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House passes bill requiring woman to register for draft.

zomrhino

September 28, 2021
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https://www.washingtonpost.com/national-security/house-defense-authorization-bill/2021/09/23/ef9c05d2-1bc9-11ec-a99a-5fea2b2da34b_story.html
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Title House passes bill requiring woman to register for draft.
Author

zomrhino

Upvotes 1288
Comments 192
Date September 28, 2021 3:37 AM UTC
(4 years ago)
Subreddit Posted in /r/MensRights
Original Link https://old.reddit.com/r/MensRights/comments/pwxr6v/house_passes_bill_requiring_woman_to_register_for/
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Comments

[–]Jakeybaby125 371 points372 points373 points 4 years ago (29 children) | Copy Link

It's very interesting how many people are saying that it should be abolished now that women are registering but we didn't hear a peep out of them when it was just men

[–]az226 232 points233 points234 points 4 years ago (8 children) | Copy Link

The empathy gap

[–]followthewhiterabb77 106 points107 points108 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Actually a perfect slogan for Men’s Rights

[–]red-tea-rex 43 points44 points45 points 4 years ago (6 children) | Copy Link

And the illusion of equality. Watch how fast the drafted get pregnant right before deployment.

[–]lasciate 9 points10 points11 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Wouldn't even be necessary.

  1. We'll never have another draft war. This is a meaningless gesture for politicians to pretend they are pro-equality. Soon everyone will forget that for the entirety of the active draft it was male-only. All they'll care about is that it's gender neutral now (now that it's inactive and redundant).
  2. Even if we did have a draft war, women would be given cushy noncombat positions.
  3. Since they are deliberately dodging a Supreme Court ruling they can easily just revert the draft to male-only at any time.

[–]MrElderwood 27 points28 points29 points 4 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link

They should make birth control mandatory from the moment they are drafted!

"Your ass belongs to Uncle Sam now, sweetheart!"

[–]ComfortablyBalanced 10 points11 points12 points 4 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

Your pussy

[–]MrElderwood 12 points13 points14 points 4 years ago* (1 child) | Copy Link

I thought about it, but it didn't quite scan correctly ;)

Edit: Thanks for the award! Always gratifying to know you've raised a smile!

[–]red-tea-rex 8 points9 points10 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Does sound super creepy, especially if Sam is an actual Uncle, lol

[–]ComfortablyBalanced 4 points5 points6 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

They'll plead their bellies.

[–]Right_Pepe 57 points58 points59 points 4 years ago (14 children) | Copy Link

The feminist claim they are as strong as men and could do what men do and even better. So let them stay and don't abolish it. I want to see how those femminist are going to liberate the women from Sharia land.

[–]GulchDale 32 points33 points34 points 4 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

Let's be real, the only thing they are willing to sacrifice for Afghani woman is space on their instagram feed.

[–]Right_Pepe 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Joeybtoonz, Narcicist and #afganistan?

[–]DPestWork 20 points21 points22 points 4 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

More importantly the standards should be the same for men and women. The physical fitness tests were a joke for females when I was in. Bo bias, it’s written in paper. Same age, but different gender so different requirements. I loved hearing the feminist officers talking about equality and adversity but couldn’t do 5 (slight exaggeration) pushups which still got them advanced scores. I’d do 70+ in a minute and get a mediocre score. Walking 1.5 miles was passing but I actually had to try to get a good score.

[–]Right_Pepe 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Agree. The military is the backbone of a country. Not some feminist flexing ground.

[–]LeaveLightOn 3 points4 points5 points 4 years ago (8 children) | Copy Link

Not all women are feminists. Some value men as protectors and realize a female draft is a bad idea... as well as a male draft.

[–]Right_Pepe 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link

True. But it is hard to keep that in mind when all I see are them screaming qe can do better than men but says I am not a gentleman for not keeping the door open

[–]LeaveLightOn 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

Where doth thou live? It sounds terrible.

[–]Right_Pepe 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

I meant online. I usually give my opinions online only and support men to not hold the doors for the string and empower feminist they claim they are

[–]mug-buliku 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

*dost.

