Think you (or your friends) captured a unicorn? Think again.

TRPsubmitter · 2014-01-16T06:15:22+00:00

Also, it's a form of pedastalizing your woman. The more you think you have a special unicorn, the more it's going to hurt when you realize she isn't.

SoftHarem · 2014-01-16T06:35:56+00:00

All Women Are Like That, make no mistake. Every single female on the planet has hypergamy, emotional irrationality, solipsism, and rationalization (hamstering) HOWEVER some women do actively keep them in check to the point where they are suitable for LTRs. That's what we define as a unicorn, not that she was somehow born looking like a woman but not having the same evolutionary traits as the rest of them. None of this is relevant if you, the man, aren't doing your job. The Captain/First Officer model for a relationship will work if both partners are doing their job. Honestly though, you're better off spinning plates or going your own way because the well is poisoned. Its not impossible to find a physically attractive woman who has desirable qualities as a long term girlfriend, but it is improbable. The numbers simply don't add up for the majority of us.

SomersetRaglan · 2014-01-16T08:34:27+00:00

Much of red pill is about setting your relationships up in such a manner as to be immune from being fucked over by any woman. If you don't give her the power to hurt you, she can't.

In that limited sense, unicorns do exist in the form of highly attractive plates.

kzwrp · 2014-01-16T06:18:46+00:00

Unicorns would have to be 27+ on an extended 10 scale where you'd rate intelligence, sexiness and sanity.

Whereas in reality, this applies:

Smart, hot, sane - choose two.

So good luck hunting. 27+ are even more elusive than perfect tens.

vpwnz · 2014-01-16T07:06:52+00:00

This is a result of the influx of fresh blood into the sub.

REDDITCanSuckMyCOCK · 2014-01-16T07:19:03+00:00

If you can't be the man in a relationship, even the ugliest dog of a chick will leave you. It's not about "She would never leave me no matter what" It should be more about "Who's she gonna go to after me?" because men as quality as you are very rare to come by. If you think with that mindset, you don't need to worry about a thing.

Constantly work toward bettering and improving yourself, because that's the only way to gain advantage in the game.

Whisper · 2014-01-16T10:49:20+00:00

Of course there is no woman who is absolutely loyal. No one is. Think about it. Are you absolutely loyal to your women? To your friends? To your family?

Of course not.

What matters is if you're loyal enough.

winnnnnnnnn · 2014-01-16T08:49:24+00:00

OK, there's still some confusion between high value women and true unicorns.

If you possess a strong frame and work on your SMV, you can attract physically attractive women who are responsible and mature, don't act entitled, and have a pleasant personality (high value). This depends entirely on you.

The idea behind "unicorns" is that they are rare, not because your SMV is too low to attract them, but they are high value women who would still possess all of these desirable traits in a relationship with you even if your frame and SMV are pathetic.

Such a high value woman would very likely be both completely aware of her own worth and simultaneously disregard its own humongous dating/marriage potential due to her generous nature.

Good luck finding that unicorn.

LastRevision · 2014-01-16T14:02:30+00:00

Maintain attraction, be your own man on your own purpose, be a dominant leader, great in bed, an intellect with a variety of interests, physically fit, well spoken, and a lot of fun to be around- suddenly, you're the unicorn now, aren't you?

monsieurhire2 · 2014-01-16T15:04:01+00:00

No such thing as unconditional love, when you think about it. Ultimately, people want value from each other, and if you don't give it to them, or if they don't perceive that you give it to them, they leave. The quest for a unicorn is a quest for unconditional love. You'll never find it.

Mintaka7 · 2014-01-16T06:57:11+00:00

If a unicorn is a high value chick then they exist, if it means a woman is loyal and won't fuck you over no matter what, then no they're a total fucking myth.

Then we need another word for a "High value chick" and problem solved!

Laughing_Jelly_Bean · 2014-01-16T14:57:08+00:00

"Of course they exist. I have one, and so do most of my friends. I'm friends with a few single ones. My mother is one." (an actual comment).

