that dude seems creepy / scary". Ever heard women saying they …
/r/seduction02/05/26 06:07 PM
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It's kinda similar for women but mostly when they're ovulating. Not the same strength as men though. The reason I say this, is based on the book "T" which is about testosterone. It features insights from transmen (women who wanted to transition to male), and in that process they took male levels of testosterone. They talk about how they couldn't stop looking at women's butts, and staring at beautiful women everywhere. Just like men. And now they finally "understood what it's like to be male" in …
/r/seduction02/05/26 05:56 PM
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I see where you're coming from. And looks absolutely matter. However, I think there are important details also to consider for each of your examples: Dating-apps: You say looks matter on dating apps a lot. I agree with this for one part: Yes, the way you look on your images matters. But not the way you look in real life. So in that sense, no, your real-world looks don't matter on dating apps. All that matters is what you look like on the photos. And you can make those images look like anything y…
/r/seduction02/05/26 04:47 PM
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No. Not exactly the same. If she's neither "here nor there", you can still work on her a bit to see.
/r/seduction02/05/26 06:27 AM
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Just be direct in that scenario. "I got a friend that might be good for you". If she's single she'll probably ask to see his Instagram account. So of course in that situation, it pays off in spades to have a good Insta account looking handsome and cool, like you got shit locked down - good follower count etc. It basically becomes social media game as soon as connection is made.
/r/seduction01/05/26 07:41 PM
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For where I live and travel, it's Whatsapp or Snapchat that are the go-to communication tools people use. So number - kinda. Just to get connected on one of those two apps.
/r/seduction01/05/26 09:31 AM
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Plowing is just sexual harassment imo. Read the room and take the hints. If she's clearly not interested, move on quick.
/r/seduction01/05/26 09:24 AM
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In Dubai UAE, aren't like 90% of the women gold-diggers? That's what I hear anyway, so maybe suit up and put on that Rolex
/r/seduction30/04/26 04:49 PM
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Thanks brother
/r/seduction30/04/26 04:43 PM
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Welcome to dating apps. This is normal. If they turn you down, it could be for various reasons, such as: They're just using the app for fun. Not to actually meet guys. You're not among their favorite matches / low interest They don't feel safe enough / trust you enough They feel like your date proposal is coming too soon (pressuring), or too slowly (insecure or boring) The date proposal itself can feel too risky or boring, or not to their liking They're interested but just busy right now, or goi…
/r/seduction30/04/26 04:42 PM
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I would feel miffed if she suddenly wanted outside fun in the relationship. But I would probably get a bit more comfortable with it over time. Just like I did in my first open relationship. I would also consider leaving if I couldn't handle it. This is how I see things: People don't like things to progress to more openness, usually. They usually prefer going from more open to closer / more commitment / more exclusivity over time. I'm no different. Hence, I staked my claim for openness from the v…
/r/seduction29/04/26 07:22 PM
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Yeah man, I settled down into long-term relationships. One 8 years, and the one I'm in now is about 5 years long. Both open relationships. First open for both parties, second I'm the only one going outside the relationship for fun (and it's quite limited, in that I only do it on vacations when solo traveling). My current partner doesn't want "outside fun" for herself. So it's just me doing it. I think it's so fun, so rewarding, so addictive (as you say) that I could never be 100% monogamous anym…
/r/seduction29/04/26 05:37 PM
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To some degree it's just normal brother. You're thinking "oh no, I feel a bit nervous around hot women - something must be wrong with me?"... and it's like .. no bro. Almost every guy feels that way. Give yourself a break for being a normal human male. The most important thing isn't how you feel. It's what you do. You push yourself, you asked women out, you got some success. That's what matters the most. I think some degree of nerves will almost always be there, and that's what makes succeeding …
/r/seduction29/04/26 05:26 PM
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Are you asking them to meet? Sorry to ask this very dumb question. But I have to ask, because some people are very dumb
/r/seduction29/04/26 02:34 PM
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Rap-lyrics are a terrible source of seduction-advice. Just go approach instead of decoding lyrics. What you're doing is not seduction. You're just listening to music.
/r/seduction29/04/26 02:32 PM
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How can I know if she is interested or not? You never know. You just make an educated guess based on signs of interest. As for the rest of your questions: You have a girlfriend. I'm not help anyone cheat. Stop being an asshole
/r/seduction29/04/26 02:29 PM
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You're in Egypt? So cold approach probably is not feasible in the normal sense that they do in the Western Liberal World. You have to adjust the game to your cultural region. How do men end up dating women in Egypt? You should follow the standard approach most men take that are successful there in getting the types of results you want. Look around you: Know any guys that are having success with women in the way you want? What are they doing to meet these women? Are they doing cold approach? If s…
/r/seduction29/04/26 09:11 AM
1

Ok, so you imagine her reacting poorly to your opener? Is that like a video that plays in your mind?
/r/seduction29/04/26 08:18 AM
0

Tener amigos y todo eso que mencionas no importa si no les tiras la onda a las mujeres. Así de simple. Esas cosas son extras, no requisitos. El requisito es aventarse y dar el paso con ellas.
/r/seduction29/04/26 07:49 AM
1

That is not a thought. That is a feeling. What are your thoughts?
/r/seduction29/04/26 07:47 AM
2

Wanting people to want your validation, means you're wanting their validation. You're validation-seeking. You want to be liked. We all want that. It's human. But when you want it too much it gives off the vibe that you're "uncool". You're needy and insecure. You care too much about other people's opinions and that makes you uncool. The reason some people are "cool" is because they have attributes that are valued within their specific society / niche. Kardashians are a good example. They're value…
/r/seduction28/04/26 07:53 PM
2

You should not use preselection. You should have preselection.
/r/seduction28/04/26 07:25 PM
2

that moment when you're hesitating: What is specifically you're imagining or thinking about the negative consequences of approaching?
/r/seduction28/04/26 04:08 PM
6

You're 26, and you have never been in a relationship. You assume that this means there's something wrong with you. But that doesn't have to be the case. It can simply be a lack of taking action. Just being a normal dude doesn't get you into a relationship. You have to hit on women and make a move repeatedly, face rejections, and take risks. You have to find more ways to hit on women, and then actually hit on women. You should not eliminate ways to meet women (like not trying dating apps) until y…
/r/seduction28/04/26 08:41 AM
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Wayyy too thirsty / desperate / needy Not building enough safety / trust Showing only superficial interest Being too cocky and assumptive Moving too fast
/r/seduction28/04/26 08:24 AM
1

I don't preach being dominant. But I do preach leading. Leading with consent.
/r/seduction27/04/26 07:40 AM
2

I ask her if she wants to do what she just described.. Like: What kind of sex do you like? Her: Bla bla bla.. Me: Cool, wanna try that?
/r/seduction26/04/26 08:26 PM
4

I found my own style for this. I just say "what kind of sex do you like?" Works surprisingly well most times. Not saying I bang every girl I bring home - no-one does. But seems to work about 80-90%. That said, if a girl has a blabbermouth it's usually a bad sign. Blabbermouthing is usually either a defense-mechanism because they're too nervous, and/or a tactic to take socially control of a situation that they aren't happy with.
/r/seduction26/04/26 08:18 PM
6

Yeah, as long as you believe any physical contact with a woman is sexual assault, you're going to have this problem. You need to change that belief. There are many methods in cognitive therapy for how to change beliefs. Look up some exercises on reframing / belief change - and get your pen and paper out to do the exercises. Because right now what believe is factually wrong, and it's also holding you back. You know that you can also use your voice to ask someone for consent before touching them. …
/r/seduction26/04/26 12:27 PM
9

In the club
/r/seduction26/04/26 08:04 AM
1

Yeah, of course I can't read their mind. But it seems like they went through some kind of mental shift where they care less. Maybe they have decided they're going to quit jobs soon, or moving to another country soon. Or maybe they are OK with potentially losing their job. They have began to give "less of a fuck". The reason they do it in public but not privately may be due to insecurity. In public it might be "showing off" for the boys, or trying to dominate the person they're touching or in gen…
/r/seduction25/04/26 07:19 PM
1

Not sure I understand the question. You want to know what their goal is with such behavior? Frequent touching in public while making it seem "innocent" or excusing it away? If that's your question, I think the answer is that they want to fuck the person they're doing it to - and they're trying to escalate things to sex.
/r/seduction25/04/26 07:02 PM
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Give oral for a long time with enthusiasm. Try different things with your tongue and see what she responds best to. You do this, you are already better than most guys. Most guys either don't give oral, or if they do - they typically don't do it for very long or with enthusiasm.
/r/seduction25/04/26 05:29 PM
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When people talk about being needy, they're not talking about normal escalation or closing attempts. They're usually talking about doing too much, usually also too soon. You can see it as 3 levels: You're not doing enough (too passive / avoidant) You're doing enough (well-adjusted / appropriate / secure) You're doing too much (needy / desperate / anxious-preoccupied)
/r/seduction24/04/26 03:09 PM
2

Makes sense. Telling women this is honestly a good excuse for why you can't be serious with them. Since many women will not want to stick around longer for repeated casual encounters - you also need a good lead channel / lead generator that ensures new women are always coming in the front door. You want the flow of casual flings coming into your life to match the flow of them leaving your life. That way, you always have one or more of these FWB flings going.
/r/seduction23/04/26 07:02 PM
2

Good man. I respect that. Sometimes we have to choose between easier results with bad ethics, or fewer results with good ethics. What is stopping you from wanting a serious relationship with someone?
/r/seduction23/04/26 06:43 PM
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Most guys who keep women around for casual sex, do so because they give the women a glimmer of false hope that things MIGHT turn into something more committed and serious if they stick around and play their cards right. But they never put that out there verbally outright. They just kinda begin doing boyfriend stuff, but still at arms length. The woman gets her feelings involved and the guy act more and more interested also, but then it never develops into something more. He never takes the leep …
/r/seduction23/04/26 06:31 PM
1

Brother, I don't use regular social media for dating. I use dating-apps for that. Like a normie does.
/r/seduction23/04/26 06:24 PM
5

Well yeah I post shit on instagram that I like for me. I don't post shit to impress women. This isn't Tinder.
/r/seduction23/04/26 06:19 PM
4

Do you begin behaving like a boyfriend when you're hooking up with them casually? I mean, it's rare to get casual sex consistently for anyone. FWB situationships usually don't last very long. Couple of months max is the typical.
/r/seduction23/04/26 06:18 PM
6

OK, post shit women won't like on purpose.
/r/seduction23/04/26 06:17 PM
12

Yeah, because you seek validation.
/r/seduction23/04/26 06:07 PM
13

Not posting on social media
/r/seduction23/04/26 05:39 PM
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It's usually solved partially by just trying to get them into bed sooner. Before they really like your personality on a deeper level. How long does it typically go before you try to get them into bed? The sooner you try, the more you're communicating through actions that you're a fuckboy, not boyfriend material.
/r/seduction23/04/26 05:34 PM
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You can act the exact same way you do when drunk - while still being sober. You can even feel drunk while being sober. If you focus on remembering what that feels like and nudge your internal state in that direction. It's not going to get you 100% of the way there, but definitely 50% or more. There's an interesting clip from Derren Brown where he does this to a guy: Gets him to vividly imagine what it's like to drink a lot of beers and feel their effects, and the guy begins acting more and more …
/r/seduction23/04/26 05:07 PM
2

Nope.
/r/seduction23/04/26 02:33 PM
2

No, you can't reduce the risk to zero. You could be shot in the head tomorrow by a random guy and there is potentially nothing you can do about it. Bad shit happens to careful / smart people all the time. People that did nothing stupid or wrong. There are plenty of relationships where someone is acting perfectly, and the other person still cheats. A good example of this is Sam and Nia Rader. Where Sam cheated on Nia, despite her being essentially the perfect wife and he had zero complaints about…
/r/seduction23/04/26 02:17 PM
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Signs of trustworthiness : - Acting in accordance with what they say they will do. - Other people trust them / consider them trustworthy. - Consistent behavior. - Honest even when it's difficult to be honest about something. - Have a past history of acting trustworthy and ethical (no past cheating for example) - Take responsibility when they make a mistake - Reassures you if you have worries or feel insecure Signs / red flags someone cannot be trusted / risk factors for cheating: - History of ch…
/r/seduction23/04/26 02:13 PM
2

You need to separate the behaviors so each are blamed for their part of what they did wrong. If you treat your partner badly. You are to blame for treating your partner badly. If your partner turns around and cheats on you, then your partner is to blame for cheating on you. You are not responsible for your partner's bad actions. You are only responsible for your own bad actions. To take the crime example you used: Going into a bad neighborhood with fancy shoes is your fault. Getting robbed is NO…
/r/seduction23/04/26 01:57 PM
3

If multiple people rape you. Who is the common denominator? If multiple people rob you, who is the common denominator? What you're doing is victim-blaming. Someone does something bad to someone else, and then you believe it's the victim's fault. Completely backwards way of thinking. Even more so when you're the victim.
/r/seduction23/04/26 01:22 PM
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If a girl cheats on you, it's your fault? Brother, you're gaslighting yourself into complete delusion. if someone cheats - it's the cheater's fault. end of story.
/r/seduction23/04/26 01:15 PM
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It has made me trust them more overall. But it's not a good idea to trust everyone by default. Whether man or woman. You trust the people that have shown themselves to be trustworthy. While cheating is common (about equal rates of cheating is done by both men and women), once you know what to look for the red flags for cheating are extremely easy to spot. The signs of someone being trustworthy are also easy to spot. Trust is earned. Learn and know the social signs of trustworthiness & the signs …
/r/seduction23/04/26 01:15 PM
0

I'm not a fan of verbal approaches in bars / clubs most of the time - especially if it's loud. I prefer dance-game where you approach by dancing next to someone.
/r/seduction23/04/26 11:56 AM
1

Happy to hear you found a path for success that works for you! Once that is true - it is indeed smart to optimize and focus your attention more on the path that works best for you. So for beginners, try everything (that's my advice) Once you have found one way to meet women that works better for you: focus on that and reduce effort on those that perform worse. To your point. You're doing the right thing. You optimized after you found a successful path. I was a bit different and found more succes…
/r/seduction23/04/26 08:21 AM
1