[–]Razorbladekandyfan 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link

So if they value men as protectors why would a male draft be a bad idea? It dovetails with their misandric idea of what men are.

[–]LeaveLightOn 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

Men willingly protecting women and children out of compassion and a sense of duty is not a draft. And that is why most don't support a draft. Some men are not fighters. And men and women have protection instincts and can be used in many ways.

[–]Razorbladekandyfan 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

If men are so gung ho about being free bodyguards they should have no problems with a male only draft.

[–]LeaveLightOn 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

I didn't know men were. I was referring to not all women want a draft, for men or women. I wasn't referring to men wanting or not wanting a draft. I also don't think men are gun ho to be free body guards, but some have natural protect instincts and are physically and emotionally better at combat than most women on a general curve.

[–]jessi387 9 points10 points11 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Honestly man... it really saddens me to say, but that is the only way men will ever get fair treatment. More women begin experiencing what it is like to suffer what they do, and then it becomes an unacceptable way for society to treat human beings. Rinse repeat.

[–]bistix 9 points10 points11 points 4 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link

I've heard people wanting to abolish the draft my entire life.

[–]peter_venture 15 points16 points17 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Yes, that talk was always out there, but it was always a minor thing that seldom got any traction. The issue here is that now the idea is suddenly widespread, once women are involved.

[–]GulchDale 4 points5 points6 points 4 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

It's definitely been a thing with the left since Vietnam. Interestingly, it's the white knights and housewives on the right that all of a sudden care about the draft.

[–]Argosy37 6 points7 points8 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Libertarians have always wanted to abolish the draft.

[–]SamaelET 141 points142 points143 points 4 years ago (12 children) | Copy Link

Now we have to end the draft. Because even though women can be drafted, we know that only men will be.

[–]hottake_toothache 31 points32 points33 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Absolutely right. This is purely performative. When people need to die, society will send men. That's just how it will unfold.

[+]pn1159 -15 points-14 points-13 points 4 years ago (10 children) | Copy Link

We need the draft in case we need the draft. I think women will be drafted and sent into combat.

[–]GulchDale 20 points21 points22 points 4 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link

The only reason we "need" the draft is when governments start unpopular wars and need to send poor people in as cannon fodder.

[–]Argosy37 8 points9 points10 points 4 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

Yup. If the mainland is actually under attack people will be volunteering by the tens of millions. The draft is for unnecessary, offensive wars not defensive ones.

[–]pn1159 -3 points-2 points-1 points 4 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

I think we need the draft to ensure we have enough people to fight in the war, popular or not.

[–]Argosy37 2 points3 points4 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

A draft is literal slavery. You had better have a good justification for that war to institute slavery.

[–]Brave-Evidence2793 2 points3 points4 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

It's cannon fodder for popular wars, too...

[–]Brave-Evidence2793 5 points6 points7 points 4 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link

I think women will be drafted into every non-dangerous support role that exists, and all the men who would have survived in them get pushed to the front lines.

Like others have said, purely performative

[–]scootypebbles 1 point2 points3 points 4 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

Don't forget that when the war is over, the women in non-combat roles will proudly compare their service to the men who fought in the trenches as if their hardship or experience would be comparable to what the men endured.

[–]Brave-Evidence2793 2 points3 points4 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Please, they do that now

[–]pn1159 2 points3 points4 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Maybe. I hope people (men) will demand the women serve in combat roles. "Equality demands that you get your princess ass to the front lines and take a bullet for god and country".

[–]mug-buliku -1 points0 points1 point 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

We need the draft in case we need the draft.

"A tautology is a tautology."

[–]Fact_Trumps_Feeling 322 points323 points324 points 4 years ago (19 children) | Copy Link

Women didn't care when the draft only affected men. However, now that they're potentially going to have to sign up for selective service as well, it's time to do away with it? Hilarious.

[–]__PETTYOFFICER117__ 191 points192 points193 points 4 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link

Funny how intersectional feminism often ignores men's issues.

[–]casra888 77 points78 points79 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Often? Always!