Yeah, I saw that one. That's like saying, "Diamonds aren't rare. Every pebble I pick up is a diamond." Too funny!

Labarum · 2014-01-16T17:45:14+00:00

This is only half-correct. Women have their temptations the same as men do, but they are also capable of resisting them, the same as men can. There is no man who would not be tempted to bang the cute young secretary when his wife gets on in years, but there are many who don't give in to that temptation. So it is for women and hypergamy.

The trouble is two-fold: -Men are trained to believe that women are in fact angelic beings, untempted by the things of the flesh. -By the same token women are not trained to resist their baser desires, because they are taught that they don't have any.

This leads to a whole lot of feral women, and whole lot of disillusionment on the part of men, which makes "women are all hypergamous sluts" a common red-pill sentiment, and even a useful corrective. But it's not really the whole picture.

Yes, all women do have a breaking point at which they will leave you. Men do, too. Yes, all women, no matter how good, have certain sexual temptations that they must resist. Men do too, although they are usually not the same temptations. But women are capable of making the right choice and being loyal. Even now, with society doing everything it can to incentive divorce, most women do not divorce their husbands. It's not nearly a large enough majority, but it is still a majority.

To put it in theological terms, both men and women are fallen creatures, carrying with them Original Sin. But we both can be redeemed, too.

deepsouthscoundrel · 2014-01-16T07:44:02+00:00

I believe I have a unicorn. Here's the thing though, I'm under no delusion - if I start turning into a bitch, she will be gone. If I slack off in the gym, get fat, get complacent in my career, she will start to turn irritable, shit test way more than usual, and it is spirals out of control, she will lose respect and could eventually cheat on me.

By unicorn though, she is still human. She COULD be hypergamous. She could be a hamstering moron. In a different world to different parents, she would have been. If I met her while i was 22 and she was 17, I may have spun her as a plate, totally fucked her up and ruined LTRs for her, and she would have grown into a 24 year old hamster juicing a beta while riding alpha cock. It was only extreme luck, good genetics, a good college experience, and random factors like decent friends / education / jobs that have all contributed and molded her mind into a woman of high value.

And it's only through me being a higher value man that she remains a unicorn. No girl will EVER, EVER remain pleasant and feminine for a lower value man. So you can't define a unicorn as a "girl who will be loyal no matter what." You act like a little bitch, she treats you like one - she is fair in that cold sort of way. So if you define unicorn as a perfect ten who isn't hypergamous and won't ever fuck you over, then yes, it's a total myth.

If you define unicorn as "a 9 who has a few other cool things going on for her in her life, takes care of her fitness and health, is feminine and pleasant to be around, and gives your masculinity the respect and leadership it deserves" then I believe this girl exists. She is maybe 1 in 50, 1 in 100, but if you've fucked your way through a decent number of high quality girls (spinning good plates and LTRing the best one) it's not inconceivable that you've found a unicorn.

And look, you can claim "this chick ain't no unicorn, if you quit doing XYZ, she will quit her 'unicorn behaviors'." Yet that doesn't make her a non-unicorn in my mind. If you accept the red pill, you accept that everything in life is EARNED. Every act of submission is earned by your dominance. Every act of affection and sweetness is earned by you being higher value. When you see as RP old man who has kept a faithful sexy wife for 30, 40+ years and basically had a dream marriage, you need to understand he earned that shit every single day. Every day he beat down her hamster, he stimulated her, he developed her, he introduced her to new ideas, he ruthlessly improved himself, etc.

AveofSpades · 2014-01-16T06:46:58+00:00

A-fucking-men.

The moment you catch yourself thinking you have a unicorn, you need to reevaluate and step up your game. Your logic should override your emotion at this point in the same way you'd tell someone to fuck off if they invited you over to eat the Bigfoot they just slayed

consumer_of_fungy · 2014-01-16T07:50:24+00:00

Y'all forgetting the quality of woman you have is always a direct reflection of you.