True, your volume drops drastically the more signals you want to have. But sometimes that can be a good strategy for guys that are sensitive to rejection, or need to protect their reputation in small communities. I think apps and pure cold approach have a similar success rate for the average guy. Mostly failure. So that's why it's a numbers game either way. Do both, and do a lot - is my advice. The more you do, the better (as long as you keep learning). Most guys should not remove options (like …
/r/seduction23/04/26 08:06 AM
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Yeah everything matters, but you can drive yourself crazy by trying to optimize these small nuances instead of approaching. The most important thing is that you approached and you tried to close. Most guys don't approach, or if they approach - they forget to try to close. So only focus on nuances if you're already regularly doing approach + close. Master the basics first. If you already have mastered the basics, you can indeed play around with small optimizations like those you mentioned.
/r/seduction23/04/26 08:02 AM
2

Yes, most guys do the "blind cold approach" and that's why most guys also fail almost all their cold approaches. For normal dates, you can just make every statistic I gave about 25% worse (relative decline - not absolute decline) because you now have to deal with potentially being ghosted / rejected later on and this has a much higher probability. It's much easier / comfortable for women to reject a dude over text than in real life. So they reject comfortably if they have any small doubts that c…
/r/seduction23/04/26 07:38 AM
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My guess is that when most people hear "genuine desire" they assume someone feels strong desire for someone. And they don't really think that it must be because of looks. It could be for any reason. Some people have the hots for people with high intelligence for example. That's just as genuine as someone that prioritizes looks. Both are equally valid forms of genuine desire.
/r/seduction23/04/26 07:19 AM
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Are you talking just getting a number really quick and then asking for a date later? That is a shitty approach that will lead to failure like 95-99% of the time. Best move is to get an instant date right from the approach. Then your odds are much better of securing a second date later on. Three scenarios: Blind cold approach (she doesn't give signals of approachability or approach invitations): 1-5% success rate of getting an instant date High approachability cold approach (she is giving signals…
/r/seduction23/04/26 07:15 AM
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What is your definition of "genuine desire" Why do you think desire is only genuine if it's based on looks? That seems like a bit of a perplexing assumption to me. IF someone desires a person for other reasons - it's "not genuine" anymore?
/r/seduction23/04/26 06:56 AM
0

Don't listen to this OP.
/r/seduction22/04/26 07:44 PM
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dude shut up
/r/seduction22/04/26 07:44 PM
3

You can clarify that you're only looking for casual and ask if she's cool with that or if she felt happy just doing it once. Basically just ask her.
/r/seduction22/04/26 03:51 PM
2

Biologically speaking - child birth is very risky. So women have some surpressed appetite towards sex and mating compared to men. That's why women will less often chase. You have to remember that biologically / evolutionarily speaking - it's about survival and replication. Replication is cool and all - but women only get a few chances of that so they have to value quality over quantity. And since each birth is risky it factors into the "survival" motivation. When men fuck multiple women they mos…
/r/seduction22/04/26 08:22 AM
1

I feel like I just shared 3 in my previous comment?
/r/seduction22/04/26 08:04 AM
1

Typically after you have shared your typical superficial get-to-know you stuff like "what do you do for work, do you have siblings, where are you from?" etc. Based on her answers you can piggy-back of her response on any of those topics to GO DEEPER.
/r/seduction21/04/26 04:37 PM
1

Go somewhere with a lot of single women. Honestly, what kind of question is this? I'm sure you're not that dense that you struggle to find women. There are like 4 billion women. They're not hard to find. Go outside from time to time
/r/seduction21/04/26 04:33 PM
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I'm 37. You're in your 40s!!!?? So old bro, grandpa basically.
/r/seduction21/04/26 04:30 PM
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Hmm, interesting that you say that. It never crossed my mind at the time that it was a slight from his end too. But you're absolutely correct. It was a dick move from his end.
/r/seduction21/04/26 04:28 PM
1

Deeper questions are never boring. It's the superficial questions that are boring.
/r/seduction21/04/26 04:26 PM
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I agree it's not necessary to go that deep and it can 100% backfire. But you need to get too far at some point to know where that point of "too far" is. OP has probably never gotten that deep. Probably just scratching the surface.
/r/seduction21/04/26 04:25 PM
2

Jupp, key is almost always escalating quicker tbh
/r/seduction21/04/26 02:47 PM
8

100% I swear so many dudes have issues because they don't see women as humans. They see them as aliens or some shit.
/r/seduction21/04/26 01:52 PM
1

You don't have to tell me
/r/seduction21/04/26 01:51 PM
25

Went over to my crush' house with my best male buddy at the time. We were all friends. About 30 minutes in, she says "Why are you still here? I don't want you here". I left the place while my best friend stayed with her to cuddle.
/r/seduction21/04/26 12:40 PM
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View the woman as a deep, complex personality - and see it as your job to gradually get to the deepest bottom of her truth / worldview. Which is so deep you'll never get there. You'll always be at X level, and your next topic / question when you run out of things to say is to move things towards deeper understanding. You don't know what to say? you're simply not curious enough about her. You only care about her superficial qualities (and once you got to know her superficially it is already enoug…
/r/seduction21/04/26 12:16 PM
2

The ones that I form long-term relationships with
/r/seduction21/04/26 11:55 AM
3

There's no universal "standard". People all have their own preferences and do all kinds of different things.
/r/seduction21/04/26 06:51 AM
5

I don't know your university, but most universities are FILLED to the brim with social events for students either at campus or nearby. The people that want to socialize go to social events.
/r/seduction21/04/26 06:47 AM
3

Usually asking a few questions that are relevant to your situation - and that brings the interaction forwards. For example, let's say you do your opener and it's day-game. Next step? Instant Date of course! So, you ask about that. Like "want to grab a coffee nearby while I wait for my friend"? So much stupid conversation comes from not having a plan and yapping about nonsense. You should have the end in mind before you even open. Night game? The end-point of the opener might be asking her to dan…
/r/seduction20/04/26 07:05 PM
4

It's deeply individual. For me - it's not been an issue at all. I have been able to connect deeply and have profound long-term relationships multiple times. And I also enjoy casual sex from time to time. Hence I'm always in an open relationship. Best of both worlds baby
/r/seduction20/04/26 11:31 AM
2

Has anyone told you that you smile too much? Or is this an insecurity that came from within yourself?
/r/seduction20/04/26 11:28 AM
4

What have you tried so far, and where do you fail?
/r/seduction20/04/26 11:27 AM
1

It's really smart to completely separate the women you hit on from the women you are considering being friends with. Don't mix the two. If you fancy someone (you find them attractive) - then I advise you to risk losing the friendship with them by asking them out. You always risk friendship when you make a move. If the person you hit on is connected with another friend, then you may ask that common friend if your "target" is single and open to dating. That way you kind of "check in" with your fri…
/r/seduction20/04/26 11:05 AM
1

No, you should hide them. Put that thing away bro. Wear a long t-shirt or something. It's not appropriate to just show people your boner in public.
/r/seduction19/04/26 06:23 PM
2

You are already successful. You just wished you were even more successful. This is a game you'll never win. Every time you get more successful, you would wish you could get even more successful. It never stops. It's never "enough" and you're never "done learning" or "complete". You are on the path of learning. The path of progress. Have some fun with that instead of worrying about where you're not or comparing yourself to some fantasy-CHAD or other guys that aren't you. Doing this comparison-gam…
/r/seduction19/04/26 05:42 PM
5

So you have multiple insecurities and limiting beliefs you need to get over: Like thinking your height is holding you back when it's not. Thinking you're not "good enough" for a hot woman unless you get immediate IOIs. That's a complete bullshit belief right there. You can get with hot women without this. Most guys dating hot women aren't getting "immediate IOIs" from them. Don't feel like you're "charismatic" (whatever that means - probably nonsense) Don't feel like you're good socially (what s…
/r/seduction19/04/26 05:25 PM
2

Why don't you feel attractive to the super hot girls?
/r/seduction19/04/26 05:05 PM
1

Most meet on dating-apps. But seems like you haven't cracked the code. You don't have to be top 10% in real life. You just have to be top 30% or so ON THE APPS (which is not real life). So your pics & profile need an upgrade for sure. Otherwise men meet women in all the places you mentioned. If your city is lacking women - it's probably time to make some longer-term plans to move somewhere else if you want more opportunities and have the ability.
/r/seduction19/04/26 03:19 PM
1

No. You should risk rejection. Initiate flirting first and then see the response. You have to be okay with potentially making her uncomfortable.
/r/seduction18/04/26 10:28 AM
1

If you have broken up there's no specific time-range. Whenever you feel ready
/r/seduction18/04/26 06:48 AM
1

I will do the same. And I would not want to be friends.
/r/seduction18/04/26 06:46 AM
2

Well I think you can't prioritize that when you're part of some niche religion with almost no people in it. It's like you gotta lock someone down when you can.
/r/seduction17/04/26 01:23 PM
1

Yeah yeah, I'm not talking about that. I'm talking about you. If you're able to / willing to move IF she's interested. Because otherwise you risk that she's interested, but because of the logistics she will count you out right away or quite soon.
/r/seduction17/04/26 01:15 PM
2

You need to decide if you're willing to move there ASAP. Or don't talk to her at all. Pick one. Anything in between is CRAP. A waste of time mate.
/r/seduction17/04/26 01:05 PM
4

The jobs that put you in contact with hot women, are the same jobs where it's NOT OK to hit on those women. So it's a losing strategy. Maybe before #MeToo times were different. But nowadays you cannot do that anymore. It's career suicide.
/r/seduction17/04/26 12:30 PM
1

Dating apps are working for me, and I rarely cold approach anymore. Just if I see approach signals or someone displaying high approachability.
/r/seduction17/04/26 12:22 PM
1

I see your point, but my counter-argument is that most men are not wildly charismatic. And many of them they still experience plenty of success with women. The most important thing is to make a move. Ask women out, escalate, risk rejection. Being the center of attention is cool, but by itself it doesn't move the needle forwards. It's kinda like being handsome. That's cool and all, but if you don't act on it when a woman shows a slight bit of interest, then your good looks don't move the needle. …
/r/seduction17/04/26 08:48 AM
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It's not the best date idea. Better to ask her on a proper date. Inviting her to see your show is kinda low-effort. She will probably think you're inviting a bunch of women, not just her. If you are in fact, inviting a bunch of tinder girls to see your show - then it would be a good idea. Low effort but plenty of upside. Multiple women might show up and you can pick and choose your favorite and pretend the other women there are just friends or acquaintances. But if you're only talking to one wom…
/r/seduction16/04/26 06:39 PM
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It's because the type of date you describe is average. It's meh. OK. Normal. Nothing special. Contrast this with a date where you fucked her brains out for over 2 hours. Women have those types of dates too. So why would she choose a guy that just provides "good conversation"? It's boring. Most guys can provide that, so it doesn't exactly make you stand out in any meaningful way.
/r/seduction16/04/26 04:54 PM
5

What is the end goal? Getting into a relationship with a woman that has been proven to be unfaithful?
/r/seduction16/04/26 04:47 PM
1

That might indeed be a better explanation - that it's low level envy that another guy is getting sex when you aren't. It's then basically just a "blow out" / releasing some steam of sexual frustration in that moment. Sexual frustration is a very common reason why men sometimes get a bit too "assholy". Try jerking off and see if that calms things down. Get those post-cum prolactin hormones going!
/r/seduction16/04/26 02:58 PM
6

This is my guess, and I could be wrong: It seems to me like an extension of being a "nice guy". Like when you act out because you feel another man is taking advantage of a woman, and then you call that woman a loser for being taken "advantage of". It hints at this underlying belief you probably have where you think that you're nice to women and therefore deserve sex, and you're mad you're not getting the sex and instead women always sleep with other men ie. "bad guys" that take advantage of them…
/r/seduction16/04/26 02:35 PM
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Changes like this have to come from within. It's not "say this or that". It's an inner-game issue. These charismatic people have an inner world that is different from yours. Most likely, they have an intense desire to be the center of attention in a group of people. Their desire to be the center of attention and impress those around them is likely multiple times higher than yours. This isn't necessarily a good thing for them. Because people like this often tie their self-worth to getting attenti…
/r/seduction16/04/26 12:02 PM
1

If you're encountering a lot of this, it may be that you're trying for a lot of women that are too young to like you without money. It's basically a side-effect of being older and aiming too young. What do they get in return for dating a much older dude? They usually want some form of compensation so it feels like fair trade-off to date older. Of course some women prefer older naturally (without compensation) but it's more unusual, so you're looking for a minority. Most of them want to be financ…
/r/seduction16/04/26 08:38 AM
1

I need a clear logical reason to practice something. I'm not going to practice something just because it's "occult" (you could insert any word here - not just occult. It could be any religion, or belief system, or chakrah healing or reading people's auras or whatever). Why should I be interested in the occult or practice it? I don't see any reason to.
/r/seduction15/04/26 06:31 PM
1

No, I am basically against that stuff, as I find most of it to be nonsense
/r/seduction15/04/26 06:25 PM
2

Occult practices: Occult practices involve studying and utilizing "hidden" or "secret" knowledge (from Latin occultus)—ranging from esoteric traditions to magic—that falls outside mainstream science or religion If you have another definition of the occult, or occult practices - that's OK, but then you have to start out by explaining that in your post. Because everyone else will assume that you mean the same as most people when they speak about "the occult" - the generally used dictionary definit…
/r/seduction15/04/26 06:20 PM
1

Occult: noun mystical, supernatural, or magical powers, practices, or phenomena. So no, it's not part of established science. It's basically the opposite - it's the things science cannot explain.
/r/seduction15/04/26 06:10 PM
3

So nobody knows this ahead of time - whether she is ready for something more. Unless she has explicitly told you without being asked. Everyone else is kinda making an educated guess based on your interaction up until this point. They guess. And their guess could be wrong. But you have to ask. And risk that she might say "no". That is risking rejection. Everyone has to do that. You risk rejection when you ask for her contact info, when you invite her on a date, when you invite her home, when you …
/r/seduction15/04/26 06:07 PM
4

