Male loneliness mocked on SNL's Man Park Sketch as women take their men to a park to meet other men.

pappo4ever · 2021-11-15T04:35:32+00:00

I think it's great to use humor to focus into men's problems. If not for this sketch, nobody would talk about men loneliness. The article is trash, though. It ends blaming men for women issues, as usual.

Robbo_Rotto · 2021-11-15T04:28:40+00:00

Men incredibly lonely, women worst affected.

yoitsericc · 2021-11-15T12:21:20+00:00

The article had me up until the toxic masculinity part.

Seriously? You think men are lonely because of toxic masculinity? We're lonely because of a decades long erosion of male spaces and because traditional institutions have been engineered to isolate and weaken men to the point that we no longer feel confident enough to connect and make friends.

Men struggle with loneliness because society isolates and shames them making them the butt of most jokes, especially the stupid, bumbling father trope which is overplayed and insulting.

We also sacrifice everything for our families including our social lives and our hobbies. We are told we need to make these sacrifices in order to be seen as worthy of marriage and children - otherwise we are seen as useless incels unfit for any of it.

Trash take, but the sketch sounds like it had some good perspective on this issue.

ubertrashcat · 2021-11-15T08:10:10+00:00

the hidden epidemic of toxic masculinity and how it hurts both women and men

Isn't the war on toxic masculinity precisely how we got here?

Inevitable_Brain9852 · 2021-11-15T05:48:37+00:00

So I read a good chunk of the article.

And what I got off it was, the woman who have husbands who spend all their time with them. Are unhappy the men choose to talk to them instead of the boys. So they made a park so they can have male friends.

But were we not also told by certain other women we can’t have male friends.

So which is it. Do you want us to spend all our time with you or not?

DekajaSukunda · 2021-11-15T17:26:30+00:00

"Masculinity makes it hard to form bonds with other men"

Bullshit. Masculinity makes it easier. Historically men's friendships with each other have lasted much longer than women's. Men had an easier time getting along with other men than women did.

The demonization of male spaces and the rise of the internet and video games made men prefer lonely activities such as those, and forming online communities instead of real-life friendships.

Portraying men as bumbling idiotic children that need other idiotic children to yell "Rick!" and "Morty!" at doesn't help. We need to remind men of the strength and power our bonds have historically had. We need to empower men to reclaim their friendships as a positive thing.

Feminism's insistence on belittling, condescending, infantilizing and villifying men doesn't help at all and only makes men's issues (and, arguably, even women's issues) worse.

To all the men in this sub, go out and form more friendships with men. They are positive, they are great. You're missing out on a lot. We are mature. We are smart. We are interesting. We are usually even better listeners than women. Male friendships are nothing and have never been anything like the stupidity depicted in this video.

mistralol · 2021-11-15T09:18:11+00:00

Men absolutely do need to rebuild their own forms of community together. The collapse of local community as catalogued in books like Bowling Alone had a disproportionately bad effect on men and on men's mental health.

But the idea of women supervising men at a park like they're dogs? Fuck that.

jarmbur · 2021-11-15T10:54:36+00:00

Imagine the opposite skit being done. Men taking their women to women parks. I'm pretty sure there would be riots and protests. SNL would probably get cancelled. But it's okay since it's making fun of men because as men we can take a joke and laugh at ourselves.

Rol9x · 2021-11-15T18:39:36+00:00

SNL is shit anyway.

throwaway20210821 · 2021-11-15T19:52:03+00:00

There was also another skit recently on SNL making fun of male virgins

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=21Ki96Lsxhc

The recent timing of both of these events seems like a form of baiting vulnerable men for attention. A lot of media has been doing this and it's one of the reasons why the credibility and seriousness of the media is no longer as much as it used to be.

russlo · 2021-11-15T14:45:04+00:00

My wife played this for me without fanfare after dinner, out of the blue, right after we sat on the couch. I know it's toxic to think this, but I am hurt, and I can't help but thinking "if you don't want me to talk to you when you come home, that's fine." Compare me to a dog, liken me to a child that needs a play date, tell me that the friends I want to make aren't up to your ridiculous standards, and then to top it all off, to say that me being happy she's home is causing her emotional labor? Yeah, I know, my marriage is definitely "going places."

I'm going to cancel my previously scheduled appointment with my female therapist and process this alone, because I don't want to talk to anyone right now, least of all a woman that's also married that is also probably laughing at this. I don't want to talk to our "mutual" friends right now either, because she had been hanging out with them all day and they all no doubt had a good laugh at my expense. I felt alone before, now I just feel isolated as fuck.

So many men online saying "This is a great idea!" and not even ruminating on the thought that they just got compared to dogs - they're lapping it up, while their spouses lament all of the hard work of ... checks notes ... just listening to someone.

Happy fucking Movember, everyone. Let's all just satirise male loneliness right before the loneliest time of the year, what's wrong with that?

