CMV: US women are entitled that is the cause for dating issues

Fresh_Truth_8569 · 2024-07-17T23:21:01+00:00

THERE ARE NO STANDARDS. That’s just something women say to screen out losers.

The only bar is attraction. Period.

blebbyroo · 2024-07-17T22:27:54+00:00

The hard truth is effort doesn’t always equal results. I worked with a guy in a cafe years ago and he was always a “hard worker” constantly on the go, finding jobs, putting his back into it so to speak- like he would mop the floor and mop furiously and mope everywhere but his water was dirty and he would leave the floor with brown black swirls on it. Lots of effort but didn’t give desired results.

Saying men put effort to be more attractive and that automatically makes them More attractive than women who don’t just isn’t true all the time. People have different base lines, some people need far less effort to look great and some people will put in years of effort for it to get them to barely average. Such is life. Same thing is seen in careers or even musical talent etc.

And just to be clear this comment isn’t about standards men or women have just about your second paragraph

LiftSushiDallas · 2024-07-17T23:05:40+00:00

This goes for both sexes. All preferences are valid in the sexual marketplace. But you should be prepared to accept the consequences if your preferences are hard for you to obtain based on the value you offer in the marketplace.

Opening_Tell9388 · 2024-07-17T22:21:23+00:00

Standards aren’t really changeable on the spot at all. You’re standards may change over the years as your values change over the years.

I do agree though, if you are forming your world view around vogue podcast and manosphere podcasts and dumb people making Tik-Toks I now understand how your perception of the world and reality get altered and distorted.

attendquoi · 2024-07-18T14:23:02+00:00

What are the supposed consequences? I think men struggle to uphold their standards because they're more afraid of being alone.

TinyFlamingo2147 · 2024-07-17T22:23:07+00:00

Courtney Ryan's dating advice is about as helpful and as deep as a horoscope.

Financial_Leave4411 · 2024-07-17T23:30:21+00:00

Your blaming everything on women having standards when men have high standards for commitment too. The only difference I see is women are more content staying single if they can’t find someone who meets their standards where as men are more likely to be angry about women not meeting their standards and as a result lash out more.

MrSaturn33 · 2024-07-17T22:44:26+00:00

I am not taking issue with women's standards. What I am taking issue with is women normalizing their high standards. Have whatever standards you want but also be realistic about what they are

Of course what you're saying makes sense, but you have to take the mindset that it's to be expected they would not do this. Of course once they have standards like that, they're not going to be honest about them and will try to paint them as more reasonable or correspondent to reality than they actually are. (on a deeper level, and the one I typically focus on, how women's standards are conditioned by the specific conditions around them, which explains why their standards are different in the present than they were 10, 20, 30 years ago. But of course they're dishonest about this and make them out to be transcendental, even a reflection of the general and inherent quality and nature of men. For example, women's standards are obviously affected by the economy, i.e. the opportunities for men to get decent jobs and earn enough money for relative standard(s) of living to provide for their female partners at whatever era we're in. But women are never honest about this. Basically, only men even have the potential to be class-conscious.)

but they should understand what standards they set and if they want to set them high they should understand

Of course you're correct, but again, it's to be expected they wouldn't do this. And will have the skewed/unreasonable standards, but then be entitled enough to complain nevertheless. Worse, when these same women take the general Feminist world-view that men are more privileged than women in the modern west, (when the overt truth is the reverse) women are oppressed at the hands of men via "the patriarchy," etc. But of course many women do just that. All we can do is point out that they're wrong, but it's silly to expect the ones who think like this to be honest about everything. If they were going to be that way, they wouldn't have the warped standards they then seek to dishonestly justify in the first place.

DrunkOnRamen · 2024-07-18T00:20:28+00:00

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-Shes-A-Carnival · 2024-07-18T00:23:42+00:00

whats the vogue podcast? do you think you should link to anything you're talking about?

ta06012022 · 2024-07-18T02:49:44+00:00

What dating issues? New issues or the things that have been around as long as dating?

MongoBobalossus · 2024-07-17T22:23:13+00:00

Your standards are as high as you can achieve. Reality will adjust them accordingly if you shoot above your ability.

As long as the market rewards women’s standards, there’s not much you can do to change that.

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waffleznstuff30 · 2024-07-18T13:19:46+00:00

I think the bar should be do you meet your own standards.

Like if you want someone who meets your standards you should be meeting them too.I think a lot of people don't meet their own standards, so they look for them in others as a way to be like see I'm good enough. Men want an active slim fit girl, yet have a beer gut haven't seen the inside of a gym. Same goes for women in that regard. You want an ambitious partner? You should be out doing things too..etc etc. Like ask only of others what you ask of yourself.

I think it is delusional if you are asking for XYZ but you do not meet any of those standards. (I'm not including height because it's more of a preference). If you want a guy that looks good do you look good? If you want a guy who is active are you active? Do you want a well traveled man? Are you well traveled?

Upset_Material_3372 · 2024-07-18T18:43:53+00:00

It’s fine to have high standards but it isn’t fine to not acknowledge you are looking for more than your worth.

Sadsad0088 · 2024-07-18T21:49:39+00:00

You should be more realistic and realise that you are being entitled by telling people what to desire.

Eastern_Method1213 · 2024-07-17T22:24:11+00:00

Yeah I definitely agree women do act entitled but still point the finger at men saying men are the true entitled ones. I like to think back to the “Tinder Swindler” where not a single one of his “victims” ever questioned why a multi millionaire young attractive international business man would be into them on a dating app. They all immediately assumed “of course a man like that would be into me”. I think that shows the female entitlement and delusion. The female 100% acts AND believes it’s entitled

MistyMaisel · 2024-07-18T02:59:55+00:00

Consequences like what? Getting their way and getting what they want? The horror.

63daddy · 2024-07-18T01:09:20+00:00

What you call entitlement is commonly known as hypergamy, that is a practice where women marry up and are often supported at least in part by a husband.

What many miss is that hypergamy is nothing new. It’s been the norm throughout history. E sWhat’s changed are factors such as advantaging females in education, advantaging women owned businesses. Affirmative Action for women and other such changes that make hypergamy less achievable than in the past.

DoinIt989 · 2024-07-17T23:21:09+00:00

The average 20-39 year old woman in the US is 5'4" and 167lbs. That + an imbalanced gender ratio (roughly 103 men for every 100 women) is the cause of dating issues.

If more women had a healthy 19-21 BMI, there would be far fewer issues.

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Title	CMV: US women are entitled that is the cause for dating issues
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Date	July 17, 2024 10:13 PM UTC (2 years ago)
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