That's really great for clarifying you already know small-talk, and I apologize for my overly negative assumption. Usually when you live with parents you still have your private room, and you can take the girl to your private room (that's typically what people do). Or they wait until the parents are away for something - like a work party, and then they sneakily invite the girl over when they're not there. Some also resort to more creative solutions like renting an Airbnb, going behind some bushe…
/r/seduction15/04/26 05:51 PM
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Ok, here are the basic steps you could follow: Small talk Invite them on a date. Invite them to your place. Invite them to your bedroom. Ask them what kind of sex they like. Ask them if they would like to do that. Have sex. In between all of those steps (or included in all steps) there is a lot of talking. You need to learn how to talk to people in general. How to get to know someone. Learning to talk to people is a skill you get better at by practicing to talk to people. So you need to get outs…
/r/seduction15/04/26 05:11 PM
6

OK, so if car meets are a big thing there and your friends have success with that. What is stopping you from going to those same car meets? You need to go where the women are, or if you don't want to do that then your only other option is online (dating apps or DMs on social media).
/r/seduction15/04/26 04:18 PM
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By being honest up front about your intentions. Such as telling them you aren't looking for serious dating at the moment - just casual fun. If they decide to sleep with you, they know it's not going to be a relationship. Some might still get hurt though. But then it's not your fault. It's their own fault for getting false ideas. So you're morally in the clear. How to get laid and an FWB? Start with getting laid. This entire forum is dedicated to helping people get laid. So it's not as simple as …
/r/seduction15/04/26 03:45 PM
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Themselves is usually their favorite topic of conversation.
/r/seduction15/04/26 12:18 PM
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Attraction changes every second - up and down within a range. That range is usually established early on. Within seconds someone will typically put you, let's say, between a 6 and an 9. You can only realistically move within that range. And then every second of every day, it's moving. Between 6 and 9 somewhere. That depends on their mood, what they ate, how well they slept, what you're wearing, who you're standing next to, where they are in their monthly cycle, how you smell, how you interacted …
/r/seduction15/04/26 12:07 PM
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Ok Clanker.
/r/seduction15/04/26 11:37 AM
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Depends. Being too available or too unavailable are both bad. Adapt to the style of the other person or just find someone that naturally matches your style.
/r/seduction15/04/26 11:22 AM
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Differing perceptions and framing is not part of the occult. It's established science. There's a whole subset of psychology just focusing on human biases. Among which; How to make people have biased takes through manipulation. Reality is reality, our perception is just our perception of reality (which can easily be wrong / influenced in different ways). Nothing magical or occult going on. Humans are just superstitious and fallable by nature. And a good manipulator can use this to their advantage…
/r/seduction15/04/26 08:07 AM
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Plenty of ugly guys get play
/r/seduction14/04/26 03:44 PM
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Alcoholic drinks is a bad move, because one too many alcoholic drinks and now one of you is intoxicated - and that usually leads to bad sex and a higher chance of post-sex regret. That could really ruin the friendship completely. So if you get drinks, try to sway things in the "alcohol free" drinks direction. This is the safer bet if sex is in the cards. I think you need to read up on "physical escalation" in this subreddit. There are tons of posts that cover this part. How to go for the kiss, h…
/r/seduction14/04/26 03:18 PM
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Well then you don't have to worry much about your hair situation and can pay more attention to other parts like clothes, accessories, body, and skincare
/r/seduction14/04/26 02:25 PM
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Part is knowing what you want. I assume you want casual fun only (not a long-term relationship) based on what you write. This is a great starting point. If you try to trick people to sleep with you when they aren't into the casual sex thing - it will typically make you feel empty inside. If you meet a woman that is down with casual sex, and wants the same thing - it will typically be a lot more rewarding. That said: You need to also understand why you want casual sex. If you're feeling depressed…
/r/seduction14/04/26 07:33 AM
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Yeah, I have a trick that works all the time, every time. It's 100% guaranteed to work. Drink less alcohol the day before you want to avoid a hangover.
/r/seduction14/04/26 07:23 AM
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Read other posts on this forum that covers this in detal
/r/seduction14/04/26 07:11 AM
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😂 haha same! My teacher at school told me that the way she remembered the difference between me and my brother was that I was the one with the big nose. So rude but heck, looking back I can just laugh at it
/r/seduction13/04/26 07:06 PM
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You said it perfectly. There's a lid for every pot. Some are attracted to weird facial traits like huge noses for example (one girl told me this). It's funny how we're wired.
/r/seduction13/04/26 06:57 PM
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A "5" is only a 5 on average. That's what we mean we call someone a 5. But this focus on that is over-hyping the value of your average score. Ask 100 women to rate a 5, you'll get a wide range of responses. Some women will find him a 10. Looks is objective in the average, but subjective to the individual. This means that it is absolutely possible for guys with worse looks to get in the door and have success. They just need to shoot their shot more times to get the same success as a better lookin…
/r/seduction13/04/26 06:50 PM
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Depends how old is old. But let's make it simple: Most cities have a variety of bars. Some bars are catering to a young crowd, some a middle aged crowd, and some an older crowd. If you go venue-window-shopping to various bars in your city, you will most likely come across one bar that has women in the age range you seek. Once you've found it, go there often. You should NOT do anything different when hitting on an older woman. Treat her exactly the same.
/r/seduction13/04/26 06:37 PM
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The easiest way to get with older women is to hit on a lot of older women. Step 1: Find older women. Step 2: Hit on them. Don't overcomplicate it.
/r/seduction13/04/26 06:06 PM
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I think the psychological build-up is the key, not the touching itself. So think about how you can make the date as great as possible before you initiate touch.
/r/seduction13/04/26 05:55 PM
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Are you drinking a lot of energy drinks? How is your sleep? It might be your hormones - your lifestyle, your sleep, and what you consume very much affects hormonal swings. Try to keep things stable / steady. Live healthy. Sometimes there's also specific foods that make you break-out. If so, trying an elimination diet could help. Typical problem foods are chocolate, milk, energy drinks, high sugar diet, and sunflower seeds.
/r/seduction13/04/26 04:45 PM
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Hair plays a big role and can be changed quickly also for men. You got a beard? Go to a beard groomer. Looking well-groomed is a big deal. This can happen overnight. From scruffy grown out hair and beard, to neatly trimmed and well-cut. You may want to schedule monthly trips to the barber so you don't accidentally let things get out of control. Put it in the calendar as a repeating event. For shorter guys, also don't neglect putting on some shoes that gives you a bit of extra height. Like some s…
/r/seduction13/04/26 01:27 PM
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The same as everyone else can do to improve their chances. Being Indian in Australia doesn't mean your approach to improving is different from anyone else. Get out there, approach women, seduce women. Try and fail. Learn the game / theory of seduction and keep on improving. This whole forum is full of advice.
/r/seduction13/04/26 01:15 PM
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The face of someone having just had awesome sex, and the face of someone who's just run a marathon is more or less the same face imo. You don't have to like the emoji. You can use the other ones you suggested as well. But societally / culturally speaking, most people associate 🥵 this emoji with feeling horny. Not marathons. You can see this emoji all over instagram on sexy posts for example. So people generally know what it means
/r/seduction13/04/26 08:39 AM
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Do you prefer sexting over having sex? Pick one primary goal. If your primary goal is having sex, then wait until you have had sex before you sext. If your primary goal is sexting, then go ahead and sext. Start innocent with double-entendres and see if she responds well to that before taking it further.
/r/seduction13/04/26 08:37 AM
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You should typically just sext with women that you have already had sex with. If you sext women you haven't had sex with, it will usually reduce the chances of you two having sex because you have raised the stakes and this means meeting you now is a lot scarier from a woman's perspective. Women always want to feel like they can say "no" to sex at any time. But by sexting, it's like she has already committed to sex prior to your date - and that will usually lead to her canceling the date because …
/r/seduction13/04/26 08:03 AM
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This is what I was talking about in my comment that if you ask in a pressuring way - she will increase her defenses. Asking "what's wrong", which is you what you mentioned in your example - is a pressuring way to ask. I do not recommend using such language to inquire. You need to ask in a caring way. Not a pressuring or annoyed manner. Implying that it's wrong for her to say "no" to sex is inherently pressuring. You need to watch your words. You should never use the word "wrong" in that setting.
/r/seduction13/04/26 07:50 AM
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LMR is rarely just about anti-slut defense. It's often one or more fears: fear of STDs fear of being dumped after sex (feeling used or played) fear of being bad at sex / or being judged for how she looks naked fear of getting pregnant fear the sex is going to hurt or feel unpleasant (because the guy is too selfish or brutal in bed) And sure, fear of seeming like a slut is also one of the fears (anti-slut defense) How do you know which fear is being triggered? You ask her. When you sense her hesi…
/r/seduction12/04/26 06:22 PM
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You see them going from friends to lovers from your outside perspective. But that's what I'm saying: For them it's usually not that way. But I could be wrong, and you can find out by asking them this: Did they have a flirty tone or a romantic eye for each other early on when getting to know each other before becoming deeper friends? My guess is that most of them will say "yes". And some will say "no". The ones saying "no" being the exception / minority. Usually there is mutual physical attractio…
/r/seduction12/04/26 05:47 PM
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People usually go from "lovers to friends" not from "friends to lovers". When you meet a new person, there's this early stage of trying to figure out what you both are to each other. Is this a flirty / potential date? Or is it a friend? Most women will put you in a box. If you get put in the friend-box, then it's very difficult to change her mind with flirting later on. That's why you need to begin showing your romantic / sexual interest and flirting BEFORE you become friends. So that you're qui…
/r/seduction12/04/26 01:22 PM
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OK, to be fair to yourself - don't you just think this is a natural part of life? If you were a pro athlete and you took 3 weeks off, you're probably going to feel rusty the first few training sessions. This doesn't mean you're not a pro athlete. It's just the natural way things work. Not everything in life has a solution. Some things just need to be accepted as a fact of life.
/r/seduction12/04/26 12:54 PM
1

what is the "some reason" you don't go out and continue"?
/r/seduction12/04/26 12:18 PM
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Totally get this disconnect. Your intentions are in the right place though, you seem to want to be honest with them and not hurt their feelings. But I'm going to be real here: If they felt betrayed: You were probably not being clear enough. When you say you're "open to seeing how things go". That is not that clear. It's pretty vague, and it opens the door for them to imagine a future with you. I think you could be clearer and say something like "I am not interested in a relationship for the time…
/r/seduction11/04/26 06:21 PM
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Wait until she comes over - then check the vibe before you decide.
/r/seduction11/04/26 12:29 PM
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Cheating is different from dual-mating strategy. If it was the same thing - we would just call it cheating. The dual mating strategy says women are trying to get "better genetics for their baby" by cheating with a genetically superior man. While having a genetically inferior man raise the baby. So unless she was trying to have your baby - she was not pursuing the dual mating strategy. She was just cheating. Now - of course some women DO pursue the dual mating strategy. But it's extremely uncommo…
/r/seduction11/04/26 12:00 PM
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Ok, I see. Why don't you ask them after sex - if they enjoy some cuddling /romantic vibes for a casual situation. Or not? And then you can explain to them that you enjoy cuddling and being romantic after sex despite it being casual. But that you'll leave it up to her if she wants to do that or not.
/r/seduction11/04/26 06:51 AM
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Go to bars
/r/seduction11/04/26 06:49 AM
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It's usually the obvious choice that you have an excuse for why you're not doing. So, you actually mentioned it: "Could go to bars". But then you have your excuse: "Because the rest of my single friends don't drink anymore." Your goal: Recognize excuses and begin to remove them by reframing how you think. That your friends don't drink is not a valid excuse. I hope you see why? Because first off, you don't need to drink alcohol in a bar (you could drink something non-alcoholic). Second, your frie…
/r/seduction10/04/26 07:17 PM
1

So when they think you want something serious - they no longer want to fuck you or what? Or is the issue not with them, but with you feeling bad for acting different after sex?
/r/seduction10/04/26 06:59 PM
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I think I need more details to parse this one. What is the primary reason that it doesn't turn into a recurrent thing? They don't want to see you anymore after sex? Or they set an ultimatum with you that they only want a relationhip or nothing?
/r/seduction10/04/26 06:21 PM
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That's bullshit. Experience counts for nothing in this instance. Most men are the actual fathers to their babies. In like 97% or more of cases. So women generally aren't trying to sneakily find another guy with better genetics to father her babies. Measuring shit with counting is way better than "I feel due to experience that bla bla bla". This goes with the hierarchy of evidence. Controlled studies are better than personal anecdotes. Because human bias and superstition is extremely high in pers…
/r/seduction10/04/26 01:47 PM
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It has been debunked by replication studies that failed. Basically, the idea comes from early studies showing that women in the fertile part of their cycle prefered more "masculine" men. But these early studies just asked women when they had their periods (which is not an accurate way to measure when they are most fertile). They also had few participants in the study - which is more likely to yield false results. Plus the results were sensational (PR worthy) which gave them a lot of traction in …
/r/seduction10/04/26 01:38 PM
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Sniffany... ahhah bro I'm dying
/r/seduction09/04/26 06:56 PM
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Oh, that's another problem then. From night-game, do not go for the contact info. Go for the make-out or go for sex. You got a make-out. You won. Forget staying in touch (that's probably not gonna happen from a Rave) unless you have sex with her.
/r/seduction09/04/26 06:43 PM
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Making out publicly will usually lead to that being the last time you go on a date with them. Leave them wanting more, or go all the way to sex. Pick one. Avoid the middle ground (like just making out)!
/r/seduction09/04/26 06:40 PM
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My best advice is to have an opener that has the close built-in. ABC - Always Be Closing. Example: You: "Do you know a good place to get coffee around here?" (opener) Your target: "There's Starbucks around the corner" (of course you already knew that) You: "Awesome, I'm about to meet a friend later (false time constraint), but want to join me for a coffee in the meantime?" (close)
/r/seduction09/04/26 05:32 PM
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That is indeed another discussion.
/r/seduction09/04/26 04:33 PM
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Are you talking from your own experience trying material in real life - or are you talking about some guy you saw on Youtube trying something? I have lived in both Norway, the Netherlands, and the US. And while there are differences in dating culture - they are very small. I learned a TON of good dating-advice from people from the US that translates very well to Europe. There's this idea that "oh cold approach doesn't work in Northern Europe" for example, because it's frowned upon to talk to str…
/r/seduction09/04/26 04:18 PM
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Step 1: Google "indicators of romantic interest" Step 2: Do some of those indicators to a woman you like. That's flirting. It's that simple.
/r/seduction08/04/26 05:57 PM
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It is not real preselection, but it conveys preselection to the receiver. It's required that the receiver does not not know where you got the knowledge from. Because most will make the mistake in assuming you got that knowledge from experience (unless you directly tell them you got it from books).
/r/seduction08/04/26 05:42 PM
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They will usually assume your feelings got hurt whether you show that or not. Because that is what typically happens to someone that got rejected (they feel hurt). And if you don't show any signs of being hurt, they might think that you're hurt but trying to hide it. They are of course aware that rejecting you involves losing something with you. But they didn't have a choice. They were forced to make a decision they probably did not want to make. They probably wished you could continue as friend…
/r/seduction07/04/26 07:00 PM
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They usually lost something after they rejected you. Perhaps you were friends, and now you're not. Perhaps you were bantering and chatting all day, and now you're not. Some also feel guilty for rejecting you. As if they were evil for saying no, and they feel bad about hurting your feelings. Because they have empathy and feel for you that you have to deal with that painful rejection. Some also regret turning a guy down. They were perhaps afraid to go further, but had some real interest as well. M…
/r/seduction07/04/26 06:49 PM
1

