FR: Kicked her out the door

myschadenfreude · 2014-10-13T17:04:11+00:00

This never ceases to amaze me. She gives you a bj on the flimsiest excuse, comes over to your apartment to "watch Netflix" and only when directly confronted says she has a bf. Lol she was shoving you into the orbiter role.

You did the right thing. Nicely dropped her off too. I just find it funny still that women are surprised when they get called out. I feel bad for her bf since she hands out bjs so freely.

thredditsowaway · 2014-10-13T17:15:43+00:00

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rhabdothrowaway · 2014-10-13T15:27:41+00:00

Like a boss. Nice job dude.

AfterC · 2014-10-13T15:43:38+00:00

Play the game on your terms or don't play at all. It's quite simple and more conducive for your happiness in the long run.

NietzscheanStoic · 2014-10-13T15:52:47+00:00

Has she tried to contact you since?

gideonrakthor · 2014-10-13T15:24:14+00:00

Gjm8. You were focused on what you wanted and didn't back down when she refused. She'll know you hold your agenda above hers and respect you for it.

WeAreGlidingNow · 2014-10-13T16:32:15+00:00

A blowie as a 'thank you' ?

Not sure if jealous or disgusted.

Both?

_Dog- · 2014-10-13T18:42:05+00:00

Self respect feels good doesn't it?

momomotorboat · 2014-10-13T19:35:52+00:00

Looks like you took a good step forward. It's logical to assume from your past interaction what was going down this time. But then, oh wait, logic and women??? (I always think of Jack Nicholsons line from As Good As It Gets)

I've dropped plates when I find out they're taken also. Sex is a great prize and all, but now I'm always mindful of the company I keep, even briefly. To me, no pussy is worth those potential headaches. Maybe that's not RP enough for some.

ALandForlorn · 2014-10-14T00:25:47+00:00

Can someone explain why girls try to turn guys they are ostensibly sexually attracted to into beta orbiters at the drop of a hat? I don't get how someone can find someone attractive enough to want to suck his dick for a mere ride home then just think of him as a friend immediately after. Is sex just some novelty act that many girls feel the need to do with anyone they get alone with or did OP screw up somewhere here? This is not a criticism; I ask this as a clueless retard just trying to understand this dynamic.

PlusGoody · 2014-10-13T19:32:59+00:00

OP, you met a fairly common variant of the slut-in-denial. She sluts it up, and then to disprove that she's a slut, engages in a conspicuous display of virtuous rejection of the man she slutted it up. It's a semi-advanced form of hamstering. You'll experience it again unless (of course) you take the wise course and simply next any girl who blatantly sluts it up with you the first time she does so. Even if she stays willing, after the first time, it's a relationship, and relationships with sluts don't end well.

trpSenator · 2014-10-13T19:01:50+00:00

You probably could have fucked her. What girl hangs out with a guy, alone, after recently sucking him off, and not expect the possibility to fuck? Sure, she may not have been conscious about it, and would use the BF excuse, but you probably could have just "taken her in the moment" or some other stupid excuse she'll give. I've fucked plenty of girls with BF's, and all they are looking for is an excuse to fuck and not seem like a slut. Just gotta make it seem like it "just happened".

RXRob · 2014-10-13T22:48:31+00:00

An easy BJ to suck you in (giggidy), and then being "friends" to make you into an orbiter.

You're better off without her, good job.

EscortSportage · 2014-10-13T16:35:56+00:00

Yes this is what i like to hear (read)

skinnysandvs · 2014-10-13T18:37:58+00:00

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_valtiel_ · 2014-10-13T21:50:44+00:00

OP you were right to freeze her out. One thing about the topic title, you didn't kick her out the door. You drove her home, it's a decent thing to do. I wouldn't waste gas to drive her home though, maybe dropped her off at a bus stop. I'm a cold bastard though, so that's just me.

I don't know why people are saying he could have gotten laid. Redpillers shouldn't be obligated to fuck anybody if they're turned off. It's like putting pussy on a pedestal again. "You could have totally banged her dude! Why didn't you bang her ARGH!"

