Women can complain about the dating market all they want and receive support, but men are shamed.

Mrs_Drgree · 2021-11-20T13:01:01+00:00

No rants

SwinginPastMyKnees_ · 2021-11-20T06:33:53+00:00

Personally, I wouldn't want to have those empty words of support. One of the top comments is along the lines of: "Don't worry. You'll find your handsome man!".

What good does that do? She could be 300+ pounds and people are giving her a false sense of hope. And she'll sit on her butt and wait for this hypothetical handsome man to show up and give her the relationship she deserves.

Sure, people are harsher to men, especially online. But even "you're not owed a gf" can at least motivate someone to figure out why so he can do something about it.

neetykeeno · 2021-11-20T06:37:43+00:00

One of the rules of r/vent is be kind to other Redditors. And people...are being kind to her.

resultsmatter1 · 2021-11-20T06:43:25+00:00

Good on that sub but OP is correct. A man complaining about the dating market in almost all situations gets told to stop crying and be better by literally everyone

Mimoxs · 2021-11-20T07:11:58+00:00

If you do a key word search of that sub, you find posts borderline identical to this one, in which they respond to men the same way. Did you even think this through

xQueen-Bx · 2021-11-20T11:52:07+00:00

omg stop looking to women to "support" your failures at banging them. go support each other no ines stopping you

dbz19 · 2021-11-20T07:10:51+00:00

Anytime a man complains about not being able to find single women, or even dare desiring gasp sex, he is screamed at by a mob of women saying that "he isn't owed sex" and "he isn't entitled to a girlfriend".

To be honest, I've found in real life, people (especially women) are way more sympathetic to these kinds of complaints from men and will try to offer to set you up with someone.

I think the whole angry response of "you're not entitled to sex" is mostly a response you get in online conversations, probably cause the people responding to those are feminists with a bone to pick with men in general, or looking to start an argument, I don't know. But there's a noticeable gap between the response you get irl and the response you get in anonymous online forums like reddit.

Valuable-Ant6808 · 2021-11-20T07:32:24+00:00

If you look at all the posts here on this sub

goatismycopilot · 2021-11-20T11:00:20+00:00

Men aren't complaining because they cannot get a GF. They want casual sex.

Women complain that they cannot find a BF but they are often guilty of trying to reframe losers and douche bros into partner material and it is not working.

AreOut · 2021-11-20T07:21:13+00:00

Maybe she likes those guys BECAUSE they have a girlfriend. It's called preselection and it's often subconscious so she isn't maybe even aware of it.

Pola_Lita · 2021-11-20T06:44:50+00:00

Seems that you've got a reputation over there, Badger.

Siukslinis_acc · 2021-11-20T10:18:52+00:00

It could be the language that was used to say it, Basically, the way you word your complain.

It might be that women tend to use a less vulgar language. Vulgar language is usually seen as negative, so by using vulgar language you "charge" the message with negativity.

In the inked complaint, she just complains that all the guys she develops crushes on are already taken. Her complain is not about the gyus having SOs. She complains about herself for the "ability" to develop crushes on people that are already "taken". Also, her not wanting to go for guys whoalready have an SO is deemed "virtuous"/moral thing to do.

When men on PPD complain about dating they usually say "it's the women's fault" that women only want "chad". Their mesage feels more like an attack.

A woman can make her bio a list of demands on a dating site and people call it having standards, while a man can say he wants to have a wife who has sex with him once a year and they'll call him entitled.

If the man's only requirement is sex (no matter how frequent), in my opinion, it's deemed as "low level" and tells only that you want sex and nothing else.

throwwie234 · 2021-11-20T12:30:22+00:00

No one is shaming men with honourable intentions. The ones that want to have a loving girlfriends and a wholesome relationship.

Men that only care about sex with hot bimbos? Yes, they're are shamed and it should be like that. Usually men like that would have a normal girlfriend if only they wanted, but are too ugly and poor for no strings attached sex with a bimbo. So sad :(

Wonderful_Desk · 2021-11-20T12:57:23+00:00

This is full of bad faith arguments and projection. And false equivalences soley due to a lack of understanding why people behave the way they do

SleepingBoomer · 2021-11-20T07:56:23+00:00

I mean I don't disagree; Men (ESPECIALLY in "Liberal" Western Society; which is extremely ironic lol); are treated like genetic garbage if they can't attract women. And it literally comes from every faction (both Right Leaning and Left Leaning sources blast "loser" Men all day everyday).

But this is also true in every context (not just dating); "Women are the primary victims of war" - Hilary Clinton. When they talk about homelessness it's "1 in 4 Women are homeless" (what about the other 3 lmao).

It's YOUR fault that a Woman can't walk the streets of a bad neighborhood at night; by simple virtue of being born with a penis. Never you mind that Men are statistically far more likely to be a victim of almost any violent crime (with the exception of sexual assault; which STILL happens more to Men who are incarcerated).

