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“I am unhappy” when communicated from wife to husband in the context of divorce means “I am having sex with another man I like more than you and want to get rid of you so I can be with him.”
/r/Divorce_Men07/02/24 05:00 PM
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Psychiatrists are medical doctors not therapists.
/r/Divorce_Men07/02/24 04:56 PM
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Probably a combination of the therapist and your wife’s parental alienation of you. They go hand-in-hand.
/r/Divorce_Men07/02/24 04:53 PM
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Therapists don’t ingest data, they ingest the opposite of data: emotion, with expected results.
/r/Divorce_Men07/02/24 04:47 PM
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The thing most married men don’t understand (well there is a lot, too much to cover really) is that therapists act as force multipliers for women in their beefs with their husbands. They exist to tell her she’s right and to give her grievances the imprimatur of professional mental health experts. Most therapists are women and are thoroughly inculcated in modern victim mentality. You are the bad guy and she is right. Her wanting to see a therapist is a huge red flag that you are about to get serv…
/r/Divorce_Men07/02/24 04:34 PM
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Move to GA and lose Ms Moneybags because that relationship is doomed anyway. Son comes first, not high-earning cooze.
/r/Divorce_Men07/02/24 04:28 PM
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Your intuition will never lead you in the wrong direction? 😆
/r/Divorce_Men07/02/24 04:26 PM
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/r/Divorce_Men07/02/24 04:24 PM
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Her plan is probably to wait to get her Masters, lock down the new D and then take you for everything she can get.
/r/Divorce_Men07/02/24 04:17 PM
2

IQ ain’t got nothin’ to do with it.
/r/Divorce_Men06/02/24 02:43 PM
2

Never underestimate the power of solipsism.
/r/Divorce_Men06/02/24 02:42 PM
2

She needs a man. She had one before (the AP) but the branch broke. If she is attractive she will have another in a few months if she doesn’t already. Attractive women do not go without: someone is hitting that.
/r/Divorce_Men06/02/24 02:04 PM
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The sneaking around and almost getting caught is a big part of the danger and turn on. The bald-faced lying is the sadistic thrill and the ultimate shit test.
/r/Divorce_Men06/02/24 11:58 AM
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Healthy people ghost their unhealthy parents. Unhealthy people feel shame and guilt to maintain relationships with the very people who abused them.
/r/Divorce_Men05/02/24 01:54 PM
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Choreplay
/r/Divorce_Men05/02/24 01:41 PM
2

It’s always (and that word colloquially means the vast majority of the time) about another guy.
/r/Divorce_Men04/02/24 03:10 PM
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Textbook monkey branch
/r/Divorce_Men04/02/24 03:04 PM
3

P is not plentiful for the vast majority of men.
/r/Divorce_Men04/02/24 03:03 PM
3

She’s different You don’t know her I’ve never felt this way before
/r/Divorce_Men04/02/24 02:58 PM
3

Men are taught from a very early age that their job is to sacrifice themselves for others. It’s sick.
/r/Divorce_Men04/02/24 02:55 PM
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I dunno man. I’m dubious about “Mental health issues” in this context, even if they are “Diagnosed.” I’ve seen this used as a handy “Well that explains everything” tonic to cover up cheating and generally shitty behavior.
/r/Divorce_Men31/01/24 02:52 PM
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I think it is more disgust they feel than anything. They can’t believe they were with someone like you when they could have been with Mr. Wonderful this whole time. They are ashamed of you.
/r/Divorce_Men31/01/24 02:48 PM
0

“Humans”
/r/Divorce_Men31/01/24 02:43 PM
3

I don’t think anything is “wrong” with them. It’s more that we changed the culture dramatically due to The Pill and the sexual revolution and they are operating in their own best interest under this fairly new dynamic while men are still trying to play from an expired rule book.
/r/Divorce_Men31/01/24 02:42 PM
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Seeing the husband suffer reassures her that she is making the right choice. Men often act like pathetic children when they get “Blindsided” by the divorce news, begging and pleading and completely losing any sense of dignity or self-respect. And when they do, it is proof to her that you aren’t Man Enough and Jim from IT is a better choice for her to lay down with.
/r/Divorce_Men31/01/24 02:38 PM
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Call the police? WTF? And say what? “My ex wife called me and like, I don’t want her to and stuff so can you like call her and tell her to stop or whatever?”
/r/Divorce_Men31/01/24 02:34 PM
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Bad advice. Never go rooting through the trash once it has been taken to the curb.
/r/Divorce_Men31/01/24 02:32 PM
1

Ghosting is way better.
/r/Divorce_Men31/01/24 02:30 PM
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Her monkey branch broke and she put on weight and can’t find a new branch so she’s hoping the Ol’ Nice Guy will give her some attention. Just don’t.
/r/Divorce_Men31/01/24 02:28 PM
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It’s not cynical though—it’s real. Reality is neither cynical nor credulous. It just is. Men would be way better off being more cynical and less credulous (muh vows) in this context.
/r/Divorce_Men31/01/24 02:24 PM
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/r/Divorce_Men31/01/24 02:20 PM
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And of course those husbands dutifully did as they were told as any Good Man would.
/r/Divorce_Men31/01/24 02:13 PM
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For the most part, the in-laws only cared about you because their daughter cared about you. Once she doesn’t care about you, they don’t.
/r/Divorce_Men31/01/24 02:11 PM
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💯
/r/Divorce_Men31/01/24 02:04 PM
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This is men’s foolish romanticism. Women don’t suffer from this.
/r/Divorce_Men31/01/24 02:02 PM
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What’s wild to think about is how she may have been acting before and who she is now is her “Real self” as opposed to the other way around. Women settle at around 30, then 7 years later want to un-settle if they can get a higher quality man. If they can (and not all of them can) they often do.
/r/Divorce_Men31/01/24 02:00 PM
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Whoa. YOU married her. If you think you “Did nothing wrong” you are almost guaranteed to do this again.
/r/Divorce_Men31/01/24 01:56 PM
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There are usually answers but you might not want to know.
/r/Divorce_Men31/01/24 01:54 PM
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Women don’t leave marriages to be alone. They leave marriages because they found an upgraded man they like better and know that “vows” are nothing more than pie-in-the-sky BS abstractions that mean nothing. To men, vows mean everything and they assume women think the same way. Men are romantic fools. Women are pragmatic upgraders.
/r/Divorce_Men31/01/24 01:52 PM
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Category error. It’s not a good women vs bad women and you happened to get one of the bad ones dynamic.
/r/Divorce_Men31/01/24 01:44 PM
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Except that usually it is a live, actual man.
/r/Divorce_Men31/01/24 01:40 PM
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Was that a mod flex I just read?
/r/Divorce_Men28/01/24 03:44 PM
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Lots of men have died directly from divorce. Without kids, it’s hard to see that.
/r/Divorce_Men28/01/24 03:39 PM
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“Everything happens for a reason” is nothing but cope. Unfortunately, you believed in an expired rule book that has been out of date for several decades. It’s a good time to look at ALL of your beliefs about how you thought the world works.
/r/Divorce_Men28/01/24 02:25 PM
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Get every red cent.
/r/Divorce_Men28/01/24 02:16 PM
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She ended the marriage because she said she was “Tired?” Highly suss.
/r/Divorce_Men26/01/24 02:48 PM
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Often when the sex ends she is cheating now.
/r/Divorce_Men26/01/24 12:52 PM
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Some men can pull off the spinning plates thing but most men are lucky to get one date. Men have to be honest of their own SMV. If you are top 20%, you will do well. As you start getting closer to the median of the bell curve you will progressively do worse. If you are fat and or ugly you have zero business on the apps.
/r/Divorce_Men25/01/24 03:41 PM
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I don’t think it is necessarily a bunch of dick. It’s usually one specific dick that they like more than their husband’s.
/r/Divorce_Men25/01/24 03:32 PM
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Who cares if a cheating wife “respects” him? Pseudo wisdom there.
/r/Divorce_Men25/01/24 03:21 PM
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True. It isn’t ALWAYS cheating. 99/100 times it is new dick, but you are absolutely right it is not ALWAYS cheating. Glad someone is keeping it real for us.
/r/Divorce_Men25/01/24 03:17 PM
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💯
/r/Divorce_Men24/01/24 01:53 AM
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No woman wants to fuck Mr. Rogers.
/r/Divorce_Men23/01/24 03:55 PM
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They do, but from men who are hotter and more masculine than the schlubby Nice Guy they had to settle for to have a kid.
/r/Divorce_Men23/01/24 03:54 PM
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It’s BS and I’ll tell you why. All it does is make known women’s conscious wants and likes, not her Id, where her real desires live. What they say they want and what they actually want. Men are so literal: “Just ask her!”
/r/Divorce_Men23/01/24 03:52 PM
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Those days are gone and they ain’t comin’ back.
/r/Divorce_Men23/01/24 03:48 PM
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It is counterintuitive perhaps but this is correct. Let her think she got away with it, at least until all the legal matters are settled. Smart strategy really. Because no one will share your moral outrage—whatever she did is your fault somehow regardless.
/r/Divorce_Men23/01/24 03:44 PM
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Eff him. Why would you want to spend time with such a pathetic weasel?
/r/Divorce_Men23/01/24 02:03 PM
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Considering your age, is the status quo of her living in one house and you the other so bad? Yeah, she’s probably got a new dude.
/r/Divorce_Men21/01/24 01:57 PM
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In other words, let her win to atone for your sins. Hard no.
/r/Divorce_Men21/01/24 01:45 PM
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He’s not asking for pity.
/r/Divorce_Men21/01/24 12:59 PM
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Reality is not relative. And accepting it is not having a “Victim mentality.” Women don’t like short men. This is a fact of non-relative reality. We have a serious problem in this culture with toxic positivity. Freud said every man is great in his dreams. But when that man is awake, walking around in the world, chances are everything about him is average or even below average. This is the human condition.
/r/Divorce_Men18/01/24 05:26 PM
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He ain’t getting no 7s. He already settled for a 5 and it was a nightmare. There’s no glib solution to this.
/r/Divorce_Men18/01/24 04:20 PM
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Accept reality as it is and not as we want it to be. There is no “Do this and this and this and everything will be fine.”
/r/Divorce_Men18/01/24 04:18 PM
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This is the kind of reply dude’s mom would make. “It’s OK honey. It’s all in your head. If women don’t want you because of your height, that’s their loss. There are plenty of women who actually prefer short men. Just be yourself and you will be fine.” It’s a real issue.
/r/Divorce_Men18/01/24 02:41 PM
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Personality is primarily genetic. You can’t just will yourself into creating a cult of personality.
/r/Divorce_Men18/01/24 02:37 PM
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Pure copium. And not helpful.
/r/Divorce_Men18/01/24 02:33 PM
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Why would he want to reconcile?
/r/Divorce_Men18/01/24 02:32 PM
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Keep it real. Height is an issue. It helps nothing to sugar coat this fact.
/r/Divorce_Men18/01/24 02:31 PM
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They only come back when the monkey branch breaks. Often, they end up with the affair partner long term or even marry them. Women are often successful in monkey-branching, or as they see it—upgrading. I have two buddies who got upgraded. Both exes are still with the AP. So this “They always come back” is over stated.
/r/Divorce_Men17/01/24 07:28 PM
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And I think 99% of “successful” marriages are successful because the man is the one constantly giving in, constantly letting her win and have her way. And this is considered normal and healthy. The deeper truth is our society is deeply sick.
/r/Divorce_Men16/01/24 03:07 PM
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Cops are the shocktroops of Gynocentricism. They love to play the hero and will look for opportunities to do so at your expense.
/r/Divorce_Men16/01/24 02:50 PM
6

It’s not extremely common for “parents” to weaponize their children. It is extremely common for women to weaponize their children. Men are always sanding down the edges of reality to make it sound nicer.
/r/Divorce_Men16/01/24 02:35 PM
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“No alimony if she cheats.” Not easy to “prove” she cheated. Very expensive proposition. This is why most states went to no fault.
/r/Divorce_Men15/01/24 02:51 PM
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It’s not a competition. Forget about her and quit stalking her socials.
/r/Divorce_Men13/01/24 02:28 PM
2

To be fair and consistent then you should only refer to your ex wife as The Cheater.
/r/Divorce_Men13/01/24 02:27 PM
1

Is this phrase coming from some Christian counseling guru or something? The person watering the grass can’t force it to become green if it doesn’t want to.
/r/Divorce_Men12/01/24 04:16 PM
4

Forcing an exotic romantic trip with someone he is not attracted to is horrible advice. Is she going to lose 50 pounds on the flight? Ridiculous.
/r/Divorce_Men12/01/24 04:13 PM
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It’s not luck. The top 10-20% of men get all the swipes. Lucks got nothin’ to do with it. Honestly assessing your own SMV is a difficult experience.
/r/Divorce_Men09/01/24 01:45 PM
1

Being a Good Guy is a negative in this context.
/r/Divorce_Men09/01/24 01:43 PM
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Nah. When women say “I’m not happy” it means they are fucking another man they like more.
/r/Divorce_Men09/01/24 01:36 PM
4

Being 6’5” puts you in the top 1% for height. That alone will be enough to get a lot of female attention. So yah, YOU will find dating pretty easy if you are also in shape.
/r/Divorce_Men08/01/24 05:04 PM
5

She likes the bad boys eh?
/r/Divorce_Men07/01/24 04:27 PM
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Reality isn’t for everyone. Stay in your idealized romantic myth state. Get married again because “She’s different.” Have some kids with the new wife. Enjoy a year or two of the romantic myth until reality asserts itself again. Then maybe you will start to see.
/r/Divorce_Men03/01/24 02:37 PM
1

Once women start losing in divorce the laws will change.
/r/Divorce_Men02/01/24 07:15 PM
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No one is “Calling you a girl.” I’m pointing out that your points sound like you think and express yourself from a feminine mindset, which is not uncommon in our gynocentric culture. Awareness of this will be your first step.
/r/Divorce_Men31/12/23 12:35 PM
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For sure, if you are top 10-20% you should be fine because she probably can’t upgrade you. This is what normies call a successful marriage.
/r/Divorce_Men30/12/23 04:38 PM
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No one thinks it is axiomatic. Assigning that mentality is pure straw manning. There are other factors, obviously. This is a variation on the common “Not all women!” that we hear over and over and over. Yes, we know.
/r/Divorce_Men30/12/23 03:39 PM
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A lot of men say this because they think somehow THEIR wife is different. She’s not. This is biological. The worst combination is a high earning wife who is also highly attractive: she has endless options and will upgrade you quickly. But if the wife is higher earning but overweight she will keep you around only because she CAN’T upgrade you. She still won’t respect you though and the minute that weight comes off, her ring will too.
/r/Divorce_Men30/12/23 03:27 PM
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There’s a reason they are called SAHDs.
/r/Divorce_Men30/12/23 03:19 PM
1

Let’s not forget who gets affirmative action: women. They are the number one beneficiary of preferential hiring based on their sex. This is a fact of reality not an opinion.
/r/Divorce_Men30/12/23 03:13 PM
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You sound like a woman posting in a men’s forum. Are you a woman?
/r/Divorce_Men30/12/23 03:11 PM
3

Most men are too foolishly proud to do this but they definitely should.
/r/Divorce_Men30/12/23 03:01 PM
1

Good point, we shouldn’t just assume she is fooling around with another man. It could be a woman.
/r/Divorce_Men30/12/23 02:20 PM
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Let’s be clear: when the man makes less than the wife, it necessarily makes the woman more likely to leave. We don’t need to tap dance around this reality.
/r/Divorce_Men30/12/23 01:59 PM
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Be honest—you have another man you want to be with, right? But you don’t want to lose too much dough to your husband.
/r/Divorce_Men26/12/23 02:22 PM
2

Whether or not she is depressed doesn’t matter. It’s her behavior. If she gets a “Diagnosis” of depression she will act worse. She will now have the get out of jail free the doctor said so card to play and will use it at every opportunity for more control and manipulation of the OP. Get away from her.
/r/Divorce_Men26/12/23 02:04 PM
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Yeah, just fix the “Depression” with medication and everything will be fine!
/r/Divorce_Men26/12/23 01:59 PM
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SHE spread her legs for him. You’re acting like some stranger is the one who did wrong to you. You didn’t have any vows with him.
/r/Divorce_Men26/12/23 01:56 PM
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Everyone is giving you the “You go girl!” advice but keep in mind you WILL be seen as creepy if you try to interact with people in most social situations when you are in this demographic. You will be viewed as a threat, someone to avoid. No one is going to let you into their social circle as a divorced 53 year old man.
/r/Divorce_Men26/12/23 01:51 PM
1

Unless you try to talk to people…
/r/Divorce_Men26/12/23 01:44 PM
0

The minute she realizes that she is your priority is the minute she starts to lose interest, albeit subconsciously. You need to be your own priority. She falls somewhere lower in the list along with your hobbies, friends, job etc.
/r/Divorce_Men24/12/23 05:22 PM
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You had me up until “Prioritize her.”
/r/Divorce_Men24/12/23 04:18 PM
0

More men need to think seriously about this question: If everything you thought you knew about women and marriage was wrong (“I was blindsided!”)… What ELSE are you wrong about? Maybe all that Trad BS you thought was your value system is also BS?
/r/Divorce_Men24/12/23 04:15 PM
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If they can get another man, they often do. Not all of them can, but all of them want to. The ones that can are basically a ticking time bomb.
/r/Divorce_Men24/12/23 04:11 PM
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Mainly men
/r/Divorce_Men24/12/23 04:08 PM
2

That magical feeling is actually a warning sign. Limerence is a symptom of unprocessed childhood trauma.
/r/Divorce_Men23/12/23 12:50 PM
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What is a lawyer going to do? Parental alienation is almost impossible to prove.
/r/Divorce_Men21/12/23 03:20 PM
2

This time probably wasn’t her first. It was only the first time you caught her.
/r/Divorce_Men17/12/23 04:59 PM
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Having a realistic understanding of women’s nature, which 90% of men do not have, is not “hate” but it is often characterized as such.
/r/Divorce_Men17/12/23 04:29 PM
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/r/Divorce_Men17/12/23 04:22 PM
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“No idea if anything happened…” You gotta be kidding me.
/r/Divorce_Men14/12/23 02:33 PM
2

Attractive women have sex. Important detail.
/r/Divorce_Men12/12/23 01:40 PM
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A woman had to write this. What utter conventional normie nonsense.
/r/Divorce_Men12/12/23 01:38 PM
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Jordan Peterson is not RP by any stretch. He’s a Tradcon Gynocentricist who can’t handle that his daughter flew half way around the world to bang Tate.
/r/Divorce_Men12/12/23 01:36 PM
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This is the advice a woman would give. It’s the old “Have you tried TALKING to her?” routine. She’s not going to provide any insight on what her problem is. In fact, there’s a damn good chance she will list a series of things YOU are doing wrong, which will be bullshit. You will then immediately change in all the ways she says you have to so she feels like fucking more. It won’t change anything. Is she fucking someone else? If she is hot, someone is hitting that.
/r/Divorce_Men12/12/23 12:57 PM
3

That completely changes what the word means to the point of meaninglessness.
/r/Divorce_Men08/12/23 03:12 PM
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The law doesn’t care about “debauchery” whatever you mean by that incredibly dated term.
/r/Divorce_Men08/12/23 03:09 PM
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The “forgiveness” should be for yourself. For picking her, of all people, to marry. For believing in bullshit romantic fantasies about “Soul mates” etc. that expired decades ago. For being a doormat and letting her control you.
/r/Divorce_Men08/12/23 03:08 PM
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💯 The branch she monkeyed to either broke or may break and she needs a backup. Women can’t stand to be alone.
/r/Divorce_Men07/12/23 01:03 PM
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You’re the replacement for the branch that broke.
/r/Divorce_Men07/12/23 12:56 PM
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She wasn’t divorced when he started banging her. Why do so many men fall for this BS? Women don’t end marriages in the hopes they might find someone—they have another guy already all lined up before they divorce. Monkey branching 101, yet most men can’t or won’t understand this reality.
/r/Divorce_Men07/12/23 12:55 PM
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She was obviously fucking this guy while she was still married to you. Don’t shake that prick’s hand.
/r/Divorce_Men07/12/23 12:53 PM
3

It is 100% real and there is even a name for it: hybristophilia. Hybristophilia is a paraphilia involving sexual interest in and attraction to those who commit crimes.
/r/Divorce_Men06/12/23 02:25 PM
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She craves male attention and validation and her thirst will never be slaked unless she agrees to serious personal counseling. The combination of hot and needy is a recipe for disaster with women.
/r/Divorce_Men06/12/23 02:22 PM
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Many people stay together because they have no other options. And we celebrate this as some kind of romantic victory.
/r/Divorce_Men06/12/23 02:15 PM
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It only works if the woman can actually get a new man she likes better. Lots of women can’t upgrade because they aren’t hot enough to swing to an open branch. It’s funny because we call those marriages “Happy.” She wants to cheat on her boring Nice Guy husband but doesn’t have the body to get male attention so she can’t. Thin and pretty women have nothing but opportunities because most men want to be with them. A wife’s hotness, not her character, often determines if she will cheat.
/r/Divorce_Men06/12/23 02:11 PM
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I’d phrase it as “It’s better to destroy your family if you want to be with a man you like better than your current husband.” That gets to the reality of it.
/r/Divorce_Men06/12/23 02:05 PM
1