[–]goawayion 33 points34 points35 points 4 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

Ignores? They reject men’s issues and claim women most affected.

[–]ZS_1171 14 points15 points16 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

thousands of men die, [a dozen] women most affected

[–]TracyMorganFreeman 62 points63 points64 points 4 years ago* (4 children) | Copy Link

Narcissism isn't limited to women or feminists, but it's especially hilarious when people claiming to be fore fairness or equality are exposed as opportunists hiding under the veneer of it.

[–]benderXX 17 points18 points19 points 4 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

Nailed it. Feminism is a cloak for narcissistic a$&@es

[–]ZS_1171 3 points4 points5 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

and people who actually believe in equality, become feminists not knowing what its really about.

[–]imextremelymoderate 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Asshoes. I think there's something there

[–]Drunkensquidman 2 points3 points4 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Eloquently put

[–]LawUntoChaos 30 points31 points32 points 4 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link

I had a debate with someone who said that Feminists organisations had spoken out against the draft for men...

Except of course for the right now situation where a feminist group is asking the SC to review the draft for the undue burden it puts on men over women.

I wonder if they knew this was coming and why they decided only decided recently that it was a great injustice.

[–]Stephen_Morgan 17 points18 points19 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

The whole fight was fought by the NCFM, not a feminist organisation. The feminists just grabbed onto the NCFM's coat tails when all the work had been done.

[–]SamaelET 6 points7 points8 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

The reason why ALCU supported NCFM is because "drafting only men si sending the message than women are weak, hence misoginy".

They mostly helped because it is misoginy. They know the draft is unlikely to happen, that even if it happens women will not be drafted and therefore better to join to give a good image of feminism.

[–]DouglasWallace 2 points3 points4 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

In fairness, NOW did have something on their website some years ago about scrapping the draft. It was around for at least a few months, though I've not seen it there for a few years.

[–]megachrispercent 15 points16 points17 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

It's funny, because now suddenly both feminists AND "anti-"feminist tradcon women and white knights are saying the same "nobody should be drafted" phrase and using the same argument. They DEFINITELY didn't care until women were called to responsibility like men were expected to for the same rights given to women for free.

[+]YourPillsAintWorkin13 points 4 years ago [recovered] (1 child) | Copy Link

The Selective Service Act was passed in 1917 for WW1. So for the last 104 years if you asked women whether the draft was bad, you'd hear crickets. Now it's a problem.

[–]anon517 2 points3 points4 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Most women were against the original women's right to vote bill precisely because the draft requirement was included in the original bill.

Feminists were able to change the bill to exclude the draft for women, and then women began supporting women's suffrage in droves.

Equality = All the rights with none of the responsibilities.

[–]Preform_Perform 4 points5 points6 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

This is how we defeat abortion. Allow men to be able to abort out of a child's life and watch how quickly the agenda changes.

[–]inkoDe -1 points0 points1 point 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Well, it sucks that it is reactive like that but at the end of the day that is the outcome I want.

[–]LeaveLightOn 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

I cared. Many of my female family members care. I don't like the draft.

[–]DiamondArkansas 26 points27 points28 points 4 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link

Yknow, I'd really like to read the article. Can anyone get me a source that ISN'T paywalled?

[–]Dood71 14 points15 points16 points 4 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

I can read this fine. Maybe if you have a vpn pretend you're Canadian

[–]turbulance4 5 points6 points7 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

I can read it fine, in the States

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points3 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

outline.com copy and paste the link

[–]DouglasWallace -1 points0 points1 point 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

If you search the internet, you'll find plenty of alternative articles.

[–]Right_Pepe 47 points48 points49 points 4 years ago (6 children) | Copy Link

Now we just need to treat them as equals in both training and during battle.

So if we can't save this man due to certain reason. We can also apply it on the woman without the media saying we hate woman.

[–]jadedlonewolf89 38 points39 points40 points 4 years ago (5 children) | Copy Link

That already happened and then got changed back because when women were held to the same physical standards as men to many women were failing their physical fitness tests.

