Thoughts for men who stay mad at women

Bulky-Throat-3055 · 2025-12-26T22:00:19+00:00

Your last paragraph is why the men you're talking about won't listen. They have heard this a thousand times and some of them have friends and coworkers the problem is they arent getting fucked.

aslfingerspell · 2025-12-27T00:37:07+00:00

I've respected women as coworkers, customers, bosses, classmates, teachers, and so on throughout my life. I know they're not here just to have sex with me. I just want to be able to share that romantic and sexual side of human life with some of them.

YeaNobody · 2025-12-27T00:56:34+00:00

No advice given on dating/hooking up/situationship/whatever the hell people wanna call it will ever matter lol....you simply have to work with what you got even if you're horribly disfigured, socially inept beyond comprehension, or a soul blacker then satan himself. Pay, wank, or "go your own way" or whatever lol.

Arctolamia · 2025-12-26T21:46:16+00:00

FUCK, I've been attempting to lead a meaningless life this whole time!!!

The_WankingBuddha · 2025-12-27T02:13:03+00:00

Very nice thought.

The source of all your misery and disappointment in general is the expectations you have from others or your life.

Acceptance goes a long way.

Women are mad at men for being men. Men are mad at women for being women. But that's not necessarily because they assign a predefined "purpose" to one another.

Sometimes they expect the other to think and feel like them, and when that doesn't happen, they get disappointed. Women always whine about the "male gaze" and "objectification" and want men to admire women they claim to love. Men complain about not feeling desired by women who claim to love them.

Both expect each other's attraction to work the same as them. Both face disappointment.

I expect nothing from the women I befriend, and I've never had any complaints with them.

I expected a few things from the women I'd have liked to date. When I gave up on those expectations, my desire to date vanished. So yes, life did get much easier in a sense.

Capital_Capsicum · 2025-12-27T03:03:39+00:00

People get mad when they perceive that there is some injustice or unfairness against them, and this injustice is the source of their misfortune.

This isn't entirely controversial alone. Although the ideas born from it are. If women didn't think men were deliberately devaluing them, and withholding things from them, we wouldn't have feminism. If men didn't think women were deliberately devaluing and withholding things from them, we wouldn't have the manosphere.

The controversies come from whether something is truly unjust or not. We're kind of okay with injustice, if we believe it's an inevitable part of life, rather than a deliberate act by someone else.

Incels lash out at the system, because they feel the dating market deliberately crosses that line into an artificially unfair system. That the standards and struggles have been inflated further than they should be. They believe the inflation is due to women's greed, selfishness, and social media centred narcissism.

Now, I don't think women are intentionally doing bad things. I don't expect them to want to fuck guys out of fairness alone. Nor would many guys want their only source of intimacy to be from pity. But they could also acknowledge that the losers in this system are real people that suffer, because of their desires. And at some point, everyone should take a step back and ask if this is really how we should all be.

HarmonyComposer · 2025-12-27T04:48:36+00:00

The same goes for women who are perpetually mad at men who aren't interested in paying their rent-- but such women don't seem to exercise their opinions on this subreddit the way angry men do.

Why would they? They're allowed to say those things in real life without facing any repercussions. Unlike men complaining about women, women complaining about men irl don't risk social ostracization, reputation ruin and job loss

Clean-Luck6428 · 2025-12-26T21:47:23+00:00

I think you can be mad at a gender as long as you don’t project that baggage onto the person you are dating. So you assume they aren’t one of the bad ones till they prove otherwise.

It’s the people who assume they are dating someone who sucks and they make it a test to prove they aren’t one of the bad ones who will suffer the most when dating

This-Register · 2025-12-27T14:34:46+00:00

Idk babe, how does them being "furious" negatively affect you. It's not like they're going out of their way to be around women. Most of them on this sub probably don't even care what most of you have to say tbh.

Maleficent-Remote580 · 2025-12-27T18:41:02+00:00

You are a part of the problem when you make a post assuming cartoon villian level intent behind mens actions .