What has he done for you?
/r/Divorce_Men06/12/23 02:00 PM
1

I get this approach but saying nothing is a tacit admission of guilt to most normies—especially women, who set the tone that men follow in these situations. So she goes around trashing you, causing real damage and you “Take the high road” and say nothing is a victory for her. She’s getting all her licks in and you’re turning the other cheek and asking for more. To most people that means what she is saying is correct and that you agree with it.
/r/Divorce_Men06/12/23 01:58 PM
2

That and five bucks will get you a cup of coffee.
/r/Divorce_Men06/12/23 12:54 PM
2

Too many details. Don’t let her know what you are thinking. Never explain yourself like this. Just “No” is the response.
/r/Divorce_Men05/12/23 12:34 PM
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This is soothing cope. 70% divorces are initiated by cheating women. How is that even close to being 50/50?
/r/Divorce_Men05/12/23 12:27 PM
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She’s feeling more confident in how strong the new branch is that she monkeyed to and thinks it will support her weight. This is a good time to negotiate while she is in the affair haze and just wants to be rid of you so she can be with the New Guy.
/r/Divorce_Men04/12/23 03:10 PM
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The other dude didn’t work out so she’s going back to the Nice Guy she married. But it will only be a matter of time until she gets bored again and seeks out another guy from work to bang.
/r/Divorce_Men04/12/23 02:58 PM
4

Second rule as a man: never be a SAHD.
/r/Divorce_Men04/12/23 12:22 PM
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Stupidity is not the issue. They are gynocentric. They will do whatever it takes to advantage women in divorce cases at men’s expense. I’d almost rather have a female judge than some dork who married his only girlfriend at 22 and is utterly clueless about women’s nature.
/r/Divorce_Men03/12/23 12:11 PM
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Great post. She already has a new guy she is banging, most likely from work. Your best move here is rope a dope: fight like hell but make her think all you care about is the kids and that you want to continue the dynamic of her controlling you.
/r/Divorce_Men03/12/23 12:04 PM
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This is not the time for foolish male pride. Get every red cent you can. And never be a SAHD again. Women don’t respect SAHDs.
/r/Divorce_Men03/12/23 11:52 AM
2

More men need the courage to say fuck your parents. You don’t owe them anything.
/r/Divorce_Men02/12/23 01:56 PM
1

It’s not the talking you should worry about.
/r/Divorce_Men02/12/23 01:29 PM
1

Stop thinking about the legal and financial piece for a second. Think about your personal freedom, which you give up when you cohabitate. When you agree to live with a woman, you agree to let her control your time. All of your time. You think you’re going to do what YOU want on a random Saturday?
/r/Divorce_Men02/12/23 01:28 PM
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Btw, you need to look into Limerence and it’s basis in unresolved childhood trauma. Your feelings for her are not healthy.
/r/Divorce_Men01/12/23 03:31 PM
1

It’s true.
/r/Divorce_Men01/12/23 03:26 PM
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Cohabitation gives them a degree of leverage too. A pretty big degree. Don’t cohabitate.
/r/Divorce_Men01/12/23 03:26 PM
3

It’s funny because if she’s hot, what you wrote sarcastically is actually true. Men will line up around the block to marry a hot woman regardless of her personality. Men, as we know, are idiots in this regard.
/r/Divorce_Men01/12/23 03:25 PM
-1

No cohabitation! Do not fall for this trap. You are essentially married when you live with a woman as far as your personal freedom goes. Every minute of every day will have to be accounted for to her the minute she moves in. Want to have a beer with a buddy after work? Gotta call and make sure she grants permission! It’s slavery. Value yourself and your independence.
/r/Divorce_Men01/12/23 03:23 PM
3

Judges are bred from the gynocentric culture we live in. Whether they are conservative Christians or woke leftists they agree that women are to be advantaged in every way at the direct detriment of disposable men. Both sides fully agree on this mainly unstated assumption about reality. It will never change.
/r/Divorce_Men01/12/23 03:15 PM
4

Dangerous game.
/r/Divorce_Men01/12/23 03:10 PM
2

“People” get bored. That’s why people initiate 70% of divorces. Men are so scared to speak the truth of the situation—even after it has fucked them hard! Now THAT is good training. Thank you ma’am, may I have another?
/r/Divorce_Men01/12/23 03:09 PM
3

You would still give up your freedom and let a woman run you as long as it wasn’t a legal ceremony? The modern dynamic of marriage is men giving up everything to let a woman control them. This has nothing to do with the legal aspects, which are their own but separate nightmare.
/r/Divorce_Men01/12/23 03:05 PM
5

This comment really gets to the heart of men’s foolish romantic fantasies of marriage that end up hurting them so badly seven years in. Women are much more pragmatic. They take their best available option at the time and are always looking for an upgrade if they are hot enough to have options. Married women with better options usually take them, leaving a bewildered fool in the dust.
/r/Divorce_Men01/12/23 03:01 PM
3

Men are disposable in the eyes of society—courts just reflect that.
/r/Divorce_Men01/12/23 02:58 PM
6

Friends shouldn’t let friends get married. But men think they’ve got it all figured out and would never listen.
/r/Divorce_Men01/12/23 02:56 PM
11

In-laws are force multipliers for personality-disordered women. Especially the Monster In Law. Add the church and a feminist therapist into the mix and you are severely out-gunned.
/r/Divorce_Men01/12/23 02:54 PM
13

Just for the record: marrying a single woman with a child and taking that kid as yours is plain stupid and foolish, not a good deed. That kid will only have a relationship with you if the mom does.
/r/Divorce_Men01/12/23 02:51 PM
1

The gynocentric social order is not a left/right dynamic. Both sides agree that women should be favored in every way and the courts are one manifestation of that.
/r/Divorce_Men30/11/23 11:03 PM
1

100% of women want the top 20% of men.
/r/Divorce_Men30/11/23 02:11 PM
2

The real harsh reality is… SHE’S FUCKING ANOTHER GUY!
/r/Divorce_Men30/11/23 02:02 PM
1

Forget the laws, why would a man want to cohabitate and give up his freedom, his space, the control of every second of his life? Why do men want to be controlled? Because that’s what cohabitation is: letting her control your life.
/r/Divorce_Men30/11/23 01:56 PM
1

Of course she is cheating! The naïveté of most men never ceases to amaze.
/r/Divorce_Men30/11/23 01:51 PM
1

Like your ex, Jesus doesn’t care. If ever there was a time to put an end to believing in fantasies it is now. If you were that wrong about your wife, what else do you believe that is absolute BS?
/r/Divorce_Men30/11/23 01:48 PM
2

Without men pedalstalizing women this would never happen. Men are naive romantic fools.
/r/Divorce_Men30/11/23 01:41 PM
2

You were a mark and the house always wins.
/r/Divorce_Men30/11/23 01:40 PM
1

It won’t. All that will happen is more money to lawyers and more drawn-out legal battles.
/r/Divorce_Men30/11/23 01:39 PM
1

Yeah! THAT will stop hypergamy! I mean she signed a piece of paper!
/r/Divorce_Men30/11/23 01:35 PM
0

There is no way on earth someone isn’t hitting that. She has a new man.
/r/Divorce_Men28/11/23 02:46 PM
3

It’s pretty much over at 35. Of course it is possible to get pregnant and have a kid after 35 but very difficult. 30 is the age when women start to freak out about not having a kid yet. Sticking it in a 30 year old and leaving birf control up to her is playing Russian roulette.
/r/Divorce_Men27/11/23 10:24 PM
1

True. But a 30 year old childless woman is almost at the end of her fertility window and she will do anything for a kid.
/r/Divorce_Men27/11/23 10:07 PM
5

No one asked you.
/r/Divorce_Men27/11/23 03:36 PM
3

Limerence is very dangerous. It is often a sign of childhood trauma. This shit can kill you.
/r/Divorce_Men27/11/23 03:34 PM
3

Men continue to make the same mistake because they think the problem was HER and not IT (marriage). Category error.
/r/Divorce_Men27/11/23 03:30 PM
2

Bit this time you are smarter and you know how dynamic her feelings and behavior can be. She’s on her best behavior now while the hooks are being set.
/r/Divorce_Men27/11/23 03:29 PM
4

It’s easy for a woman to send The Ambassador instead of her real self in the first 6-12 months. Just keep the relationship where it is—the minute you have her move in everything changes. The Ambassador gets dismissed at that point because she is not needed and you’ll see the real her.
/r/Divorce_Men27/11/23 03:27 PM
1

They either have kids or want kids. Most women fall into one or the other. If you have to choose, I’d prefer a woman with kids as opposed to one who wants them because I don’t want the oldest trick in the book played on me.
/r/Divorce_Men27/11/23 03:15 PM
3

Problem with this age is they usually have baby rabies, whether they know or admit it or not. Biology is telling them to have a kid and you could easily be on the hook for it.
/r/Divorce_Men27/11/23 03:13 PM
4

Many married men stop acting masculine during the marriage. They call their wife their “Best friend.” They get weak and needy and it turns women off. They let her control them. Then they are “Blindsided.”
/r/Divorce_Men25/11/23 04:34 PM
6

Karma is nothing but cope. It doesn’t exist. There isn’t some all-knowing force that corrects wrongs in the world and delivers payback to those who deserve it.
/r/Divorce_Men25/11/23 03:01 PM
6

Five grand with no kids!!!!! Holy shit.
/r/Divorce_Men25/11/23 02:59 PM
5

Divorced men have a very hard time accepting that sometimes, the guy she cheated with was an upgrade for her and she is happier now with who she sees as a superior man. I have two buddies who were “Blindsided” by their cheating wives. Both wives married the affair partner and are still married to them almost a decade later.
/r/Divorce_Men25/11/23 02:55 PM
1

Ask all you want. Just don’t be surprised when you are ostracized.
/r/Divorce_Men22/11/23 08:07 PM
1

Any approach will be met with suspicion.
/r/Divorce_Men22/11/23 07:34 PM
3

The problem with this approach is women are so paranoid now that any attempt to make connection with these moms will be seen as “Hitting on them.” You will be labeled “creepy” and shunned.
/r/Divorce_Men22/11/23 02:40 PM
6

This is life in a gynocentric social order.
/r/Divorce_Men22/11/23 02:37 PM
5

The fathers take their marching orders from their wives so you will get the same results.
/r/Divorce_Men22/11/23 02:36 PM
3

A single man is a threat to most normie married couples now. It has less to do with you doing anything to the kids as it does to you doing something with someone’s wife. Why would they risk having a needy man around?
/r/Divorce_Men22/11/23 02:36 PM
1

Hate to say it but it wasn’t an “Emotional affair.” Accept and understand that. She truth-trickled you into accepting this explanation. She doesn’t want you in her bed because someone else has take your place there and she feels like she’s cheating on HIM.
/r/Divorce_Men22/11/23 02:32 PM
0

No. They do it for a specific man. Not for a general goal—that is way too risky. There is a specific man they have already been fucking that they prefer over their husband. The monkey doesn’t let go of the old branch until they have a firm grip on the new branch.
/r/Divorce_Men21/11/23 06:55 PM
2

Women don’t leave long term marriages unless they have another man already lined up that they have been with for some time now. Monkey Branching.
/r/Divorce_Men21/11/23 03:27 PM
6

The unconscionable contract
/r/Divorce_Men18/11/23 10:08 AM
2

“People”
/r/Divorce_Men18/11/23 10:06 AM
5

La petite mort
/r/Divorce_Men18/11/23 10:04 AM
1

Maybe?
/r/Divorce_Men17/11/23 08:17 AM
13

She was trying to displace her guilt from fucking another guy.
/r/Divorce_Men17/11/23 08:13 AM
17

No one ever tells men this truth. And that is no accident.
/r/Divorce_Men16/11/23 09:13 AM
2

“She’s different”
/r/Divorce_Men13/11/23 05:08 PM
42

Because when it comes to women most men are clueless, romantic fools. Even after a nasty divorce they think “This one, this one will be different!”
/r/Divorce_Men13/11/23 07:36 AM
3

This sounds all therapeutic and wise but cheating is a direct rejection of the person being cheated on. It is as personal as it gets. They are choosing someone else at your expense because they like that person better. Let’s not try to cope the reality of it away.
/r/Divorce_Men13/11/23 07:32 AM
2

What’s the point? So she can be with the new guy she likes better. This is how marriage works now.
/r/Divorce_Men13/11/23 07:20 AM
4

Paul Elam. Rian Stone is a 90 IQ retred. He can’t stop smirking with those phony teeth.
/r/Divorce_Men12/11/23 04:13 PM
3

“Emotional affairs” are bullshit. Adults fuck. It’s a way of explaining away the affair.
/r/Divorce_Men11/11/23 12:25 PM
1

That’s old-fashioned duty, not love.
/r/Divorce_Men10/11/23 04:18 PM
5

My experience of 55 years is men primarily care about two things (not counting kids here) pussy/the approval of women and money. That’s about it. Everything they do revolves around these two things. Male friendship means nothing to them unless they can benefit monetarily or as part of a couple’s friendship to please the wife.
/r/Divorce_Men10/11/23 03:09 PM
1

This is a men’s space. Please leave.
/r/Divorce_Men10/11/23 01:45 PM
2

The thing most men don’t understand (because they lack experience) is this chemical reaction in your brain you call “love” is nothing more than an ancient process to bind you to a mate for procreation. If you meet and get close to an attractive woman you can easily “fall in love” with her and that could happen thousands of times. There is no One Special Person. She was there at the right time and place and the chemicals rushed to your brain. That’s it.
/r/Divorce_Men10/11/23 01:42 PM
2

That way of thinking is exactly why men get divorced again. It’s not her!
/r/Divorce_Men10/11/23 01:33 PM
3

63% of second marriages fail. But hey, someone has to win at the casino too so you never know! A .370 batting average is good in baseball but not so great for marriage.
/r/Divorce_Men10/11/23 01:31 PM
2

This has to be a joke.
/r/Divorce_Men10/11/23 01:29 PM
3

This is a category error. It’s not the decision on WHO to marry that was wrong. It’s the decision to marry at all. Marrying for men is a moronic move, regardless of WHO. How much more evidence needs to be presented before this fact of reality is understood by men?
/r/Divorce_Men10/11/23 01:26 PM
3

The biggest reason a senior marriage would “work” is she has no other options. An attractive 35 year old woman has a TON of options. A 60 year old woman has virtually none. So you can count on her fidelity at least 🤣
/r/Divorce_Men10/11/23 01:16 PM
2

It has plenty of “societal” value. But that is an abstraction that you shouldn’t sacrifice your independence and integrity for.
/r/Divorce_Men10/11/23 01:10 PM
5

Because she wants it and she’s convinced him.
/r/Divorce_Men10/11/23 01:09 PM
7

Men deeply need the approval of women. Approval they never got from their mothers. This is the main theme of the Sopranos.
/r/Divorce_Men10/11/23 01:08 PM
2

Fascinating how many answers here revolve around the priority of not losing money as opposed to not having your heart ripped out and the emotional damage. Men think about money before their personal suffering.
/r/Divorce_Men10/11/23 01:05 PM
3

But I bet he could sling that D!
/r/Divorce_Men09/11/23 12:42 PM
4

“Vows” are as meaningless as the white dress the bride who has had 15 sexual partners is wearing. The whole thing is meaningless twaddle.
/r/Divorce_Men09/11/23 12:41 PM
5

Marriage used to be a holy union. Decades ago. Those days are over though and they are never coming back. It ain’t 1960.
/r/Divorce_Men09/11/23 12:37 PM
7

Romantic love is a myth
/r/Divorce_Men08/11/23 09:42 AM
3

It makes perfect sense when you understand Gynocentricism
/r/Divorce_Men08/11/23 09:41 AM
0

What makes her a “Good person?” It sounds like you really want to believe that. Chances are very good she was seeing someone else.
/r/Divorce_Men07/11/23 11:50 AM
6

He’s probably not new.
/r/Divorce_Men07/11/23 11:44 AM
3

Paragraphs FFS!
/r/Divorce_Men07/11/23 11:43 AM
28

Are you sure this “Going to see my parents” wasn’t just time for her to see her new man? The most common divorce story is woman cheats, then initiates divorce.
/r/Divorce_Men07/11/23 11:42 AM
2

“Karma” = kopa
/r/Divorce_Men06/11/23 12:52 PM
2

But you’re still doing it!
/r/Divorce_Men06/11/23 12:36 PM
3

Because most men are romantic fools.
/r/Divorce_Men06/11/23 12:32 PM
6

“Walk away wife” means a wife who found a man she wants to fuck more than her boring, domesticated, controlled ninny of a husband.
/r/Divorce_Men06/11/23 12:31 PM
3

Women don’t want Nice Guys, even when they say they do.
/r/Divorce_Men06/11/23 12:29 PM
2

He experienced parental alienation not in-group preference.
/r/Divorce_Men06/11/23 12:26 PM
4

Chasing the dragon
/r/Divorce_Men06/11/23 12:17 PM
1

The goal is not to reach a comfortable place mentally. Is it becoming more clear to you now?
/r/Divorce_Men05/11/23 12:51 PM
1

There is a huge shortage of women for the vast majority of men. Especially attractive women.
/r/Divorce_Men05/11/23 12:49 PM
1

B is the.biggest one but most men can’t deal with it.
/r/Divorce_Men05/11/23 12:45 PM
4

Male friendship died with the rise and eventual domination of the gynocracy. Married men are accessories to their wives.
/r/Divorce_Men04/11/23 01:30 PM
3

Make her get a good corporate accounting job. Then proceed with divorce. Will save you tons of dough.
/r/Divorce_Men04/11/23 01:26 PM
1

A shit ton of men have died because of divorce.
/r/Divorce_Men04/11/23 01:23 PM
1

If a woman is thin and pretty someone is fucking her. That is a take-it-to-the-bank fact. Attractive women simply don’t go without because they have nothing but options.
/r/Divorce_Men04/11/23 01:21 PM
4

No, you can’t give a female perspective. This is a men’s space.
/r/Divorce_Men04/11/23 01:17 PM
1

The most important thing you should be addressing in therapy is your Family Of Origin issues because they are directly tied to picking your wife.
/r/Divorce_Men04/11/23 01:15 PM
2

The goal is not comfort. The goal is truth. If the truth is uncomfortable I’ll live with it. Comfort, in this context, is for women and children. Men should search for and embrace truth in all of its ugliness because it is the most highly distilled form of reality. It’s not for the faint of heart though or if you can’t let go of hidebound hangups that you were raised with. Nothing should be off limits.
/r/Divorce_Men04/11/23 01:13 PM
3

Or maybe she won’t. And that is fine!
/r/Divorce_Men03/11/23 12:23 PM
2

What the hell is “passion” anyhow? Romantic love is a myth. Check out Paul Elam’s video Chasing The Dragon on YT.
/r/Divorce_Men02/11/23 11:38 AM
0

What does that even mean? The way women’s brains work is very different than men’s. Most of the problems men encounter in marriage are because they don’t understand this fundamental fact.
/r/Divorce_Men02/11/23 11:32 AM
2

What’s interesting about the in-law situation is how inherently phony it is since it is entirely based on your relationship with THEIR daughter. That is the ONLY reason they give two shits about you—because of HER. If she removes herself from you, you are dead to them.
/r/Divorce_Men02/11/23 11:22 AM
10

The best husband ever thing was just a way for her to brag about herself, not compliment you.
/r/Divorce_Men02/11/23 11:08 AM
11

I get the whole “High road” approach and agree with not bad-mouthing in front of the kids… But you have to get the truth out. She will be destroying your character to all and sundry while the Nice Guy says nothing and gets destroyed. Being the Nice Guy is what gets men into the situation in the first place, so why keep it going after divorce?
/r/Divorce_Men02/11/23 11:00 AM
2

That’s why marriage is the unconscionable contract
/r/Divorce_Men31/10/23 11:15 AM
3

They split it right down the middle And gave her the bigger half
/r/Divorce_Men31/10/23 11:14 AM
3

Another thing about young women… They are drugs. Extremely powerful drugs. As addictive as oxy, heroin, crack…you name it. And I mean that literally, not figuratively. When you are around a nubile young woman and are fucking her, chemicals are flooding your brain in the same biological way shooting a big load of smack into a fresh vein. Everyone who starts taking hard drugs thinks they can handle it—same with older guys with young women. Your mindset means nothing in the face of this chemical on…
/r/Divorce_Men31/10/23 10:51 AM
3