[–]Right_Pepe 21 points22 points23 points 4 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

I wish they will change it back. And also be willing to send female soldiers to the front line without hesistation like how they send the male soldiers.

[–]Brave-Evidence2793 1 point2 points3 points 4 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

Well, keep dreaming?

[–]Right_Pepe 2 points3 points4 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Well. For now. I fear yes unless those minister gonna stop worrying soley in their vote counts and virtue signalling. I doubt I can do shit

[–]Bovaloe 5 points6 points7 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

When were they ever held to the same standards?

[–]MedicJambi 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Not only that but women suffered a greater number of, and more severe injuries during training versus their male counterparts.nn4n

[–]REGATIE 111 points112 points113 points 4 years ago (17 children) | Copy Link

how about no one gets drafted

[–]peter_venture 123 points124 points125 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

As long as it's men only that's not going to change.

[–]intactUS_throwaway 62 points63 points64 points 4 years ago (5 children) | Copy Link

That's supposed to be the end game here.

My cynical side has serious doubts, of course... but if the girls have to go too, it tends to be seen far less favourably for anyone to be sent that way.

[–]dependency_injector 11 points12 points13 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Every fourth drafted person is a woman

[–]Possession_Think 2 points3 points4 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

If we thought we had a population decrease problem now well the draft would make that way worse. How are people supposed to have kids when they're being made into soldiers

[–]LettuceBeGrateful 3 points4 points5 points 4 years ago* (2 children) | Copy Link

#SaveOurGirls

Edit: I think people might've missed the sarcasm in my comment.

[–]intactUS_throwaway 20 points21 points22 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

If that's what it takes to save our boys...

[–]Right_Pepe 3 points4 points5 points 4 years ago* (0 children) | Copy Link

SaveOurYouth is better

Edit: Oops. Miss it. Sorry

[–]Respect38 16 points17 points18 points 4 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

This is definitely a step in that direction.

[–]peter_venture 13 points14 points15 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Of course, because women might get hurt.

[–]zaner500 -3 points-2 points-1 points 4 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

That's not really an option though. countries without any way to form an army just have to rely on good faith to defend themselves.

Plus most people will never even get close to drafted in their entire life. And even if they do chances are they are going to be put into logistics/supplies so the actually good volunteer soldiers can do the fighting.

I mean you can even just say "I don't want to be on the front lines"

[–]VTwinVaper 5 points6 points7 points 4 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

Yep that’s exactly how it happened in Vietnam. All those brave volunteers making sure the drafted men could happily stay back and do logistics.

I hope the sarcasm made it through. In reality about 30% of deaths in Vietnam were draftees. Better than ww2 I guess, where almost 70% of soldiers were drafted men.

[–]zaner500 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

It's almost like it's not the 70s anymore. And like you said only 30% of deaths were drafted. I didn't mean for my comment to come across as "draftees don't have to go to the front lines" because they definitely do it's just not the same as being forces into death.

[+]hardturkeycider -30 points-29 points-28 points 4 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link

I think it would be a tragedy if the men and women willing to fight all went to war and got killed off, leaving only the weak ones behind to repopulate

[–]Chudsaviet 15 points16 points17 points 4 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

Or smart ones.

[–]intactUS_throwaway 4 points5 points6 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Definitely smart ones, if you look at every single one since Korea.

[–]Home--Builder -1 points0 points1 point 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Because Napoleon, Genghis Khan and Alexander were stupid right?

[+]stupuff -11 points-10 points-9 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

...yea... If 😬😬😬🤐🤐🤐

[–]Cybralisk 67 points68 points69 points 4 years ago (15 children) | Copy Link

There is never going to be another draft, first of all a lot of the youth these days wouldn't even pass the physicals and men seem way less eager to volunteer to go die in some pointless war then they were in the 1940's-1960's. It would be very unpopular and I imagine most people would refuse.

[–]Rolder 15 points16 points17 points 4 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

The only time we’d ever even need a draft is if there was another World War of some sort. And with nukes existing, that sure as shit isn’t going to happen any time soon.

[–]ComfortablyBalanced 1 point2 points3 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

No, COVID thought me to expect anything at any moment.