Do better.

FkinWinter · 2025-12-27T21:01:57+00:00

It's a decently written message and a lot of truth about adjusting expectations.

Now say the same to women on any sub and see how quickly you get blasted and banned.

That's the problem with the whole thing. Although we are more similar than different, we get treated VERY differently.

Shadowcat1606 · 2025-12-26T23:31:27+00:00

Shocker: Women are humans, too, and you should treat them as such. More at eight.

Seriously though, this is not a particularly new idea. Nor an advice most men who have issues with pursuing relations or sex have never heard.

I'm also not sure how big the subgroup of men who do this actually is. Subreddit about dating-related issues really aren't representative for general society.

And just generally speaking... yeah, people get mad (or sad, or disappointed, or disillusioned, etc.) when they expect or want things to go certain ways and they don't. Again, not exactly big news and also not a gendered thing.

mashedturnip · 2025-12-27T05:24:34+00:00

Counterpoint: blame is best directed putward

NewSpekt · 2025-12-27T08:23:57+00:00

These are just rage bait posts honestly.

Maffioze · 2025-12-27T23:47:42+00:00

I think I fundamentally disagree that peoples emotions such as anger are mainly determined by how they think about the purpose of others. It might influence it somewhat but it's not the main driver of someone being mad.

I think it's more accurate that people who are staying mad do so either because they don't feel like their needs are being met, or they have lived through traumatic experiences caused by that other group or people they are mad at. Or sometimes they are mad at something else entirely but use a group of people as a scapegoat to vent their anger on. Some kind of abstract thought about the purpose of people doesn't even enter the brain of most people I would think.

kvakerok_v2 · 2025-12-27T06:37:30+00:00

Stages of grief are a bitch. Some men are just stuck in the Anger stage.

midnight_blue77 · 2025-12-27T08:10:49+00:00

your approach to relationships with the opposite sex (romantic or otherwise) is filled with ideas about the purpose of women within the universe.

That's the Blue Pill in a nutshell.

The primary similarity all human people share is this: we don't actually have any one, true, objective purpose.

That's the Black Pill in a nutshell.

My recommendation is: adopt the attitude and understanding that women are in the universe for the same reason as men are: to pursue interests, learn, and lead meaningful lives, by THEIR definition (not yours) Give up any presuppositions about what function women should serve in society, or to you in particular..

That's called the Red Pill (with more words). Hypergamy, Briffault's Law, 80/20 Rule, Monkey Branching, etc...

While I cannot promise someone will fuck you for putting my suggestions into practice, your friendships and work relationships will improve significantly--

They won't. Humans simply don't function that way.

and at least you will stop actively alienating people who may consider fucking you.

Women who are down to fuck will do so even if we intentionally alienate them. Female sexual attraction is not contingent on ingratiation, it's as much dependent on physical attraction as women are to men. A guy is either hot or he's not. There is no magic formula that will make a non-hot guy suddenly hot.

N_Count_Council · 2025-12-26T23:59:51+00:00

The same goes for women who are perpetually mad at men who aren't interested in paying their rent-- but such women don't seem to exercise their opinions on this subreddit the way angry men do.

Because women can keep fishing and eventually some sap will come along and slave away for her

Livid-Log7463 · 2025-12-27T10:25:29+00:00

What you are missing is that said men are not mad that women are not “failing to live up to a preconceived purpose” but that they are denied the option of partnering, something that is near universally prioritized within humans, by women. In other words no matter what they or women think it still remains that women are ensuring they are excluded from an inherently integral aspect of human fulfillment (one that most women take for granted as they never have to be excluded) making it illogical NOT to feel at least some level of contempt.

Lower-Director1043 · 2025-12-28T01:47:57+00:00

oh my god its another enlightened woman projecting her neurosis because she felt empty, now she assumes everyone is like her. O my fellow enlightened fuck who lives in her own head, please come outside of your imagination before assuming everyone is liking you !