An old dude in a hooker shop is more like it.
/r/Divorce_Men31/10/23 10:43 AM
5

A lot of men WILL budge when a beautiful young woman runs her considerable game on an older man, even one who was adamant about not wanting kids, etc. Playing with fire.
/r/Divorce_Men31/10/23 10:40 AM
11

They want your resources and potential babies from you. Don’t flatter yourself old man! 😂
/r/Divorce_Men31/10/23 10:38 AM
3

Just don’t get into a situation where you aren’t protecting yourself because “She said she was on the pill.” We all know that straight nutting is 1000x better than a condom but she wants that seed, even if she says she doesn’t and even if you have expressly stated you “Don’t want kids.” Her biology is her #1 priority.
/r/Divorce_Men31/10/23 10:36 AM
3

Young women are a very sharp double-edged sword. Obviously they look good and all that entails (pun) but a woman of child bearing age who doesn’t have a kid usually wants one and will find a way to make that happen regardless of your feelings on the matter. In this regard they are very dangerous and have the ability to seriously fuck up the life of an older dude.
/r/Divorce_Men31/10/23 10:32 AM
1

They won’t say anything out of politeness, but nobody wants to golf with a dude who brings their kid along. Kids are annoying to everyone on the golf course.
/r/Divorce_Men31/10/23 10:27 AM
2

It goes back to childhood trauma from having a shitty mother.
/r/Divorce_Men31/10/23 10:21 AM
7

You’re telling him to make changes so women will like him more. He should make changes so he likes himself more.
/r/Divorce_Men31/10/23 10:10 AM
2

And you did that to impress and try to please her. It’s not the opposite it’s the same thing.
/r/Divorce_Men30/10/23 10:55 AM
1

Understand Gynocentricism.
/r/Divorce_Men30/10/23 10:48 AM
1

Enemy?
/r/Divorce_Men25/10/23 03:54 AM
1

5’9” would put her in the 95th percentile for women’s height—a rare bird indeed. Model tall. Damn.
/r/Divorce_Men24/10/23 04:53 PM
1

Agree. Dude could easily be facing jail if the judge decides he should be able to get another high level exec job. Do not file, it will ruin your life! Sucks, but cheaper to keep her.
/r/Divorce_Men24/10/23 03:39 PM
1

If you don’t think you picked her (even subconsciously) you will pick poorly again. It’s you doing the choosing.
/r/Divorce_Men24/10/23 03:30 PM
1

For most men, they married the hottest chick they could get and didn’t really care about personality disorders or other practical considerations.
/r/Divorce_Men24/10/23 03:23 PM
2

Most therapists are women trained in feminist ideology and will act as a force multiplier with your wife to blame you.
/r/Divorce_Men24/10/23 03:16 PM
6

The key is understanding why you chose her, of all people to marry and make kids with. This will require deep, painful therapy but it is essential to understanding and finally healing.
/r/Divorce_Men24/10/23 03:05 PM
6

NPD is a personality disorder, so it’s nonsense to say there can be a “Diagnosis” of a flaw in someone’s personality. The usual scenario is a personality-disordered woman (the what disorder doesn’t matter that much) who couples with a co-dependent, doormat man. Men who get “Blindsided” by their wife wanting a divorce are usually co-dependents who have been focusing their entire lives on the personality disordered woman due to unresolved Family Of Origin issues.
/r/Divorce_Men24/10/23 03:00 PM
2

Deep Family Of Origin work, specifically regarding your mother is needed for healing. Look up Tara Palmatier—shrink for men.com Her videos on YT are priceless. Paul Elam is another to check out.
/r/Divorce_Men24/10/23 02:56 PM
2

Because you know the truth about what marriage holds for men. Or should know the truth.
/r/Divorce_Men24/10/23 01:49 PM
2

Why? Why would you be happy for a man making an obviously foolish decision?
/r/Divorce_Men24/10/23 01:18 PM
3

This is not imposing your favorite flavor of ice cream on someone. The hard facts of reality are marriage is shit for men. For all men. Every marriage.
/r/Divorce_Men24/10/23 01:17 PM
0

“People”
/r/Divorce_Men24/10/23 01:15 PM
5

Men won’t listen. They think they have it all figured out and “You don’t know her!” Men use emotional reasoning to rationalize their decision to marry with corresponding effects.
/r/Divorce_Men24/10/23 01:14 PM
6

How could you not be against marriage? Men who get married now are morons, hard stop. I had a buddy, 50, divorced, tell me a few weeks ago he got married again and he was waiting for congratulations. I said nothing because the level of foolishness it takes to get married twice now is too staggering to comprehend.
/r/Divorce_Men24/10/23 01:12 PM
4

She found the new guy already. That’s how this works.
/r/Divorce_Men18/10/23 10:53 AM
1

Yeah, wear deodorant! It’s the secret to getting laid. And wipe your ass after shitting! Great insights here guys!
/r/Divorce_Men19/09/23 03:58 AM
1

Great advice—don’t look homeless bro!
/r/Divorce_Men19/09/23 03:55 AM
1

Self-admitted. In practicality the number is probably closer to 90.
/r/MensRights16/09/23 04:46 AM
7

It’s not weird but it’s dumb. Don’t just hand it over without significant concessions on her part. Men are so quick to acquiesce.
/r/Divorce_Men14/09/23 03:08 AM
2

Don’t get married
/r/MensRights14/09/23 03:05 AM
-1

You probably know less about the reality of their situation than I do, but it’s understandable to create a romantic myth about your parents. Maybe someday that can be you! There is hope!
/r/Divorce_Men13/09/23 09:38 PM
-12

Dubious. More likely they were both stuck and didn’t have other options so they stayed together out of necessity. Nothing romantic about it.
/r/Divorce_Men13/09/23 06:50 PM
5

Hard sperg answer right there.
/r/TheRedPill13/09/23 06:47 PM
2

And how do you determine who they are?
/r/MensRights13/09/23 06:46 PM
7

Most men have very limited options. Why do you think otherwise?
/r/TheRedPill13/09/23 12:07 PM
78

The vast majority of women are feminists, so hard to avoid.
/r/MensRights13/09/23 11:58 AM
7

He shouldn’t be “Finding other fish” until he goes into therapy to figure out why HE made the choices he made. Otherwise this will happen again.
/r/Divorce_Men12/09/23 02:08 PM
1

Yeah, just find a unicorn. Problem solved.
/r/MensRights12/09/23 01:51 PM
1

Which only means they are 100% on board with Gynocentricism. Tradcons want men in chains every bit as much as “Feminists.”
/r/Divorce_Men11/09/23 12:05 PM
5

The prevalence of abuse IS higher among step than bio dads.
/r/Divorce_Men11/09/23 12:04 PM
5

“My duties” Like a soldier. I’m trying to imagine a woman ever saying something like this.
/r/Divorce_Men10/09/23 02:16 PM
2

Gynocentricism is the default on both the left AND the right. The right wants men in chains as well. The only way the alimony situation will change is if too many women start having to pay men, then there will be changes.
/r/Divorce_Men08/09/23 11:21 AM
4

You find Gynocentricism surprising? It’s the default cultural position.
/r/Divorce_Men08/09/23 11:18 AM
0

Read slower, you may understand more.
/r/Divorce_Men07/09/23 02:02 AM
0

Women
/r/Divorce_Men07/09/23 02:01 AM
1

Microchimerism
/r/Divorce_Men07/09/23 02:00 AM
1

IF they are attractive. It pretty much ends late 40’s. But I have seen and know a ton of 45ish women that are damn sexy and can still fuck all night long with gusto.
/r/Divorce_Men07/09/23 01:39 AM
4

Shout out to the coach gang
/r/Divorce_Men07/09/23 01:34 AM
1

It’s less the number (although obviously that matters) than the quality of the experience for her. The alpha widow concept is real.
/r/Divorce_Men07/09/23 01:33 AM
-1

Absurd
/r/Divorce_Men07/09/23 01:32 AM
11

😆 She didn’t “Forget.” She’s letting you know her baseline.
/r/Divorce_Men06/09/23 07:13 PM
10

I like this a lot.
/r/Divorce_Men06/09/23 06:54 PM
4

Chances are very good one of those dozens of guys really imprinted his masculinity on her and she is an alpha widow. You don’t measure up, so to speak and after she thinks she has you locked in this will be evident.
/r/Divorce_Men06/09/23 06:52 PM
0

This prick wrote a book called “How to get men to do more housework.” WTF?
/r/Divorce_Men06/09/23 02:56 PM
1

Most people have childhood trauma. 99% are unaware that they do.
/r/Divorce_Men06/09/23 02:55 PM
3

It’s highly possible BOTH are shit. Men have a hard time admitting their parents were assholes.
/r/Divorce_Men06/09/23 02:51 PM
6

What you are describing is what The Sopranos is actually about: a man’s struggles with life and relationships because of his sick and controlling mother that he never dealt with.
/r/Divorce_Men06/09/23 02:50 PM
0

You’re totally wrong about this “Just get a haircut!” type of advice for men who are trying to date. The vast majority of men are invisible to women and that means average men are invisible to average women. Combing their hair and getting a new pair of Dockers at JCP isn’t going to change that.
/r/Divorce_Men05/09/23 06:47 PM
1

Women are only open to cold approaches from attractive men. By definition most men don’t fall into this category. Therefore, cold approaches are probably not going to work. This isn’t a sock hop.
/r/Divorce_Men05/09/23 05:13 PM
1

Your genetics determine if you are in the top 5%, not if you wear fucking deodorant!
/r/Divorce_Men05/09/23 05:10 PM
4

Well, Rollo says you should “Spin plates” which means dating several women at the same time, but this is almost impossible, save for very high SMV men. Serial monogamy is a better option but never live together (slavery) or get married (should go without saying).
/r/Divorce_Men05/09/23 01:55 PM
2

Just don’t think “This here one is different!” and get married again. In dating you only meet The Ambassador—she won’t show you who she really is until you commit. So serial monogamy is your best course of action.
/r/Divorce_Men05/09/23 01:50 PM
7

It depends on how willing you are to conform. How much of your individuality do you want to give up? What do you have to sacrifice to be a Normie that will be acceptable to the group? What is your integrity worth? Most men will give up their integrity to be popular and get laid. But let’s emulate THEM!
/r/TheRedPill04/09/23 04:21 PM
4

This shows the transactional nature of male friendship. What Can You Do For Me? Is the pertinent question.
/r/TheRedPill04/09/23 04:18 PM
1

Very, very common scenario.
/r/Divorce_Men04/09/23 11:32 AM
1

If she is thin and pretty SOMEONE is hitting that. If she is a typical American woman, then different story.
/r/Divorce_Men04/09/23 11:30 AM
-1

Which is why she lost attraction to him. Choreplay has the exact opposite reaction men think it “Should.” They emasculate themselves then wonder why she dried up.
/r/Divorce_Men04/09/23 11:28 AM
2

Men make their wives their “Best friend” then wonder why their friend doesn’t want to fuck them.
/r/Divorce_Men04/09/23 11:24 AM
7

It’s not that she has “No libido.” It’s that she has no libido FOR HIM. Big difference.
/r/Divorce_Men04/09/23 11:23 AM
4

Yes, humiliating yourself in public is a sure way to get her wet.
/r/Divorce_Men04/09/23 11:19 AM
3

Women want men to just Get It. You don’t ask them what to do so they want to fuck! This is the great lie of “Open communication” that normies tell us is the key to successful relationships.
/r/Divorce_Men04/09/23 11:17 AM
1

Do you refer to her as your “Best friend?”
/r/Divorce_Men04/09/23 11:12 AM
0

Trying to get them to not be such dorks is a more accurate way to describe it.
/r/MensRights03/09/23 04:14 PM
5

The vast majority of men are invisible to women as potential mates. Get it now?
/r/MensRights03/09/23 04:07 PM
3

“Be kind” 🤣
/r/MensRights03/09/23 04:06 PM
21

Well at that age they settle for unremarkable men, marry them for seven years, divorce them, take half their shit and immediately find another man they like better. So who is winning?
/r/MensRights03/09/23 03:49 PM
1

Are you a SAHD?
/r/Divorce_Men03/09/23 03:31 PM
-2

It’s sooo Boomer. So dated. So out of touch.
/r/MensRights02/09/23 04:17 AM
1

This is the result of making a woman the focus of your life. You need to be the focus of your life.
/r/Divorce_Men01/09/23 02:58 PM
1

Yup. But hope springs eternal for men. They think “This one is different.” Most men are foolish romantics when it comes to marriage and women. The woman is making a practical, transactional, temporary decision and the man is down on his knees, bowing and scraping for her eternal approval.
/r/MensRights01/09/23 01:39 PM
-13

How would you describe the idea that men think only they should die in pointless wars? Pretty fucking toxic. Men have a ton of toxic masculinity traits that they themselves embrace. Like working themselves to death trying to please a nagging harridan. It’s not “Those damn feminists” it’s men that won’t stand up for themselves.
/r/MensRights01/09/23 01:35 PM
-2

If you have to choose, it is much better to be an asshole than a pussy. When it comes to dealing with women, men should embrace their inner asshole. Luckily for me I come from a long line of assholes.
/r/MensRights01/09/23 01:31 PM
-6

A ton about modern masculinity is toxic. Like chivalry. The suicide rates back it up.
/r/MensRights01/09/23 01:30 PM
-3

“Feminazis” Jesus, Rush coined this term in like 1990.
/r/MensRights01/09/23 01:29 PM
4

The real toxic masculinity is the idea, which is strongly held by most men, that their duty on earth is to please a woman. To sacrifice themselves in every conceivable way for the approval of a woman.
/r/MensRights01/09/23 01:27 PM
4

The institution of marriage is dead. Period. Tradcons have a hard time accepting this fact. It was killed by The Pill, the Sexual Revolution and abortion. Once women became the sole arbiters of human creation and could fuck any guy they wanted without consequence, marriage ceased to be what it was and turned into a transactional process where women settle for Nice Guy plow horses but still dream of getting plowed by a horse-like man and if the opportunity presents itself she will take it.
/r/Divorce_Men01/09/23 01:07 PM
0

It makes the page look like a bunch of retards when someone can’t take 10 seconds to fix an obvious spelling error. But if that is the vibe you are promoting…
/r/MensRights01/09/23 01:00 PM
1

Very very few women leave a marriage without another man lined up. The husband being dumped is often unaware of this dynamic.
/r/Divorce_Men01/09/23 12:56 PM
1

Well, come on…those women didn’t CHERISH their loser husbands, they put up with them because that was the only option they had.
/r/Divorce_Men31/08/23 11:58 PM
0

They do. But most men aren’t interested. RP.
/r/Divorce_Men31/08/23 11:56 PM
-1

She’s probably less a “quitter” (what a child-like expression!) and more a cheater.
/r/Divorce_Men31/08/23 11:55 PM
-4

Is it asking so much to notice your incorrect spelling and fix it before posting? That works for everyone. Have some minimum standards FFS.
/r/MensRights31/08/23 05:28 PM
2

Alienation often happens with 50/50 situations. A mother generally has more coercive power over children than the father and is not afraid to employ it.
/r/Divorce_Men31/08/23 12:52 PM
-18

It appears you have trouble spelling apparently. When the word gets those little swiggle lines under it, it means you spelled the word wrong. Take 10 seconds and fix it so you don’t come across as an imbecile.
/r/MensRights31/08/23 11:52 AM
3

The branch she monkeyed to broke and there are no more trees in front of her to swing to.
/r/Divorce_Men31/08/23 11:33 AM
2

That reasoning is way too logical. Women get the advantage in court because we have set up our culture to advantage them in every possible way. Gynocentricism.
/r/Divorce_Men30/08/23 08:23 PM
3

Two things to realize: She’s fucking another man You will no longer have a relationship with the kid, she will make sure of it
/r/Divorce_Men29/08/23 09:31 PM
2

Did you live under her frame or yours?
/r/Divorce_Men26/08/23 02:55 PM
6

Women won’t change until men make them. And men have no interest in that. Most men LIKE being controlled and manipulated by women. They will fight other men to the death for almost any reason but let women dominate them. It’s never going to change.
/r/MensRights26/08/23 02:22 PM
2

Most men are clueless to this way of thinking with concomitant results.
/r/Divorce_Men26/08/23 02:09 PM
14

You are totally ignoring men’s role in their betafication. Men have to take responsibility for losing their masculinity and letting women control them. Men want to be controlled by women but women get sick of this unnatural state after a while with a fawning child telling her how she is his “Best friend” and how dedicated he is to her, forever. She’s still a woman. She’s still got some gitty-up in her go. She wants to fuck masculine men, not a sycophant child who is always kissing her ass.
/r/Divorce_Men26/08/23 02:06 PM
1

What did you expect her to “communicate” with you? That she had zero respect for you because you were operating in HER frame, always trying to please HER? Women don’t want domesticated children, they actually want masculine men. They want men to just Get It without explanation. She wasn’t going to explain to you how not to be a Ned Flanders pussy. Modern men are so lost, they will do anything to please a woman. Anything but have a spine act masculine and tell her NO.
/r/Divorce_Men26/08/23 01:59 PM
10

You don’t understand it because you don’t understand that she found someone else she liked more and that’s how reality works. All that dated and expired romantic nonsense about vows and commitment is all bullshit used to manipulate you into compliance as a beta provider. Once your role was done being filled she wanted someone else to fill a different role in her life. You were an accessory. 99% of marriages are like this.
/r/Divorce_Men26/08/23 01:53 PM
1

This dynamic is the norm I’m afraid to say.
/r/Divorce_Men25/08/23 09:04 AM
1

This is the recipe for divorce round II.
/r/Divorce_Men25/08/23 08:56 AM
3

Good chance you will lose her if you move back here and she realizes everything she has to gain from divorcing you. Geo maxing is not a great strategy.
/r/Divorce_Men23/08/23 03:59 PM
6

This is a symptom of her settling. She resents you because you weren’t her first choice. So there will always be something to complain about.
/r/Divorce_Men22/08/23 07:28 PM
6

Not marrying would have been the only way to prevent it
/r/Divorce_Men22/08/23 02:50 PM
20

M/F relationships are transactional. You provided the money, she provided the honey… For a while…until she found someone else to give it to. Don’t get fooled again.
/r/Divorce_Men22/08/23 02:00 PM
5

The “system” is Gynocentricism. Men built it to please, protect and favor women. Men want this system, if they didn’t, we wouldn’t have it.
/r/MensRights21/08/23 10:21 PM
2

What a Nice Guy
/r/Divorce_Men21/08/23 08:39 PM
2

A lot of wives can still “Get it” at that age though and they are looking for an upgrade to the Nice Guy they settled for. This happens over and over and over and the Nice Guy is always “Blindsided.”
/r/Divorce_Men21/08/23 08:09 PM
4

They know the window is closing. Which is why most of the affairs happen between 35-45 when they are at the end of their attractiveness window and want to get a higher quality man before it closes.
/r/Divorce_Men21/08/23 01:09 PM
1

Totally agree that no one cares but let them know what she was doing. This is no time to be the Nice Guy Boy Scout.
/r/Divorce_Men20/08/23 03:19 PM
5

Agree with everything but #7. Being a hornball will lead you to bad decisions. Who wants to crave sex MORE? Nightmare.
/r/Divorce_Men20/08/23 03:12 PM
8

She went off the meds so she could have better sex with the co-worker.
/r/Divorce_Men18/08/23 03:11 PM
1

Kids are over rated. I mean, not mine. Mine are amazing. But other people’s kids are over rated.
/r/Divorce_Men18/08/23 02:33 PM
1

Men do nothing but compromise in marriage and look what it gets them.
/r/Divorce_Men18/08/23 02:05 PM
1

Yup. If the man’s take on the first marriage was “ I didn’t marry the right person” they have a higher likelihood of divorce the second time. Gotta get into the Family Of Origin issues that created the situation in the first place.
/r/Divorce_Men18/08/23 02:05 PM
2

Why would a man give up all of his freedom to live with a woman? There is actually less sex In cohabitation as well. I don’t get how so many men want to live a shackled, controlled life and yes, that is the situation when you live together.
/r/Divorce_Men18/08/23 02:00 PM
4

Danger here. Women don’t respect men who make less than they do.
/r/Divorce_Men18/08/23 01:35 PM
3

Have you seen the stats on second marriages? Like 70% fail.
/r/Divorce_Men18/08/23 01:34 PM
1

Never marry AND never live together. Value yourself and your freedom. Serial monogamy without living together.
/r/Divorce_Men18/08/23 01:32 PM
1

But you have to agree to be controlled! Which means you give up your integrity.
/r/MensRights17/08/23 09:24 PM
0

They are such a small percentage of women that they don’t even register. Women are feminists. This sub has some absurd cliche in their head of a “Blue-haired chick with armpit hair” or something. It’s your mom, your boss, your girlfriend.
/r/MensRights17/08/23 09:22 PM
1

You have about a 20-25% chance of having a fine marriage and that is only when the man agrees to be controlled.
/r/MensRights17/08/23 08:26 PM
-7

