You constantly hear women say this in response to men complaining about how hard dating it is for men, or sometimes out of nowhere. It’s really sort of bizarre how ubiquitous this phraseology has become, that there is any significant number of (if any) men who actually think this.
I think one of the common supporting arguments they make to support this narrative is “taking a girl out to a nice dinner isn’t an exchange for sex.” This is a gross misrepresentation, men get upset that women would accept one or multiple fancy dinners with zero intention of pursuing anything romantic. Obviously if there’s no chemistry or the date doesn’t go well no one is under any obligation, although the idea of buying a girl dinner for a first date is sort of antiquated and ridiculous anyway.
Nevertheless, this is only one such example. I see this statement bandied about far more often independent of the context of buying a woman dinner. It is almost always sort of a knee jerk reaction to men grieving about how picky and stuck up women act in response to genuine attention attempts to strike up a conversation or get to know them. I am NOT just talking about “ugly” or even average guys, women will eye f$&k the shit out of you then go cold when you finally work up the balls to approach.
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Men are not entitled to women's bodies or sex.
Women are not entitled to a man's time, attention, money or resources.
Yet you'd never know it.
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Another favorite of mine:
PPD: Men leave women when they get sick.
Me: Women leave men when they lose their jobs.
PPD: She didn't choose to get sick.
Me: He didn't choose to lose his job.
PPD: :crickets:
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There is a difference between losing a job through no fault of your own and behaving as if your new job is to get a job and either losing a job through laziness or poor behavior and / or sitting around playing video games and failing to aggressively seek a new job.
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Women get what they need and what they want.
When they get their fingers burned in the process, they get boo hoo tea and sympathy.
Men try to get what they need and want too.
But often, they get called predators for doing so - and if a MAN gets something burned, he doesn't get tea and sympathy - he gets ridiculed.
Shame is a very powerful tool that is used to keep men in line and keep the "stuff" going from men to women. And I call that stuff
Time, Money and Energy
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"Can't get laid" shaming doesn't work on men? It ruins men's lives.
Um, I'm just reporting the facts. Nobody said the current system is good or going in a direction anyone can call good.
Society seems to want to destroy itself. I don't think I can stop it.
And the middle class continues to shrink and the rich get richer and the poor get poorer and...
We live in an instant gratification society. People have chosen instant comfort over long term security believing in some fairy tale that someone else will be there at the end providing the security. Women, in particular, have good reason to believe this will happen for them.
Yep. Totally fucked.
Yep. Spousal support and most of child support is just covert welfare.
Do they care though? If they can't reproduce with Chad and land a betabux Brad, they've said it right here on PPD: cats will do just fine.
I think we're enslaving ourselves and looking for conspiracy theories now...
Yep. Promise women social programs and handouts and away they go to the polls.
It's their lives. I don't care how they end up. They're not my problem anymore.
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When a man says it: upvote, no pushback. When I say it: pushback and “stop blaming men!”
It’s an interesting observation.
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If you believe that women are “eye fucking the shit out of you” but then they go cold when you approach, it sounds like you’re probably misunderstood about what “eye fucking” is.
Don’t take women out to fancy dinners as a first date. Now you’ve filtered out women who only care about your wallet/a free meal.
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You’ve also filtered out attractive women with options.
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There are plenty of attractive women with options who aren’t brats.
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Attractive women with options want to be wined and dined. If you don’t do it, one of her 1,000 other matches this week sure will.
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After they are dined and whined, they can come over here to be rawdogged.
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lol, what a bratty perspective. There are tons of hotties who aren't 'too good' to grab a drink or coffee
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Sure. If you’ve got a movie they’re perfect for.
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Sounds like you might be from Cali or somewhere else where shallow expectations and even shallower personalities rot people's brains
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Lol I find this a bit hilarious because I grew up in the Los Angeles area, and my girlfriend of... 7.5 years is the daughter of a film studio exec, and I'm pretty sure that nobody would assume either of those things about us if they met us. I think the comment you are replying to is mostly just the standard PPD brain rot with lack of self-awareness that's prevalent on this sub. Or maybe I'm just being sensitive about where I grew up, lmao.