[–]Greeddeath 23 points24 points25 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Yes, thats why theres draft in like, a lot countries.

About draft being a reality, maybe not in us, but if you look on Such ukraine...

[–]McFeely_Smackup 4 points5 points6 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

men seem way less eager to volunteer to go die in some pointless war

That's exactly why draft exists

[–]DrOrgasm 10 points11 points12 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Depends on how ropey shit gets with China over the next few years. They have more people than you do. You'll need the women to make up the numbers.

[–]Right_Pepe 10 points11 points12 points 4 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link

I meant. Imagine this. You are some dude in his 20s willing to serve your country. Go to some country in the middle east or something. See your squadmate get shot. Get thier limbs blown up and probally having a near death experience.

Than you return homw after all the PTSD and some feminist say you are the reason why she is oppress as she go to her AC room and type buzzfeed articles about why manspreading is evil

If that is somerhing I have to go through. I probally just desert to my enemies. Least theg will give me some stuff when I trade useful info.

It is like that US defector that got welcome by North Korea.

[–]GulchDale 10 points11 points12 points 4 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

Then have a presidential candidate unironically say women are the primary victims of war.

[–]Right_Pepe 2 points3 points4 points 4 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

Hillary?

I think it was like. Women most affected cause they lost husband and sons

And some dude were roasting her saying least they did not lost thier lifes

[–]GulchDale 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Yeah, it was Hilary. That quote and her parroting an extreme feminist idea of "the future is female". The idea behind "The future is female" is all men would be killed except for a few that would be kept for breeding.

[–]gprime 2 points3 points4 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

and I imagine most people would refuse.

I imagine most people would object. But if the last couple of years have shown anything, it is that most people will simply go along with whatever the government tells them, and surrender their rights enthusiastically when to to do so.

[–]Maddrixx 1 point2 points3 points 4 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

If you refuse you go to jail. It's why Bill Clinton fled to Canada in his youth.

[–]ComfortablyBalanced 1 point2 points3 points 4 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

I don't know about Clinton, but yeah in many countries they really will sent you to jail for dodging draft.

[–]UnconventionalXY 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Solidarity would collapse the justice system in any country: that is the only power the people have left now.

[–]reddut_gang 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

losing federal aid for not signing up is still the dumbest shit though

[–]BulldogOatmeal -2 points-1 points0 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

True. They should also pass a law saying the federal government can execute anyone for any reason, but just not use it.

[–]Mythandros 48 points49 points50 points 4 years ago (16 children) | Copy Link

I think the draft should be only for women for the next 100 years, to make up for all the time it was only men. Seems only fair and equal.

[–]name-exe_failed 23 points24 points25 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Same logic they apply to men. Good idea.

[–]MrLizard_King 17 points18 points19 points 4 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link

100? Seems a little small...

[–]Silver-Discipline550 15 points16 points17 points 4 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

How about 3000 years

[–]Snoo-76699 5 points6 points7 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

I love your optimistic thinking sir

[–]ComfortablyBalanced 2 points3 points4 points 4 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

That's a rookie number, you gotta pump those numbers up.

[–]MrLizard_King 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Lmao

[+]YesAmAThrowaway -7 points-6 points-5 points 4 years ago (9 children) | Copy Link

That's like excluding straight and white and male and female actors all to only hire black/latino/otherethnicities, lgbt actors for about the next 100 years of entertainment. It's a bullshit revenge sentiment. Sorry but this kind of rethoric is usually pedalled by the woke. Don't be like them.

[–]gprime 15 points16 points17 points 4 years ago (5 children) | Copy Link

Sorry but this kind of rethoric is usually pedalled by the woke.

That's the point...hold them to their own standard.

[–]YesAmAThrowaway -5 points-4 points-3 points 4 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link

Your reply is literally the same thing. Ever seen Gran Torino?

[–]Pencil-lamp 10 points11 points12 points 4 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link

Sir, I do not believe they are serious.