Why would a specific point like that be watering something down?
/r/MensRights17/08/23 06:05 PM
0

Who cares what they “consider.” Most women are feminists.
/r/MensRights17/08/23 04:46 PM
1

You’re saying it’s better to get married and divorced than not get married?
/r/MensRights17/08/23 04:44 PM
0

Another White Knight goes down
/r/MensRights17/08/23 03:44 PM
27

She found someone she likes better. That is the reason. Don’t expect her to come clean on this.
/r/Divorce_Men17/08/23 03:41 PM
0

Good thing it’s out of your hands then.
/r/MensRights17/08/23 03:37 PM
0

It ain’t 1960 any more my man. Those “virtuous” women don’t exist, at least not ones that are attractive. It’s an illusion, a cope.
/r/MensRights17/08/23 03:37 PM
1

A 29 year old woman is dangerous. She’s had her fun at this point and now wants something more serious, like a husband or baby. She won’t say this out loud to you and may even say the opposite. She likely has bad Baby Rabies and could easily trap you with a kid.
/r/MensRights17/08/23 03:35 PM
-1

There is no pendulum! This is pure cope.
/r/MensRights17/08/23 03:31 PM
3

The are already doing that. Women spend their 20s getting their backs blown out (shout out to the coach gang) and then find a Nice Guy sap to marry them at 30. And those guys think they won the lottery because that caliber of woman would never even think twice about them before. So she settles. The decides 5-7 years later that she can still get it, starts fucking another guy from work and “Blindsides” the Nice Guy sap.
/r/MensRights17/08/23 03:29 PM
1

What makes you think things will balance out? It sounds like a variation of the Cycle Cope. Everything isn’t cyclical.
/r/MensRights17/08/23 03:24 PM
0

Which is better than marriage and divorce
/r/MensRights17/08/23 03:22 PM
3

The passport bro thing is an illusion. You will be used and discarded in a third world country the same as a Western country. The dynamic is not cultural it is biological.
/r/MensRights17/08/23 03:21 PM
2

Never open up like this to a woman. It will make you look weak and she could use it against you in the future.
/r/Divorce_Men17/08/23 03:17 PM
2

Wives often use the shame you grew up with to control you. Most men accept it.
/r/Divorce_Men17/08/23 03:16 PM
5

Whoosh
/r/MensRights17/08/23 01:24 PM
2

Deal with your Family Of Origin issues that made you co-dependent to a mother figure in the first place. And understand that she was cheating. Women don’t leave a marriage for “Her happiness” they do it because they found a man they want to fuck more.
/r/Divorce_Men17/08/23 01:07 PM
-2

But those idiot men willingly signed up for that.
/r/MensRights17/08/23 01:04 PM
1

“Radfems?” It’s women. Women are feminists. All this slicing and dicing obscures the real situation.
/r/MensRights17/08/23 01:03 PM
10

Affirmative Action hiring preferences for one.
/r/MensRights17/08/23 01:01 PM
6

Men did it. Regular, ol’ goofball men. They indulge women in every way and are the reason we have the gynocentric social order.
/r/MensRights17/08/23 01:01 PM
10

Again, will no one think about how this is affecting the Good Women?
/r/MensRights17/08/23 12:38 PM
-21

Way to water down the topic and the point
/r/MensRights17/08/23 12:35 PM
3

Will no one think of the Good Women?
/r/MensRights17/08/23 12:34 PM
2

I worry you may need Family Of Origin work due to male-mother need. A lot of us had shit mothers when we were very young and fucked up how we bond, especially with women. Many men unconsciously seek the tenderness of a mother figure in their wives. It ends up freaking the wife out and she’s like “Who is this?”
/r/Divorce_Men16/08/23 04:50 PM
1

It’s not the high ground—it’s the meek, protect women at all costs ground. A cheating woman always looks bad. Why cover for her? This reflexive instinct to protect women runs so deep.
/r/Divorce_Men16/08/23 02:47 PM
2

You don’t think her friends will think less of her for cheating? Of course they will. Especially if they are typical judgmental Christian types.
/r/Divorce_Men16/08/23 01:50 PM
4

Most married people ARE stupid and live in a world of fantasy
/r/Divorce_Men16/08/23 01:49 PM
6

Not necessarily. It’s all about time. She keeps a low profile for six months and then announces she “met someone” and the friends would never know she had been cheating
/r/Divorce_Men16/08/23 01:47 PM
11

Shocker: it’s controlled by women who ban men who don’t toe the gynocentric line
/r/Divorce_Men15/08/23 07:06 PM
-9

Who are “The feminists?”
/r/MensRights15/08/23 03:54 PM
7

You get she’s fucking someone else right?
/r/Divorce_Men15/08/23 12:44 PM
1

A wife getting fat and not giving a shit about what it does to the man is a big goddamn deal. It’s disrespectful as hell.
/r/Divorce_Men15/08/23 02:49 AM
1

What does this even mean? Fat kills love. That’s how it works.
/r/Divorce_Men15/08/23 02:47 AM
2

A man wanting a healthy looking wife is not “shallow.” Bullshit shaming language.
/r/Divorce_Men15/08/23 02:46 AM
1

Always looking out for women’s feelings
/r/Divorce_Men15/08/23 02:37 AM
5

No. Your wife is your wife, not your friend. It’s the literal opposite of a friend. Men are very confused on this topic.
/r/Divorce_Men15/08/23 02:36 AM
6

Never do this. Terrible advice.
/r/Divorce_Men15/08/23 02:35 AM
-6

Your purpose in life is to be a Grandpa? Wtf? You are setting yourself up for disappointment I’m afraid.
/r/Divorce_Men14/08/23 05:31 PM
2

I feel like grandparenting is something women are way more into than men. I don’t really care if my kids have kids and it certainly won’t be a big part of my life.
/r/Divorce_Men14/08/23 05:27 PM
3

It’s not based on personal experience. It’s based on hundreds and hundreds of examples. Pattern recognition.
/r/Divorce_Men13/08/23 07:54 PM
6

Nothing changes when women hit their 30s in this regard, they just settle for one of the 80% men who is ecstatic to have her, the fool.
/r/MensRights13/08/23 02:27 PM
4

Hallmark cards must make you weepy.
/r/Divorce_Men13/08/23 01:55 PM
1

90% of men do not give tingles. Why would you think this guy is in that 10%?
/r/Divorce_Men13/08/23 01:53 PM
35

Men take vows seriously, women don’t. Who is the fool? Men still seem to think it’s 1960 and the woman they married hasn’t spent the last decade on her back, with all the corresponding problems that brings to the marriage.
/r/Divorce_Men13/08/23 01:51 PM
24

It’s true. Men really need to get this romantic idealism of what marriage/wife should be out of their dumb heads. Relationships between adults are transactional.
/r/Divorce_Men13/08/23 01:49 PM
2

What does paying have to do with “respect?”
/r/MensRights13/08/23 09:21 AM
3

Yup. If she is into the guy it won’t be a deal breaker but women find 90% of men unattractive, so…
/r/MensRights13/08/23 09:11 AM
1

😂
/r/Divorce_Men12/08/23 09:59 PM
9

Concern troll. Always worried about protecting women, even when it is 100% anonymous. You just have to wag that finger.
/r/Divorce_Men12/08/23 02:24 PM
4

This is how it’s done. They want to keep controlling you even after they started fucking another guy!
/r/Divorce_Men12/08/23 01:50 PM
8

Think of how bad things are now and then think about how bad things will be in 10 years. Why the hell would any man who is aware of the state of marriage think it’s ok for his son to get married?
/r/Divorce_Men12/08/23 01:47 PM
6

The move is to leave. She was probably already out the door anyway. When she calls you nonchalantly say it looked like you wanted to be with him instead.
/r/TheRedPill12/08/23 01:41 PM
-14

Agree. It was some seriously out of touch with modern world behavior. It’s not 1960 out there Tradcons!
/r/MensRights10/08/23 09:42 PM
12

Never let a kid who is not yours get on your lap. Come on. Stay away from kids—their parents are super paranoid and crazy.
/r/MensRights10/08/23 09:40 PM
10

Serial monogamy is the only way to go. Six months is about the point where you start to get sick of them. Sounds like you can find another pretty easily.
/r/TheRedPill10/08/23 08:05 PM
-5

I’m talking about joining the Army you twat, not signing up for Selective Service.
/r/MensRights10/08/23 07:34 PM
-18

They have been willingly signing up in the US since 1973, when the draft was stopped. Every day hundreds more willingly sign up to do the government’s bidding and sacrifice their own lives to that.
/r/MensRights10/08/23 06:40 PM
-19

Why would women care about men when men don’t care about themselves? Men gladly sign up to kill and die in for any or no reason the government tells them to and they are proud of this behavior. They aspire to be like Jesus, a murdered, humiliated sacrifice. That is the template and we wonder why men kill themselves.
/r/MensRights10/08/23 05:41 PM
4

Not bad. I’d wager a good percentage of suicides are directly from divorces/breakups.
/r/MensRights10/08/23 04:54 PM
-32

Men view THEMSELVES this way. They love being the selfless hero, the plow horse, the Nice Guy who gives everything to others and has no needs himself. This is deeply entrenched both culturally and biologically so I don’t see it changing much ever. Men are their own worst enemies.
/r/MensRights10/08/23 04:52 PM
4

I haven’t seen anyone who thinks they have unlimited access to publicly owned buildings but there are certainly a lot of government employees who think they own the buildings they work in and are extremely paranoid about goofballs with cameras.
/r/MensRights10/08/23 04:44 PM
16

The problem is the cops reflexively view anyone who isn’t a cop as a criminal and proceed accordingly. That’s what the “Thin blue line” really means: us against them. They consider themselves the best men of society and everyone who isn’t one of them is by definition inferior and worthy of contempt.
/r/MensRights10/08/23 02:36 PM
23

Because cops are former jocks. They hire the most competitive, aggressive, militarized, average IQ Tradcon dipshits they can find and wonder why police culture is so fucked up. They have to WIN every encounter.
/r/MensRights10/08/23 12:54 PM
26

The police are the enforcement wing of Gynocentricism. Watch any of the hundreds of first amendment auditor videos on YT. A man is exercising his first amendment rights in a government building…women government workers “Feel uncomfortable” so they call armed agents of the government. Those armed agents show up and want to protect milady’s delicate feelings but no laws have been broken. So they end up doing stupid things like trying to drum up bogus trespassing charges. All because entitled women…
/r/MensRights10/08/23 12:48 PM
22

I don’t believe in EAs. Chances are they have fucked and she’s truth trickling.
/r/Divorce_Men08/08/23 08:34 PM
8

I think subconsciously the men think if the ex thinks they are a hot commodity in the sexual marketplace that the ex will come back to them.
/r/Divorce_Men08/08/23 02:23 AM
3

Paycheck is power. She ain’t givin’ up power.
/r/Divorce_Men08/08/23 02:14 AM
1

It’s both here and there
/r/Divorce_Men08/08/23 02:12 AM
13

She wants to be attached to a different partner. Let’s not sugarcoat the truth here. Women don’t bail on a marriage until they have the next sap lined up—Monkey Branching 101.
/r/Divorce_Men08/08/23 02:11 AM
0

“Mindset” again. The truth is not a mindset.
/r/TheRedPill07/08/23 04:56 PM
101

It’s actually kind of brilliant
/r/MensRights07/08/23 02:30 PM
-14

Hate to break it to you grinder but one does not choose average, average is bestowed on them by definition. Average is not a “mindset” it is a biological reality for every measurable realm. You can label and dismiss this as “Blackpill” but it is the truth. Most men are average in every way and there is very little they can do to change that fact. So instead of selling this rah-rah Be Great BS, we should be imploring men to accept their averageness and get on with life. It’s OK to be average.
/r/TheRedPill07/08/23 02:10 PM
2

Sure. Respect means a woman looks up to a man. She feels secure that she is with a successful man who can make his way in the world and not sponge off the work of a woman like a child. I’m not defending it, I’m just explaining it. Women don’t want lower earning men and certainly not SAHDs.
/r/MensRights07/08/23 01:47 PM
1

Because the heart of the issue is biological not cultural.
/r/MensRights07/08/23 12:00 PM
0

Women don’t respect men who make less than they do.
/r/MensRights07/08/23 11:53 AM
-2

It’s very straightforward to measure murder.
/r/MensRights06/08/23 10:02 AM
2

Only it’s not “cynicism” it is the accurate understanding of reality. Truth is not cynical.
/r/Divorce_Men04/08/23 04:01 PM
3

Your “First marriage?” Sounds like you’re already planning the second. This is a category error. It’s not the individual you choose, it’s the institution. If the advice is “Just choose a better partner next time” that is very far from the inherent problem.
/r/Divorce_Men04/08/23 01:37 PM
1

Is this a man asking another man why they would want to bang a lot of women?
/r/Divorce_Men04/08/23 12:55 PM
2

A woman will never respect a man who makes less than she does.
/r/Divorce_Men04/08/23 12:54 PM
27

Whoosh
/r/MensRights04/08/23 12:53 PM
11

Not at all. No one gets that privilege—maybe some pols, but that is not how journalism works.
/r/MensRights03/08/23 09:15 PM
19

Chances are very high you will be made to look like a crazy asshole in the article. Never talk to a group that buys ink by the gallon. You can’t win.
/r/MensRights03/08/23 09:12 PM
5

That also works. Men are suckers.
/r/MensRights03/08/23 06:30 PM
1

Such as?
/r/MensRights03/08/23 05:40 PM
1

What was I “wrong” about? There is no draft. There is selective service. It is not the same thing. The draft ended in 1973 when Vietnam ended. Are you a military dupe by any chance?
/r/MensRights03/08/23 04:52 PM
7

Yes, it has always been this way. Men agree to their own expendability. It has its roots in religion which tells men to sacrifice themselves like Jesus did, for the benefit of women and children. It’s not an accident that Jesus was a man. The difference over the last 50 years is men agreed to their own expendability in a culture where they could get a wife a decent job and have kids. That has changed drastically yet most men still agree to their own expendability by joining the military and gett…
/r/MensRights03/08/23 04:45 PM
1

There is no draft. They stopped it 50 years ago. There is selective service, not the same thing and obviously I’m against it. Anyone who agrees to kill and die for the government is an utter fool and this has nothing to do with “feminism.” It does have to do with Gynocentricism, which sees men as expendable tools. And that is what men agree to when they join.
/r/MensRights03/08/23 04:39 PM
3

I would argue that the slave mentality is deeply embedded not in the omnipresent “feminists” but in men. But this is too much reality for most men to get their heads around. Men don’t want to be free. They want to be controlled by women. It’s not conscious but it is undeniable.
/r/MensRights03/08/23 04:14 PM
-5

The only way to understand war is to be a truck driver in the Army, in the rear with the gear like the majority of those who “served” during wartime?
/r/MensRights03/08/23 04:05 PM
0

I’m not talking about selective service, obviously that is wrong. I’m talking about the idiots who JOIN the military. The point about 1941 is so many men still have an old-fashioned and outdated understanding of America and why anyone would join the military.
/r/MensRights03/08/23 04:03 PM
-9

It does because everyone blames her and he had a huge role in what happened. Responsibility is important, not just blaming women.
/r/MensRights03/08/23 04:01 PM
1

Is your life worth stopping The Bad Guys as your government defines them?
/r/MensRights03/08/23 03:58 PM
2

Right. The concern is not a legal concern it’s a freedom concern. But most men don’t want freedom.
/r/TheRedPill03/08/23 03:56 PM
0

Shows how much men value their lives, which ain’t much. They will sell out their values (thou shall not kill) and put their lives on the line for abstractions like “Freedom, duty, honor, etc” These abstractions are used to manipulate men into dying and killing for the whims of corrupt politicians. Wake up normies!
/r/MensRights03/08/23 03:54 PM
1

Spare me the cliches about “Men died for you” it’s all expired nonsense. The Tradcon understanding of Muh Military is so outdated it’s pathetic. The government views men as tools, their lives are meaningless to to them. Why would anyone sign up for this in 2023?
/r/MensRights03/08/23 03:51 PM
0

Exactly. Just do it. You don’t need to call or explain or anything. She really has you by the short and curlies. Your mindset of letting her control you has to stop NOW or you will be destroyed in the divorce.
/r/Divorce_Men03/08/23 03:04 PM
2

You’re missing the much bigger picture. It’s not “feminists” (the great bogeymen of this sub) who think this way it’s most women AND men! This is what the Establishment thinks, both sides. Affirmative Action is primarily enjoyed by white women and almost everyone is fine with it.
/r/MensRights03/08/23 02:58 PM
7

They are also by far the biggest beneficiaries of Affirmative Action. But no one, including conservatives, wants to discuss this or even dare bring it up.
/r/MensRights03/08/23 02:51 PM
-7

Those men gave up any rights to their own lives when they volunteered to kill for the government. They agreed to be lead by corrupt politicians. It’s not 1941 any more.
/r/MensRights03/08/23 02:49 PM
4

Affirmative Action works
/r/MensRights03/08/23 02:48 PM
-6

Absurd. We don’t want killers making the decision to go to war.
/r/MensRights03/08/23 02:47 PM
1

Stop signing up to die for them you absolute morons!
/r/MensRights03/08/23 02:45 PM
-19

Bourdain was a pathetic Simp. He killed himself for some trollop! He’s a reminder about what can happen when you don’t deal with your Family Of Origin issues.
/r/MensRights03/08/23 12:06 PM
1

It’s biological. When you cohabitate, you are creating a procreative nest, whether you want to procreate or not. The nest is a woman’s domain. She needs to control the nest to create the best environment for the creation and upbringing of offspring—again, this happens regardless if you are actually trying to have children or not. The man serves a role under this dynamic. It is her world. If you think you can just over ride this deep biological dynamic with frame, you’re fooling yourself. The dom…
/r/Divorce_Men03/08/23 08:26 AM
5

Good luck because living with a woman is agreeing to her frame.
/r/TheRedPill02/08/23 05:25 PM
15

Is it worth your independence? Living with a woman is not that different than being married on a day-to-day basis. Many men don’t want their own freedom. Their own time. They want a domestic supervisor. All your time is assumed to be her time. That is how cohabitation works in practice.
/r/TheRedPill02/08/23 04:55 PM
4

Because they have been conditioned since childhood to accept that their feelings and thoughts don’t matter and their goal in life is to sacrifice themselves for both abstractions and women.
/r/Divorce_Men02/08/23 04:47 PM
7

Lesson: never live with a woman. Never. Never fucking ever.
/r/TheRedPill02/08/23 04:32 PM
-1

I would argue by agreeing to cohabitation you are inherently agreeing to live under her dominion. You are inherently agreeing that you have soft boundaries. That you don’t care about your own time and want a woman involved in every single thing you do in your life. It’s recreating the typical co-dependent marriage relationship. You can’t live with a woman and be MGTOW. And you can’t split the difference either. Cohabitation is slavery to another and this is something women want more than men.
/r/Divorce_Men02/08/23 04:25 PM
2

I’ve never understood when people say dogs are loyal. What does that mean? I have a GSD who attaches himself to me like Velcro. Is that being loyal? Do other animals run off and join other families?
/r/Divorce_Men02/08/23 12:16 PM
5

Family Of Origin issues must be addressed. And everyone has them.
/r/Divorce_Men02/08/23 12:00 PM
1

You served a role for her. Glad to hear you are truly waking up to the brainwashing men are subjected to from childhood on. I’ve got your “sacrifice” right here society!
/r/Divorce_Men02/08/23 11:59 AM
6

Cohabitation is very similar to marriage in terms of completely giving up your own freedom. Every minute of your life has to be accounted for by your domestic supervisor. Every meal planned. Every weekend meticulously layed out how you will spend every second of every minute of every hour of every day, together. She will control how you decorate the home, who is allowed in the home, when her parents can stay in the home…the list of bullshit hassles is endless when you cohabitate. But many men do…
/r/Divorce_Men02/08/23 11:55 AM
1

Dogs are a PITA. I know cats aren’t cool but they are much easier to deal with.
/r/Divorce_Men02/08/23 11:42 AM
68

Gynocentricism working as intended
/r/MensRights01/08/23 10:34 PM
1

Nice Guy
/r/MensRights01/08/23 10:31 PM
0

No one makes men get married. No one makes men simp. No one makes men vote for a party that hates them.
/r/MensRights01/08/23 09:09 PM
3

Men agree to this deal.
/r/MensRights01/08/23 03:36 PM
1

I wouldn’t say never. It makes sense to stay if the kids are almost grown and there is no hostility and the man has no interest in a new woman. As people have said, kids are smart. They don’t think this is “normal.” They know it’s not but it beats the terror of divorce.
/r/Divorce_Men01/08/23 03:02 PM
30

😆
/r/MensRights30/07/23 03:14 PM
12

“Dates?” Come on man. Did they go down to the soda fountain and drink malted milks and eat hamburger sandwiches? Maybe they put some Chubby Checker on the jukebox and did the twist. They were fucking. That’s what adults do, especially married people who are cheating. She has been doing this for a long time.
/r/Divorce_Men29/07/23 02:08 PM
14