He didn't keep her around to bang her because he simply didn't want to. This a perfectly fine field report and many can learn from it. At the end of the day he hung out at the bar with friends.

AEther_Flux · 2014-10-13T16:50:37+00:00

"An emotional tampon" I love it!

gimmetrp · 2014-10-13T17:02:06+00:00

Meta: What's all this HBx business? Couldn't find it in the glossary.

fyseaking · 2014-10-13T19:58:41+00:00

I did this myself but instead of asking questions I said "Ok, we're done here. Leave." Without a word after that I got under the covers and pretended to go to sleep.

She stood there for a few minutes seeing if I'd cave. Fucking nope. Then she was like "You're an asshole." She got in the sheets again and we banged.

You failed her shit test but lesson learned.

Though in the end you did the right choice, bro. Next time don't give girls a ride though, tell her she needs to leave and find her own ride for maximum impact. Hold frame after that & you should be rewarded.

clear_lights · 2014-10-13T23:21:04+00:00

You played it right.

IMO, the moment a plate starts saying shit like, "I'm taken now" or "I started seeing someone exclusively" just hard next her. There's no point. I wouldn't go that far in permanently cutting off contact though because she might come back crawling in your arms.

For the record, if you did get laid that night while she was in a relationship, that says a lot about that woman's priorities.

Props for keeping it real with the:

Me: "What would your boyfriend think?"

Most guys wouldn't even give the girl a chance and just escalate it to get their dicks wet.

flexiblehold · 2014-10-14T01:58:20+00:00

I've been seeing a lot of "Netflix on the couch" shit on here lately, and it seems very beta to me.

Netflix on the couch in jammies on a Sunday afternoon is ltr shit, it's not seductive at all, imho. Same with cuddling. Teddy bear crap.

Another red flag is hang out. NO. "Let's hang out" is like failing a shit test she never gave you, it says to women 1) you don't have a plan 2) you aren't confident enough to put a more aggressive sexual foot forward 3) that you might be into just, well, hanging out.

It should be: "let's get a drink." "Let's grab dinner." "Let's grab a coffee." With all of the aforementioned, you follow with "I know a place," or "at ____." THEN you take her back to the pad, after she's had a few and after you've properly escalated.

Netflix-on-the-couch is how you reward a bitch after she's earned her place as a consistent top plate.

babybelly · 2014-10-14T02:38:44+00:00

"Are you mad at me?" bla bla I was just disgusted and pitied her boyfriend. I knew I could have escalated and gotten some at that point... but fuck it, I don't have time for shitty people like this.

FRs I see recently make me wonder if there are actually girls worth keeping as it sounds like all of them are hard wired to wanna fuck you when you give them the "you did somethhing wrong" treatment. If so OP should just have get some and not have his evening ruined. Sounds selfish sure but if all the girls are the same where is the harm?

iheartdrums86 · 2014-10-14T05:31:02+00:00

This happened to me, too. Not too long ago I met a girl at work and she went out with myself and some friends. Afterwards we went to a house party where she sucked me off on some strangers couch while everybody else was in the next room. Fast forward a couple of weeks when I bring it up to try and advance things to no avail. Log onto to Facebook yesterday to see pictures of her with another guy at a wedding...LOL I felt bad for that guy, too...

IVIaskerade · 2014-10-14T17:08:08+00:00

I knew I could have escalated and gotten some at that point... but fuck it, I don't have time for shitty people like this.

This is so important. You could've fucked her, then written an FR about how "deese hoes ain't loyal", but you took the high road. You took the right decision in this situation, and I know that quite a few guys here wouldn't (not judging them, newly-discovered game is a fun thing to play with, but you've got to draw the line somewhere).