Mental Health, Work/Economics, the Justice System, Domestic Violence, Educational Opportunities. The list goes on; Women consistently get opportunities and "a hand up" from they system/society while Men are (if you don't have resources) pretty much just left to die in the street.

And this isn't a "Woe is me" post; this is just honestly how I see Western Society. It is what it is; you either adapt or end up like the dudes on the street.

flapperfemmefatale · 2021-11-20T06:49:54+00:00

Where in her post is there a list of demands for another human being?

ruboyuri · 2021-11-20T10:31:18+00:00

Men complain about women all the time and always have. They’re just usually ruder and cruder about it, so it’s not for polite conversation

Women can just do it openly because men will still fuck them, and we tend to use fewer slurs

handemande1 · 2021-11-20T07:14:30+00:00

The most hateful people on “I hate being lonely” posts are TRP/MGTOW men, the men who are “looking out for other men”. Block emotions you beta, etc.

Salt_Mathematician24 · 2021-11-20T09:32:19+00:00

Tbh I think it's because men predominantly want sex that is frowned upon. Its seen as shallow and exploitative. Especially because it's mainly only for them to get off. Women's sexuality is more holistic and thus more humanizing.

insertcredit2 · 2021-11-20T07:01:57+00:00

Women are viewed as having value just by existing so when they are not selected by the men they desire it means that they have less value than other women and they can't compete.

Men are viewed as a having relatively low intrinsic value and able to build value. You know the whole "just be rich, successful, intelligent, charismatic and charming bro" so men don't get empathy they get told to increase their value.

Cookiecuttermaxy · 2021-11-20T07:49:29+00:00

Probably because men want sex 24/7 while women want more to relationships than just sex and intimacy?

When I say men, I mean thirsty simps

Philip8000 · 2021-11-20T07:26:35+00:00

When I complained about it years ago, I was told to do the world a favor and kill myself. Until then, I'd never heard the term "incel". It may not be a universal experience, but it's an all-too-common one.

JacobMoogberg69 · 2021-11-20T06:59:51+00:00

Men are shamed only when they refuse to take responsibility for their dating lives because they prefer to blame everyone and their mom but themselves for their lack of romantic success. Maybe it's unfair, but at least men can do something about it. They can change their attitude, take the initiative, be a leader. Even confident women with high self esteem (a woman with high self esteem hahahahhahahahha) have extreme trouble approaching and taking initiative. It's just the way it is. Life is not fair.

Thinkingard · 2021-11-20T11:41:07+00:00

One of the truths about life you learn as you get older is that hypocrisy and double-standards are the norm. Women will always be able to get away with certain things men can't and vice versa. Same goes for Democrats getting away with things Republicans can't, whites getting away with things blacks can't, the rich can get away with stuff the poor can't, the beautiful vs the ugly, and vice versa to all.

Only an individual can overcome double-standards by choosing equality in their own judgment. The culture may change over time, but only at the influence of a mass of individuals. However, certain double-standards appear to be permanent and it's best to simply accept their reality.

Women are allowed more emotional autonomy since no one cares if a woman looks weak or strong. Men, on the other hand, have to appear strong/stable, even when they become emotionally vulnerable through complaint. I believe it is the job of more mature and experienced people who are close to the individuals OP referenced to disabuse these women of their entitlement, if it is merited. Mostly people want to be heard, to be validated, not to have a solution in hand. I conclude that too many people are isolated and seek solutions online with anonymous strangers. Relationships are too complex to be solved online.

taapy234 · 2021-11-20T08:02:49+00:00

Why would you want to change sides with women?

The downsides of being a man is, yes you get told to go pound stand, stop being a wuss, stop complaining, etc etc. Atleast that translates into guys (hopefully) improving their game. There are downsides to being a man that we see in dating, law, etc but once you are redpilled, you can confidently start to work on yourself and build a life for yourself in your own terms without gynocentrism or the blue cuck ideology infested shits encroaching on your stated goals, or your hard work or your wealth you accumulated.

Women in general basically get treated with kid gloves and are coddled, and get told nice socially accepted lies to comfort their feeeeeeels. These things only work for as long as their youth and fertility exists. Next thing you know, they will receive that average treatment and face the horrors of being invisible (which is still not even close to average man treatment).

Trust me, you don't want to switch sides. When life hands you a lemon, make a lemonade.

There's a reason why calling someone a pussy is so effective (even other women use it) even in 2021 whereas calling someone a dick is like a middle school insult.

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Suspicious-Watch9681 · 2021-11-20T07:43:31+00:00

Lol as someone else said, all that support they're receiving is more harmful to them than helpful, it just increases their already delusional mindset and soon find themselves 40 years old with 5 cats and single complaining on tiktok

Title	Women can complain about the dating market all they want and receive support, but men are shamed.
Author	Depressedbadger97
Upvotes	55
Comments	102
Date	November 20, 2021 6:14 AM UTC (4 years ago)
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