She said that “I’m happy” shit to fuck with your head. It wasn’t enough that she was cheating during the marriage and initiated divorce she had to get some more shots in so you really knew how much contempt she has for you. FTB.
/r/Divorce_Men29/07/23 02:02 PM
10

You’re letting her dominate and control you over second hand vape smoke?
/r/Divorce_Men29/07/23 09:04 AM
6

There is a tendency in this sub to label ideas “Blackpill” which is a way of warning others that the idea is suspect, since no true Red Pill Grinder would ever entertain a “Blackpill” idea. They might start skipping leg day or something. 😱
/r/TheRedPill27/07/23 08:53 PM
29

Can we stop labeling everything as some kind of pill? When someone labels something “Blackpill” it implies incel loser. There is only truth and bullshit.
/r/TheRedPill27/07/23 03:24 PM
2

And here is where the bell curve asserts itself, as it does with all human variation. Most men, by definition, are average in every way and no amount of grinding is going to change that. The hand you were dealt is the hand you have to play and women are not interested in average men:
/r/MensRights27/07/23 01:26 PM
2

How many of the kids are yours?
/r/Divorce_Men27/07/23 12:37 PM
2

So many men struggle with this reality because they think women think like men. Men are told nonsense like “Communication is the key to a strong relationship” so they ask their wife what the man can do to make the relationship better. She says he needs to help with chores, “appreciate” her more and be more vulnerable. So he does all of those things. Then she turns around and starts fucking a more masculine man at work and wants a divorce. The man is “Blindsided” because he “Did everything right.…
/r/MensRights27/07/23 12:27 PM
2

What does that mean in practice? They are against affirmative action (women are the biggest beneficiaries)? Rhett are in favor of family court reform?
/r/MensRights27/07/23 12:11 PM
3

Women don’t divorce unless they have another signed up. This is the vast majority of divorces, whether men even know it half the time or not. It happens most of the time and most divorces are initiated by women. So maybe it ain’t 90%, but it is damn high and that is the point. The point is for men to realize what they are up against and most men are too milquetoast and Nice Guy to accept the reality of women’s behavior. They reflexively defend them, they give them the benefit of the doubt, they …
/r/Divorce_Men27/07/23 12:28 AM
3

I think you are referencing the ubiquitous “When society collapses, the women will come crawling back to us and we will regain our superior status!” cope, which is common among Tradcons.
/r/MensRights27/07/23 12:23 AM
1

It’s never going to happen. Women have a privileged position now and men are OK with it. It’s not going to change because both sides are OK with the current dynamic.
/r/MensRights26/07/23 09:43 PM
10

You don’t seem to understand the concept of monkey branching: women don’t leave a relationship until they have secured another one. That means women who are initiating divorce are more often than not cheating before they initiate.
/r/Divorce_Men26/07/23 09:38 PM
2

It’s higher
/r/Divorce_Men26/07/23 09:36 PM
28

Is she relatively thin and pretty? If so, she found a new man at work. Does she make more than you do? That is another ticking time bomb.
/r/Divorce_Men26/07/23 06:19 PM
6

Every company over 500 employees has aggressive affirmative action preferential hiring and promotions for women. Gonna be hard to avoid them.
/r/MensRights26/07/23 12:10 PM
5

Men will always give in to women. Men don’t care about other men.
/r/MensRights26/07/23 12:02 PM
8

I tend to think most male suicides revolve around problems with women. It is so deeply ingrained that we must have one in our lives. MGTOW saves men’s lives.
/r/Divorce_Men26/07/23 11:47 AM
0

The most common mistake men make which causes their wives to seek a more masculine man is being a Nice Guy. They cook, they clean, they rub her feet. They put her first and behave like they have no needs themselves. In their Nice Guy minds, this is the way to marital success but they don’t know that women’s brains are not the same as men’s. Women don’t respect Nice Guys. They don’t want a lick spittle child trying to please them, even when they specifically say they do. When you hear a man was “…
/r/Divorce_Men25/07/23 12:17 PM
5

Rich is one side of the coin. Being “hot” is the other side. Women seek both.
/r/Divorce_Men25/07/23 12:02 PM
8

You don’t need a woman to be happy
/r/Divorce_Men25/07/23 12:01 PM
5

Age is a biological reality, not a frame of mind.
/r/Divorce_Men25/07/23 12:00 PM
1

“Little Princess” and we wonder why girls grow up to be entitled women.
/r/Divorce_Men24/07/23 02:37 PM
0

Boys are taught at an early age to submit their will to others. To submit to religion, to submit to their parents, to submit to their teachers, their coaches…all of the authority that is brought down on them. After 30 years of this it is only natural for them to then submit to the control of a woman and they gladly do so without even knowing that they are.
/r/MensRights24/07/23 02:09 PM
2

As long as you finish your assigned work, supervisor not mad.
/r/MensRights24/07/23 11:03 AM
3

Most men have been brainwashed by religion and culture on a deep level to sacrifice themselves for the good of their “Family” which in reality means their wife.
/r/MensRights24/07/23 10:52 AM
3

I used to know a guy who always called his wife The Boss. He thought it was cute. He was proud that anything he was considering doing, including but not limited to taking a leak had to be thoroughly discussed and approved by her, I’m sure with some negotiation that he had to do something in return for being granted permission by the person who had dominion over him.
/r/MensRights24/07/23 10:47 AM
2

Most men agree to be controlled by their wives in every way. So it makes sense that women expect it. There are deep psychological, biological and cultural reasons that men allow this dynamic. I don’t see it ever changing.
/r/MensRights24/07/23 10:43 AM
0

Warriors need enemies
/r/Divorce_Men24/07/23 03:13 AM
1

If you signed up for the military, they own your life and you have to put it on the line for any or no reason that the politicians decide. This is a fact, not an opinion.
/r/Divorce_Men23/07/23 11:46 PM
-1

No need to fight any more. Being a “Warrior” is not a good way to go through life.
/r/Divorce_Men23/07/23 10:44 PM
-2

Not a fan of military metaphors as the military is an organization that does not value men and sees them as implements for the government policies. Men are not expendable—the government via the military says they are. If you disagree, you agree that your life is the dominion of the government.
/r/Divorce_Men23/07/23 10:42 PM
3

Whoosh
/r/MensRights23/07/23 10:39 PM
27

Sad commentary
/r/MensRights23/07/23 10:38 PM
33

Chris Rock: there’s nothing a woman hates more than seeing her man on the couch with nothing to do.
/r/MensRights23/07/23 04:55 PM
5

Cheating wives are endemic in military families.
/r/MensRights22/07/23 05:15 PM
3

Most men live out that dynamic every day. They need a mother figure to direct their lives.
/r/MensRights22/07/23 03:09 PM
15

The branch she monkeyed to appears to have broken. But if she is thin and pretty chances are you will take her back. 🤷‍♂️
/r/Divorce_Men22/07/23 02:32 PM
5

Women always want to play the “Hormonal imbalance” or “Post partum” card to avoid responsibility. This is a standard response.
/r/Divorce_Men22/07/23 02:16 PM
1

They both have psychological issues to address.
/r/Divorce_Men22/07/23 02:14 PM
1

Whining? Who is whining? Utter horseshit shaming.
/r/Divorce_Men22/07/23 02:12 PM
5

She’s manipulating him but he lets her. Classic co-dependency.
/r/Divorce_Men22/07/23 02:10 PM
3

Men absolutely create the situation with their co-dependency, trying to please their mother via their wife. Very common dynamic. Most men need deep work on their family of origin issues but simping is easier.
/r/Divorce_Men22/07/23 02:10 PM
8

Frame exists in relationships, it’s not a sales technique.
/r/TheRedPill22/07/23 01:44 PM
26

Sounds like you are living in her frame. The first thing you thought of was “How will this affect her?” Most men live in their wife’s frame of reference, one of the main reasons things are so fucked.
/r/MensRights22/07/23 09:43 AM
2

That’s most marriages my dude.
/r/Divorce_Men21/07/23 11:54 PM
3

The vast majority of women are defacto feminists regardless if they say it or even know it.
/r/MensRights21/07/23 07:48 PM
3

What is Affirmative Action? What are the family courts? What is the pussy pass in sentencing? What is the fact that women will never get drafted?
/r/MensRights21/07/23 07:46 PM
3

99% of men are normies. They do what they’re told by women to do. This will never change. Let them suffer in their ignorance if they aren’t interested in the truth.
/r/MensRights21/07/23 02:11 PM
8

Men don’t have a privileged position to give up. Women do.
/r/MensRights21/07/23 02:09 PM
4

Why would women ever give up their privileged position in society?
/r/MensRights21/07/23 01:17 PM
5

Who cares how it’s seen? You can’t be a Normie and understand the truth about women. Once the scales fall from your eyes you will forever be an outcast to normie culture.
/r/MensRights21/07/23 01:16 PM
5

It’s the pussy that is so desirable, it rules most men’s lives.
/r/MensRights21/07/23 01:15 PM
3

Women are feminists
/r/MensRights21/07/23 01:14 PM
14

Someone’s been watching “Rich Cooper” videos.
/r/Divorce_Men20/07/23 09:49 PM
-3

The opposite of lover is friend. No one said it was all about sex. But no woman wants to have sex with their friend. For all you Tradcons, can you imagine your grandpa calling his wife his “friend?” He would say it’s his wife not his friend. Men have fallen so hard for this modern friend thing with concomitant circumstances.
/r/Divorce_Men20/07/23 03:14 PM
6

“Facebook official” 🙄 Was that the girlfriend’s idea? What is the point of making these kind of social statements? She has to let the world know she’s got you?
/r/Divorce_Men20/07/23 01:04 PM
-1

The mistake I see men making over and over is forgetting that their wife is first and foremost a lover, someone you have sex with. Not a friend, or a domestic associate. Once the primary relationship switches from lover to friend, she feels a need for a lover and then often finds one at work. All of this happens on a primarily subconscious level.
/r/Divorce_Men20/07/23 08:28 AM
5

Because nothing gets a woman hotter than sitting down with her husband and making a chore list like a brother and sister.
/r/Divorce_Men19/07/23 10:33 PM
1

Each case may be different but there are definite trends that I have seen for decades. It would be foolish to ignore these patterns and learn from them.
/r/Divorce_Men19/07/23 10:30 PM
4

Who said anything about treating a woman poorly? Every relationship has a leader and a follower. If you decide to follow, you operate under her frame and if she can, she’ll find a more masculine man.
/r/Divorce_Men19/07/23 10:28 PM
2

I think divorced men had a large role in their wives looking for a new man, which is usually the situation. They thought they were doing everything “Right” from a woman’s perspective: making her the priority, doing chores, treating her like a “Best Friend,” operating under her frame always putting her first. Then they get “Blindsided” that she is cheating with Kyle, the Senior IT manager in her office. It doesn’t excuse her shitty behavior, but men have a huge role in this dynamic because they e…
/r/Divorce_Men19/07/23 03:28 PM
1

How about not leaving the house because you won’t let your wife push you around? She’s showing dude who is in control.
/r/Divorce_Men19/07/23 01:18 PM
1

Hard to know. He’s not going to talk about it and may not even been aware it happened. But he was probably “Blindsided” which is usually a sign he was operating under her frame. Much of this is subconscious until you really start to wake up to the realities between men and women.
/r/Divorce_Men18/07/23 04:00 PM
1

Can’t help but think that at some point he got weak around her—started calling her his “Best friend” doing chores to win her approval. Men treating their wives as their mother will send them looking for masculinity elsewhere and yes, even the Chadiest of the Chad Alphas can fall into this trap. Hopefully he has some self-awareness and won’t try to operate under a woman’s frame again. But it is the norm, so chances are he will.
/r/Divorce_Men18/07/23 03:05 PM
11

There’s no such thing as karma. Guy you describe is obviously an outlier in every way and guys like that are always going to do well. They almost can’t help it.
/r/Divorce_Men18/07/23 02:22 PM
-1

The point is effort will not create greatness and neither will mindset. Obviously effort will help you improve.
/r/TheRedPill18/07/23 02:17 PM
12

I can’t reiterate enough the advice never talk to the cops. They aren’t your friends, they aren’t there to help you and they don’t give two shits about you in any way. They are the shock troops of Gynocentricism—they see their job as protecting women from Bad Guys like you simply because she said so. Their whole identity is wrapped up in a Tradcon Cosplay fantasy where they are the Big Man Hero to impress their wives. FTP.
/r/MensRights18/07/23 02:15 PM
-2

Why do you keep calling it a mindset? Things are either true or not. You can’t make things that are not true true by changing your “mindset.” I understand why young men want to believe in the grind core cope because it gives them hope, but that doesn’t change reality.
/r/TheRedPill18/07/23 01:27 PM
1

Maybe you should be getting dough from her?
/r/Divorce_Men18/07/23 01:01 PM
-6

It’s not a mindset it is a statistical fact. You have less than a 1% chance at being great at anything. The Bell Curve applies to everything. Effort can obviously help but it’s not going to change your DNA.
/r/TheRedPill18/07/23 12:53 PM
-12

Grindset copium. Anyone can convince themselves “I really want this!” but that doesn’t change the reality of the hand you have been dealt regarding your own personal abilities, which by definition are probably average. So chances are good you don’t have the ability to become rich, or fuck hot women, or be great in any way…and that is OK.
/r/TheRedPill18/07/23 09:01 AM
4

He was the dipshit who got married and foolishly thought having a prenup would mean anything.
/r/MensRights17/07/23 12:48 AM
3

Kids are a pain in the ass for other people. Parents are utterly clueless about this. Your kids aren’t cute to us. We aren’t charmed by their annoying kid habits. A kid on a trip is a nightmare. And yes, I’ve raised two myself.
/r/MensRights14/07/23 01:44 PM
52

She had to prove her control over that guy by inserting herself into a male space and he is an utter pussy for letting her. You guys could have ixnayed it too.
/r/MensRights14/07/23 01:41 PM
2

A 6’3” guy with average “game” will always do better than a 5’8” dude with “tight game.” No getting around that.
/r/TheRedPill13/07/23 04:28 AM
4

No one is saying no short dudes are ever getting laid. The point is that it is 100% cope to say it doesn’t matter and if you just grind yourself into a chad you’ll have as many opportunities as an average or tall dude. You simply won’t. Obviously, women don’t consciously think “If I fuck this short guy he’ll give me a short kid” but that is what’s happening in her deep hind brain since it is deeply built in from our ancestral past. Evo psych 101.
/r/TheRedPill12/07/23 09:40 AM
-20

Ass kissing your wife on social media—I agree with the woman 🤮
/r/MensRights12/07/23 02:19 AM
4

And not everyone has potential. You ain’t gonna grind yourself to greatness.
/r/TheRedPill11/07/23 11:33 PM
11

Men are often too proud and traditional to even go after it. Take every red cent coming to you!
/r/MensRights11/07/23 11:26 PM
6

They know this is their last chance to use what remains of their attractiveness to monkey branch.
/r/Divorce_Men11/07/23 06:30 PM
9

No. It’s their height. It’s not mental. It’s physical. Height is an indicator of masculinity and good overall genetic health that women are attracted to naturally. This is not my opinion, these are biological facts.
/r/TheRedPill11/07/23 06:06 PM
3

Height always matters. It obviously matters less if you are a giga in every other way but height always matters.
/r/TheRedPill11/07/23 06:03 PM
20

I want to believe this, but a 5’8” giga chad?
/r/TheRedPill11/07/23 12:27 PM
8

Other than getting married, the stupidest thing a young man can do is join the military.
/r/MensRights11/07/23 11:02 AM
7

Having a big heart is a serious medical condition and nothing to brag about. Women don’t care how big your heart is.
/r/Divorce_Men10/07/23 08:33 PM
0

She has a sweet deal: gets the kids most of the time with weekends off to peruse new D.
/r/Divorce_Men10/07/23 11:58 AM
2

I think if your goal is to have a kid you will end up with a bad relationship. You will subconsciously let too many things go to achieve your goal.
/r/Divorce_Men10/07/23 11:49 AM
10

“Dating” 😂
/r/Divorce_Men10/07/23 11:34 AM
1

Because they are only against it when they think minorities are benefiting. What does that tell you about the average conservative?
/r/MensRights09/07/23 01:21 PM
3

Here’s an example: affirmative action. Conservatives are VERY against AA, because they think unqualified minorities are getting preferential treatment over whites. But when you point out that by far, the biggest beneficiaries of AA are white women, they want to tell you that fact is incorrect(it’s not) and when that doesn’t work they seem to be OK with white women getting preferences… as long as it’s not minorities. The compunction to defend and protect women is deeply rooted in conservatives. E…
/r/MensRights09/07/23 11:51 AM
2

Try talking about men’s rights to Tradcons and they will label you a misogynist about as fast.
/r/MensRights09/07/23 10:32 AM
1

What is it? Both want the same result.
/r/MensRights08/07/23 09:23 PM
-4

No one is arguing that those things aren’t happening. But Tradcon religious conservatives are also a real political force with huge influence and are at war with men as much as feminists. But 99% of the posts here discuss feminism.
/r/MensRights08/07/23 05:35 PM
4

Strong move—you just bailed? Awesome.
/r/Divorce_Men07/07/23 02:40 AM
3

JP is a Tradcon cuck who thinks men should serve women.
/r/MensRights06/07/23 01:00 PM
0

We can but cope!
/r/MensRights06/07/23 12:55 PM
1

Please. Everyone wants to call it “Feminism” but it is much more accurately Gynocentricism. It is everywhere and it is only growing.
/r/MensRights06/07/23 12:55 PM
5

Men have already been reinvented. The average married schlump today is no where near where he was 50 years ago.
/r/MensRights06/07/23 12:53 PM
4

This nails the problem. Women are essentially drug dealers and their drug is that sweet, sweet poontang. Even in marriage this is the dynamic—men allowing themselves to be controlled for the wive’s acceptance and a whiff of snatch.
/r/MensRights06/07/23 12:52 PM
10

Women’s favorite tactic.
/r/MensRights04/07/23 02:44 PM
3

Men always bend/give in/relent to women. Even in divorce!
/r/Divorce_Men04/07/23 01:30 PM
2

This is no time for male pride or to be Nice. Get half.
/r/Divorce_Men04/07/23 01:29 PM
2

Chances are very high she has another man.
/r/Divorce_Men03/07/23 10:12 AM
0

Woman post
/r/Divorce_Men02/07/23 05:03 PM
1

Hopefully you aren’t living with her and can easily dump her.
/r/Divorce_Men02/07/23 05:01 PM
1

That was foolish though, no? And naive.
/r/Divorce_Men02/07/23 02:50 AM
10

It is 💯 a woman thing.
/r/Divorce_Men01/07/23 09:36 PM
8

That’s part of it. But I think a bigger part is they know their SMV is precipitously declining and if they want to try to upgrade, this might be their last chance. Lots of stories of women losing a bunch of weight in their late 30s and suddenly finding they can get a better man than the Ned Flanders puss Nice Guy they married.
/r/Divorce_Men01/07/23 09:35 PM
-6

Are they evil or are too many men weak and clueless?
/r/Divorce_Men01/07/23 09:19 PM
7

Because they sensed you are not the best she can do and she was able to find a more masculine man. Men often let their guard down after marriage and want to be a woman’s “Best friend” which is the death knell of a sexual relationship. And marriage is a sexual relationship.
/r/Divorce_Men01/07/23 09:18 PM
7

Well…dunno about this. Most relationships are codependent with women controlling their men through shame and negative reinforcement. Most women want it this way and most men are fine with playing along for various reasons going back to their childhoods. So women do want pussy husbands I think.
/r/TheRedPill01/07/23 09:11 PM
14

The harsh reality is men WANT the current system we have of Gynocentricism. This is true for both the left and the right. They want a system where women are advantaged in every way at the direct expense of men. When are the Supremes going to look at by far the biggest beneficiaries of Affirmative Action—women? Never. Because both sides agree women should be advantaged over men. It will never change.
/r/MensRights30/06/23 03:59 PM
5

Damn, bitches can go to your chain of command? The government really had you by the short and curlies, thank god you are now a free man. Not sure which of those commitments was worse!
/r/Divorce_Men28/06/23 05:42 PM
2

What an utter load of pure bullshit!
/r/Divorce_Men27/06/23 11:05 PM
12

The parents are there to intimidate and apply pressure on you. They are the enemy, whether you see that yet or not.
/r/Divorce_Men27/06/23 01:57 PM
23

Men have no brotherhood
/r/MensRights26/06/23 01:12 PM
-4

It’s going to happen to the Marine dipshit (but I repeat myself) who killed a homeless by choking him out in the NYC subway. Don’t play cop.
/r/MensRights26/06/23 01:09 PM
3

It’s def the wives that keep single men out of those groups. And the men go along with it.
/r/MensRights26/06/23 11:52 AM
8