I guarantee that she's done shit like this with other guys.

mordanus · 2014-10-14T17:55:51+00:00

Women are not worth having as friends. I haven't met a single one that is even close to the same value a male friend is. You did the right thing by kicking this girl out of your life.

xwm · 2014-10-14T19:23:21+00:00

If she was not the close friend of a close friend, I would not have given her a ride home. 5 min drive, gave her the silent treatment "Are you mad at me?" bla bla I was just disgusted and pitied her boyfriend.

I would recommend holding frame better. You clearly got upset with her. Once you decided fun times were off the table, just write her off. Not trying to give you advice to get laid, just pointing out you would probably be happier not caring as much. Besides, she was shitty to you, and you were still nice enough to drive her home. You don't owe her an explanation. "Are you mad?" ""Nah." Keeps driving

no-identity · 2014-10-13T21:03:00+00:00

I was not making any progress with her on my couch after a couple of drinks and netflix on.... then I asked... "what happened you were all about it a few weeks ago". Her: "I started seeing somebody new, I just wanted to be friends"

Disgusting. Good work kicking her ass out of there at the drop of a hat.

PolishHammerMK · 2014-10-14T01:35:53+00:00

Stonewalled. Good on you, OP. You got a stronger moral compass than some other guys on here, and you starved her inner hamster.

ThousandTruths · 2014-10-14T17:29:09+00:00

Good job dude. No females friends around an alpha, only fuck buddies. And maybe super ugly female friends that are good at chess or something (unlikely).

maximun_vader · 2014-10-13T18:36:12+00:00

You are an asshole. I like you. We should be friends.

SamGill · 2014-10-13T21:09:55+00:00

she's such a f-ing liar! unbelievable some plates can be.

crasher555 · 2014-10-13T19:35:36+00:00

You ruined frame by getting pissed that she wouldn't hook up with you. You should've been indifferent about that and just said something like "no big deal, it's cool." She probably just thinks of you as a butt-hurt loser and is laughing about you with her boyfriend now.

AllMenDrip · 2014-10-14T06:14:33+00:00

People on this thread will say that you held frame but given the situation I'd say that you acted in frustration and desperation. You have a minor sexual history with the girl yet you didn't act as an alpha and bring her tingles. You just expected her from the start to just drop her panties for you. You fucked up by asking questions( smells like desperation) but you could have recovered easily if you kept your head and ignored-and-escalate :

Girl : I have a bf

Boy: Doesn't matter. We're alone. Nobody will know. A one night, a breath of fresh air in the stench of commitment.

I don't want to brag but every time I've had a girl at my place it has resulted into sex. So I don't understand how some men can end the night as a virgin.

WalletgotJcked · 2014-10-13T23:38:45+00:00

Nice job i guess.

Next time take it to the next level. Don't talk to her or even ask her questions. The girl doesn't know what the fuck she wants, at least consciously. Women hide their desires underneath all this bullshit society manifests into their brain. She sucked your dick a month earlier. Why teh fuck would she want to just watch a movie alone with you?

It was a shit test, after the question you should have just grabbed her head and made out with her. Then thrown her head on your lap and whipped your dick out. Don't let her use you for her ego boost. You're using her for her mouth , vag, and maybe asshole if you roll that way.

Learn from your mistake. Idk how red pill everyone on this forum really is, this is my first post - but as a guy who goes out 3 times a week for same night lays I can't help but smash my head into the table reading this.

You had her. Don't let this happen next time.

muhnooer · 2014-10-13T17:22:52+00:00

That's amazing that her boyfriend wouldn't invite her to thanksgiving dinner. Shows what he actually thinks of her.

23490865243879526487 · 2014-10-13T17:30:24+00:00

Good job but misleading title.

crasher555 · 2014-10-14T00:03:14+00:00

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redblue25 · 2014-10-13T17:30:40+00:00

emotional tampon hahaha good one!

crasher555 · 2014-10-13T16:30:59+00:00

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Title	FR: Kicked her out the door
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Upvotes	492
Comments	155
Date	October 13, 2014 3:09 PM UTC (11 years ago)
Subreddit	Posted in /r/TheRedPill
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