What goes on inside your head at that time? What are you telling yourself?
/r/seduction07/04/26 05:50 PM
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You want to be friends? Then tell her that. Just communicate
/r/seduction07/04/26 11:43 AM
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Well usually not from "miles away". But behavior (in a defined situation) can tell a lot about someone's internal state. For example: Insecurity: Avoiding eye contact, frequent apologizing, struggling to find the right words, talking quitly, being easily startled, having closed body language (protecting vulnerable parts of the body, like front of torso, with your arms and shoulders rolled forwards), uneasy shifting of weight between legs, looking around a lot (scanning for threats). Desperation:…
/r/seduction07/04/26 11:10 AM
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Health habits are for your own health. Not to impress some girl.
/r/seduction06/04/26 08:09 PM
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Seems like most of your issues are due to negative thinking patterns / limiting beliefs. These can be addressed by cognitive reframing. Look up cognitive therapy exercises. The fact that you get nervous and feel bad as soon as women are close - point to the fact that you have some terrible thoughts going through your head at that time.
/r/seduction06/04/26 07:12 PM
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When you lick someone's pussy, the point is not that you should like it. The point is that she should like it. You sacrifice some of your comfort for her pleasure. Like a good lover does. If you want to be good at sex - you have to get around this. Women will rarely think a man is great at sex if he doesn't lick puss with enthusiasm. But if you lick puss with enthusiam, you're already a top 20% dude at sex by default.
/r/seduction06/04/26 06:38 PM
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She didn't like it?
/r/seduction06/04/26 06:21 PM
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I think the best way to fix an insecure attachment is to find and date a secure person. And if the person you're trying to date is not displaying secure signals - dump them and keep looking.
/r/seduction06/04/26 05:58 PM
1

Did you go down on her? This is the easiest way to please a woman with limited experience
/r/seduction06/04/26 05:37 PM
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Unattractive behavior you could adopt: - Dressing poorly - Letting your hair be a mess - Fart / burp - Talk about unattractive things you're doing, like how much you're gaming lately, or how much you've been smoking or drinking or being lazy and demotivated - Talking about how poor you are - Talk about how you're struggling in your career - Complain about your mother - Talk only about yourself and show less interest in her - Act overly needy and desperate (tripple text her, complain when she's n…
/r/seduction06/04/26 05:15 PM
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The most accurate is also the most obvious. So obvious you would probably not categorize it as a sign. For example, if she gives you a blow job - she probably likes you. But you never know, she could just be Canadian.
/r/seduction06/04/26 12:09 PM
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It's possible!
/r/seduction06/04/26 06:41 AM
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Let's address a few things: You tried dating apps and had zero success on them. This tells me that you're unlikely to have success in real life until you understand why you're not having success - and fix it. Let's take an example: Let's say you're fat, have a bad hairstyle, and dress like a 13 year old. When you smile - your teeth point in 20 different directions and they're yellow. You probably won't have much success looking like this. You gotta fix your appearance / style first. See my point…
/r/seduction05/04/26 06:01 PM
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Sometimes we don't like doing something because we are perhaps nervous afraid of failing have had some bad experiences in the past feel ashamed just don't know what you're doing And it's safer to to just avoid the whole thing, so you don't have to face all that emotional turmoil and failure. That's staying inside your comfort zone. It's perfectly find to choose that, but it's a path to stagnation in life. You never grow as a person, you never get better if you just stay inside your comfort zone.…
/r/seduction05/04/26 05:01 PM
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Talking to her more is basically the same as breaking a restraining order. It would be unethical to do so. Blocking is a final boundary where she's communicating that she doesn't want to talk to you. You are ignoring her wants (wanting no-contact with you), to prioritize your own selfish desires to stay in touch. Leave her alone, like she wants. Talking to her now - as long as you're blocked - is harassment.
/r/seduction05/04/26 02:10 PM
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You talked for about 5 minutes - cool, you need to isolate target. Get them away from the group. It also seems you're approaching women randomly. While that's 1000 times better than not approaching, women can sense the desperate vibe if you go around the club hitting on every woman. It's usually a bit smarter to choose the woman to approach a bit more tactically. Look for approachability and approach-invitations. Don't just chat chat chat - move them. Get them alone, and move them to a new venue…
/r/seduction05/04/26 01:21 PM
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It's wrong to assume there is no feedback. There is always feedback. Rejection means it didn't work. The most crucial piece of feedback. The timing of when they lose interest / rejected you is another crucial piece of feedback, because it provides you with a hint as to why they rejected you. Later stage rejection means something very different than rejection in the first 2 seconds. As an example, if you got blown off within the first 2 seconds it's likely one of these: Poor target selection Your…
/r/seduction03/04/26 10:41 AM
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Confidence means you can approach women the wrong way and be okay with rejection. You don't obsess over approaching in the "right way". Instead, you just approach. To learn to approach well, you need to approach more, and get rejected more. Fail more, and you'll learn more. So go out there, approach, and get rejected! Then learn. You don't learn how to be an expert before your first approach. You become an expert after your 1000th failure.
/r/seduction03/04/26 08:13 AM
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She doesn't have to understand her emotions in the heat of the moment. But you should make an effort to understand when things are calmed down a bit. Because understanding them allows you to prevent the bad feelings from being triggered again. You need to understand her triggers. Once you understand them - you can tell it back to her, and ask if it's correct. I'm not sure if this is what you're saying because the post is written a bit weird, but it's not a great idea to "divert" the topic if she…
/r/seduction03/04/26 08:08 AM
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Have you read about attachment theory? Some people respond extremely strongly to this "back and forth" push-and-pull interest from another person. They call people who respond strongly to this "anxiously attached". For a person with an anxious attachment style: That back-and-forth triggers their fear of losing a connection / bond with another person. And that in turns gets their "alarm system" / fear response going. Fear of losing them. And then they invest more into the relationship to "win the…
/r/seduction03/04/26 07:21 AM
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Sounds like you have like almost a fetish for those young girls and give them qualities they don't really have. Such as "peak pussy tightness". There's no difference in "pussy tightness" with age in my experience (and I don't think there's scientific basis for such a claim - although vaginas do get dryer and less flexible with age - but that is usually not noticeable until menopause). Also, attractiveness is often more due to genetics and lifestyle than age. Although age plays a role - it's not …
/r/seduction03/04/26 07:13 AM
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I think you're misunderstanding it or using the concept of "pulling back" wrong. Pulling back for attraction is not a thing (at least in my opinion) But obviously, if you act very needy and desperate then that's a turn-off. But actively "pulling back" is not the way to handle this. You need to fix your inherent neediness and desperate mindset (which it doesn't seem like you have in the first place, so there's probably nothing to fix here). You pull back during physical escalation. So you don't o…
/r/seduction02/04/26 06:11 PM
1

100%!!!
/r/seduction02/04/26 05:38 PM
1

This is indeed a good baseline for dudes who are clueless and just want the most simple thing and not overthink it
/r/seduction02/04/26 05:38 PM
1

Auch... This is very common that people wear the clothes they wore at their former "peak". Famous examples imo is Jeremy Clarkson and James May - still dressing like it's the 1970s. That was probably their hayday / peak.
/r/seduction02/04/26 05:35 PM
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Just because something is hype doesn't mean that it's sexy. Crocs were all the hype too. I know they tried hard to make New Balance "dad shoe" cool again. But imo, it's still not hot. It's a bit like they're trying to make gold from a turd. Now, there are obviously better and worse ways to style it - and some of their models do look cool.
/r/seduction02/04/26 05:32 PM
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100% agreed. You can wear anything, but when celebrities wear something "unstylish" - it's usually with intention. They thought about it, and they're wearing it as a protest or a "I don't give AF attitude" display. Lots of guys that wear bad pieces aren't doing it intentionally. They just throw on whatever is in the closet. Usually a style that is 10 years younger than what they are now
/r/seduction02/04/26 05:13 PM
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Why are you pretending its a binary choice? You should have good style AND charisma. Not choose just one of them because you think one is more important. You might be the type of woman that loves a big buckle belt. But you have to concede most women don't like it
/r/seduction02/04/26 04:54 PM
3

Vin Diesel spotted
/r/seduction02/04/26 03:32 PM
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Get lost if you don't have anything to contribute
/r/seduction02/04/26 03:30 PM
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Spotted the guy who wears all this shit
/r/seduction02/04/26 03:30 PM
1

Whaaat bro. I agree plaid shorts. But sneakers and jeans is a classic (obviously depends on the sneakers and the jeans)
/r/seduction02/04/26 03:29 PM
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So much you could wear man. Just a few things you should not.
/r/seduction02/04/26 03:25 PM
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Learn flirting. It's a skill that requires practice. Stop mentally masturbating and get rejected in real life. Learn to be okay with rejection.
/r/seduction02/04/26 02:37 PM
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We are pretty much all attracted to women 18-22. But what's wrong with women aged 29? They often look identical to women aged 22. So I'm guessing it's not a looks-issue. But something else. So what about that age-range do you like? Their naivety? Their lack of experience? Or what exactly? You feel childish / immature so you want someone at your level? (purposefully being a bit prickly here to get at your core) Just trying to push you a little on this, because growing up is learning to be attract…
/r/seduction02/04/26 12:58 PM
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Can't tell from this. Just ask the question next time. You shouldn't ask us. You should have asked her if she wanted to go home with you. Risk the rejection
/r/seduction02/04/26 12:56 PM
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Lesson number 1: Don't develop crushes on women you're not already dating. Learn seduction skills by hitting on MANY different women in a setting where failing will not negatively impact your social reputation. Go to nightclubs, dating apps, travel around, bars, do daygame in a busy street etc. Sleep with many different women and you'll forget about this silly gym crush. There's a reason this sub is focused on learning seduction skills. NOT specific scenarios with "one woman" you want to succeed…
/r/seduction01/04/26 08:12 PM
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Almost none of us get direct verbal feedback on why. To learn with the absence of direct verbal feedback, we need to reflect. For example, you mentioned someone saying "they don't see you that way". This tells me already a key detail in the mistake of your approach: You tried to befriend this woman before dating her. Didn't you? She knew you already for some time before you made your move. So she got to see you in a different light than in a dating /seduction light. And this is further backed up…
/r/seduction01/04/26 08:08 PM
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It's very common for men to crush on their female friends. Alas, it's rarely reciprocated. It's great that you made the first mental shift from hating yourself to seeing it in a better light - where you're framing it as you're not being interested in women that aren't into you. I think that reframing can go further though. You could also see it as feedback and try to learn from it. That way, the rejection is feedback on your skills / approach / technique you tried. Or the type of woman you're hi…
/r/seduction01/04/26 07:38 PM
3

Yeah, you probably need to move to a new feeding ground. Seems like your city is played out. When a woman turns you down - what story do you tell yourself about what it means?
/r/seduction01/04/26 07:31 PM
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Two-stage process (this takes a long time btw): Re-interpret / reframe negative bad experiences in a way that it doesn't reflect negatively on your worth or inherent attractiveness. Whatever stories you've been telling yourself about how you suck - you need to rewrite those stories of what happened to you in a positive light. Be kind to yourself and optimistic. Therapy is good for this. It's a process. Learn dating / seduction skills and build small successes over time. These successes can be su…
/r/seduction01/04/26 07:12 PM
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This is super common for noobs. Here's the mindset shift you need to adopt to succeed: You need to feel almost "entitled" to women that are that attractive to you. Because you're so sure of your value / worth to women. You should assume attractive women are always into you, or readily available for you to date. Have an abundance mindset. Think that if she's super attractive to you - then automatically you have some kind of magical connection and she will find you super attractive too. "I find th…
/r/seduction01/04/26 06:59 PM
1

Where are you? Some countries / locations don't have much of a hook-up culture, and in that case you have to hyperfocus on finding a certain type of woman that goes against the norm.
/r/seduction01/04/26 02:54 PM
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Why worry about an algorithm you cannot control? From what I've heard from others, it seems Tinder is getting more and more buggy as time goes on. I think Match Group put their best engineers on the Hinge team, since the Hinge app is growing. Whereas Tinder is losing users so they probably get their staff cut, and retain only some lower level engineers to keep the app afloat while they try to milk every user as much as they can on the way down.. This is how businesses work. Move to Hinge and it …
/r/seduction01/04/26 12:09 PM
1

Double standard is real because it's appropriate: men are inherently more dangerous than women. Men stalk, rape, and kill more often than women do. So women will first evaluate us (stranger man) as a potential threat. Totally natural response to men being dangerous. Deal with it. Also, nobody expects you to understand every social nuance naturally. That's bullshit. And lastly, you have to be OK with coming across as potentially creepy. I have been approaching women for years, and consider myself…
/r/seduction01/04/26 12:03 PM
2

In person is more likely to lead to a "yes". Because it signals social confidence, and confidence is attractive. That said - texting her to ask her out is much better than nothing. And if she really likes you it's not going to be an issue.
/r/seduction31/03/26 05:25 PM
5

Escalate to sex, and be good at sex. There is no better method to increase your chances at getting a second date. At least not one that I've found. To get there, you need to venue-change to a sex-appropriate location at some point during the first date.
/r/seduction31/03/26 04:54 PM
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Go out more, cold approach more, ask more women on dates. This first part is not that complicated technically, because your main issue right now is just not taking enough action. I don't think you need any more advice until you experience some rejections.
/r/seduction31/03/26 10:56 AM
2