Fuck you, SNL. All of the men that participated in this skit should be ashamed of themselves.

isleno · 2021-11-16T00:06:07+00:00

And then the article is even worse. "Men lonely. Women most impacted." Can talking about men's issues be focused on men for once?

mattypea · 2021-11-15T07:19:13+00:00

The reason we don't go out to meet friends is because they get upset when we do

rabel111 · 2021-11-15T20:20:19+00:00

Sexist pigs only rally feel empowered when they infantise their men. Small thoughts of sexist pigs.

Legitimate-Ad-6267 · 2021-11-15T17:20:41+00:00

I feel like you could just as easily argue the sketch is great as you could argue it's terrible.

... until you get to the "emotional burden" part.

VincentZ6 · 2021-11-15T20:16:38+00:00

Reason number 1549 not to get into a committed relationship with a women. Worst case scenario prepare to be emotionally abused by her fighting and stating you can't talk to other people only to be later shamed by the same women who thinks you spend too much time with her. In the slightly better scenario have women who selfishly mock you for your loneliness seeing you as pathetic but regardless of your mental state expect you to be their therapist. If you're desperate and understand the risks go ahead and fuck them but don't ever open up to one. Get a dog, a dog is more empathetic and understanding than the modern woman could ever be and won't betray you or use your words against you. Also fuck the misandrist media, should boycott this trash.

ElegantDecline · 2021-11-15T11:11:32+00:00

Imagine if the genders were switched on this one 😂🤣😅

RedditMadeMeReddit · 2021-11-15T10:44:24+00:00

Society could survive without journalists making hit pieces about things which have nothing to do with their own lives.

Society would not survive without people in the trades.

ReliopsWen · 2021-11-15T14:32:11+00:00

Of course the article blames men, even though a good bot of male loneliness is caused by manipulative partners cutting men off from their friends.

Melohdy · 2021-11-15T10:48:23+00:00

I do not have any friends. I have co-workers, childhood friends that have become a stranger over the years, family and my dog.

I don't know how to make friends anymore. I have no common interests, because I have no time for hobbies. I do not like traditional men's things.

That SNL pokes fun a the pain of men shows how little society regards us. The future truly is female, it would seem. Disappointing.

bluesydragon · 2021-11-15T06:44:43+00:00

ahh and taylor swift ...

that woman has used feminisms to deflect criticism and uses it to inflate her personal tantrums with other artists into feminist issues while dragging women like Tina fey and Amy for making a joke about her ...at the golden globes,

every personal capitalist issue of hers is a feminist issue but never makes every feminist issue a personal one.

CarHungry · 2021-11-15T16:05:16+00:00

Wouldn't the nearest gender equivalent to this be like dropping your overweight gf off at a gym or something? Snl hasn't been funny for a long time, if it ever was funny to begin with.

coffeeinvenice · 2021-11-15T09:13:03+00:00

I didn't know anyone watched SNL anymore.

SNL has always been kind of like the North Korea of comedy. The sketches aren't very funny, the guest hosts never memorize their lines and have to read them off cue cards, and there's usually ten minutes of commercials at the end before they come back and say good night. General quality is so-so, but nobody ever calls them out on it for fear of appearing "uncool".

Their attitude has always been, "its funny because we say it's funny, and if you don't think so, you're uncool." They have been gaslighting their audience for decades.

Mike_Hunt_is_itchy · 2021-11-15T09:22:59+00:00

I have lost so many friends and gone months without hearing from others when their partner refuses them to go out with their mates, even when they are the sole reason for the couple meeting.

Or having friends not show because the GF argues right before said meet up, only for the guy to show his face weeks later when he realised what's happening or once they are broken up or on a break its ridiculous.

Before ppl say well get better friends I agree, I never did this and find it a shit move but can also see how and why guys feel trapped, like your partner is meant to be your best friend but still these same women go out on a Thursday for a girls night and would crucify you for complaining.

So for them to make light if this and numerous other situations just show the mind games women play regularly and its disgraceful that they don't get called out more on this nonsense.

lethatsinkin · 2021-11-15T11:30:39+00:00

Switch the genders around. Does it seem sexist? Then it was sexist in the first place. How hard is it for people to understand?

jmcsquared · 2021-11-15T15:45:32+00:00

They think they're helping, highlighting men's "loneliness," but they're not. They are only outing themselves as not willing to be interested in their husbands' thoughts and ideas.

Batbuckleyourpants · 2021-11-15T04:30:16+00:00

They weren't mocking men. It is satire. The article even point it out. Using humor to make a social commentary is not mocking.

