If one group is more desperate than the other in a deal, that increases the chance of injustice happening to the desperate member of the deal.

AngeCruelle · 2024-01-13T18:26:00+00:00

Desperate for what exactly?

Yeah I might acknowledge the person with the rare Pokémon card has the power over everybody who wants it but I'm not exactly going sleep over that or call it an "injustice."

MiddleZealousideal89 · 2024-01-13T20:25:05+00:00

Does it suck that some dudes can't attract any woman even if they were giving out Sephora gift cards? Yes, it sucks. Is it an injustice? I dunno, I don't think anyone is guaranteed friendship and romantic love, those are things that require another willing participant to engage with. Do I think everyone should have access to programs that can help them improve their social skills and their mental and physical health? Yes, I think a lot of guys (and girls but we're talking about the guys here) would benefit from them, and might be able to improve their lot in (dating) life. It would be great if there were more community centers that offered a large variety of activities, people could meet others there, and they might end up making new friends or even a lady friend. But there's no soup kitchen equivalent for dating, you can't show up somewhere and be given the love and commitment of another person.

63daddy · 2024-01-13T17:48:49+00:00

Being desperate decreases the odds of getting a good deal, but that doesn’t mean the deal is “unjust” lacking in justice. One could argue that what you freely accept is just. If you decide to marry a woman who earns less than you, that’s a choice, not a miscarriage of justice.

MongoBobalossus · 2024-01-13T17:26:31+00:00

I’m not sure what your point is here. What is the “injustice” specifically?

Safinated · 2024-01-13T18:00:35+00:00

Yes. And you don’t have to take that deal. It’s all voluntary

And I will never consider me doing what I want and not doing what I don’t want an injustice

Lift_and_Lurk · 2024-01-13T19:57:56+00:00

PPD: Men are being portrayed as the villains and the bad guys!

Also PPD: Women like bad boys! No fair!

Pick one!

-Shes-A-Carnival · 2024-01-13T17:45:46+00:00

entire philosophical campaign to paint them as historical villains,

lol

Financial_Leave4411 · 2024-01-13T17:34:00+00:00

How do you think women are taking advantage of men? Men are actively choosing not to commit, marry or even pay for a date. Instead, a lot of men are just paying for OF or a prostitute, or they are going overseas. Men have lots of choices and are actively choosing not to give women what they want.

Out of curiosity, since you think men have it so bad, what do you think women are supposed to do to change that? Just have no strings attached sex with men they don’t like as part of a charity? What do you want from women to make things fair?

Snekky3 · 2024-01-13T17:42:34+00:00

Women have been painted as villains for millennia. It’s not an injustice to not receive poon.

RayRayGD · 2024-01-13T17:26:18+00:00

I think that men’s sexual strategy, preferences, and cultural/political beliefs ended up biting them in the ass. For thousands of years men kept women in a weak, inferior position, employed the Madonna whore strategy freely and misused their authority. Now it is almost culturally ingrained in women that a man should be strong and provide. Then men basically made themselves and their power obsolete through the industrial and agricultural revolution, so now men aren’t able to be economically and socially strong and competent enough to leverage sexual access from women.

So now they grovel and beg and whine because they created this transactional sexual market they’re now on the losing end off

confused_makeup · 2024-01-14T00:06:14+00:00

the sex which has had an entire philosophical campaign to paint them as historical villains,

🤣🤣 what are you talking about

had modern technology to increase their disadvantage

What are you referring to?

nature itself made them less charismatic and appealing than women

Is this your opinion of men? I've met plenty charismatic, appealing men 🤣

If you're not into men, maybe you should go for women 😂

GhostofAugustWest · 2024-01-13T18:22:14+00:00

“It’s an injustice if I can’t get laid!”

No, it’s your shitty personality, poor grooming and general asshole-ness.

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apresonly · 2024-01-13T19:19:55+00:00

yes i believe people have a moral imperative to not exploit others

that means not doing unfair deals/fucking people over

good leaders think of the weakest person in the group and make sure they are okay

and also good personal advice is to avoid being desperate because bad-intentioned people look for this and will prey on you

Tushuguanliyuan996 · 2024-01-13T18:26:57+00:00

Women are wonderful, also most men don't want to show their hand and admit they aren't Gigachads with massive social and sexual power.

The only way most men are willing to even discuss things like the dating market less still the negative side of being a man in society is by starting with a third-person disclaimer to the effect of, yeah there sure are a lot of betas and creepy incels out there now bitching about feminism and other social changes, saying how dating apps supposedly ruining womens' personalities and making them fussier and bitchier, MeToo making it hard to make passes at women on the street or at work and that shit (I mean, obviously personally, me being a sex god who matches with 10/10 19yo models every time I open Tinder I find if anything dating apps make my life better and I always gets the benefit of the doubt and in my experience the girls at work just giggle and wink at me when I slap them on the arse, so I have no direct experience with this at all), but this is what I read about recently uh... when leafing through a copy of The Guardian between my busy schedule of very hot dates. It's not easy for me to relate to a lot of guys and their dating problems, but maybe some women and society in generally are being a bit harder on these struggling guys than I realised...

If you're complaining, you're not winning. Actually identifying with complainers is to show your hand as one of the have-nots. Guys don't like doing this when it comes to less personal attributes like politics and finance, they're definitely going to be reluctant to do so when it comes to sex. It's a common trope that PPD is full of below-average men pretending they're average, but TBH a lot of guys don't even want to be thought of as average anymore.

Bouldershoulders12 · 2024-01-13T21:06:55+00:00

Supply and demand

Men control commitment Women control sex

Only gonna get worse

PowerGlove-it-so-bad · 2024-01-15T00:51:22+00:00

"dating sphere men are facing deep injustices."

You're 21 but soon you will have the pick of the crop young buck. All injustices will be righted.

Geselshaft · 2024-01-13T19:19:03+00:00

Don’t be desperate. Therefore “men”.

Seriously. Have you learned nothing in life, much less from Reddit? Women aren’t worth the energy you’re putting into it. You’re like dogs chasing parked cars. Once you get it, now what? What exactly are you slobbering about getting? A moist hole?

You’re disposable and women do not care about you, any more than a leech cares about a host. They just drop you and get on the next one.

You can whine and cry about abuse, until one day you learn that there will always be abuse, and it’s not “oppression” or that nonsense. It’s that you’re chasing a parked car. For no reason.

But keep thinking a magic “pill” will put a new coat of paint on that parked car you muppets.

It’s your fault. You’re chasing the dragon son. And you’re the only one to blame. They will not ever care about you.

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Title	If one group is more desperate than the other in a deal, that increases the chance of injustice happening to the desperate member of the deal.
Author	EveningEveryman
Upvotes	12
Comments	114
Date	January 13, 2024 5:16 PM UTC (2 years ago)
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