Woman messaging first on Tinder? Scammer.
/r/seduction31/03/26 10:55 AM
3

To attract an 8 or 9, you have to be an 8 or 9. Not saying lookswise (although it matters of course). But attractiveness-wise. As you know, there are many attractive qualities a man can have besides looks. If you are 5-6 lookswise and there's not much more to be done about looks, then you have to become a 9 or 10 in some other areas so that your overall attractiveness goes up from 5-6 to 8-9. Social skills is key.
/r/seduction31/03/26 10:13 AM
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What is your main goal with texting? Here's what it should be: GET HER ON A DATE! So.. did you ask her on a date or not? If not, that's your problem. Escalation is physical (kissing, sex etc.). Texting is generally not related to escalation. Texting is done mostly just to set up dates. Texting is about logistics. Once you have her on a date, that's when you think about escalation. There are many posts that cover physical escalation already.
/r/seduction29/03/26 07:20 PM
1

You don't need an explanation. It's totally normal for someone to suddenly lose interest in another person. You don't need to understand why it happened in this one particular case.
/r/seduction29/03/26 06:06 PM
3

I understand. You're an insecure guy, and you're afraid that your insecurity will make her turned off. Which it probably will. Totally valid, but also a bad self-fulfilling prophecy. Never ending cycle of doom, where more insecurity leads to more worry about your insecurity showing, which leads to more insecurity. And on and on it goes. There's no substitute to developing self-worth. You have to work on your mental attitude towards yourself. Fix limiting beliefs, get over looks-insecurities, mas…
/r/seduction29/03/26 05:01 PM
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Yes. It helps with outer game by validating that your approach works. And that also usually gives a boost to confidence and makes you less needy / desperate because you have access to more options. But it gets old fast (at least for me). Once you do that a few times, you definitely feel the itch to aim higher.
/r/seduction29/03/26 04:56 PM
1

Prolonged eye contact Moving closer to you / spending more time close to you Touching their hair Flipping their hair Doing anything with their hair Touching their body Smiling at you Laughing very easily / loudly at your dumb jokes Seeming overly impressed by what you say Complimenting you Looking at you more than they look at other people Finding excuses to touch you like: Pushing you away playfully Hitting you playfully "Fixing" some part of your clothes, like straightening your tie or removin…
/r/seduction29/03/26 01:28 PM
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Is it a reputational issue? Or is it that she wants a more long-term relationship (not casual sex)? If it's a reputational issue, then you can really help things along by: Give the impression of being a non-judgmental (sexually open-minded) guy. Give the impression that you are good at keeping secrets (you're not a bragger that will tell your friends about having had sex with her). If it's that she wants a long-term relationship, then you should find someone else if your goal is casual sex. But …
/r/seduction29/03/26 10:31 AM
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Solve the being a "hopeless romantic" issue, by learning seduction / game. You gotta start at the core problem: You don't have enough dating options. Fix that and all the other problems disappear. This subreddit is specifically made for people who need help with this, like you. So you can get more dating-options, which will in turn reduce your neediness and desperation.
/r/seduction28/03/26 08:17 PM
3

If she does that (stays away from you physically or leans away), it means she doesn't want escalation at that time. Talk to her about it first, before doing anything more.
/r/seduction28/03/26 06:13 PM
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In cases where I get confusing mixed signals, I always do a gentle verbal confrontation asking for clarification: Example: "I'm really enjoying our chat, but I also noticed you have your back pressed against the wall and you seem physically to want to stay away from me. Is everything OK?" Then she might respond with rejecting you, like "yeah, actually I don't think I'm interested romantically". OK Great, end the date then. No need to waste your time. Or, she might say "you know I'm just really n…
/r/seduction28/03/26 06:08 PM
2

You mostly just ask if they want to be your girlfriend, and then they say "yes". And then you play more with them than the other kids. Totally normal phenomenon among children. If you have spent any time in a daycare you would know many children claim they have a boyfriend or girlfriend. And they both agree about that. But they usually don't do much except spending more time together and playing more. Maybe give each other drawings or other gifts. Maybe draw some hearts and give each other messa…
/r/seduction28/03/26 05:50 PM
1

I think you're being a bit silly there. But I get it! Dating and pick-up is not the same thing
/r/seduction28/03/26 04:25 PM
1

What kind of insane comment is that
/r/seduction28/03/26 03:49 PM
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The younger you go, the harder it is to date them. So that just changes one problem for another.
/r/seduction28/03/26 02:06 PM
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Career can play a huge role. There's this idea that's very persuasive in psychology circles that women prefer drastically different things for casual sex versus a relationship. But these differences are usually overblown or overstated. The differences are usually minute. And if you think about it evolutionarily, casual sex was traditionally still likely to lead to a pregnancy just like a long-term relationship. So it makes sense that you want a guy with a good income / access to resources also i…
/r/seduction28/03/26 02:04 PM
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Have not experienced this at all. I've been dating since I was 5 years old. Kindergarten shit. Now I'm 37, and it has not changed much at all. What can often happen is a decline in your own mate value over time. For example, you got fat or out of shape. Or your looks declined in some other way. Or you moved to a new area with a less favorable selection of singles. Sometimes it's also what you have to offer. When you're in your 20s, offering a hot body and looks can be plenty to get laid. When yo…
/r/seduction28/03/26 01:45 PM
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Reddit is wrong here in this case. Most of the time, it's not a lack of interest. It's a safety issue. The guy above (Which_Competition611) is correct. Don't assume lack of interest so easily. There are perfectly good reasons to withhold a phone number from a total stranger.
/r/seduction28/03/26 01:27 PM
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It means she is not comfortable sharing her phone number with you at this time. This type of rejection is often done due to safety reasons. She has not met you yet - and therefore she is not yet comfortable sharing personal info like a phone number. Many apps specifically warn their users against sharing phone numbers. Because of the safety risk. There are many scammers and bad people that can use a phone number with bad intentions.
/r/seduction28/03/26 01:25 PM
2

Brother, if you already have made up your mind about what it means in the first place. Why do you feel the need ask us for our thoughts in this post? Just to waste our time?
/r/seduction28/03/26 01:22 PM
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If you're shy and don't know how to approach women - then you should practice that skill in a safer environment with random women you don't care about. Like dating-apps / night game / daygame. Practice seduction as a skill. Don't obsess over one woman that is not your girlfriend. This is lesson number 1.
/r/seduction28/03/26 07:52 AM
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Why do you feel the need to have back-ups?
/r/seduction28/03/26 07:51 AM
1

agreed!
/r/seduction26/03/26 06:51 PM
1

What about middle eastern chicks? You are middle eastern by appearance. So white Swedish girls will often assume you have less in common with them. Different cultural background and expectations for dating.
/r/seduction26/03/26 06:49 PM
1

Why? So you can continue sending low effort messages? Put in some effort, because then you'll use your brain to think creatively about how to write good messages. And this effort will pay off in the long run, allowing you to write good messages all the time more easily. But if you don't mentally struggle with it, and don't put in effort into it, you will remain dumb and bad and writing messages. Copy-pasting my messages doesn't teach you anything. You should struggle and think, just like I did. …
/r/seduction26/03/26 01:24 PM
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Lunch dates / day dates are the best, because they are easier to agree to. So if you want more women to go on dates with you, then it's better. You might say it's more difficult to convert a day / lunch date to sex. But it's not that much difference in my experience. Still doable.
/r/seduction26/03/26 01:04 PM
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I think I made my point. I wasn't just giving a bullshit story, I was actually accused of rape from such a scenario. Not just accused.. She went to the police and I got a call from them while at work. Does that sound traumatizing? It was. Besides that, I think it's immoral to use alcohol as a tool to get laid. There are many things that will make it easier to get laid. Like holding a knife. That doesn't mean it's a good thing to do. I'm not against it if she wants to drink herself. But if it's a…
/r/seduction26/03/26 12:53 PM
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Alcohol often makes women regret what they did, and it can more easily cause memory blackouts than in men. A memory blackout can lead to false rape accusation, and you won't be able to tell when someone is not recording their memories because they can be fully functional and consent to sex verbally and behaviorally - but still not remember consenting. That is what happened to me. Do I need to explain to you why coffee is better than alcohol?
/r/seduction26/03/26 12:43 PM
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I know, I read your post. I don't see how the price of beer is relevant to my advice. Get her coffee or beer - your call. If you think beer or coffee is too expensive, then you can't afford to date. Get a better job / make more money is my advice.
/r/seduction26/03/26 12:35 PM
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I think you have to swallow your pride, cry a little, and still get her coffee bro. The way I see it, if you can't afford a coffee, then you can't afford to date. Coffee is the lowest bar.
/r/seduction26/03/26 12:30 PM
2

This is a very lame, low effort message. It doesn't exactly inspire a woman to reply with enthusiasm. Come up with something more interesting
/r/seduction26/03/26 08:08 AM
1

Give me an example of a first message your send them.
/r/seduction25/03/26 08:00 PM
1

If you want to know why the apps aren't working - you need some women to review your profile. Plenty of women go out to get laid. I think you may be going to the wrong venues.
/r/seduction25/03/26 07:59 PM
2

You have rightly pointed out that being too verbal and direct with your communication too soon can be a turn-off. Some mystery initially is good. After all, it seems like your colleague has some interest in you from the beginning with these unanswered questions. So it's not all-bad. The problem happens when you stay in this "wondering stage" too long and don't communicate. Because then the mystery begins to turn into doubt. And the doubt turns into fear and hesitation. And eventually that turns …
/r/seduction24/03/26 09:49 PM
2

The main mistake you made here is lack of clarity in your communication. And I suspect that's because you're colleagues, so no-one wants to risk making the first move and clarify what this is and what you want. So I understand that you may want to play it safe, and not reveal your interest verbally. Instead you just dance around this topic and ignore the elephant in the room: Are you dating? Is it romantic? What are you looking for? Because these things are never discussed, it just creates an en…
/r/seduction24/03/26 09:03 PM
1

We don't know if she was interested. But if you want to date women - you should ask for her number when opportunities like this present themselves to you. Ask more women out right? That's the idea. Here's someone showing some interest in you. If you thought she was cute - it's on you to take advantage of that opportunity and risk the rejection. BTW what do you mean by "dating app type"?
/r/seduction24/03/26 06:38 PM
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There is no universal rule. It's personal to you: You look at the options you have and the goals you have. Then you decide how long you're willing to wait before nexting someone. You make that calculation on your own, based on the current situation, and nobody can make that choice for you. It's in my opinion really silly to place a strict rule on these things. There are just so many scenarios where it makes sense to cut someone off sooner, and other times it makes sense to wait longer. So why wo…
/r/seduction24/03/26 04:37 PM
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She's not interested. She's not interested. Yes. Because she's not interested.
/r/seduction24/03/26 02:59 PM
1

What do they know about you before you text? Do they know you in real life? Is this online? Do they see your profile or pictures or something like that before they see your text? What is it you text them?
/r/seduction24/03/26 02:25 PM
4

Do you know why they lose interest after a few days? What do you do right before they begin to lose interest?
/r/seduction24/03/26 01:37 PM
1

Nordic countries in general - we have a culture of not talking to strangers in public. Unless you're drunk on Saturday night.
/r/seduction24/03/26 01:05 PM
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Well, because it is frowned upon to do it, you have about 3 seconds to convince her that you're not a crazy weirdo since you're breaking the social norm. So if you get past that you're good. The challenge is changing her mind about you from "crazy weirdo" to "cool guy". It's quite difficult to change a bad first impression. Especially if you have limited time to do so. Being from a Southern European country will usually be seen as a plus though. Maybe that can be incorporated as an excuse for wh…
/r/seduction23/03/26 08:15 PM
1

Yes, because you are dating Sabrina Carpenter you are... not entitled.. that's not the right word. But you will most likely receive a luxury lifestyle from her by default. She will give it to you. That's how it usually works if you two become a proper couple, or you get married. Jeff Bezo's ex wife was also very rich while they were dating. She had access to his wealth. She could use his money to buy what she wanted. Just like his new wife got him to buy her a wedding celebration in Venice. He d…
/r/seduction23/03/26 08:08 PM
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Dating apps is the most commonly used, along with night clubs. Open to cold approach during the day, but it's a bit frowned upon. You need to find the right setting where women feel more safe. Most don't need a few dates to have intimacy. Just go straight for the bang same day. I'd say it's about 50/50 split with some prefering swedes, some prefering foreigners. But depends what type of foreigner. Not all foreigners have equal value in their eyes. Generally speaking - foreigners from wealthier c…
/r/seduction23/03/26 07:36 PM
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You have a vibe some women like. He has a vibe other women like. In a club there's many women. Some will like one vibe some will like another. He's also 5'7 and you're 5'4. So that makes a big difference in a looks-oriented space like a nightclub. Nightclubs are the online dating of the real world dating. They are the most looks-oriented venue you could shoot your shot. Because you basically can't talk and social status is absent (except for the people that work there). So all that is left is yo…
/r/seduction23/03/26 06:45 PM
2

Of course you made mistakes in your interaction with her. Everyone does. No-one is perfect. But that doesn't mean that on the whole you did poorly. Learn what you can. If you look back and don't really see any obvious flaws - spend a little time thinking harder about it for a few days. But if still nothing comes up, it's best to just assign the blame to her, that something is going on on her side that you're not aware of. Not your fault. Then close that story-loop in your mind and move on to the…
/r/seduction23/03/26 06:38 PM
1

Just to make you feel better (hopefully), here are some reasons it can happen that aren't within your control and are not your fault: - She may have gotten strong feelings for you. And she finds that very scary because she may be terrified of deeper commitment as that reminds her of some horrible trauma she went through as a child when her parents separated (or the time her ex broke up with her and banged her best friend), or some other trauma. Because it's just too scary to go further, she back…
/r/seduction23/03/26 06:32 PM
2

True. Well, you at least did the deed which is usually the right call to keep a person around for longer. Sometimes shit like this happens due to no fault of your own.
/r/seduction23/03/26 06:28 PM
2

And how did that go? Good or bad? Had you slept together before this date, or during?
/r/seduction23/03/26 06:26 PM
10

This is totally normal. But I will say one thing - you will have a lot more success with women sticking around if you had stuck your dick inside her. People will easily dump or ghost some person they only watched documentaries with. They may also do the same to a person they had sex with - but it will be much less often. They will usually get more involved with the person they're sleeping with. Because sex is a much deeper shared intimacy than watching something on a screen. Sex is not the only …
/r/seduction23/03/26 06:22 PM
1