The likelihood of you finding or developing a woman into a "unicorn" means there must be a male equivalent of said creature. How many reformed beta's can claim this?

Never forget the nature of the creature you're dealing with. Labeling woman as anything but WOMAN, is to create expectations that will never be met.

ilya88 · 2014-01-16T08:03:43+00:00

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fopdespotic · 2014-01-16T12:31:55+00:00

Women born in cultures that are actively more strictly patriarchal (middle eastern, east european, parts of asia) will repress hypergamous instincts, as is the point of that societal structure. The solution, as always, is to find foreign women and be the man women desire.

The lack of understanding for men who desire LTRs in this sub is retarded. Love is a desirable thing and there's no reason to act like it's an impossible, fool's dream. Things end badly most of the time, but that's not a reason to not be open to it.

mordanus · 2014-01-16T15:04:52+00:00

I have been saying this for a while now. It came as a massive realization to me that what I thought was my own personal unicorn was just another woman and was no different than the rest of them. This is probably my biggest concern with trp is that there are a lot of posts that talk about how to find a unicorn and that kind of nonsense. I think those kind of posts are terrible because they breed hope where there shouldn't be any. You shouldn't hope to find a woman that isn't a woman. You should hope that when you find a high value woman that you have learned enough from trp that you won't allow the relationship to be destroyed by her.

Unicorns are a myth and shouldn't be counted on as a way to make you happy. I see people keep saying "go to Russia" or "go to asia" but it doesn't matter where you go. Women are women everywhere. Maintain your frame and don't ltr a slut or an entitled and it should be good.

Jaereth · 2014-01-16T15:43:10+00:00

Most of those dudes that i've tried to help that are only after their special little unicorn or the girl they are orbiting are usually sexless confused chumps. You know what really helps them get over their one? Having sex with 5 other women.

I would say a good introduction for newbs would be "Ok, before you go after the one you need to get some plates spinning. Nine times out of ten I bet they forget about the one.

specter504 · 2014-01-16T15:51:08+00:00

/r/TheRedPill is definitively about acknowledging reality.

If you want to argue and state that it's about game, spinning plates, girls only - you need to examine the original analogy.

From "The Matrix" TRP is about seeing the world as it is, not the lies society told us. This means Feminism, Equalism, Egalitarianism, Race-baiting, etc.

The key component of acknowledging the world as it is means that we are talking about constants here. Some women may have been socialized better than others, some prettier, some are different for this reason or the other. There may be some great women (outliers) out there, but they all have these tendencies, and none are perfect.

By definition, Unicorns are fantasy creatures; be it horned-horse or perfect woman.

ArtilleryCamel · 2014-01-16T16:02:27+00:00

You're arguing that there are absolutely no exceptions to a rule about the behavior of people... unlikely.

When you try to argue that you have a unicorn, you are essentially saying that your woman no longer has the characteristics of a woman (no hypergamy, no emotional flip-flopping, no desire for ever higher SMV men, no solipsism, etc).

I partially disagree, a unicorn doesn't have to be be a woman who was born without hypergamy, rationalization & solipsism, they only have to recognize these thoughts and not let them effect their behavior. I wouldn't argue that there is a woman on this earth born to avoid such behavior, but there are women more apt to become unicorns than others, and you must take one of these women and make them you're unicorn, if somebody (like their father) hasn't done that already.

HeadingRed · 2014-01-16T18:13:37+00:00

The salient point for me is there is no woman on earth with whom you can truly let your guard down. If this is your idea of a unicorn "I don't need game\frame with her, she loves me for just who I am" then you will have a short and\or unhappy LTR.

The danger here is in thinking you don't need game in LTR. Find the woman you want to be with? Awesome. Don't take your foot off the gas, not even one bit.

batfish55 · 2014-01-17T00:53:30+00:00

Lately, I've seen a lot of newbie commenters defending their "special" women. How their girl is the truly loyal one & wouldn't ever fuck them over because they know how to choose girls, unlike other guys: "Of course they exist. I have one, and so do most of my friends. I'm friends with a few single ones. My mother is one." (an actual comment).

