Hey guys.

Last weekend I was in a bar for about 3-4 hours when all three of the Simple Pickup guys were sarging. And last night I got to observe Tyler Durden in field for about 90 minutes. I know a lot of you guys are curious/suspicious about how these guys are in field, so I'm here to clear it up for you all.

First off, all of these guys are legit PUAs. However there was quite a huge skill gap between Simple Pickup and Tyler Durden.

Simple Pickup

I was out with a couple of my /r/BayAreaSeddit brothers when we ran into all three Simple Pickup guys working game in a bar. These guys run direct game. They seem to be picky with their targets (looking for the hotter girls in the bar), so it's not just spray and pray. Their MO seems to be to isolate quickly then go for deep rapport building. They didn't seem particularly state-dependent.

I did notice a couple of glaring flaws. One was that they would stay in set way too long just to get rejected when they went for make outs. It seemed like they were letting the night pass them by in exchange for a chance at physical escalation with a hottie later on. I don't know about you guys, but if I'm visiting another city and am out on the town, I'm trying to maximize my fun. I was disappointed to see them lock in and not socialize more. There were plenty of cool people in the bar worth talking to.

My guess is it comes from inexperience. Knowing when to eject to maximize your lulz/possibilities is a skill that improves over time.

The other thing I noticed was a certain level of self-doubt. I went to say hi to one of them after he was rejected and out of set (I'm not a fan of cockblocking). He immediately began to utilize run-of-the-mill AMOG destroyers. My first thought was, "Whoa, dude. You're not even with a girl right now, don't be so quick to dismiss."

It just didn't feel congruent with the qualities you'd expect from a true mPUA - self-validation and value giving. I expect the self-doubt stems from the cult they've created around themselves. They have a lot of expectations to live up to and they haven't quite arrived yet. I can sympathize with it. I'm sure Tyler Durden was the same way back during the writing of The Game.

Needless to say, I wasn't all that impressed. They make fun videos, but I would not recommend them for boot camps. They haven't reached true mastery yet. Give them a couple years.

Tyler Durden (RSD)

heckz, Jewiger, other BAS and non-BAS guys came out for a fun night. We were rolling DEEP with dudes. Always fun :)

So we're opening sets left and right, going for lulz and quick makeouts. I ended up #-closing a girl I am now referring to as nastybutdowntoplow.jpg

It turns out Jewiger k-closed and bounced a girl that blew Tyler Durden out earlier in the night, so that's pretty cool. Can't wait to see that FR!

Anyway... I'm by the bar talking to a couple of the guys when I look and spot a wild Tyler Durden. I instantly stop what I'm doing and go into observation mode. Here is what I saw...

This might sound a little fanboyish, but Tyler Durden is the real deal. I was extremely impressed with his skill level. The gap between his decade+ experience and the newcomers Simple Pickup was clear as day. Also he did not drink a drop of alcohol.

Just like me, Tyler Durden admits to being very state-dependent. His method to get in state was pretty obvious: open every chick that walks by. I mean, complete and total non-discriminatory opens.

His body language and the way he would physically open girls was flawless. Lots of "the claw," or opening girls by instantly dipping or twirling them. He was unafraid to go for instant makeouts. Literally open by going in for a kiss.

He would do this move where he would just point at a girl with one arm and she would stop dead in her tracks. He'd then pull her in and escalate physically right away.

He would open girls this way even if they were in mixed sets, with friends, or even on a date with their boyfriend. 100% pure DGAF mode. Guys wouldn't even try and AMOG him because his alphaness was so apparent.

He would make gratuitous use of the "Reality Destroyer" openers that I used to use so much in Tokyo. Basically do things so alpha/random/awesome that girls' brains short circuit and enter pure attraction mode. It was a site to behold.

After that he would hold girls in very close and whisper into their ear. When he talks about generating attraction quickly, the man means it.

You could also tell the guy is totally congruent with being outcomes-independent. Blowouts didn't phase him at all. I loved how he would open the unattractive girls and give them a brief moment of bliss before spinning them off and letting them continue on their way to the dance floor. It was giving value, generating social energy, and just a beautiful thing to behold. At one point the bouncer came over just to make sure he wasn't psycho or something. I am sure it's very rare to see someone open so unabashedly as he did. And even that didn't faze TD.

Eventually he isolated one of the hotter girls and went into rapport-mode. I didn't get to hear what he was saying, but the two of them looked like they were having a very good time. I didn't get to see when he left, so I can't comment on that.

Anyway, he's near flawless. Believe the hype. I would venture to say a bootcamp with him would be very intense but probably worth it. As you guys know, I'm pretty experienced myself and I was able to learn a lot by watching him in field. I describe him as a more aggressive version of myself, or a smoother version of ImKumarYo (our resident approach machine). Tyler Durden is Super Saiyan Level 3.

Anyway, feel free to ask questions. Myself and other BayAreaSedditors can chime in.