Men are considered suspicious when alone: what are they up to? A single man will never be allowed into a group of couples for example. They’re afraid you’ll try to fuck the wives.
/r/MensRights25/06/23 07:42 PM
2

Great post.
/r/Divorce_Men25/06/23 07:31 PM
4

Amazing how Gynocentricism works. Here is some 19 year old doofus, still wet around the ears looking to defend the honor of some nutcase bitch he barely knows. His dad thinks he raised a Good Man.
/r/Divorce_Men25/06/23 07:16 PM
3

Wtf on you on about?
/r/Divorce_Men24/06/23 08:03 PM
1

Pre WW2 women weren’t spending their twenties on their backs then looking for a beta chump to marry them at 30. Not the same situation at all.
/r/Divorce_Men21/06/23 07:45 PM
1

If you wife her up that will all change. “This one is different!”
/r/Divorce_Men21/06/23 07:40 PM
3

Tough row to hoe. Set your expectations low.
/r/Divorce_Men20/06/23 06:18 PM
9

Yeah and if like, you don’t, just make some! Same damn glib advice on male friendship. We know. But most men are married and their wives control who they are friends with. They certainly don’t want their husbands hanging around a divorced guy.
/r/Divorce_Men20/06/23 06:01 PM
7

The world you are describing doesn’t exist any more. Accept it.
/r/Divorce_Men20/06/23 05:59 PM
2

Listen horse, if you don’t want to drink the water that is your decision
/r/Divorce_Men19/06/23 02:07 PM
1

If they can do better financially OR sexually they will
/r/MensRights19/06/23 01:53 PM
14

Women earning more is also a leading indicator for divorce. Women don’t respect men who make less than they do.
/r/MensRights19/06/23 01:51 PM
2

Had a similar situation. Your wife is triangulating you with your Monster In Law (shout out to the Coach gang). MILs are a wife force-multiplier: the wife gets more power and self righteousness from the MIL because she will agree with all the ways you are wrong (which is any and every way). Mine finally moved to another town but it was pure hell there for a long time.
/r/Divorce_Men19/06/23 01:10 PM
6

The dinner that was her “treat” wasn’t some nice gesture out of the blue because she’s a good person. It was the final time where she let you know YOU were wrong and it was all your fault—which it sounds like you agreed with. She’s walking away victorious. Which was the entire point of the dinner.
/r/Divorce_Men19/06/23 01:02 PM
3

And the light switch effects usually happens because they found a man they like more.
/r/Divorce_Men19/06/23 11:49 AM
20

In other words, you talked to her and came away with the conclusion…that it was all your fault. That was a very effective discussion from her perspective. She walks away the winner, you ruminate forever on your mistakes. She manipulated you my man.
/r/Divorce_Men19/06/23 11:41 AM
30

If you marry her, this will be a constant source of bullshit and strife in your marriage. Decades of hell await you. No one at this point will change.
/r/TheRedPill19/06/23 07:40 AM
4

Yeah. Like, just be bolder and stuff. Problem solved.
/r/TheRedPill16/06/23 11:49 AM
6

“Creepiness” is directly correlated to how attractive you are. If she thinks you’re hot, you will have zero creep factor.
/r/TheRedPill16/06/23 11:48 AM
11

Please, more! That was entertaining as hell and probably cathartic for you.
/r/Divorce_Men15/06/23 12:54 AM
-1

Experience. Many Men crave deeply to be controlled by women. I’m not too concerned with downvotes from dudes in their 20s with little life experience or understanding of Jung and the motivation of the subconscious.
/r/MensRights15/06/23 12:42 AM
0

You’re still thinking as if it’s conscious.
/r/MensRights14/06/23 11:58 PM
18

The line about the pepper cheese at Costco 😂
/r/Divorce_Men14/06/23 11:57 PM
-3

Not consciously. But a lot of human motivation is unconscious.
/r/MensRights14/06/23 11:29 PM
-7

Anyone who joins the military wants to be controlled. Any man who gets married wants to be controlled. Whether they have consciousness of it or not.
/r/MensRights14/06/23 10:41 PM
1

It’s the other way around
/r/MensRights14/06/23 10:37 PM
18

Married men aren’t honest about their marriages. No married man is going to tell the truth. He’s going to wax about his “Best friend” and “Soul mate” and “Wonderful woman.” All the bullshit SHE expects him to say.
/r/Divorce_Men14/06/23 06:57 PM
-41

He let her control him in the same way he let the government control him. There’s no helping some men who want to be controlled. 🤷‍♂️
/r/MensRights14/06/23 06:46 PM
0

Even on this sub the men don’t know that the problem isn’t “Feminism” it’s Gynocentricism, a much more deeply entrenched and often subconscious way of viewing the world shared by both the left and the right.
/r/MensRights14/06/23 06:41 PM
1

Any time Affirmative Action is discussed, the examples used are minorities as the beneficiaries. Just Google it for examples.
/r/MensRights14/06/23 06:04 PM
6

Never tell HR shit. It could be used against you very easily. Similar to talking to the cops.
/r/Divorce_Men14/06/23 01:00 PM
14

Women are by far the biggest beneficiaries of Affirmative Action—by a huge margin. Yet conservatives only seem to care when blacks benefit.
/r/MensRights14/06/23 12:52 PM
6

She can pound sand if she sees you as a pound sign.
/r/Divorce_Men14/06/23 12:49 PM
1

It’s nothing but empty cope
/r/Divorce_Men13/06/23 10:12 PM
1

She’s great
/r/Divorce_Men13/06/23 07:00 PM
0

Not remotely worth the considerable hassle for $1500.
/r/Divorce_Men13/06/23 06:57 PM
2

If she is still thin and pretty she has someone new, probably from work.
/r/Divorce_Men13/06/23 06:49 PM
3

Deep down, women see the kids as way more theirs than the man’s. She doesn’t care about what’s best for the kid.
/r/Divorce_Men13/06/23 06:43 PM
4

Most divorce situations involve the wife cheating
/r/Divorce_Men13/06/23 06:38 PM
2

Perhaps? Of course! Stop trying to be a Normie. You know and understand reality Vs BS now.
/r/Divorce_Men13/06/23 06:37 PM
4

Choreplay is a sure way for her to lose respect for you.
/r/Divorce_Men13/06/23 06:31 PM
6

It’s way higher than 50%. They rarely bail until they have something else lined up.
/r/Divorce_Men13/06/23 06:30 PM
3

Does she have a side dude?
/r/Divorce_Men13/06/23 06:28 PM
15

What is cited or what is the actual reason? Irreconcilable Differences is cited. Her cheating and wanting to move to a better man (hypergamy) is the actual reason.
/r/Divorce_Men13/06/23 06:22 PM
6

And sometimes they are right—they can do better. I have two buddies who got blindsided by their wives and both wives upgraded. It’s real. Hypergamy is real and there isn’t always a “She got what was coming to her” ending that the dumped men crave so badly. There’s no such thing as karma.
/r/Divorce_Men13/06/23 11:34 AM
1

“Duty?” Who wants to sign up for that?
/r/Divorce_Men13/06/23 11:31 AM
3

A woman has entered the chat
/r/Divorce_Men13/06/23 11:30 AM
2

It’s literally the same person you married. She wasn’t replaced with someone else when you weren’t looking.
/r/Divorce_Men12/06/23 11:15 AM
2

It’s working as designed.
/r/Divorce_Men12/06/23 06:12 AM
2

To sacrifice
/r/MensRights11/06/23 04:48 AM
1

Example: Teddy Kazinski at Harvard and the MK Ultra shit. RIP 🫡
/r/MensRights11/06/23 04:46 AM
2

The old “Just communicate!” advice.
/r/Divorce_Men10/06/23 10:13 AM
4

You believed in a myth. A fugazi. Time to unplug and learn the truth about nonsense like “Love of my life.” The truth will set you free.
/r/Divorce_Men09/06/23 03:06 PM
3

Live for yourself. It’s the only way. You should never live for others, including your kids.
/r/Divorce_Men09/06/23 03:02 PM
3

She was finally able to lock down the new guy, which made you obsolete.
/r/Divorce_Men06/06/23 01:30 PM
1

Hot Chick is the most addictive drug on the planet and has taken out more men than all the legal and illegal drugs combined. I mean that literally—your chemical composition changes when you are around Hot Chick and engaging physically with her. Then all you can think about is more, more, more. Men who have not been with beautiful women will not understand this but is is 💯 a real, biological addiction like heroin or anything else.
/r/Divorce_Men05/06/23 02:14 PM
2

The Monster In Law is a force multiplier. You will be fighting TWO exes essentially and they will look for any way to conspire for your downfall.
/r/Divorce_Men05/06/23 01:56 PM
1

Just remember cops are not your friends and will chat you up as a trick to get info out of you to make an arrest. Say as little as possible.
/r/Divorce_Men05/06/23 01:46 PM
5

Then we have to un-do the sexual revolution. Because now mid-level women fuck high level men when the women are young. This level of masculinity imprints on them and anything below that level is beneath them. But the high level men marry high level women, leaving the mid level women stuck with substandard (in their eyes) men who are happy to have them. If these mid women weren’t off fucking these guys at college this would not happen. Now obviously we can un-do the sexual revolution, but that is…
/r/MensRights04/06/23 05:52 PM
9

Are men in this thread wanting women to settle for what they consider less? Do you want to be the man they settle for?
/r/MensRights04/06/23 11:28 AM
2

It didn’t happen to me for the record.
/r/Divorce_Men03/06/23 07:25 PM
7

No way. I have kids and a dog. The dog has conditions that he must meet.
/r/MensRights03/06/23 01:17 AM
2

Most men feel this way too.
/r/Divorce_Men02/06/23 09:06 PM
-13

She was happy to? Why would anyone be happy paying for a grown-ass man? She might put up with it because you created essentially a contract with her that you owe her once you get established, but happy? Come on.
/r/MensRights02/06/23 08:53 PM
12

Children deserve unconditional love. That’s it.
/r/MensRights02/06/23 08:49 PM
2

Not really. You are describing the other half of women’s mating strategy which is beta bux. They already got that from the Nice Guy provider who wifed them up. Now they want to get back to getting dicked down by the type of guys they used to date before they settled.
/r/Divorce_Men01/06/23 06:49 PM
1

Grinder nonsense. Your ability to put on muscle is genetically determined. If you are an ectomorph (Google if necessary) you will not put on muscle, even if you are grinding 8 hours a day at the gym. Average men can not de-average themselves with haircuts and better clothes. That will change their SMV by maybe a few percent, but not enough to make a difference. It is impossible for most men to spin plates.
/r/Divorce_Men01/06/23 03:10 PM
2

“Get a better job” might be the most glib piece of advice I’ve ever seen on this page.
/r/Divorce_Men31/05/23 12:34 PM
2

Then spinning plates is not for you. You can’t change your personality, regardless of what you hear from RP grinding grifters.
/r/Divorce_Men31/05/23 12:32 PM
5

“Spinning plates” only works for guys that are in the top whatever percent of SMV—which it sounds like you are. But most men are lucky to have ONE woman that might be marginally interested in them, so the concept doesn’t apply to most situations. An average guy is much better off going MGTOW.
/r/Divorce_Men31/05/23 12:30 PM
9

Majority of therapists are women trained in ideology to blame and shame men. They will tell you nonsense like attraction can be negotiated with things like choreplay.
/r/Divorce_Men29/05/23 11:55 AM
4

“Making friends” is very difficult, despite what some seem to think. Now add to that no booze? Going to be a tough road. I agree on the booze, btw. Poison.
/r/TheRedPill29/05/23 01:54 AM
3

Just don’t make the living arrangement permanent (live together)as everything will change.
/r/Divorce_Men25/05/23 10:18 PM
3

Depending on how often you see her, honeymoon can be a year. It’s fairly easy for her to send The Ambassador for up to a year. After that you will start to see who she really is.
/r/Divorce_Men25/05/23 02:04 PM
2

Since when ?
/r/Divorce_Men25/05/23 01:54 PM
5

You’re still in the honeymoon period my man.
/r/Divorce_Men25/05/23 01:53 PM
1

Careful of trauma bonding. There are good vids on YT on this topic. You will be absolutely convinced that you are “In Love” with your “Soul Mate” and “The One”
/r/Divorce_Men25/05/23 01:43 PM
2

Never move in with her! Moving in tells her you have zero other options. That she is the only potential tail you could possibly pull and that you are desperate to lock her down. Your time will now completely be controlled by her. What’s that, you wanted to grab a beer with the guys after work? Get on the phone and check with your new domestic supervisor that it’s OK! Every second of your time will have to be accounted for, like a teenager. Who wants this kind of control? Answer, most men! Pathet…
/r/Divorce_Men25/05/23 01:38 PM
2

Good for the species, bad for the individual man. You are welcome to sacrifice yourself for the collective.
/r/Divorce_Men25/05/23 01:28 PM
2

You have to live where the kids are. You can’t be a father from four hours away. There will be other dream jobs.
/r/Divorce_Men25/05/23 01:24 PM
4

A woman should never be your world. The important question to answer is why you want another person to be more important to you than…you.
/r/Divorce_Men25/05/23 01:10 PM
-3

Not your problem. Don’t meddle.
/r/Divorce_Men25/05/23 01:52 AM
4

Hate to be cynical but I don’t believe in “Emotional affairs.” Adults of the opposite gender fuck. Chances are she fucked this dude.
/r/Divorce_Men24/05/23 04:33 PM
4

This is not uncommon: the newness and the connection and the great sex and the “She gets me!” But you’ve only met The Ambassador. You don’t know her, at all. Why is she divorced? If she tells you he was “Abusive and narcissistic” then run. Keep it casual. Do not move in with her. See where it goes. She will push for commitments that will let her be more herself.
/r/Divorce_Men24/05/23 01:20 PM
3

He sacrificed himself. You should too. Reasons.
/r/TheRedPill24/05/23 02:03 AM
4

But, but…Jeebus done it! Why can’t you other mere mortal men?
/r/TheRedPill23/05/23 09:04 PM
1

And that is a good reason to get married?
/r/Divorce_Men23/05/23 09:03 PM
9

I used to work with a dude who was a stripper. He said he rarely did a gig where he didn’t get blown by at least one married woman.
/r/MensRights23/05/23 07:05 PM
3

All women are feminists whether they know or admit it.
/r/TheRedPill23/05/23 02:47 PM
21

He wants them to give up their life for the betterment of society. I’m other words, individual men should sacrifice themselves for the good of the collective. And this from a supposedly “Freedom” loving conservative. 🖕
/r/TheRedPill23/05/23 02:46 PM
1

If you have an ectomorphic build, you are not going to build much muscle, even if you spend 8 hours a day in the gym. I feel like everyone in this sub is a teen or young adult and doesn’t have the requisite experience with life to understand that you can’t control what you think you can. But that is “Blackpill” and negative so back to grinding because it’s the only cope for the genetically deficient (as most of us are in various ways).
/r/MensRights23/05/23 12:16 PM
1

Anyone over the age of 30 with eyes.
/r/MensRights23/05/23 10:24 AM
1

Most 10s are still damn hot through their forties. Not AS hot, obviously but if she has 10 genes, they don’t fall apart. The real wall is menopause.
/r/MensRights22/05/23 06:32 PM
2

Nope. Not enough.
/r/MensRights22/05/23 05:14 PM
3

No adult man thinks Jennifer Lawrence is ugly—that is patently absurd. Look up the Golden Triangle when it comes to why we think faces are beautiful—they can be measured using geometry. It’s literally math and math is not subjective.
/r/MensRights22/05/23 05:13 PM
3

It always matters as women have a dual mating strategy of alpha fucks and beta bucks. The beta bucks are much more common, but that doesn’t make the alpha fucks go away. A woman with a rich man who is not attractive will still be looking for a Chad. Hypergamy is only satisfied when both areas are fulfilled but these men are very rare.
/r/MensRights22/05/23 03:38 PM
12

And most importantly: pick good parents
/r/MensRights22/05/23 03:35 PM
8

Beauty is not relative. Maybe 5% is relative. Because beauty is the manifestation of procreative ability and that is not relative. Weird kinks or fetishes that men develop do not invalidate this truth.
/r/MensRights22/05/23 03:33 PM
16

You can’t grind your way to the top 20%, hate to burst this RP bubble. Your genes dictate the vast majority of what makes a man in the top 20% and that includes every aspect of not only your physical representation but also your mental/personality/disposition. Fate is a bitch. But fate doesn’t sell. So the RP grifters have conned young men into thinking the most important thing is Lifting Bro or changing your personality. You can’t change who you are.
/r/MensRights22/05/23 03:30 PM
1

Ugh
/r/Divorce_Men22/05/23 03:23 PM
6

They WERE telling you a lie because if they said “You are a plow horse, an implement—a means by which your labor will be used primarily for the betterment of others” men might start catching on. Oh who am I kidding? Men love sacrificing themselves for their wives and most will continue to do so until SHE pulls the plug. We really are a pathetic lot in many ways.
/r/Divorce_Men22/05/23 03:10 PM
5

It’s not the job of your kids to be your personal attendant when you get old! What an old-fashioned, out-dated way of looking at things. I have kids. But I don’t expect them to take care of me—they never asked to be born and they are not beholden to me because I gave them anything—not how that works at all.
/r/Divorce_Men22/05/23 03:04 PM
11

Every man who ever got married thought he was marrying the Right Woman.
/r/Divorce_Men22/05/23 03:01 PM
5

This is the classic Tradcon take. It basically tells men “OK, we know marriage sucks for men and grants women incredible control over you and everything you own, and it might kill you, but it is better for society. So, like, man up and get married because it’s good for the collective.”
/r/Divorce_Men22/05/23 02:25 PM
5

No such thing as “Soul mate” no such thing as “Love of your life.” These are silly, juvenile, out-dated, romantic myths MEN believe, not women…much to their detriment.
/r/Divorce_Men22/05/23 02:22 PM
9

For men, no. For women, hell yes.
/r/Divorce_Men22/05/23 02:16 PM
2

Yes, some do get off on hurting the man. It is a grand finale shit test that proves to them that the man really is the weak, needy child that she views him as. And most men fail that final shit test with begging and pleading and she’s thinking “I knew he was a pussy. I’m making the right decision.” The mating dance is brutal. Some of them want to abuse you Some of them want to be abused
/r/Divorce_Men22/05/23 02:09 PM
2

There is no hypocrisy. Men here want the laws changed. Until the laws are changed they should be enforced equally. If men here said the laws should be changed, but only to favor men, that would be hypocrisy.
/r/Divorce_Men22/05/23 01:57 PM
1

I don’t. What is the hypocrisy?
/r/Divorce_Men21/05/23 12:16 PM
2

What hypocrisy?
/r/Divorce_Men20/05/23 10:28 PM
1

Just don’t “Catch feelings.” Which can be difficult not to do, depending on your situation.
/r/Divorce_Men20/05/23 12:10 PM
3

100%
/r/Divorce_Men20/05/23 11:59 AM
10

What specifically do you disagree with?
/r/Divorce_Men19/05/23 08:06 PM
9

I don’t think a “22 year old” has anything to do with this since they are only banging other young guys or extreme outlier older guys with the cash and looks.
/r/Divorce_Men19/05/23 03:27 PM
8

The examples I have seen are the woman upgrading considerably and the man left in the dust, bewildered. Now will that last forever? Who knows. Women know when the musical chairs ends (when she hits 45 or so) they want to be sitting with a high value man that they can run out the clock with, not a doting putz.
/r/Divorce_Men19/05/23 03:26 PM
1

This is not the time for foolish male pride. Take her for every red cent.
/r/Divorce_Men19/05/23 01:58 PM
4

This shit is so true. Chris Rock has an entire bit on how you weren’t her first choice. This is the problem with the carousel. They bang more masculine men that rock their worlds but those men don’t want them. So they settle for a Nice Guy who will clean the house and pedalstalize her, while still pining for a man she is more into. If she was able to keep her body together post childbirth she may be able to pull a man who gives more tingles. If she can, she often will.
/r/Divorce_Men19/05/23 01:07 PM
11

She’s having an affair. Not telling you and you believing her lies were here final shit test. She’s having an affair. Very few women leave a marriage without someone else already lined up. She’s having an affair.
/r/Divorce_Men19/05/23 12:57 PM
5

Why wouldn’t you go for a Biology major?
/r/MensRights15/05/23 11:34 AM
25

Sex is the drug they use to hook you into the shitty relationship. Cure your addiction to the almighty P and live as a free man.
/r/Divorce_Men14/05/23 07:26 PM
3

Finally, something I can agree with.
/r/MensRights14/05/23 05:35 PM
0

Again, what specifically would you sue for?
/r/MensRights14/05/23 05:34 PM
0

The term racism has been defined to mean only whites can be racist. This is reality.
/r/MensRights14/05/23 05:34 PM
1

What is discrimination? Did he apply for a job he didn’t get? Words spoken at a meeting aren’t “Discrimination.”
/r/MensRights14/05/23 05:30 PM
3