Love it. A man much wiser than myself once said:

All women are liars and whores. Except your mother. But don't ask your father about her.

everclearandmild · 2014-01-16T10:09:02+00:00

Some men find THEIR unicorn. The list of qualities they desire and none of the "deal breakers", however let's be honest these things tend to emerge with time. Most women know what you're looking for to use as an exit strategy and they avoid the land mines. So, you have to compromise, YOUR unicorn just needs to lack qualities you find repulsive while having enough desirable traits to balance out the things that need work.

TL:DR Never cry unicorn until you're on your deathbed. As the guys below state, just look for your first mate. A list of admirable qualities that overshadow undesirable traits.

trudatness · 2014-01-16T12:25:30+00:00

There are varying degrees of hamster intensity, but the hamster is always there.

Some women are smarter than others, some more self-respecting, some more honest, some more patient, etc...

Hey, sometimes the crazy bitch meter reads a low level on a woman.

The ones that fit the most of - or all of - the above criteria are high value, most definitely. I like to use the term "personal character" seems to aptly describe what we are talking about.

However, if you don't fill the role of the man in the relationship properly they WILL start weighing their options - even the ones you think are unicorns.

phaseonx11 · 2014-01-16T14:50:41+00:00

Amen.

7Vega · 2014-01-16T18:13:40+00:00

What is the term you guys use for a woman with a stereotypically masculine mindset? Exercises logic over emotion, does not shit test, communicates overtly, etc.

Is that a redpill woman?

watersign · 2014-01-16T19:59:07+00:00

thanks for posting this. ive chilled with girls others put on a pedestal and to me they are no different than any other female.

99.9% are AWALT.

Doctor_Mayhem · 2014-01-16T20:25:53+00:00

http://www.rooshvforum.com/thread-32089.html

Rooshv forums have a discussion on Red Pill Women. For some odd reason, I feel this is related.

dr_bloodmoney · 2014-01-16T21:28:06+00:00

I'm 44. I've been married. I could honestly not give 2 fucks whether this mythological creature is real or not. Also, I find it hard to believe there is a woman on this world that I would still want to hang out with after 2 months in her presence.

YouDislikeMyOpinion · 2014-01-16T17:34:50+00:00

Your definition of a unicorn is exactly the same definition that I use. The more I analyze the concept, the more I agree with the following:

you are essentially saying that your woman no longer has the characteristics of a woman (no hypergamy, no emotional flip-flopping, no desire for ever higher SMV men, no solipsism, etc).

It's the whole NAWALT. Well, AWAW (All Women Are Women).

Characteristics of women:

Everything ties into the two main characteristics:

Hypergamous - The continuous desire for a man that is better in his entirety based on what the woman truly desires (desires being a combination of the cognitive, emotional, and raw human desires of a woman).
Solipsistic - Above all, mostly being concerned with her own desires, needs, and interests.
Other characteristics of women:

Emotional flip-flopping Conditional loyalty

ilya88 · 2014-01-16T06:30:44+00:00

I feel I am very unlucky to have been raised with a few "unicron-esque" women.

My mother was the bread winner of the home, creating a successful business and basically living a feminists wet dream. My dad was a beta chump but my mum didn't divorce him, creating the illusion of a "normal" marriage.

Then I move into a dojo and my sensei's wife is extremely empathetic, heavily religious, is aware of female solpsism and tries her best to acknowledge it and a traditional house wife!

oh and another women saved me from my depression, she also is monogmous with her husband, succesful business lady and seems genuinely empathetic towards others.

I need to go out and smash more sluts to get the real perspective.