Money and power / influence. Money is universally valued by people because it can easily be traded for nearly anything you'd want. You understand why it's beneficial to date someone with money and power / influence - yes? It gives you access to some of that money and influence. It gives you access to a "better" lifestyle in nearly every way. Look at Jeff Bezos' ex wife. She is one of the richest women on earth, allowing her immense freedom to do whatever she wants and having extreme access to al…
/r/seduction23/03/26 05:58 PM
3

Flirting is showing a romantic or sexual interest, usually in a playful way so that it's not 100% certain to others whether your intentions are actually romantic / sexual, or if you're just joking around. So here's some stupid-simple ways to flirt: - You look cute! - That dress looks good on you - So...are you single? 😉 - I haven't decided yet if I should ask you on a date, or if we're better of as friends 🤔 Are these examples amazing? Ensuring that you will 100% certainly have success? No. Of c…
/r/seduction23/03/26 03:33 PM
3

Limiting beliefs are a negative beliefs you have about yourself that are NOT based on fact. If you have a negative belief related to that, which is based on the reality that social status matters for dating, then you have a correct world-view. Social status impacting attraction is real. But not absolute. It plays a role, but you can still get laid with low social status. Provided you have other attractive qualities. Social status is just one variable impacting attraction out of thousands of fact…
/r/seduction23/03/26 01:56 PM
1

Another non-answer. If I was a woman, this it the point I would dump you for being a time-waster.
/r/seduction23/03/26 10:07 AM
1

You just confirmed that you're a time-waster. You spent 1000+ words not answering my questions: What are you dating for? Why are you doing it? Just like you waste the time of the other people you're "dating" that will ask you these questions. You should really consider a career in politics, where this skill of dancing around questions with long non-answers can come in handy.
/r/seduction23/03/26 09:51 AM
1

You can date in the way you describe. But most people will consider that a waste of time because there's no clear end goal with that type of dating. What are you dating for? Why are you doing it? It's like attacking Iran. There's no clear end goal, and they don't really know why they're doing it. Which leads to a shit-show. Same with dating. Dating without a goal leads to a shitshow of endless "I don't know where this is going.. what are we doing? What is it that you want?" questions. Questions …
/r/seduction23/03/26 09:09 AM
1

Sounds good man. Wish you the best of luck! It may also help to break down exactly what it is that makes it awkward. Is it that you feel awkward inside? Because sometimes just feeling awkward yourself can be enough to make people around you feel awkward. Even if you did not say or do anything unusual or strange. They can just tell from your body language you're in that "awkward feeling" state and they mirror it. It rubs off on them. Or is it awkward because you said or did the wrong thing? Then …
/r/seduction22/03/26 08:41 PM
1

That's a good sign that you can share it with others. And remember, you don't have to be totally "normal" for people to like you. Plenty of weird people are loved by millions. Such as Lady Gaga, Eminem, or Weird Al. They are not everyone's cup of tea and they don't try to be. Being weird / strange can be polarizing. People either love it or hate it. And that's fine. You don't have to please everyone or have everyone like you. You just need to have a small subset of women like you - and then you'…
/r/seduction22/03/26 08:19 PM
1

try some therapists specializing in Ptsd. are you comfortable talking about your trauma with people?
/r/seduction22/03/26 07:43 PM
1

Have you ever healed from those traumatic experiences through therapy or other inner work? What I mean by healed is that you no longer think about it in social settings, and you no longer change your behavior in certain ways because you're afraid such traumatic things can happen again.
/r/seduction22/03/26 07:02 PM
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Seems like you're slightly autistic or just have a unique vibe. And then you try to hide (mask) it by trying to fake it one way or the other. It reads as incongruent or weird, and turns people off. Question for you: Do you think this vibe is unchangable? I mean, like a core part of your personality that is there genetically or you were just born this way? OR: Are you acting this way because you're afraid of how you're coming across, or just don't know the right things to say. If this is the case…
/r/seduction22/03/26 06:32 PM
1

True
/r/seduction22/03/26 04:15 PM
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Bro, write some good content then. Instead of talking BS like you "need to make a woman shit-test you". I've never ever ever in my life "made a woman shit-test me", and it has NEVER been an issue in seduction. So I can only conclude that what you're saying is BS. I also notice you didn't even dispute what i said. You're just attacking me personally instead of defending the ideas in your post.
/r/seduction22/03/26 03:56 PM
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It's not this war-of-wills when you both want the same thing. The whole premise of your post is that women don't want the same thing as you - so therefore they need to be tricked with some frame-manipulation game.. And she's throwing shit-tests that you need to dodge left and right before she grants you entry to her vagina. It might come as a shock to you that most women want sex, and she may want it with you. So in that case, you are both paddling the canoe to the same destination. There's no n…
/r/seduction22/03/26 03:44 PM
1

You have no goal. Therefore - it's pointless for anyone to date you because you have no idea what you want or why you're dating in the first place. People should always swipe left on people that date without a dating-goal, because they waste everyone's time. You don't want casual sex. You don't want a relationship. Since you don't want either of those, you have no business "dating". Because the purpose of dating is to find casual sex or a relationship, or both (in the order of casual -> to serio…
/r/seduction22/03/26 03:29 PM
1

I mean it's definitely someone you should swipe "no" / left on. They're either Crazy (inconsistent logic or constantly changing their mind) Dumb (do not understand that casual usually means casual sex to most people) Trolling Asexual and/or Aromantic (and don't want to call something a date - they prefer going on something like 20 hangouts before forming a deep quazi-romantic friendship without labels. To them, that's "casual")
/r/seduction21/03/26 08:58 PM
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There's NOTHING bad about being thirsty for sex. You need to get that out of your mind that sex is bad. Or that women think it's bad. Of course, keep it respectful and consensual. Asking if it's okay to touch her this way and that way is great. But even better than this is asking how she likes to be touched or what kind of sex she likes. Then you're not just asking yes or no questions. You're trying to figure out what she wants to do specifically. Now, some women will want something serious only…
/r/seduction21/03/26 07:43 PM
3

If a woman feels like you're scared of getting sexual, or you are hesitating about your sexual desire for her. Then she will see that as a massive turn-off in most cases. Now, you can also have the opposite situation happen where you actively try to go for sex, but she stops you or doesn't want to. But it seems like you're not getting into this problem. I suggest you try to get to this point where you experience this problem, because then you're at least one step further towards your goal than i…
/r/seduction21/03/26 07:19 PM
2

Which other countries?
/r/seduction21/03/26 06:32 PM
1

What is the reason you don't have sex. Is it because she stops you, or because you stop escalating?
/r/seduction21/03/26 06:29 PM
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Do you prefer dancing or talking? If you prefer dancing - club. If you prefer talking - bar. Saturday nights is usually more packed with harder partying (club might be better). But Friday night has chill after-work beer crowd if that's more your vibe (bar might be better).
/r/seduction21/03/26 06:27 PM
2

Don't be a truck driver.
/r/seduction21/03/26 03:57 PM
3

You have to accept that most women don't want to date most men that randomly message them on Snapchat. So part of it is just accepting a low success rate. That's how it is and you cannot change that fact. Apart from that, analyze if you did something different between the times you were successful versus the times you failed. Sometimes you can find nuggets of information there about what you did differently that may have influenced the results to be better one time, and worse the other.
/r/seduction21/03/26 01:51 PM
8

Same as you did when you had your successes.
/r/seduction21/03/26 01:44 PM
9

Driving most of the fear you have underlying unhelpful / limiting or wrong beliefs, such as perhaps: Failing with women makes me a loser Shooting my shot makes me creepy If I succeed, she will break my heart If she rejects me, that means I'm worthless I need to say "exactly the right things" or she will reject me I don't know what to say or talk about that is "correct" and will make it work out A woman's opinion of me is more important than my own opinion of myself, so I really need to make wome…
/r/seduction21/03/26 12:57 PM
3

In a loud nightclub dancefloor - yes. Typically that is the order of things. First escalate, then talk. Now, obviously there's nothing inherently wrong with doing it the other way. But because it's so loud and difficult to hear each other inside, that will require you to go outside with her first. And if a woman has stood in line to get into a place, or her friends are nearby - she usually doesn't want to step outside just for a chat. But she may leave the place with you if you made out and she …
/r/seduction20/03/26 06:37 PM
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You are likely to succeed, and you're probably a lot closer than you think. BPD is actually very likely to go into remission or be "healed" over several years for those that work on it. You may no longer have BPD according to the criteria at this time (you can check that yourself by looking up the diagnostic criteria). But yes, the key is to adapt when you experience the same failure again and again. That's your cue to do something different, and also ask for feedback or help. Seems like you're …
/r/seduction20/03/26 06:25 PM
5

Then ask for it :-) Dance with her first for a few minutes. Maybe make-out. Then ask .
/r/seduction20/03/26 06:20 PM
1

What is your goal?
/r/seduction20/03/26 06:13 PM
3

Therapy probably cannot fully fix it alone, but it can improve things. It might also improve your voice - I would ask the therapist about that because often there's psychological reasons for why someone begins adopting a weak or higher pitched voice. Those are often signalling submissiveness - which can be a highly effective conflict-avoidance strategy. So if you often felt the need to avoid conflict in your early life, then you may have adopted that way of speaking to keep a lower profile and a…
/r/seduction20/03/26 06:09 PM
3

I don't know if you have a voice issue. Are you aware of having a voice issue, and if so - what is causing it? Stopping impulses. Let me ask you - Do you have ADHD and perhaps also the symptoms of Rejection Sensitive Dysphoria (RSD? Just to provide context, here's what I got from Gemini on it to give you a quick primer: RSD is an extreme emotional sensitivity and physical pain triggered by the perception—not necessarily the reality—that you have been: Rejected Teased Criticized A disappointment …
/r/seduction20/03/26 03:42 PM
2

So as soon as you meet or call them - they lose all interest. The timing here is your sign: You are possibly catfishing with your pictures, or your voice is bad, or you say the wrong things. They were exposed to new information about you at this time, and that is when they lost interest. That tells you that whichever information was shown to them right before they lost interest is to blame for them losing interest. So think about what that could be. If deeper underlying issues are causing you to…
/r/seduction20/03/26 03:01 PM
4

There are a different few ways to accomplish this: Become a celebrity. Go somewhere where your skin-color is highly sought-after and uncommon. Especially rural areas that almost never get travelers. For example, you're completely black and you go to some parts of Mexico where dark skin color is highly valued. Or if you're white - go to the rural Philippines. If you're mixed / brown - then you will typically be popular among women in rural areas in Norway and Finland. If going all the way to cele…
/r/seduction20/03/26 01:55 PM
2

You don't have to learn any dance moves or be good at dancing. Women look to see if you have confidence and are having fun. They don't care if you dance like a monkey with brain damage. Matter of fact, dancing like a monkey with brain damage can make you seem like more fun and confident. So it might actually be to your benefit compared to trying to look "cool" with the right moves.
/r/seduction20/03/26 01:34 PM
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Just dance freely and have fun in the middle of the most crowded area first for about 5 minutes. The women that are interested will often naturally begin getting closer to you and dance nearby. And the women that are less interested will move away. If someone is really forwards, and really likes you they might "accidentally" bump into you from behind or from the side. But usually, they'll just dance nearby. The girlfriend of my best friend told me that "there are no accidental bumps on the dance…
/r/seduction20/03/26 10:05 AM
1

If someone expects you to respond immediately - they are toxic. Texting itself is not toxic.
/r/seduction20/03/26 08:57 AM
1

yeah yeah, keep dreaming bud
/r/seduction20/03/26 08:40 AM
2

When you say the "real woman there live too far". What does that mean? You live outside the city? The city itself has 141,449 women, median age 36 years old. Which should be right up your alley. Population density shouldn't be a problem in the city itself. I think getting an FWB there should be very doable man. Especially with a little bit of patience and a proactively social lifestyle.
/r/seduction19/03/26 08:43 PM
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The chance is so extremely small that a woman just randomly does that, that it's not something that usually causes a man to be extremely worried about it. But if you haven't been acting like a dick, and you're still worried - then my follow up comment to OP explains the mindset to adopt in that scenario
/r/seduction19/03/26 03:58 PM
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Younger women are usually more scared and insecure. Just like young men. Adapt to your audience. Give younger women more time, more space, and be more flexible. Then they will feel safer with the idea of meeting you.
/r/seduction19/03/26 02:33 PM
0

At some level, you have to be 100% okay with people spreading rumours or talk shit about you behind your back. Why? Because you can't control it. How do you think celebrities feel? This is happening to them daily. Most of them shrug it off and stop caring about it
/r/seduction19/03/26 02:13 PM
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If you don't act like a dick, why would they spread rumours? Seems like you're worried perhaps because you have been acting like a dick. If so, it may be time to see this feeling as a sign to change your ways so that the risk of public exposure of your "dick behavior" is reduced. You mentioned "her bf". So you're fucking women that have a boyfriend? That is one of those things that is by many considered "dick behavior". Try to avoid that if you're worried about public ridicule.
/r/seduction19/03/26 02:10 PM
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Thinking that hitting on women to get success with women is "crap advice" tells me that you are exactly that noob that has no success with women because you don't dare to get rejected.
/r/seduction19/03/26 08:57 AM
1

Variation in genetics & the environment growing up. If you want to learn why humans (and most species) are different from each other genetically, then I really recommend picking up some books on evolution that usually explains this. DNA: We differ genetically in how brave we are, how socially skilled we can become, and how fast we learn social skills. Some kids are genetically born to be very shy. Others are born to be pro-social and risk taking. Being pro-social and risk taking genetically pays…
/r/seduction18/03/26 08:13 PM
1

Correct, most guys figure out the basics naturally. However, most guys don't really get exceptionally good at it. They get kinda OK or half-bad at it. The average amount of women a guy sleeps with in a lifetime is like maybe 10 (last time I checked the actual data, it was 7, but I think it has increased a bit since then). But most wish they slept with a lot more than that. Like many say the ideal is 20 - 30 in a lifetime or more. So there's a gap between the success most guys are achieving, and …
/r/seduction18/03/26 07:55 PM
2