ChicagoFaucet · 2025-12-27T07:47:45+00:00

Well, as someone who does stay mad at women, I can tell you that your conclusions are off-base. We're not mad that women are not fulfilling an imagined purpose in the universe. We're frustrated that they claim that they are excellent at communication, and then repeatedly fail at it over and over. We're tired of having to carry the conversation, and the relationship. We're tired of having to be the one to put in all the effort and resources at every step of the way, and yet women still somehow find the luxury to be ridiculous about relationships.

wouldbepandananny · 2025-12-27T15:15:30+00:00

Fickle_Friendship296 · 2025-12-28T16:27:29+00:00

I can confidently say the vast majority of men respect women as people, that’s a non starter.

Online gender wars aren’t real life. Both men and women uphold reinforced traditional gender stereotypes all the time.

Most of the frustration I’ve seen is typical dating woes. In fact I’m seeing more posts being made by women about the same things that men are frustrated in when it comes to dating.

Barely-moral · 2025-12-26T21:59:03+00:00

You stay mad at women because your approach to relationships with the opposite sex (romantic or otherwise) is filled with ideas about the purpose of women within the universe.

No. It is filled with ideas about the purpose of women within my life. My life being the only part of the universe that matters.

The result is, if a woman fails to meet that purpose-- as determined by you-- you become frustrated.

Not really. I only become frustrated when I through actions show myself willing to play the role a woman believes to be mine while she is not willing to play the role I believe to be hers.

The fact is, while there are in general, differences between men and women on average, there are certain things that are the same across all groups of people, independent of any demographic feature. The primary similarity all human people share is this: we don't actually have any one, true, objective purpose. Now- I believe we are in the universe to learn, explore our interests, find meaning and purpose where we can, and try to do more good than bad for those around us--but this includes an infinite number of human behaviors, rather than a quantifiable, operationally definable purpose.

Good. Women are free to do that outside wife my life or in a way that does not get in the way of the role I want them to fill.

The same goes for women who are perpetually mad at men who aren't interested in paying their rent-- but such women don't seem to exercise their opinions on this subreddit the way angry men do. (But just to cut off the men who, not being able to articulate a flaw in my statement, will instead go on about how women are just as bad; whatever- here it goes: for straight women- men aren't your checkbook or your servant; they are people, just like you.)

I don't mind being a checkbook or servant. I am ok with fulfilling the role my partner wants me to fill as long as she fills the role I want her to fill.

There is post after post by men furious with women who have no end of ideas about how women should behave differently. Most of the ideas differ greatly depending on the man in question...but this is the source of your misery. You have an idea of how things "should" be, and when they aren't, you lose your mind.

Wrong. I have an idea a out how I want things to be. And of course I lose my mind when things are not that was I have only one life and it is not to be wasted on things I don't want.

My recommendation is: adopt the attitude and understanding that women are in the universe for the same reason as men are: to pursue interests, learn, and lead meaningful lives, by THEIR definition (not yours). Give up any presuppositions about what function women should serve in society, or to you in particular.

Or I could adopt an attitude that reflects the fact that I have only one life to live exactly as I want. Any other option is a waste.

While I cannot promise someone will fuck you for putting my suggestions into practice

That is it. Your position became worthless to most men.

your friendships and work relationships will improve significantly

Useless.

and at least you will stop actively alienating people who may consider fucking you.

And in exchange I will get the prize of wasting my only life living it in a way I don't want to live.

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Axis_Control · 2025-12-27T10:47:45+00:00

Entitlement can be a barrier that blocks our ability to fully embrace the incredible gifts that God has given us. Instead of appreciating what we have, entitlement keeps us focused on what we don’t have. Entitlement will only lead these men to be miserable.

They should instead practise humility, gratitude and service.

Title	Thoughts for men who stay mad at women
Author	wouldbepandananny
Upvotes	21
Comments	167
Date	December 26, 2025 9:40 PM UTC (6 months ago)
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