Like the best satire, there's an element of sadness and discomfort in the truth behind the jokes. When one guy (Andrew Dismukes) learns another guy (Aristotle Athari) at the man park loves Bo Burnham, he's so overcome that he immediately grabs the other guy in a hug and asks him to be his best man. It's an absurd moment in the "Man Park" sketch, but underscores how desperate so many men are to make a genuine connection with another guy that they'll latch on to even the most minor of shared interests.

cuccurucucu-paloma · 2021-11-15T07:31:47+00:00

The sketch was ok in my opinion, it highlights an important thing by making fun of it in a good way. The beautiful part in my opinion is that the partners are supportive of the men, but they are just tired out. Unfortunately many women aren't supportive of what they consider "childish" hobbies and berate their partner even for spending one night gaming with friends.

I would say that the sad virgins one was more offensive if we really want to feel offended. With all the anti-slutshaming going around i don't understand why making fun of virgins is still fair. It's tiring.

OctaviaPinfold · 2021-11-15T13:03:25+00:00

So, fixing problems that don't exist by trying to shape half the population into an image from the minds of the other half who don't actually know what they want somehow creates problems? Who would've guessed.

Maybe just let men be men, with all the similarities and differences men come with among each other? Isn't that what we're supposed to do with every other gender?

JedahVoulThur · 2021-11-15T13:51:18+00:00

I haven't watched the sketch, but I think humour should have no barriers, who are you? SJW that think people shouldn't make a joke about certain issues? The hypocresy! I find some cancer (the illness) jokes fun, even though I lost my mother to it, some goth jokes fun even though I am from that subculture and some feminist jokes fun even if they mock my gender. What I'm trying to say is, don't be a pussy, if the joke is good, laught at it, it doesn't matter if it "punches down" or up, or to the middle.

coloradocaniac · 2021-11-15T08:48:18+00:00

Here in my left palm I have the names of all the "friends" who've done anything about my depression and loneliness.

Said palm is as empty as their lives.

Mythandros · 2021-11-15T16:45:31+00:00

I remember when SNL was actually funny, not a pile of steaming SJW shit.

DrBeePhD · 2021-11-15T04:23:56+00:00

Did you read the article?

flatty407 · 2021-11-15T11:55:16+00:00

I mean it's a comedy show, what'd you expect?

jacobmakesmovies · 2021-11-15T12:07:11+00:00

Alright fellas, it’s No Nuance November, react to this with no nuance!

Voidembracer · 2021-11-15T14:27:58+00:00

It pays to be female tribalist and anti-male in global capitalism, that's why we need Stalinist Communism.

sohappyred · 2021-11-16T01:12:36+00:00

It's comedy, i never take this kinda thing seriously.

It's an art, so it's excluded by myself for scrutiny

EnvironmentalWar4627 · 2021-11-15T03:20:26+00:00

Everybody wants to get offended by everything these days.

rom_sk · 2021-11-15T12:12:27+00:00

Sometimes humor is sexist (meaning: gross generalizations are made about a group based upon their sex/gender for affect). If this really bothers you, you may be a bit too easily offended -- and you should probably avoid listening to some of the funniest comedians working today (Bill Burr, Louis CK, Dave Chappelle, etc.)

diegggs94 · 2021-11-15T13:57:13+00:00

Y’all are all bent out of shape over a fucking South Park skit. This sub used to be about resources, uplifting men, movements. Now it’s just incessant bitching from those with external loci of control

TodBurns01 · 2021-11-16T07:35:23+00:00

grow a pair

reddut_gang · 2021-11-16T22:00:29+00:00

sketch lacks nuance or any critical understanding of the complex issue that is the growth in male loneliness.

No-Feedback7437 · 2021-11-17T06:15:12+00:00

SNL is not funny just stupid my loneliness is because I am trying to protect myself against mindless idiots who try to use me for sadistic purposes

WatercressCreative33 · 2021-11-17T11:22:15+00:00

Did you see the music video "3 sad virgins" and how they literally joke about them dying alone? How is that not toxic masculinity? They would literally NEVER make a music video joking about lonely women and them dying alone

Casanova-Quinn · 2021-11-20T20:07:17+00:00

Ironically, if these "Man Parks" existed and were popular, eventually women would complain about them too, just like any another existing "male space". Women are simultaneously creating the problem and criticizing the solution. The only way for men to get out of this paradox is to grow some balls and say "No, this is our space". Women have no problem doing this for themselves, for example some gyms have "women only" areas, or entire gyms (Curves). If women can say "no", so can men.

Redddithatesfreedom · 2021-11-15T21:38:52+00:00

Parody isn't mockery, just FYI. I thought it was hilarious and a totally accurate way of how me, a guy in a long term relationship who struggles making new friends, gets stuck in the house earning money and doesn't have many good outlets for social interaction.

AlienAmerican1 · 2021-11-15T16:32:25+00:00

I love at the end, "Women get in free", I don't think is as much a "man bash" as it might come off at first.

Male loneliness mocked on SNL's Man Park Sketch as women take their men to a park to meet other men.

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Title	Male loneliness mocked on SNL's Man Park Sketch as women take their men to a park to meet other men.
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