Every single man on earth, had at some point "no idea how to talk to women" or how to flirt with women, or how to ask them out. But anyone with half a brain, even the majority of children above say, age 7, understand that it usually involves the guy asking a woman on a date or asking her to meet him alone for a movie or coffee or at least to hangout, or something like that. Or that he must give her a romantic compliment or confess romantic feelings or ask her about her feelings towards him. Or e…
/r/seduction18/03/26 07:33 PM
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True, but they got to try opening. They got to practice chatting. They got to practice learning to see signs of disinterest. They also got more comfortable with this scary idea of approaching a stranger in a bar. Even with zero feedback, they still learn a lot more than the guy that did not approach at all.
/r/seduction18/03/26 06:37 PM
10

It's a dating-app. How can they know your personality through a dating-app that is based on a few photos and minimal texting?
/r/seduction18/03/26 06:29 PM
6

try "want to go for a coffee / tea sometime? I've always wanted to try this place called X near Y street"
/r/seduction18/03/26 06:28 PM
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Yeah, because you take it personally and see it as a reflection of your worth. That's what I said in my post that you should NOT do.
/r/seduction18/03/26 06:24 PM
3

How did you learn to walk? How did you learn to talk? How did you learn a sense of humor? Did you learn it through theory first, or practice first? I know plenty of hilariously funny people that have never read any "theory on humor" or consumed "how to be funny" articles. Nor do they have a "humor coach". Humor is a good example here, since it's a social skill, quite similar to flirting you could say.
/r/seduction18/03/26 05:57 PM
7

Many consider this type of behavior emotional cheating. She was probably very into you, but not willing to break things off with the boyfriend
/r/seduction18/03/26 04:57 PM
15

True! There is also something to be said for how you tried to make a move / push things further. One mistake guys often make is that they try to take it further by confessing their deep feelings for her, when they should have just started by asking her out.
/r/seduction18/03/26 04:50 PM
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Nope. I heavily advice people to use theory, but theory is secondary. It is completely pointless without real-world experience FIRST. Just like you can't learn much basketball from reading a book. Better go out there, try playing the game and figure out what your issues are first. Once you have identified your actual real-world issues - that's where the beauty of theory and secon-hand knowledge from other people comes in. But without that personal experience, you have no idea what issues you eve…
/r/seduction18/03/26 04:08 PM
1

The best way to start is to ask out 100 women on a date. Just go daygame - knock out 100 in one day.
/r/seduction18/03/26 04:07 PM
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The best way to learn is to try, fail, evaluate / think about what you did and why you failed. "Structured material" is not the best way to learn social skills. If you want to learn faster and better: Seek out more rejection. Then think about why you got rejected, and adjust your approach. Learn from your failures.
/r/seduction18/03/26 09:34 AM
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Depends where you meet them. If you're meeting most women when they're drunk at raves / nightclubs / parties. I can assure you, most of them want a hook-up, not a relationship. If you meet them sober through friends or social circles - it's way more likely that they want a relationship.
/r/seduction18/03/26 09:25 AM
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You probably need to talk a lot less than you think. This is not the time or place to impress with lots of conversation. Especially since you use dance-game - it's the time to dance, make-out, and go home together. You don't have to say much other than like "wanna get out of here?" and logistics. Anything else - let her decide how much she wants to talk and what to ask you.
/r/seduction17/03/26 08:08 PM
1

Here is how I approach this: Principle 1: Generally, only continue chat if she seems to want that. Don't force conversation or talk just to talk. Principle 2: Always send a confirmation-message the day off the date. Then there's the gap in time between setting the date, and the date itself. Here's how I handle that: 3 days or less: No talk needed. 4-7 days: Good with one or two messages in gap, but nothing major. 7+ days: She will likely ghost you, so don't bother messaging unless she seems keen…
/r/seduction17/03/26 02:35 PM
2

In my experience, 100% worth it. It's amazing. Obviously, you should also want to do other things in those countries than just sex. Your dick can only stay hard for so long anyways and you can't have sex 12 hours a day. But if dating / sex is your primary motivation there's no problem with that. It's very enjoyable imo
/r/seduction17/03/26 09:37 AM
1

Personal messages will almost always do better than generic openers. Because women can tell when you put in effort. If she gets 5 matches, and 4 of them wrote generic messages and 1 guy wrote a personal message based on something in her profile - if they all look equally hot, who do you think she'll reply to? The personal message obviously. That also makes you seem more like a real human being rather than a bot. You'll also improve your chatting skills by thinking about what to write. Generic op…
/r/seduction17/03/26 09:32 AM
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This advice is, in my experience, more often told to women than men. And that can work for women - because men will often make the first move. When it comes to telling this kind of stuff to men - the fact is that many indeed get lucky in the sense that they find someone through normal social interactions without putting in much effort (or any effort). Then they believe that this is good advice because it "worked for them". They don't attribute it to luck. It's a common human bias to attribute su…
/r/seduction17/03/26 09:18 AM
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I don't believe in business conspiracy theories like those, from outsiders that have never worked in the company. Dating-apps are extremely prone to inducing superstition into their users, because getting matches can swing wildly up and down from day to day or week to week -and then users of course want some kind of explanation for that. And that's when the superstition and conspiracies enter the picture. Now they begin telling themselves all kinds of stories about how the app is tricking them t…
/r/seduction16/03/26 08:22 PM
1

I don't believe in giving blanket advice devoid of any problem presented. If someone doesn't present a clear problem -> I tell them that they don't need any advice yet. Well, maybe except for "try and fail" -> then come back for advice when you failed and don't understand why you failed. That's when they would need advice.
/r/seduction16/03/26 08:13 PM
2

I am not mentioning anything about how men can friendzone women. My comment is purely about women friendzoning men.
/r/seduction16/03/26 06:22 PM
1

This is exactly the type of stereotyping based on someone's age that I was warning about in my first comment.. You just proved my point by stereotyping like crazy
/r/seduction16/03/26 06:14 PM
3

you mean explain? What part?
/r/seduction16/03/26 03:16 PM
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If you get friendzoned it's because you befriend them before you hit on them. Hit on them before you befriend them, and the problem goes away. You will never be friendzoned by a woman that is not your friend. It's only when you delay showing your romantic / sexual intentions that you get friendzoned.
/r/seduction16/03/26 03:11 PM
0

If someone is 30+ and they're acting 18, then they should be given feedback relevant to the stage of development they are at - ie. 18. So again, the age becomes unnescessary info. As long as we know what he's doing, thinking, and what his problem / goal is - age doesn't matter. We don't need that context.
/r/seduction16/03/26 03:08 PM
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You're already focused too much on how you're going to "perform" on this date to win her over. That's just another symptom of future-planning and overinvesting. It's needy and desperate and will make you act in an insecure manner. You need the opposite: Chill out. Don't think about how to do well. Just go on the date without a clear plan. Stop caring about her, or whether the date goes good or bad or whatever happens. Stop caring so much and let go.
/r/seduction16/03/26 02:52 PM
2

Disagree, because age-shaming and age-stereotyping is a problem. I see a young guy, 18, asking for legit advice, and then he just gets a bunch of "just wait until you're older bro - it will change". How does that help him? It doesn't. It reduces his agency to nothing and he's just being told to sit and wait until he ages to the "right age" according to the internet bros.
/r/seduction16/03/26 02:26 PM
1

Yeah bro - that's how it's supposed to be. There are always some haters / envious people that were cool to have you as a friend when you were struggling. But as soon as you start coming up, they feel threatened. You're essentially entering into a status battle (from their point of view), and they begin actively fighting you to keep their perceived lead in status.
/r/seduction16/03/26 01:27 PM
1

Sorry to hear that man. I know friendships are important, but when a friend doesn't want to see you "win" anymore, it's time to cut that friend off in my opinion. Time to upgrade your friend to a new and better model! BTW - keeping sabotaging friends around for a prolonged time can also mess with your sense of self-worth. So it's also good for your mental health to have supportive friends instead of sabotaging friends. That goes beyond just the cockblocking in the moment. I have ditched all past…
/r/seduction16/03/26 01:19 PM
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You run away. Red flags galore. This girl is very emotionally unstable - and getting deeper involved with someone like that almost always fucks up your life. Not saying I know for sure, obviously cannot diagnose from a far and I'm no therapist. But this is the type of behavior someone with Borderline Personality Disorder will often do... You have been warned.
/r/seduction15/03/26 08:12 PM
1

Yes, this is actually a fantastic mindset around seduction. And once you're there, it unfortunately also means you became addicted to the game - so getting out of it is near impossible.
/r/seduction15/03/26 06:09 PM
5

And then you wait for them to respond. And then you go into basic dating-app-like chit-chatting, ask her out within a few messages.
/r/seduction15/03/26 04:36 PM
1

You stand out by having a better Instagram profile. Your first message is NOT where you impress them. It's when they see your profile that they will take note. Your first message is just a "ping" to see if they will even respond. Just something short and friendly - not showing your romantic intentions. Like 5 words max. How do you stand out on Instagram with your profile? Well, be handsome. Don't be ugly. Have 10 million followers. Lots of cool content where you seem charming and handsome yada y…
/r/seduction15/03/26 04:31 PM
2

Aim for the most normal handshake. Not firm, not loose. Right in the middle.
/r/seduction15/03/26 03:55 PM
1

It's essentially up to her. Some will be okay, and some won't.
/r/seduction15/03/26 03:35 PM
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Because, in general throughout history - causal sex has been seen as worse than a long-term committed relationship. The explanation is simple: Casual sex led to a lot of fatherless babies (which is bad for everyone involved except for him - so it's a selfish move on his end), and it also spreads STDs around (which is bad for everyone). These old problems with casual sex still influence culture and preferences 'til this day. This idea of contraceptives and protection against Stds with condom use …
/r/seduction15/03/26 01:11 PM
2

Step 1: Find out where the women are. Do some research. Google is your friend. Step 2: Go to where they are or travel to get there. Step 3: Profit. Why are you against dating-apps? Shooting yourself in the foot by not using them.
/r/seduction15/03/26 12:27 PM
2

So be okay with stopping the heavy make-out. In general, that's how you should do escalation in general -> two steps forwards, one step back. You leave her wanting more and tease her. The amateur move is to escalate in a straight line (more more more) like an unstoppable train. That feels overwhelming and will often cause her to pump the breaks. So in one of those breaks from making out / kissing / escalating, you can drop this line right here: "Before we continue, there's something I need to sh…
/r/seduction15/03/26 12:06 PM
2

Stop being facetious. Before sex you should slow down from the kissing / petting, and have a sex talk. A talk about sex. During that talk is when I share it. And of course it's not "hot". That's not the point of that talk. It's often a turn-off. But you gotta share it at some point. And if you share it at this point it's often past her imaginary "point of no return". She has already decided she wants to sleep with you, and therefore she's more likely to accept some added conditions - like you no…
/r/seduction15/03/26 07:33 AM
2

If I can't prove it's true, then I don't know if it's true. I'm okay with not knowing something. I don't have to believe something just to feel good. It's actually unintelligent to do so. Your beliefs should follow evidence or logical reasoning. It's unwise to believe something because you "feel it to be true" when you cannot prove it. Be cool with saying "I don't know".
/r/seduction14/03/26 06:43 PM
1

Not 1 second before sticking it in. More like 5-10 minutes before getting into sex
/r/seduction14/03/26 06:34 PM
0

Try telling them right before fucking. That's what I do. I'm like "just so you know, I'm not looking for something serious, I'm also meeting other people"... 90% of them say "okay yeah that's fine" and then bang.
/r/seduction14/03/26 02:39 PM
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I've been doing ENM for most of my adult dating-life. From what I know about Japanese dating-culture, it's very unique in that non-monogamy is common and several women don't consider it cheating if you go to a prostitute for example. And many have multiple boyfriends or girlfriends at the same time. If I were you, consider that option of trying to spin things into multiple-long term open relationships. So they all get to have the "girlfriend" title if that's important to them. But, that said, it…
/r/seduction14/03/26 02:25 PM
3

Have you tried to replicate it / get into that mindset? It requires intention. Decide beforehand you're going to get into that exact mindset tonight, without alcohol. You will act as IF you're on alcohol. Decide this before you even leave for the party.
/r/seduction14/03/26 09:57 AM
4

Number 1 step towards solving a problem is knowing what the problem is and where it comes from. You are already there mate, so the rest is comparatively easy. Here are some basic ways to express "more than friendship" interest in more forwards way. It's generally a ladder: Asking them out on a date (yes, that simple) Asking for a kiss Inviting her to your house Inviting her to your bedroom Talking about sex Asking for sexual acts That's pretty as easy as it gets. You have to be OKAY with the fac…
/r/seduction13/03/26 08:27 PM
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It's good to give up on women that act disinterested rather quickly if you're pretty sure it's actual disinterest. But that's regardless of date number. Even if it's 10 minutes into the first date, and she becomes cold or disinterested - just end the date. This can happen after date 20. Date number is not the variable that matters. It's not like the second date is a magical time to make a decision. It's the displayed interest level that matters. Not the time.
/r/seduction13/03/26 03:17 PM
1

You're in the wrong sub
/r/seduction13/03/26 02:51 PM
1

sure
/r/seduction13/03/26 01:42 PM
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Modeling Scout for Les Wexner
/r/seduction13/03/26 01:41 PM
1

Yeah, it's not really a point to try to build attraction much over text. Just ask her out brother. Get her on a date.
/r/seduction13/03/26 01:14 PM
1

There you go! This is a big untapped opportunity if you're comfortable exploring new style options
/r/seduction13/03/26 08:56 AM
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I mean, totally normal that some women don't want to escalate to something more. But it's good to gently prod a bit into the reason. She said "can I say no to that?" And then of course you say "yes of course, not a problem at all. I respect your boundaries"... And then you wait a second or two, and then ask either for more explanation or ask what she IS comfortable with doing. Maybe she just have a weird thing about hand-holding but is OK with sex. People have really weird rules sometimes. I've …
/r/seduction12/03/26 08:25 PM
2

OK, if she's hesitant about touching - ask her about it. Ask if you're moving too fast.
/r/seduction12/03/26 08:12 PM
5

Are you trying hand-holding in public? In my experience, escalating in a public space is taboo in many Asian cultures. So I recommend getting to a bedroom setting before escalating.
/r/seduction12/03/26 08:03 PM
3