Lawyer up and do what? Some of you guys seem to think we are operating in a fair system and if you just expose the wrong doing the system will step in and make it right again. That America died decades ago.
/r/MensRights14/05/23 05:29 PM
1

Why? Do you think anyone cares that this is happening? No lawyer would touch this, regardless of what some literalist spergs think the law says.
/r/MensRights14/05/23 05:27 PM
1

What planet do you live on?
/r/MensRights14/05/23 05:24 PM
2

“I did anything she asked” That right there is the problem. Women don’t want a lapdog, no matter what they say. This is counter-intuitive to most men.
/r/Divorce_Men12/05/23 08:21 PM
3

Absolutely not. She will use you to raise some other ahole’s kid. Never date a single mom.
/r/Divorce_Men11/05/23 11:57 AM
1

“Don’t be a drag” goes without saying.
/r/Divorce_Men06/05/23 03:08 PM
5

It very likely IS the case.
/r/Divorce_Men06/05/23 01:01 PM
1

Way easier said that done. Men are not interested in being friends unless you can do something for them.
/r/Divorce_Men06/05/23 01:00 PM
4

Just for the record: romantic relationships are not unconditional. There are tons of conditions that must be met. This one wrong belief has cost men in huge ways.
/r/Divorce_Men03/05/23 11:46 AM
11

They provide solutions: the husband has to change. The therapists are trained in Gynocentricism as the working worldview and their job is to shame and cajole men into compliance.
/r/Divorce_Men02/05/23 01:31 PM
1

Been here long?
/r/Divorce_Men02/05/23 12:08 PM
2

Most men are idiots, that is plain to see. At least when it comes to their decisions regarding women. They constantly take a back seat and let women run roughshod over them.
/r/Divorce_Men01/05/23 09:21 PM
2

Men act like dutiful sons to their wives then wonder why she doesn’t want to fuck them.
/r/Divorce_Men01/05/23 01:08 PM
16

You are only addressing the one half of women’s mating strategy. They also want to fuck hot guys and often find men hotter than their current husband if they can.
/r/Divorce_Men30/04/23 06:25 PM
10

It’s almost always a new man that she likes more.
/r/Divorce_Men30/04/23 06:23 PM
-2

“Marriage requires hard work.” It shouldn’t.
/r/Divorce_Men30/04/23 06:16 PM
1

What makes you think the “pendulum” will swing back? Not everything does. There isn’t some law of nature that says anything that goes one way too far will eventually go the other way.
/r/TheRedPill25/04/23 08:00 PM
1

Don’t let her know how much she hurt you. Makes you look weak and she will enjoy it. Don’t give her that victory.
/r/Divorce_Men24/04/23 02:38 PM
-15

Height is a general indicator of genetic health.
/r/MensRights24/04/23 05:44 AM
1

“People”
/r/Divorce_Men16/04/23 01:01 PM
2

She got what she wanted from you—kids. That was your job. She didn’t need you for anything after that.
/r/Divorce_Men16/04/23 01:00 PM
1

It’s not a mindset or something you were indoctrinated with. Beauty is real. It’s not everything but it sure is real.
/r/Divorce_Men16/04/23 12:55 PM
2

Glib platitudes
/r/Divorce_Men14/04/23 10:42 AM
1

Btw, lots of beta Nice Guys make good money, are tall, in shape, etc. But at some point they pedalstalized. They got weak and showed their vulnerability. That is abhorrent to a woman with options.
/r/Divorce_Men13/04/23 04:14 PM
1

Women only cheat with men they view as more interesting, attractive, higher status, etc. Hypergamy is real. No woman cheats down.
/r/Divorce_Men13/04/23 04:12 PM
0

If it is any consolation the vast majority of married men were not the wife’s first choice—they settled for a beta provider Nice Guy, not a masculine man they are truly into (because they were all taken). The ones that can still turn heads later upgraded and dumped the original husband. The ones with less options stay, but still know they settled.
/r/Divorce_Men13/04/23 04:01 PM
2

Chances are it is more than “talking”
/r/Divorce_Men13/04/23 03:55 PM
2

6 is so true. 👏
/r/Divorce_Men12/04/23 01:45 AM
19

She married you to get the house. THREE children that aren’t yours?
/r/Divorce_Men11/04/23 03:35 AM
19

RP’ers should fully embrace the trans movement, especially biological men playing women’s sports. The trans movement is the worst thing to happen to the gynocentric social order. All the invasion of male spaces and title IX BS is coming back to bite the women that agitated for it and it is a beautiful thing. Praise be Dylan Mulvaney! I toast a bud Light to you, my queen.
/r/TheRedPill10/04/23 07:08 PM
10

I do think women cheat because they see the new man as a better deal. That is not to condone it, but to understand it. Men often get very weak and needy and women want no part of it. Men’s behavior definitely contributes to the wife cheating. We deal with truth here, not therapeutic pretty lies to make people feel better.
/r/Divorce_Men10/04/23 05:45 PM
43

The truth is women don’t want to know about men’s weaknesses as they only serve to make them less attractive. Now it shouldn’t be that way, but it is. You can’t be vulnerable, ever or show you are hurting. Women SAY they will “support” their husbands through tough times but if a better (less hurt) option comes along they often take it.
/r/Divorce_Men10/04/23 05:43 PM
1

Women need “support” and there are tons of places for them to get it. Men need TRUTH, because all of the modern, feel-good, therapeutic crap is what lead them here in the first place.
/r/Divorce_Men10/04/23 01:35 PM
9

Aka they are on the spectrum
/r/Divorce_Men10/04/23 01:28 PM
4

Yeah. Because the most important thing to consider is “Will women like this?” That should be every man’s guiding principle. Right?
/r/Divorce_Men10/04/23 01:28 PM
1

Who is denying anything? Horniness, unless you have ready access to quality POA is distraction and a burden. I already made my own kids!
/r/Divorce_Men08/04/23 02:53 PM
3

Yup. But specifically it goes back to the uneven power balance that a mother holds over a son. He is in the position of having to listen to what she says and perform for her approval. That role gets taken by the wife and she has an already-trained man ready to play the role. “Tell me I’m good!”
/r/Divorce_Men07/04/23 07:52 PM
5

So sad seeing these “I promise” statements to someone who doesn’t give two shits about the man. Mother-child dynamic.
/r/Divorce_Men07/04/23 07:33 PM
1

Horniness is a curse in a lot of ways. The whole point of it is to get you to make more kids and most of us don’t want any more. Pussy is the reason for the downfall of so many men. Anything that makes you want it even more is downright dangerous.
/r/Divorce_Men07/04/23 07:01 PM
2

The power of the pussy is a wonder to behold. SHE cheats and humiliates the husband and he feels shame about asking for what is rightfully his in the subsequent divorce.
/r/Divorce_Men07/04/23 02:53 PM
1

Genes are destiny. Let the copes commence.
/r/Divorce_Men07/04/23 02:48 PM
1

You should be encouraging women to be financially dependent on men because the courts will guarantee that money regardless of what she does.
/r/Divorce_Men07/04/23 02:42 PM
1

I wouldn’t necessarily say higher T is a good thing. You will be hornier—how is that good? You will be more aggressive. You will be angrier.
/r/Divorce_Men07/04/23 02:22 PM
0

“People”
/r/Divorce_Men07/04/23 02:17 PM
2

I’ve been through something very similar. Instead of love bombing, I call it fuck bombing. Milk it as long as you can but be very careful about a relationship with her. She’s done this before. Limerence is insanity and she literally has you on drugs right now.
/r/Divorce_Men05/04/23 04:38 PM
2

It’s a very abusive and manipulative term
/r/Divorce_Men05/04/23 04:28 PM
1

Have you ever known anyone that has kids they wouldn’t describe as amazing?
/r/Divorce_Men05/04/23 02:51 PM
1

Brilliant. I never would have considered that.
/r/Divorce_Men05/04/23 02:18 PM
2

You sound like an old mother
/r/Divorce_Men04/04/23 08:30 PM
2

Most men want to be controlled by their wives. So both.
/r/Divorce_Men04/04/23 07:55 PM
1

Everyone is “BPD” or “Narcissistic” now.
/r/Divorce_Men04/04/23 06:36 PM
1

Were you friends with them while you were married or did you make friends with them after you were divorced. That’s the point.
/r/Divorce_Men04/04/23 06:30 PM
3

My point is don’t try to make friends with married men.
/r/Divorce_Men04/04/23 06:14 PM
1

You’re describing 99% of marriages
/r/Divorce_Men04/04/23 06:13 PM
-3

It’s real, not “negative.” Truth is what it is; neither positive or negative. Do you think you can make friends with normie married dudes? That they are open to it?
/r/Divorce_Men04/04/23 06:12 PM
-4

No shit. My point is that the effort will be for naught.
/r/Divorce_Men04/04/23 03:53 PM
-1

I don’t think that’s it
/r/Divorce_Men04/04/23 03:52 PM
0

You will never “grind” yourself to greatness. This is the Big Cope sold by success porn hustlers. The truth is your effort accounts for very little compared to your genes, but that is a reality too real for most to handle. They want to think they can control their destiny. And you can, to a very limited extent. The RP tells us you can change your personality—this is largely false. Your personality, like everything about you, is genetic. You got those genes from your parents and you’re stuck with…
/r/TheRedPill04/04/23 01:34 PM
18

The apps are only for men in the top 20%—they are the only ones getting any attention and that includes attention from ugly broads as well. If you aren’t on the right hand side of this bell curve, get off the apps.
/r/Divorce_Men03/04/23 02:26 PM
3

How did the President affect state legislation?
/r/Divorce_Men02/04/23 03:00 PM
4

You are in a perfect situation. Just maintain that frame.
/r/Divorce_Men01/04/23 09:37 PM
17

It’s hard to say because most women won’t put up with this situation for very long. They always want a relationship to be progressing so she can stop having to try so hard.
/r/Divorce_Men01/04/23 05:38 PM
6

Way overly optimistic. Basically a variation of the normie cope “You just haven’t found the right one.”
/r/Divorce_Men01/04/23 05:37 PM
8

This is the way. If she moved in everything would change. Less sex and she would want to control every minute of your time. Most men crave this, for whatever bizarre Freudian reason.
/r/Divorce_Men01/04/23 05:35 PM
2

👏👏👏👏👏
/r/MensRights31/03/23 05:30 AM
1

Age is the most important number anyone has. Downplaying that fact is a type of cope.
/r/Divorce_Men30/03/23 06:11 PM
0

I’m puking at the thought of a Costa Rican hooker.
/r/Divorce_Men30/03/23 06:07 PM
0

Talking to co-workers about his marriage problems?
/r/Divorce_Men28/03/23 07:27 PM
0

A woman speaks
/r/Divorce_Men28/03/23 07:26 PM
5

A woman speaks!
/r/Divorce_Men28/03/23 01:51 AM
5

“She’s coming back” ?
/r/Divorce_Men26/03/23 06:39 PM
4

Amazing all the Good Guys on this forum jumping at the chance to help a woman who came to a men’s forum. And how many of you slid into her DMs already? Thirsty!
/r/Divorce_Men25/03/23 12:22 PM
4

Very, very few women leave a marriage without another guy lined up already. Chances are she has another man.
/r/Divorce_Men24/03/23 09:50 PM
1

He’s a piece of shit because a woman said so?
/r/Divorce_Men24/03/23 07:45 PM
1

They’re victims! 😂
/r/Divorce_Men22/03/23 06:17 PM
2

This goes back to your family of origin and was exacerbated by your wife. I suggest counseling on your family of origin issues—we all have them.
/r/Divorce_Men22/03/23 02:55 PM
2

A naive Simp is what a Good Guy is. Never let someone else (especially women) define you.
/r/Divorce_Men22/03/23 02:52 PM
3

Being a Good Guy is what got you into your first mess.
/r/Divorce_Men22/03/23 12:56 PM
1

I’d say it’s third after no more Mr nice Guy and the rational male. You can’t “Rebuild” yourself just to make the same mistakes.
/r/Divorce_Men22/03/23 12:55 PM
4

That’s because men don’t want to face their role in her losing attraction. Which usually revolves around pedalstalization, deference and general pussy (a man acting like a woman) behavior.
/r/Divorce_Men22/03/23 12:36 PM
7

So true. So many men want to be their wife’s “Best Friend.” But She doesn’t want to fuck her best friend and will find a more masculine LOVER.
/r/Divorce_Men22/03/23 12:34 PM
6

She found someone she liked more.
/r/Divorce_Men22/03/23 12:31 PM
3

I like that malapropism: hide side. It’s seeing what’s happening right in front of your face but hiding the reality from your consciousness.
/r/Divorce_Men22/03/23 12:30 PM
6

Hot wife. Is she thin and pretty? Does she turn heads when she walks into the room? If so, there are dozens of men orbiting her in various ways, looking for an opportunity to get in them pants. And she knows she has a lot of options, several of which are better looking/richer than her current husband. And she can realize those options any time she wants to.
/r/Divorce_Men22/03/23 12:27 PM
-1

No. It’s you trying to show her what a Good Guy you are by labeling her ex an asshole.
/r/Divorce_Men22/03/23 12:19 PM
-2

White knight 2:coming to milady’s defense
/r/Divorce_Men22/03/23 02:16 AM
-2

White knight 1: coming to milady’s defense
/r/Divorce_Men22/03/23 02:15 AM
7

Concern trolling
/r/MensRights21/03/23 04:07 AM
2

But men never will. Because they are controlled dopes, out there every day striving for the approval of women.
/r/MensRights17/03/23 04:28 PM
1

It has really worked out well now hasn’t it?
/r/MensRights17/03/23 04:26 PM
4

That type of masculinity has always been useful for women. Useful. Like a tool is useful. Gynocentricism isn’t new. Men have been used as disposable resource providers for a long time.
/r/MensRights17/03/23 04:25 PM
5

First step is to fight correctly understand who the enemy is. It ain’t the perennial boogeyman “Feminism.” It’s Gynocentricism and both sides support it reflexively and unconsciously. Men want the status quo.
/r/MensRights17/03/23 04:21 PM
4

I call this the Cycle Cope: the idea that the current situation is cyclical and it’s bound (for reasons) to come around. There is no reason to think things will ever change. Women have huge power over men and men are OK with it. Why would this ever change?
/r/MensRights17/03/23 04:18 PM
3

This is the vast vast majority of men.
/r/MensRights17/03/23 04:15 PM
8

Society 100% dictates how men are supposed to live.
/r/MensRights17/03/23 04:14 PM
3

And the counter-intuitive thing (from a man’s perspective) is your sacrifice is seen as your lesser status compared to her. No one respects someone of lower status.
/r/Divorce_Men17/03/23 01:39 PM
6

They probably knew the wife was already but the man had his head stuck in the sand and did not want to see the obvious reality. Men’s cluelessness about their wives fucking other men is astounding: “She would never!”
/r/Divorce_Men17/03/23 11:50 AM
7

Men are idealistic. They love idealistically. They are committed to absurd myths of “The love of my life” and other old-fashioned nonsense that died back in the ‘70s. They work from an expired playbook and wonder why women don’t respect them.
/r/Divorce_Men17/03/23 11:47 AM
3

She has another man. That’s what “Space” means.
/r/Divorce_Men17/03/23 11:42 AM
1

“She met someone new” He was in the picture while you were married. Neither here nor there but… Starting a new life as a mature adult is very difficult. Everyone already has their social situation established and they aren’t looking to add new people to it. I don’t recommend it.
/r/Divorce_Men17/03/23 11:38 AM
2

A female therapist is trained in feminist ideology, not how to help men. If you are OK with that, proceed.
/r/Divorce_Men16/03/23 11:30 AM
2

Have to agree. Brady Bunching has to be awkward for kids on both sides. Those kids are rank strangers.
/r/Divorce_Men16/03/23 11:24 AM
2

Are you posting pics of you and the new broad on social media? If so, stop. It gains nothing and only serves to rub your wife’s nose in it. Men want the world to know how hot the woman they are currently fucking is.
/r/Divorce_Men16/03/23 11:22 AM
1

So true. I knew an attractive woman at work years ago who it was rumored was on the outs with her schlub of a husband. There were literally a dozen men sniffing around trying to get in line for a chance. I was one of them. But I had the advantage that I was already fucking her, so… She def was the belle of the ball there for a while.
/r/Divorce_Men16/03/23 11:18 AM
2

Older married couple love to gossip because they have nothing to talk about themselves. Let them cluck away, you don’t need to explain shit.
/r/Divorce_Men16/03/23 11:13 AM
2

Your subconscious might be thinking “Dude, sticking your dick into a woman caused pure hell for you. I’m shutting this shit down before you fuck things up again.”
/r/Divorce_Men16/03/23 11:09 AM
29

Not no reason— to protect them. They want meatheads who will sacrifice themselves to protect them and their babies. They can always find another one. They want a personal soldier who will charge a machine gun nest on command like a fool.
/r/TheRedPill16/03/23 10:47 AM
7

The Alpha Widow concept is accurate. If she is hot, chances are good she had someone better than you at some point and you don’t compare.
/r/Divorce_Men14/03/23 02:23 AM
3

Spergs gonna sperg
/r/Divorce_Men14/03/23 02:20 AM
1

Pull out
/r/MensRights13/03/23 01:42 PM
-3

Not a “Pedo” situation. Pedos are attracted to pre-pubescent children, not teens.
/r/MensRights13/03/23 01:40 PM
9

This. None of this crap would continue if men didn’t allow it and passively accept BS. We have Gynocentricism because men want it too. They WANT to be controlled, second class citizens.
/r/MensRights13/03/23 01:38 PM
1

I’ve not seen much of that personally and it kind of reeks of cope: “One day she’ll come crawling back and then I will reject HER!” If she’s thin and pretty she will always have options.
/r/Divorce_Men13/03/23 01:35 PM
6

Because she saw you as an implement, a tool, to help her achieve HER goals and one of them was The Happy Family Birthday Party like she saw on TV.
/r/Divorce_Men13/03/23 11:12 AM
2

Another dude for sure.
/r/Divorce_Men13/03/23 02:38 AM
3

As Cliff Claven once said: Women: if they’re not turning down your proposal of marriage they’re accusing you of lascivious behavior in the ladies changing room.
/r/Divorce_Men13/03/23 02:33 AM
0

Pipe dream
/r/Divorce_Men12/03/23 03:46 PM
2

A woman never bails on a marriage without having another thing lined up, someone they think is a superior man. Are they a superior man? Maybe. Maybe not. But she made her choice.
/r/Divorce_Men12/03/23 03:45 PM
11

Living with a woman means ALL of your time must now be accounted for, by her. Your new domestic supervisor.
/r/Divorce_Men11/03/23 09:35 AM
5

It always was a hate movement
/r/Divorce_Men11/03/23 09:32 AM
9

Damn, that is some seriously psycho shit.
/r/Divorce_Men11/03/23 09:29 AM
1

Paul is an OG of RP. He knows the reality of Gynocentricism better than anyone. The grifters hate him because he’s not part of their little clique of grift. “Rian Stone” is an absolute smirking jackass with a 90 IQ. Cappy lives with a woman and tells young men to join the military, about the stupidest thing a young man could do.
/r/Divorce_Men09/03/23 06:42 PM
1

Rollo is an original thinker. Yes, he got stuff from Leykis and Patrice but he actually is a thinker. “Rich Cooper” took Rollo’s stuff to create content to sell soap and $10 a minute “counseling” He’s a grifting fraud. Check out Paul Elam if you want a legit RP content creator and not someone looking to get Rich off men’s misery. “Rich Cooper” also hates mgtows but so does Rollo.
/r/Divorce_Men09/03/23 05:59 PM
-3

He’s never had an original idea in his life, the grifting doosh. He took it from Tomassi probably like he took everything.
/r/Divorce_Men09/03/23 04:59 PM
5

Our entire society is set up for attractive, thin women to dominate. They will always have options and will never be alone. They can work, and enjoy Affirmative Action preferences for jobs or not work and let some fool work for them. They are great to be with…for a while. But the entitlement and hypergamy will always come out and they CAN get a better man any time they feel like it. Beautiful women are basically their own species.
/r/Divorce_Men07/03/23 03:16 PM
2

A wife is not supposed to be your best friend. The entire concept is very modern. Men making this mistake has cost them dearly. Your wife is your lover, which is the opposite of a friend. What happens is the wife ends up friend-zoning a husband who acts like a friend and finds herself a more masculine lover.
/r/Divorce_Men07/03/23 03:10 PM
2

A hot woman is literally drugs. Being around them and fucking them releases oxytocin in your system that is every bit as addictive as heroin or the other oxy. It’s not a metaphor: we’re talking chemical reactions.
/r/Divorce_Men07/03/23 01:48 PM
6

What does that mean? She’s a 36 year old lawyer living with relatives.
/r/Divorce_Men06/03/23 01:14 PM
5

Her behavior is 100% logical She wants to be with the new guy (there’s always a new guy) and to get rid of you forever after extracting as much as she can in her way out.
/r/Divorce_Men06/03/23 01:08 PM
2