[–]YesAmAThrowaway -5 points-4 points-3 points 4 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

Consisering some of the things I witness from time to time, I plead with Poe's Law

[–]Pencil-lamp 2 points3 points4 points 4 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

Thou art forgiven, by me at least. The Reddit-gods, I cannot speak for.

[–]YesAmAThrowaway 2 points3 points4 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

One thanketh thee

[–]Xx24reminder 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

Stop trying to devide

[–]YesAmAThrowaway 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

Yeah, of course arguing against divisionist revenge politics and the endless cycle of hate coming with it is labelled as trying to divide here.

It's a hard truth to swallow, and even if it isn't our fault, responsibility or turn to be better, nothing and nobody will ever truly be ready to listen if all they see surfacing is misandrists providing screenshots of Poe's-Law-suitable commentary that paints us like we're madmen swinging our fists into the air on an empty plaza nesr Cutty Sark, where the only other company is a guy with an electronic megaphone singing of the return of Jesus Christ.

[–]Xx24reminder 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Those guys have been oppressed a long time ago, men are still being oppressed on a global scale in multiple cases.

[–]Kill_Da_Humanz 10 points11 points12 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Should’ve happened decades ago.

[–]Possession_Think 9 points10 points11 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Am woman - I'm a biig supporter of mens rights (my partner works with young dads and we're both big advocates on the subject of men being overlooked). I always hated the draft, and the idea of people being forced to fight in a war is heinous!! I hope the draft is taken out for the sake of the men who would be forced into battle.

[–]turbulance4 7 points8 points9 points 4 years ago* (4 children) | Copy Link

Just want to point out the common headline creation tactic that often leads to misinformation. "[Part of legislative body] passes bill..." means literally nothing. Either the House or the Senate will pass bills all the time knowing full well their other half is going to turn it down. I'd even go so far as to say one house will often only pass a bill if they can feel assured the other will reject it. They want to accrue as many virtue points as possible, while not actually changing any laws.

[–]Razorbladekandyfan 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link

The NDAA is a must pass legislation that passes every year.

[–]turbulance4 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

Must pass, but the Senate can strike out the bit about adding women to the draft and send it back?

[–]Razorbladekandyfan 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

They can strike the language of women registering yes. Lets hope that won't happen. They can't send back the whole bill though. It will just be signed in without women in the draft, worst case scenario.

[–]turbulance4 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

worst case scenario.

worst case, but most likely?

[–]Ellianel 5 points6 points7 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

It is the only way to abolish obligatory register.

[–]IronJohnMRA 2 points3 points4 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Still gotta get through the Senate.

[–]reddut_gang 2 points3 points4 points 4 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link

one step closer to abolishing it as a whole

[–]mypasswordisnot38838 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link

No country can abolish it,it’s the truth

[–]reddut_gang 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

canada?

[–]mypasswordisnot38838 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

I think that if a big war happened they would still draft.

[–]reddut_gang 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

I personally think the days of a draft in canada are over. that said you can be sure they will have tons of propaganda.

[–]JannTosh12 1 point2 points3 points 4 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

It’s conservatives who are against this. This Chip Roy dude is going crazy over it on his Twitter https://mobile.twitter.com/chiproytx/status/1442854636424208390

Other Republicans are crying about potentially drafting “sisters, daughters and wives” but sons are Ok I guess?

Write to your Republican representatives that either we should have equality or no draft at all

[–]Razorbladekandyfan 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

THIS

[–]LordMandrews 1 point2 points3 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Honestly not sure how to feel about this one. I'd rather there just not be a selective service or draft. I guess this is better than the current arrangement. Also, I can't read the article to get a sense of how it would be implemented or how it was received or how it came about. Lousy paywalls.

[–]YesAllCatsReally 1 point2 points3 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Sure, now that war is less and less about massive boots on ground, and more and more about controlling drones and missiles from afar. Perfect timing. (not to say boots on ground aren't important, they are)

[–]Xx24reminder 1 point2 points3 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

LMAOOO

[–]Drunkensquidman 1 point2 points3 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

LMAOOOO

LET THE SHIT SHOW BEGIN

[–]AdComprehensive1312 3 points4 points5 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Seeing all these articles pop up with pissed off women is hilarious.