EddieValiantsRabbit · 2014-01-16T17:26:45+00:00

See this is a bunch of bullshit. The problem with posts like this and the overarching philosophy displayed here is that everything is proposed to work in absolutes and generalizations, and while that's easy and comfortable it's faaaaaaaar from reality. It's one of the most common features of cheap and easy to understand ideology, and it totally fly's in the face of real rationalism. So when you say "there are no <whatever female characteristic>", you do a disservice to those out there reading what you're saying as gospel because the truth is FAR more nuanced than you make it out to be. Of course there are women out there with high moral standards, of course there are women out there that proclaim to have high moral standards and don't. The scary thing is that there is no simple way to always tell the difference. So feel free to assume that all women lie and cheat, and that your value to them can never be more than superficial, and you'll often be right. But you can be 100%, absolutely sure, you will not ALWAYS be right.

mordanus · 2014-01-16T16:20:54+00:00

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corylegend · 2014-01-16T15:08:37+00:00

Not to say they do not exist, but the majority of people saying they have or might have one are operating under the Greater Fool Theory.

That is exactly why places such as this need to exist, so when it comes crashing down and it hurts inside you have support that actually understands.

I think we'd all like to think we found one, but reality does not work that way on a sheer mathematics scale. If 10 people here claim to have one, at least 8 of you are fools.

DreadSilver · 2014-01-16T07:02:28+00:00

At what point in a faithful relationship or marriage could you consider your girl a unicorn?

Finzi · 2014-01-16T15:44:39+00:00

This is nonsense. TRP should be about pointing out general tendencies, not about stating with ontological certainty that all women are sluts ("These girls don't exist").

What is this post meant to prove? Either he's expressing something obviously, trivially true -- that no individual is a saint with no selfish qualities -- or he's saying something obviously wrong and absurdly misanthropic, which is that all women are terrible people. The truth is of course much more ambiguous. Women behave badly a lot, but some women behave a lot better than others a lot more of the time. Unless you're going pure MGTOW, you have to accept it.

Nemester · 2014-01-16T16:55:45+00:00

Amen, brother.

idash · 2014-01-16T14:17:57+00:00

Apparently I'm not a woman.

EddieValiantsRabbit · 2014-01-16T06:45:31+00:00

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Deracinated · 2014-01-16T15:53:14+00:00

It's the SAME thing women who try to reform "bad boys" say: "I know I can change this one! We have something different together this time. I'm not like other girls so I can train him. And he's unique too!"

Serious question, no bullshit. Does that mean TRP believes all females are "bad"?

ilya88 · 2014-01-16T08:15:06+00:00

OP is frustrated with his unreal idea of "ideal girl". No emotional flip-flop? It means Margharet Thatcher. Sorry, but fertile girls must be emotionally flipflopping due to their hormonal cycle. More fertile = larger amplitude. It stabilizes somewhat after first pregnancy, but... well. Only after menopause women become stable like men.

Maybe OP just want a guy as his perfect girl?

And of course women can be loyal. But the point is not in being loyal to "you" - your big ego, your obssession on the uniqueness of your dick. Women can be loyal to family. Fiercely loyal. When you both are fiercely loyal to your family, both love each other, nothing will stand between you (know what - these higher SMV men will not care for her kids after all).

I assume you that such woman will never fuck her family over - and you as her husband, in such relation, stand as most important part of family.

EddieValiantsRabbit · 2014-01-16T17:39:38+00:00

I remember hearing somewhere that when a person uses words like "all" and "every" you should be skeptical.

kiltrout · 2014-01-16T17:08:46+00:00

A unicorn is an idealized fantasy girl. It's a girl who reflects your own weaknesses and beta desires.

Yo this fantasy girl projected in dreams shouldn't be looked at as a weakness but rather as a really important feminine part of oneself. Yeah you guys here like to talk about being hyper masculine so I can't really sell you the being in touch with your feminine side shit, but don't dismiss fantasies or dreams as if they're some mirage. They real. They tell you about you. Murder your feminine side and you'll be a half human.

Title	Think you (or your friends) captured a unicorn? Think again.
Author	TRPsubmitter
Upvotes	222
Comments	192
Date	January 16, 2014 6:02 AM UTC (12 years ago)
Subreddit	Posted in /r/TheRedPill
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