She already has someone else lined up, is actively involved with him and probably has been for more than a year.
/r/Divorce_Men06/03/23 01:06 PM
3

We don’t need abstractions to understand the situation. Abstractions only serve to confuse and muddle reality. “Satan” is an abstraction.
/r/Divorce_Men06/03/23 01:03 PM
1

Are you saying THEY are the real victims?
/r/Divorce_Men06/03/23 01:01 PM
6

Agree. But this only works if you are willing to be alone. Most men aren’t. They have bought into the idea that you must have a woman in your life.
/r/Divorce_Men06/03/23 12:59 PM
4

Yes Details = interesting Vague generalizations = boring Strive to be more interesting.
/r/Divorce_Men06/03/23 12:55 PM
3

About as meaningful as a white dress.
/r/Divorce_Men05/03/23 08:27 PM
3

Porn is a lot like booze. Some can’t handle it and become addicted. Most use it from time to time with no adverse consequences. This fire and brimstone shit about “Porn addiction” is overblown.
/r/Divorce_Men05/03/23 03:36 PM
1

It’s way less than 50%. Maybe 20% are happy. And of those how many are situations where the man buckled under and changed himself to please her so he can say he’s “happy.”
/r/Divorce_Men05/03/23 02:31 PM
3

You are supposed to ask her what three things YOU can do for HER? This is horrible advice. It makes you the pleaser, working for her approval. You want her working for your approval. Women don’t respect weak men.
/r/Divorce_Men05/03/23 02:19 PM
2

Look at your behavior too. If you treat her like a queen don’t be surprised if she treats you like a peasant. Did you pedalstalize?
/r/Divorce_Men05/03/23 02:12 PM
1

Women prefer fucking masculine douchebags over effeminate Nice Guys but they will settle for the latter when it doesn’t work out with the db.
/r/Divorce_Men05/03/23 01:57 PM
1

She treats you with disdain because you’re not the guy she is currently fucking and she can’t believe you don’t know what she’s doing.
/r/Divorce_Men05/03/23 01:37 PM
4

An abundance mindset is one thing but for most men there is simply not an abundance of attractive women available. 100% of women want 10% of men.
/r/Divorce_Men05/03/23 01:08 PM
2

“Breaking the wedding vows” Please. She doesn’t give a shit about the marriage but if he wants to end it he’s “Breaking the wedding vows.” Nonsense.
/r/Divorce_Men05/03/23 11:53 AM
1

Pretty dramatically over stated.
/r/Divorce_Men05/03/23 11:51 AM
2

Some cultures have socially-enforced monogamy, which curtails the natural hypergamic proclivities. Our culture is set up where hypergamic behavior like monkey-branching is no longer frowned upon and women can profit by divorce.
/r/TheRedPill02/03/23 09:40 PM
0

Signing up is agreeing to kill strangers! The military exists to kill people and break things. Every role is based around either directly doing or supporting those two goals.
/r/MensRights02/03/23 10:26 AM
73

Hypergamy is biologically based. Culture allows it to flourish but it starts with biology.
/r/TheRedPill01/03/23 03:27 PM
-9

Because they agreed to kill and die for the government and the government owns their foolish asses and can do anything they want to them.
/r/MensRights01/03/23 01:51 PM
1

Too late. He “apologized” which is a sign of deference, neediness, insecurity and weakness in this situation
/r/Divorce_Men01/03/23 10:15 AM
1

Splitting Expenses? Never live with a woman.
/r/Divorce_Men01/03/23 10:12 AM
1

Be slow to apologize
/r/Divorce_Men01/03/23 10:07 AM
8

I’d be like “Listen sugar tits, this isn’t even the last pussy I’ll be touching TONIGHT!”
/r/TheRedPill01/03/23 09:39 AM
1

I’ll say this: both the left and right are in agreement that men’s role in life is to serve women. Tradcons and feminists are in lock step on this.
/r/MensRights27/02/23 10:26 PM
5

“My wife told me to…” What do you mean she told you to? Is she your mother? Are you five years old?
/r/Divorce_Men26/02/23 02:11 PM
3

The void of reality is better than the warm hearth of fantasy.
/r/Divorce_Men25/02/23 03:42 PM
5

This is the path to truth for those who have the intelligence and balls to pursue it.
/r/Divorce_Men25/02/23 03:41 PM
3

“Wedding vows” are an outdated, expired abstraction. That is a fact. How many other abstractions do you believe in that are also BS?
/r/Divorce_Men25/02/23 03:39 PM
3

Divorce is reality imposing itself on the normie fantasies you were raised on and believed in.
/r/Divorce_Men25/02/23 03:36 PM
-5

It’s not “Feminism” it’s Gynocentricism and both sides are on board with it.
/r/MensRights25/02/23 01:03 PM
4

Yes. There are pics of them together and everything. Do try to stay up on these matters.
/r/MensRights24/02/23 02:30 AM
6

Cops are white-knighting thugs who will take milady’s side. Be very careful around them. They work for the other side.
/r/Divorce_Men22/02/23 02:14 PM
3

Instead of imploring women to appreciate men’s foolish, naive, idealistic vision of love, men should disabuse themselves of this fantasy. Men love idealistically. Which often ends up destroying them when they realize women don’t.
/r/Divorce_Men22/02/23 12:12 PM
1

It expired, period. Whether you want to accept that is up to you. How much more suffering do you want to endure so you don’t have to admit you were catastrophically wrong? It’s not easy but it is necessary. Otherwise this will happen again. Your “Values” got you into this mess. If following the rules lead you to this, of what good were the rules?
/r/Divorce_Men21/02/23 03:15 PM
15

It’s not the Pareto principle. That says 80% of defects come from 20% of sources. 100% of women want 10% of men.
/r/MensRights21/02/23 02:34 PM
1

Every time you tell her that she respects you a little less.
/r/Divorce_Men21/02/23 12:48 PM
1

The only reason she would want to come back is things didn’t work out with Guy she wanted to fuck more than you. And if she was contemptuous if you before, imagine how she must really feel when you let her come back to the Nice Guy Simp.
/r/Divorce_Men21/02/23 12:43 PM
1

Why cling to an expired vow? It never meant anything to begin with. That old-fashioned values shit died in the 70s.
/r/Divorce_Men21/02/23 12:36 PM
1

Women don’t respect men who make less than they do. She’s a lawyer? That means she worked with high-earning, masculine men in nice suits all day. You didn’t stand a chance.
/r/Divorce_Men21/02/23 12:34 PM
2

Given the info you provided, if she still looks good and hasn’t land-whaled herself she was/is fucking another dude.
/r/Divorce_Men21/02/23 12:27 PM
5

Uh, what? “Hormones?” We will bend over backwards to excuse milady’s insanity. This isn’t “Hormones”
/r/Divorce_Men21/02/23 12:21 PM
7

Never go rooting around in the trash once it has bee taken to the curb
/r/Divorce_Men21/02/23 12:17 PM
3

I would just say be very careful about these groups. Make sure everyone else isn’t 25 because you will be seen as the “Creepy old guy” at 45 and looking for friends.
/r/Divorce_Men20/02/23 03:12 PM
2

It’s hypergamy, not mental illness. If they have options they like better they often take them. It’s copey to call everyone crazy.
/r/Divorce_Men20/02/23 12:27 PM
5

We have to stop our sons from joining the military. I’m sure you’re proud that he will murder for the politicians that control the military.
/r/MensRights19/02/23 09:25 PM
20

I have children. No.
/r/MensRights19/02/23 09:24 PM
0

As long as there isn’t a draft anyone stupid enough to join the military does not get any consideration from me. Go be a big hero and “Die for your country” you absolute marks.
/r/MensRights19/02/23 09:23 PM
7

It’s literally drugs. Funny that most normies who would never even smoke a joint embrace chemicals that are way more powerful than heroin.
/r/Divorce_Men17/02/23 03:46 AM
15

I will go against the grain and say see this woman on the side. Your wife will figure it out after a while but what is she going to do about it? Nothing. It’s not like she has any cards left to play to control you. But DO NOT fall in love with this new woman. You’ve been out of the scene so long your perspective is going to be warped. Keep it light, don’t go all in. Limerence is insanity.
/r/Divorce_Men16/02/23 05:18 PM
1

Cope is also a very powerful emotion.
/r/Divorce_Men16/02/23 03:24 AM
3

By all means bang her! Just don’t fall in love with her.
/r/Divorce_Men16/02/23 03:23 AM
1

There’s always another bus in 20 minutes but it doesn’t mean you should get on the fucker.
/r/Divorce_Men16/02/23 03:22 AM
2

No moving in. No marriage. Keep it light. Don’t go all in. Family of origin work is in order to understand the hold your ex has on you. Otherwise it will all happen again.
/r/Divorce_Men16/02/23 03:20 AM
1

Exactly. It’s completely patronizing and condescending.
/r/Divorce_Men15/02/23 01:24 PM
1

“Tell her to diet” Yeah, that will definitely work. Just TELL her to diet! Brilliant!
/r/Divorce_Men14/02/23 12:31 PM
1

Because she had the boyfriend well before divorce talk started.
/r/Divorce_Men14/02/23 12:27 PM
8

And FFS do not get married again!
/r/Divorce_Men14/02/23 12:22 PM
1

No dogs. Way too much work. You can’t travel unless you want to dump the poor fucker at daycare. I have a GSD and he’s great and all but also a huge pita.
/r/Divorce_Men14/02/23 04:42 AM
6

What kind of utter fool wants to live with a woman?
/r/Divorce_Men14/02/23 04:39 AM
1

Icky? Are you a teenage girl? Icky?
/r/MensRights13/02/23 03:19 PM
9

Just don’t marry someone there.
/r/Divorce_Men13/02/23 01:14 PM
16

Find your real identity. You were who she wanted you to be. You feel lost because the person who literally defined you is gone. Time to define yourself.
/r/Divorce_Men13/02/23 01:14 PM
1

Humiliation is a catalyst for pain. Don’t do things that will cause you to feel humiliated.
/r/Divorce_Men11/02/23 02:27 PM
3

This story serves as an antidote for the rote advice we see on this forum to “Join a team! Start meeting people! Step out of your comfort zone! Make new friends!” There are downsides, often significant, to being the one who is trying to make things like this happen. Most people, the vast vast majority, don’t want new friends or some new guy on the volleyball team. You are an outsider and to them bring nothing but risk.
/r/Divorce_Men11/02/23 02:25 PM
3

I do think the ahole thing is genetic. Luckily I come from a long line of assholes. I have a bunch of male cousins and we were all talking about how we all have that gene.
/r/Divorce_Men10/02/23 07:27 PM
2

Your miserableness WAS expected. That is Gynocentricism: men are supposed to sacrifice themselves for women’s happiness and stfu about it. Your own family places higher value on a non-blood woman than their own son! Sick.
/r/Divorce_Men10/02/23 04:34 PM
6

More accurately a guy she wants to fuck more than the husband
/r/Divorce_Men10/02/23 04:21 PM
6

Put your best guitar gear on storage. Hopefully you have enough where she won’t notice. Or swap out high dollar stuff for cheap junk and put the good stuff in storage that she doesn’t know about. She will def look to take as much of that away from you as possible. Cars too.
/r/Divorce_Men10/02/23 04:19 PM
9

You spoke to her best friend? Every word of that went right back to her. Sisterhood uber alles.
/r/Divorce_Men10/02/23 04:17 PM
2

Where is she from? Is this one of those “Marry a Thai woman—they are so much better than American Feminists who will divorce rape you” situations?
/r/Divorce_Men10/02/23 04:10 PM
1

You must be new here. Anything less than 100% is often viewed as a failure because women see themselves as the real parent and could care less how that affects the man OR the kids.
/r/Divorce_Men10/02/23 04:02 PM
2

She’s a card-carrying (pussy carrying?) woman.
/r/Divorce_Men10/02/23 04:00 PM
2

Wtf? Cut those people out of your life.
/r/Divorce_Men10/02/23 03:59 PM
9

Fix your Nice Guy or this will happen again. Embrace your inner ahole.
/r/Divorce_Men09/02/23 12:29 PM
3

Just don’t go all in with the new one. Don’t live together FFS! Take it slow. She may be nuts. You have basically no experience with women so you won’t necessarily be able to tell. Don’t go all in.
/r/Divorce_Men09/02/23 12:28 PM
3

Bring her chocolates and flowers. Open all doors for her. Pay for dinner. Follow this simple advice and you’ll be back on the plantation in no time.
/r/Divorce_Men09/02/23 03:47 AM
3

Sperm-jacking is absolutely real.
/r/Divorce_Men09/02/23 03:42 AM
2

If a child doesn’t properly bond with its mother during infancy it leaves a longing that the child tries to fill as an adult. Especially if the child was neglected or abused.
/r/TheRedPill09/02/23 03:38 AM
1

You want strangers living in your house?
/r/Divorce_Men08/02/23 02:11 PM
1

So we are clear… The Matrix = Gynocentricism
/r/Divorce_Men08/02/23 02:10 PM
1

Women don’t want to fuck “Amazing fathers”
/r/Divorce_Men08/02/23 02:08 PM
8

Family of Origin issues, specifically mother, need to be addressed or you will continue this pattern. You wanted back in the warm arms of mom.
/r/TheRedPill07/02/23 02:59 PM
14

“I let her keep the nicer car.” Even after men get dumped they still want to be The Nice Guy.
/r/Divorce_Men07/02/23 01:08 PM
1

Feminists and Tradcons both want men in chains. Christians demand than men sacrifice themselves as Jesus did. The problem is way deeper than blaming “Feminists.”
/r/Divorce_Men07/02/23 01:04 PM
5

Agree but I’ll add the most important work: your family of origin issues. Everything stems from this.
/r/Divorce_Men06/02/23 05:30 PM
2

To be fair, the vast majority of men sacrifice the life they want to please their wives. Doesn’t make it right but it is true. Most marriages are co-dependent nightmares of a dominant woman and a compliant, shamed husband.
/r/Divorce_Men02/02/23 01:11 PM
3

Screw support. This sub is about truth and reality.
/r/Divorce_Men02/02/23 12:54 PM
8

Chances are a therapist (usually a woman) will agree with her on this shame tactic.
/r/Divorce_Men02/02/23 12:33 PM
3

Bullshit control move on her part. Tell her you will be keeping your hobbies and if she tries to shame you again you will be contacting a lawyer. If you don’t nip this she will see you as weak and demand even more.
/r/Divorce_Men02/02/23 12:32 PM
5

If there’s one thing RP’s don’t understand it’s that both sides are completely on board with the notion that men should sacrifice themselves for the pleasure of women. Tradcons want men in the same chains as feminists.
/r/TheRedPill02/02/23 08:58 AM
1

An Ear For Men. Paul Elam is the best. Not for the faint of heart though. If you want the truth about gynocentricism and all it entails, he explains it all. Too intense and real for Normies who want to play from an expired rule book.
/r/Divorce_Men01/02/23 04:47 PM
3

Since you were a SAHD, get every nickel you can in support off her. This is no time for foolish pride.
/r/Divorce_Men01/02/23 04:41 PM
1

Is it your biological child? If so, you gotta stay.
/r/Divorce_Men01/02/23 04:38 PM
2

That’s the power women wield over sons when it comes to patental alienation. Men don’t stand a chance. Deeply evil.
/r/Divorce_Men01/02/23 04:36 PM
1

Gotta stay where your kids are. THEY are your family.
/r/Divorce_Men01/02/23 04:32 PM
3

“Fair” That is adorable.
/r/Divorce_Men01/02/23 04:23 PM
6

Sounds like a tramp looking for a Nice Guy Sap
/r/Divorce_Men31/01/23 08:57 PM
1

I’m starting to believe a good majority of these mental health diagnoses are utter bullshit.
/r/Divorce_Men29/01/23 08:34 PM
2

No advice but a warning that your STBX’s parents will turn on you. You only mattered to them because you were with their daughter. That’s the reality of in-law relationships.
/r/Divorce_Men29/01/23 08:31 PM
4

No you are not being a dick. I don’t believe you like her 300 pound body, no one could or does. Don’t lie to yourself.
/r/Divorce_Men29/01/23 08:22 PM
3

If she is hot someone is hitting that.
/r/Divorce_Men29/01/23 08:04 PM
26

I work in this field and can confirm. Lots of hot nurses, many of them cheat. They are around very high value men (MDs) on every shift and can’t help but compare those high value men to the regular schlub they have at home. If she looks good in her scrubs she can get attention from these men and often more.
/r/Divorce_Men29/01/23 08:03 PM
20

Women don’t respect men who make less than they do and in fact want them to make considerably more. Facts is facts.
/r/Divorce_Men29/01/23 08:00 PM
1

It’s not a matter of being OK with not having sex as much as it is a cost/benefit analysis. Is it worth all of the downsides of divorce for the chance of having sex with someone else? Not an easy answer.
/r/Divorce_Men29/01/23 01:53 PM
1

“People”
/r/Divorce_Men29/01/23 10:07 AM
1

Why is separate bedrooms the immediate piece of information that makes you say divorce? Tons of sexless marriages out there.
/r/Divorce_Men29/01/23 10:02 AM
2

Isn’t that assuming you have to put up with abuse if you stay? It’s not binary: either stay and take it or divorce.
/r/Divorce_Men29/01/23 09:57 AM
7

What does “When you choose love” mean? Oprah shit. When did men start repeating this kind of nonsense?
/r/Divorce_Men28/01/23 01:00 PM
1

How do you think a judge is going to view a father living in an RV? It’s one step above a Van Down By The River.
/r/Divorce_Men26/01/23 08:09 PM
4

Most men have no self respect when it comes to cute and thin women—they will do anything to please them. Especially the men that couldn’t get this type of woman in his 20’s who become available once she starts to hit her epiphany years. And she is specially looking for a Simp to control. It’s a woman’s world. We just live in it. That’s how most men want it.
/r/MensRights26/01/23 11:53 AM
3

Very enthusiastic consent.
/r/MensRights26/01/23 03:54 AM
-1

Non sequitur
/r/MensRights25/01/23 06:41 PM
-4

The men who pay? Agreed.
/r/MensRights25/01/23 06:40 PM
8

Chivalry is for Tradcon fools who still think it’s 1960.
/r/MensRights25/01/23 06:38 PM
71

Nope. Cute thin women get what they want. This is reality. They can spend a decade on their backs and still have a que of simps lined up to marry them when they decide it’s time. We need to stop the Karma Kope.
/r/MensRights25/01/23 06:37 PM
5

Men do it though. She is winning. We should direct our ire at the idiot simps who are paying, not her. I don’t blame her for correctly understanding male nature.
/r/MensRights25/01/23 06:35 PM
2

Totally. Plus, you instantly double your wardrobe.
/r/MensRights25/01/23 06:28 PM
1

When are dopey men going to change their outdated Trad ways?
/r/MensRights25/01/23 06:27 PM
2

Only an utter and literal tool would join the military
/r/MensRights24/01/23 08:01 AM
3

True. And then the wife decides to start fucking Kevin From Sales a few years into the marriage and Herb is “Blindsided.” He didn’t understand she was settling for him and the minute a better opportunity came up she took it.
/r/TheRedPill23/01/23 04:56 PM
15

This is all about your frame of reference. Previously, like most men, you saw the world through your wife’s eyes without knowing it. Your entire life was geared toward pleasing her and providing. Now you will have to see the world as YOU see it.
/r/Divorce_Men23/01/23 04:43 PM
1

It sounds like she is fucking another dude is what it sounds like
/r/Divorce_Men23/01/23 12:28 PM
2

If you were weak and vacillating, always giving in to her, treating her like she was the prize, letting her know in various ways she was better than you.
/r/Divorce_Men23/01/23 12:26 PM
2

You’re asking rhetorically but I’ll answer: gynocentricism
/r/Divorce_Men23/01/23 12:22 PM
-1

Looks are a prerequisite for cheating. A homely fat wife has no ability to cheat even if she wanted to. She shouldn’t get credit for her chastity. Most women will cheat under the right circumstances, if they can.
/r/Divorce_Men20/01/23 09:30 PM
2

I say “Show me an attractive woman and I’ll show you a que of men lined up around the block who would do anything to fuck her.”
/r/Divorce_Men20/01/23 09:28 PM
5

The fact that you use terms like “Love language” could be a sign of the problem. That’s Oprah nonsense. Stuff women believe in.
/r/Divorce_Men20/01/23 12:03 PM
16

The hotter the wife, the higher the chance she will cheat. A real conundrum. If you want her, chances are most other men do. She will have endless options, which she may well take. If you wanna be happy for the rest of your life Find a plain girl and make her your wife
/r/Divorce_Men20/01/23 11:50 AM
0

Another concern troll
/r/Divorce_Men19/01/23 05:55 PM
1

Thanks for actively trying to make this sub less interesting with your concern trolling.
/r/Divorce_Men19/01/23 05:53 PM
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