[–]f4z3ultr1x 9 points10 points11 points 4 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link

This is a step for equality. but in the wrong way. the draft itself should be removed

[–]Astrum91 55 points56 points57 points 4 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

Let's be real here. The fastest way to remove the draft is to require women to sign up for it. That's the only way to get enough people to care about there being a draft in order to have it removed.

Anything that only affects men will be entirely ignored.

[–]isolatediety 3 points4 points5 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

The amount of truth females don't see here

[–]az226 1 point2 points3 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

It’s the right way, RBG style.

[–]UnconventionalXY 1 point2 points3 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Achieve non-discrimination and the rest will naturally follow.

[–]Ivabighairy1 4 points5 points6 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Going to be a “pandemic” (sorry, couldn’t resist) of teen pregnancies.

[–]El_Psy_Congroo4477 2 points3 points4 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Equal rights means equal responsibilities. This should have happened the second women gained the right to vote.

[–]DouglasWallace 1 point2 points3 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Now let's see how many women want equality.

[–]cosmosv2 1 point2 points3 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Last time there was a draft all the men went first. In fairness next draft all the women should go first. Equality.

[–]Based_Hootless 2 points3 points4 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Anyone who has been in the military knows this means absolutely nothing.

[–]Caivo 1 point2 points3 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Just the one woman?

[–]This-Icarus 1 point2 points3 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Would have been better to remove the draft tbh, when women are in combat roles with males the entire squad performs worse.

I think combat should be male only.

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[–]jadedlonewolf89 3 points4 points5 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

IMO It’s worth a chuckle or three, the situation was already bad enough with the people who were there and dedicated to their profession, It’s going to be so much worse with a bunch of men and women who don’t want to be there. Will be a nightmare if some of those same people make it into OCS.

[–]nanan00 1 point2 points3 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Being signed up to vote should be through the draft registration. The problem would quickly fix itself.

[–]TRDPaul 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

It's about time

[–]ZS_1171 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

hell yeah they just doubled our army

[–]mypasswordisnot38838 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Based

[+]GJ00 -8 points-7 points-6 points 4 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

There not going to be an all out war, So this means nothing.

And judging from some peoples rhetoric who had arguments against it, Daughter>Sons in general

[–]GrimnirBjorn 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

If you think america isn't going to go to war against china for Taiwan then you are blind

[–]Rivershots -1 points0 points1 point 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

just get rid of the fucking draft.

[–]JupitrominoRazmatazz -4 points-3 points-2 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

You don't even need the draft, we have prisons full of people willing to fight a war to get out

[–]LaurelsOfDante -1 points0 points1 point 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Awful. What does it say about our society that wants to send its women into battle? These feminists are a woman's worst enemies.

[+]woodenmask -22 points-21 points-20 points 4 years ago (22 children) | Copy Link

I actually prefer that men be the only ones drafted. Women have children, men go to war. Seems normal to me I always get downvoted when I post stuff like this, but whatever. Call me old fashioned, lol

[–]False_Rhythms 19 points20 points21 points 4 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

So woman belong in the kitchen, barefoot and pregnant?

[–]woodenmask -5 points-4 points-3 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Well given the choice, I'd Rather have them in the house rather than fighting a war... You want a society filled with women who have war trauma? That would be bad for everyone

[–]hampuskarlsson03 7 points8 points9 points 4 years ago (17 children) | Copy Link

But those men also have children…

[–]woodenmask -2 points-1 points0 points 4 years ago (16 children) | Copy Link

Yes And men are not good mothers.

[–]hampuskarlsson03 7 points8 points9 points 4 years ago (13 children) | Copy Link

And your saying women are better fathers than men?

[–]woodenmask -1 points0 points1 point 4 years ago (12 children) | Copy Link

No, but I am saying that mothers are more important to a kids development than fathers in early childhood

[–]peter_venture 8 points9 points10 points 4 years ago (11 children) | Copy Link

No they aren't. We just think that because it's the only experience we have. If Dad stays home and does all the stereotypical things stay at home Moms do and Mom works long hours to support everyone, the kids turn out the same way.