I usually compliment something on her profile that is not her looks, and ask a question (again, not about her looks). This gives her 2 topics to choose from if she wants to reply. For example: Love the color grading on your grid. What software do you use? It's all about the bullshit excuse. You contact her with a bullshit excuse to see if she responds positively or not. The more relevant the bullshit excuse, the more it won't seem like bullshit. That's why you keep it relevant to something you s…
/r/seduction12/03/26 02:23 PM
2

Are you an alt/artsy/emo guy? If not, I would start becoming one. Like attracts like.
/r/seduction12/03/26 01:23 PM
12

Yeah, it's just a gradual shift to being more and more online in the early stages of dating. Not much else has changed. For reference, I'm 37. Dating has not changed much in the time I've been alive. In my view- people often overestimate how much of it has changed. When you ask what has changed, they will say "dating apps made women more picky"... But trust me on this -> before dating-apps women were just as picky.
/r/seduction12/03/26 09:20 AM
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This is strange, because I dated several Chinese mainland women in the US like this. And while some were a bit shy and reserved - most would still accept my advances. They're horny just like other women. If you ask them what they're looking for, and they say "I don't know" - that typically means casual sex is on the table. Just proceed as normal. Don't expect as much enthusiasm in body language or verbally - that's a cultural difference to act more reserved. Don't let that throw you off your gam…
/r/seduction12/03/26 08:54 AM
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I agree with Arexos - doing this is completely OK of course, but it is moving it from FWB into a relationship. It's a very common path. If you think behaving like this this for a prolonged time will leave you as long-term FWBs, that's typically overly optimistic. Just wait until the other shoe drops. I can't emphasize this enough: Women desire, above all, commitment. The times they want casual is just temporary (they will revert to prefer commitment usually within a few months) - or they're just…
/r/seduction12/03/26 08:43 AM
1

Yeah for sure, if you need like 2 taylored suits + 3 chinos + 3 shirts. I mean you pretty much covered the cost of the trip with what you saved and then some. Plus you get a cool trip to India included.
/r/seduction11/03/26 07:26 PM
1

Yes I was just in India, and clothes were 1/5th of the price as in Norway. For the US, maybe it's 1/4th of the price. So just imagine the store being 75% off everything compared to what you see in the US, and tailoring is often included if the store is a bit nicer and it's a simple garment like length of pants. If you're going to get a fitted suit taylored - I mean, this is even better. Now you save even more money. Prices right now are a bit crazy for flights due to oil shortage and middle east…
/r/seduction11/03/26 07:17 PM
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The way to text them for just sex is the same way you text them as you did when you ended up in relationships. The issue is that you accepted relationship. You just need to learn to say "no" to that. You clearly already know how to get women into bed. You just need to say "no" to a relationship. That's all. It's self-control my man. You can also set their expectations, but don't do that over texting typically. Better right before sex, just say "btw I'm not looking for anything serious, is that c…
/r/seduction11/03/26 07:11 PM
0

Ok, I have a short-term hack and a long-term path: Short-term hack: If money is an issue, plan everything you want to buy - all the items you need. Then fly to India and buy them there. You can get everything tailored for next to nothing. Many stores will even do it for you free of charge. If you need a LOT of clothes this will essentially save you money in the long run because clothes are about 1/5th the price there. Long-term plan: What I recommend is to go to many different stores and try man…
/r/seduction11/03/26 07:04 PM
1

Your clothes should not affect your self-esteem.... like.. at all. That's terrible if you allow what you're wearing to dictate how you feel. Like you should have amazing self-esteem even if dressed like a turd sandwich. Be cooler than your clothes! Heck with this kind of insecurity you should challenge yourself to approach women dressed horribly, just so you can get over it. That said: What is wrong with the clothes you don't like or don't feel comfortable wearing? Is it fit, fashion, function, …
/r/seduction11/03/26 06:44 PM
2

Do you want to get the date? Play ball and be flexible & open to her input. Do you have 2 women to choose from that you could go out with? Then choose the one that is more agreeable to your proposals if you want sex.
/r/seduction11/03/26 02:13 PM
1

"Do you know a good place to get coffee around here? .... Want to join me while I wait for a friend?"
/r/seduction11/03/26 01:36 PM
3

It's not necessary to have a wing. The pick-up itself is slightly easier because you can push each other and provide emotional support and tips / feedback. You can also more easily open groups together. I found a wing through a local pick-up forum back in the day. See if there are any local groups in your area. But don't think it's a requirement. Going out alone can be more challenging but also more rewarding. It just starts you out at a bit higher difficulty-setting.
/r/seduction11/03/26 01:32 PM
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Heck yeah bro!!! If you're a seducer, coming across as creepy is just a normal Tuesday. You can only do so much to show intention while not coming across as creepy. Approaching and hitting on women comes with the inherent risk of creeping women out. You can only avoid it so much, because plenty of women are just generally creeped out by strange men approaching them. I can also tell from your post you care too much what others think about you. You have to become ok with being seen as creepy. Be o…
/r/seduction11/03/26 08:41 AM
1

Try to escalate to the hook-up stage -> fail -> don't understand? -> ask for advice Try to escalate to the hook-up stage -> fail -> understand? -> learn Try to escalate to the hook-up stage -> succeed? -> success
/r/seduction11/03/26 08:34 AM
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At this stage right here: You don't need any advice. Come back when you're actually failing at something. Don't ask before you've even tried. Who knows - you might have perfect success at your next 5 attempts, and may not need any advice at all. You just don't know because you're not risking failure yet. You're not risking rejection. Do that first. Make some moves.
/r/seduction10/03/26 08:03 PM
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Many guys struggle with self-worth strategies. They tie their sense of self-worth directly to "how many matches with hot women" they can get on the apps. When they don't get matches, it crushes their sense of worth. That makes them angry and then they hate the apps. They never stop to consider if tying their sense of self worth directly to "number of hot matches on dating apps" was a smart decision.
/r/seduction10/03/26 07:04 PM
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These go together. The more you increase the sexual tension, the more pressure builds with it. So it's about finding a balance where there is some sexual tension but not too much. Let's say you've been making out with a girl on first date, tension is high. But to keep that tension you can end the date early with an excuse. Or stop kissing before she wants to. Leave her wanting more! Another way to increase sexual tension is through gentle sexting / talking about sex or flirty messages. This also…
/r/seduction10/03/26 06:33 PM
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I used to have this same opinion. But I've changed my mind and I'm a bit more flexible now. It all depends imo. There are ways to reduce pressure for the next date so she doesn't feel like sex is 100% expected. There are also plenty of ways to keep the sexual tension. I agree with you that these are issues to be aware of (loss of tension or too much pressure). But I also know that if you are aware of these - you can navigate around those icebergs and sail the Titanic into the harbor at a later t…
/r/seduction10/03/26 06:13 PM
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Around that time you should go to bars. That's when the after-work crowd goes to get brewskies. You'll often find crowds of 5+ people - and they're almost always co-workers. I do not recommend street approaches at that time. The people walking outside at that time is usually on their way home from work and tired. But if you find a nice park on a beautiful day with nice weather, and there is a nice sunset going on - then of course! There's exceptions to every rule
/r/seduction10/03/26 05:32 PM
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I have posted on topics to talk about in my last post. As for pics, yeah use photofeeler.com it's not that tricky really
/r/seduction09/03/26 05:19 PM
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I had to learn to be okay with being seen as potentially creepy. that most women also desire sex (wooot) that it's a numbers game. The more you shoot your shot the better to be okay with rejection. See it as feedback. Try not to take it personally. what to talk about on dates how to escalate physically when to move on from a bad prospect how to get good pics of myself spotting signs of interest and disinterest in the moment - so I can course-adjust on the spot.
/r/seduction09/03/26 04:45 PM
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You can employ exponential reach out to maximize your chances with that one woman. It works like this where you exponentially wait longer between each attempt: Cold responses? Wait 1 week and reach out. Cold response / no response again? Wait 2 weeks and reach out. Cold response / no response again? Wait 4 weeks and reach out. Cold response / no response again? Wait 8 weeks and reach out. etc. But honestly, who has time for that shit. Isn't it much better to just move on as quickly as possible a…
/r/seduction09/03/26 04:34 PM
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The easiest way to get a girlfriend for a guy with autism, is to aim to date women with autism. The research on this so far has found that people with autism are 11 times more likely to end up in a relationship with someone that also has autism. Either way, trying to date neurotypicals is going to be possible if your autism is mild. But if your autism is pronounced, it's nearly impossible to date a neurotypical person. Just being honest and realistic with you. It will also help to be more upfron…
/r/seduction08/03/26 04:51 PM
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Every man that has lived in a small city, knows that the size of the dating market is extremely important. The bigger the better. Yes, they have more options - but so do you. So everyone has a much higher chance of finding someone single and horny they're attracted to at any given time. Finding a match becomes easier for everyone.
/r/seduction08/03/26 02:05 PM
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Inner Dublin has 592 713 people. Inner London has 3.1 million people. The size of the dating-market is much bigger in London.
/r/seduction08/03/26 01:34 PM
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Don't swear off LinkedIn either. I had a woman match with me on a dating app after she had seen me on LinkedIn in the past. LIke wtf 😂 bit of a red flag tho
/r/seduction08/03/26 01:08 PM
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Correct, but if she's telling you that she's not dating. That means she probably doesn't want to date you in particular. You have to read between the lines and ask yourself "why is she telling me this?" Why would she tell you she doesn't want to date right now? Most likely, it's to convey to you, that she's not interested in dating you. And she's saying she's "not interested in dating in general" just because that will usually be enough to stop you from trying to date her. And it prevents you fr…
/r/seduction08/03/26 11:27 AM
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You did the right thing, and no, you should not have escalated in this situation. You should have jumped ship - pick a new target. She was very clearly telling you that she did not want to date.
/r/seduction07/03/26 04:26 PM
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Ok, but what is the problem then? The fact that she is saying you should date others because she's uncomfortable being you being essentially loyal /monogamous to her? Or like... You wish you felt motivated when you don't..?
/r/seduction07/03/26 11:06 AM
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Find something on her dating-profile to talk about first.
/r/seduction07/03/26 09:59 AM
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The issue here is not your complacement. It's the fact that you have feelings for her, that she doesn't have for you. This is usually the case in FWB. One person develops feelings - the other doesn't. You don't have that motivation towards seeing other women because you already have feelings for her.
/r/seduction07/03/26 09:49 AM
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Got money & it's tourist season? Barcelona. Place is full of millionaires. Poor or it's not tourist season? Madrid. More party party student crowd.
/r/seduction06/03/26 07:27 PM
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Yeah I consider that a very small city. You can still have success there, but there will just naturally be fewer opportunities. If you just want casual sex - travel is your best friend. Go to cities with 500K or more inhabitants.
/r/seduction06/03/26 03:49 PM
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Do you live in a small suburb or smaller town by any chance? When you're 27, the best place to be geographically is close to a large university in a large city. There are hundreds, if not thousands of single young women at large universities and surrounding areas. You may want to consider moving from where you are to greener pastures.
/r/seduction06/03/26 02:57 PM
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Become an attractive man - that's my advice to you. Almost any man can become attractive with some effort. Especially when you only have to look handsome for a split second in a photo. Fix looks, style, pics. That's all.
/r/seduction06/03/26 02:40 PM
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Yes, it can come across as creepy or pushy. You cannot completely avoid it. Because any sexual escalation, verbal or physical - comes with a risk attached to it. She might reject you. To reduce the chance of coming across wrong, you need to develop this social skill of "reading the room", / reading the vibe, as well as reading the particular woman you're with. Is this a setting where sex-talk is appropriate? For example: Is this a lunch date at a busy café? Then it's probably not appropriate. Is…
/r/seduction06/03/26 02:35 PM
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Then you have bigger fish to fry: Namely, your profile is not attractive. Fix looks, style, pics, and other profile info to be more attractive and appealing - so you get more matches.
/r/seduction06/03/26 02:32 PM
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Why don't you set your app to only filter for women younger than you? You can do this in the settings. You should have known this since you're nerdy ;-)
/r/seduction06/03/26 01:19 PM
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My personal list: Mykonos (I know it's an island. But it has a never-ending stream of party-loving tourists. It's also very gay, which means women lower their guard. The whole island is like a giant gay nightclub in beach paradise. With tons of single straight women). People bang on the beach every night it seems. Madrid - the ultimate party city in Spain. Lisbon. Relaxed but busy bar / nightlife scene. Maastricht. Dutch city with 365 bars. The city has HUGE university & library with many intern…
/r/seduction06/03/26 12:30 PM
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Polish women are usually anti-casual sex. It's very conservative. Even in more liberal cities like Krakow - it's a major hurdle. I know, I went to Krakow.
/r/seduction06/03/26 12:18 PM
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End the date.
/r/seduction06/03/26 12:02 PM
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Disagree. You can sit next to each other most venues. Even fancy places have a table for 4. That means you can sit next to her. The only times that might be tricky is going to a fancy restaurants at a very busy / popular time - as then they might seat you at a two-person table.
/r/seduction06/03/26 11:38 AM
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Personal questions or flirty questions: - Who is the most important person to you at the moment? - What is your relationship with your mom and dad? - What qualities are you attracted to? - Why did your last relationship end? What did you learn from that? - What do you look for in a long-term partner? - Do you enjoy spooning / cuddling / behing held while sleeping? Or is it annoying? - Are you a good kisser? - Do you have any unusual kinks or sexual preferences? Never sit across the table from a …
/r/seduction06/03/26 10:46 AM
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Be vulnerable. Open up bro! Share something personal. Get her to be more vulnerable by asking more personal / deeper questions. Flirt flirt flirt. Say something sexual... Make some sexual jokes, escalate physically. Goof around, tease her, have fun. It's about feelings - not about logic. Less talking, more doing. Create a vibe between you. Your goal is stirring up her feelings. Not figuring out what she does in her spare time after work (BORRRRINNGGG!!!)
/r/seduction06/03/26 07:48 AM
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Practice an attitude of gratitude towards your current partner. Remind yourself daily the things you like about her and appreciate her. Limit looking at other hot women- whether in porn, social media etc. Just reduce that consumption. Unfollow or mute past flings on socials so you're not constantly reminded of them. Remind yourself that the excitement for new women is temporary. If you sleep with them for a bit, that novelty wears off and you're right back to where you are - just with a differen…
/r/seduction06/03/26 07:44 AM
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