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You probably know better than me lol, I just thought it was funny that the commenter immediately assumed you had to be a scummy film producer to get drinks with a cute girl
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Lmao that's a good point. Definitely will say that LA has its share of superficial people, but I do find that those circles are going to be very insular and honestly just kinda shitty.
I'm half-kidding but I think PPD forgets there is a massive demographic that genuinely prefers to have partners that are more or less normal and wholesome people, and this demographic includes plenty of people who are very attractive. This sub laser-focuses on how scumbags get all the women, while.... Not realizing that those women also probably are not the types of people whom you want in your life anyway.
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Agreed. Any rational person looking for a serious relationship is going to avoid shallow people
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Find me an attractive woman who isn’t hopelessly shallow and manipulative.
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Easy to do if you're not an incel with no friends
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Sure it is. I work with maybe 500 women. There’s a handful of hotties and they are all identically narcissistic, superficial, conceited and usurious when it comes to men.
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Sure they are
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Women who don’t like him = narcissists.
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So it’s agreed.
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I think this is one of the most well written and well intentioned piece of advice I’ve seen on this subreddit.
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It sounds like he’s just attracted to high maintenance women who like money.
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I mean, if all the girls you date are shitty, it's a sign you should change the way you pick your dates lol
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Most women bitch about how they can't find good guys because it's difficult to wade through the human cess pit that is their tinder chat page and find someone who is a good person.
Do you think thats a problem only they have ?
Most women are shit.
Finding a good woman is just as difficult
Most of the time it's like getting a shirt You can have 2/3 at most - right sleeve length/ right shoulder width, right neck circumference. And that's a good fit.
The only difference is we don't have a cess pit to go through. We have to pick up each individual turd and taste it.
So please hold off on the most women are not shity speil.
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R/thathappened
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Perhaps I lacked your luck in the initial genetic dice roll.
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Why don’t you lot have anything to say other than “yOu’Re PrOb NoT aS gOoD lOoKiNg As YoU tHiNk” as if every grown man in here is unable to tell when a woman is attracted to him and somehow misreading their behavior.
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Nobody said anything about being unattractive, but if you think a woman is “eye fucking” you and then she goes cold when you approach, you’ve very clearly misunderstood something about the interaction. You said “women” meaning this has probably happened to you more than once.. so there’s a common denominator.
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Nice anecdote. They did a study. It’s one in three. The team conducting the study heavily imply that the results mean one in three women score high in dark triad traits.
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You’re angry at the women you choose to take on dates? Pick different women, shit.
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So, attractive women only go out with you if you go out to a fancy, expensive dinner.. you’re going out with these women.. getting burned.. and then say they’re available for a reason? So why go out with them?
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Because I have a penis with an unquenchable desire to spit milk at strange ladies.
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So you’re frustrated and angry because of things you’re doing to yourself. Thank you, I just wanted to hear you admit it.
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I don’t do that. I literally just read it and copy/pasted to you the conclusion 🤷♀️ cause it’s clear you haven’t read it.
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I read the headline. I knew it was true in my bones before I read a single word of the article.
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Very scientific method you got there.
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Ummm, people go out on dates to determine whether they are interested in pursuing something further with each other or not...
Sometimes the answer is yes, sometimes it is no, sometimes the answer is maybe and you need to spend more time together to figure it out.
Would you prefer that women reject invitations for dates from any man with whom she is not 100% certain she will have sex with (on his time table)?
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That’s what I do🤷♀️. If interested I offer, if definitely not interested, I insist.
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for now
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But would PPD women even notice a difference?
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The problem with these statements is that they never work when it's the other way around. If guys were to say "Men don't owe you attention" or "Women aren't entitled to a man's wallet, energy or resources" many women would complain about how ridiculous this mentality is. The problem is many women can dish it but not take it. If women do not owe men sex in any context men must equally not owe women affection in any context. There is no way around it. That is direct equality, anything else would be preferential. So the next time a guy kicks a women out of his house for not putting out (100% within her rights). girls should keep shut because just as that man was not entitled to her body, she is not entitled to stay in his house.
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Did you not read my OP??
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Ignore feminist strawmen and gaslighting, think of it all like a big shit-test.
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Did you not read my OP??
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how come when fds circle jerks in threads nobody pops up saying" removed no circle jerking "
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