[–]woodenmask -5 points-4 points-3 points 4 years ago (10 children) | Copy Link

Women are generally more emotional available and caretaking. Men can do it, but not as well as a good woman.

[–]peter_venture 6 points7 points8 points 4 years ago (9 children) | Copy Link

Sorry, but this is only because wo.en are allowed to be more emotionally available. And I disagree about the caretaking. There are a lot of men who are better caretakers than the mother of their child. They just don't have the opportunity as much to do it exclusively. Women are not innately better parents than men.

[–]woodenmask 1 point2 points3 points 4 years ago (8 children) | Copy Link

In general. Of course there are exceptions. It's hormones bro. Oxytocin being one of them, estrogen another. It's basic biology and evolution. Again, that doesn't mean that a man can't learn and become good at it. It's just not as innate. Which is why men should fight in wars and women should raise the kids if necessary. It's what the species has to evolved to do. Survival and procreation

[–]peter_venture 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (7 children) | Copy Link

I agree that men are stronger and need to carry out the more physical tasks. But women need to pull their own weight too. They need to be drafted just like men, then given tasks more suited to their gender. But no getting out of it just because they are female.

[–]GrimnirBjorn 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

And women aren't good father's

[–]woodenmask 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Exactly

[–]Pencil-lamp -3 points-2 points-1 points 4 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

Mm, yeah. “I don’t hate women, but” in a situation like a war that would necessitate a draft, form is less important than function, and equality is a luxury. If every citizen is a soldier, what are they protecting? The flag? Congress? I can’t imagine a male soldier would agree to protect a country that would put his wife on the battlefield. Additionally, there will always be inequality in that the women can just get pregnant. I get that they would too, it’s an easy way out of bloody combat. How would you make this more “equal”? Forbid draft-ready women from having children if the country reaches a certain DEFCON? Lastly, lets assume the US is all out warring with China. What are the chances they’ll bother with Geneva Conventions? A hundred years after the Germans let poisonous gas blow in the wind, what chemical weapons does China have? If you put women, who are EVOLUTIONARILY more societally valuable and less physically capable assets, on the front lines, the US’ ability to rebuild assuming victory would be greatly inhibited. To say nothing of a loss. China is why I want my own country to get nuclear weaponry.

[–]woodenmask -2 points-1 points0 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Exactly. Men's rights doesn't mean that there is no difference between men and women. Men should fight and women should raise children. We should do what we are evolutionarily built to do.

I don't want to live in a society where all the women have PTSD from war. They will pass it down to children and the men. Sounds like hell. The men are more capable of that burden. Likewise, the women bear the burden of raising a healthy society and child rearing.

Just because women can do things, doesn't mean that they should. And conversely, Just because men can be sensitive, doesn't mean they are good at motherhood.

I'm all for men's rights. And I also value women's role in society as the mothers and care takers.

[+]KeepSwedenSwedish1 points 4 years ago [recovered] (2 children) | Copy Link

Not that I defend them, but if it's required for women the register now, it's actually safer for 99% of the military.

Women in military positions are a liability to the rest of the soldiers.

Less muscle mass, less stamina, weaker against physical harm etc etc etc etc........ etc etc etc...

[–]MrElderwood 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

Thing is, the RadFems have been claiming that those reasons are false and misogynistic for years... Let's see how they react now, eh?

[–]MattTheBruce 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Dammit! Now I can't just shut feminists down for not registering for the draft!

[–]mypasswordisnot38838 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

👍🏼👍🏼👍🏼👍🏼

[+]Dapper_Lake -12 points-11 points-10 points 4 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

I did some reading, and there was literally only a single feminist that opposed this. every other feminist was all for it. please ffs read before you open your stupid gob.

[–]Dapper_Lake -3 points-2 points-1 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

The one feminist opposing

> https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/legislation-require-women-men-sign-potential-draft/story?id=79013594

[–]ApprehensiveMail8 -1 points0 points1 point 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Yes!

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